Keltec CMR30 Review

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Paul Harrell

Paul Harrell

Жыл бұрын

Paul tests out the Keltec CMR30 and shares his thoughts.
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@BlueTrane2028
@BlueTrane2028 Жыл бұрын
This was a very MOOOOOOOving presentation.
@clangerbasher
@clangerbasher Жыл бұрын
That's what I like about KZfaq videos. They are organic and natural. I like it when somebody is talking and the dog or cat wanders in. Or somebody goes past and says hello to the video maker. It is true community TV.
@Harden61
@Harden61 Жыл бұрын
Is that was that noise was? I thought the production crew had been replaced with pigeons.
@chrisgabbert658
@chrisgabbert658 Жыл бұрын
👍👍😊😂
@markgalyen38
@markgalyen38 Жыл бұрын
He had a live studio audience today..
@itsapittie
@itsapittie Жыл бұрын
The local fauna were COWering while Paul was shooting.
@tritech
@tritech Жыл бұрын
Best gun channel period. No BS. No hacky shit. No sponsors. Just quality, educated opinions and a smooth ass voice.
@3eightiesopinion524
@3eightiesopinion524 Жыл бұрын
Obviously you ignore the pop tart ads
@doejon9424
@doejon9424 Жыл бұрын
He needs to talk slower. Like he used to. Can't hardly understand him.
@LMXPebble
@LMXPebble Жыл бұрын
No Tactical Tom crap either.
@tombrown4683
@tombrown4683 Жыл бұрын
@tritech, That's what I told Paul when we met ! Best gun channel !!
@michaelsorenson3887
@michaelsorenson3887 Жыл бұрын
Definitely sponsored by Pop Tarts though... so....
@spondulixtanstaafl7887
@spondulixtanstaafl7887 Жыл бұрын
I always smile when Paul describes himself as an average shooter.
@FoulPet
@FoulPet Жыл бұрын
He should probably get an average shooter during these demonstrations.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Жыл бұрын
He's average with his off hand.
@engrs4wrd2
@engrs4wrd2 Жыл бұрын
He's about as an "average" shooter as Michaelangelo was an "average" painter.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Жыл бұрын
@@engrs4wrd2 Michelangelo wasn't actually a very good painter. He was an extraordinary sculptor though. Which is why Da Vinci called him that dusty man. Now Da Vinci was an extraordinary painter.
@mtman2
@mtman2 Жыл бұрын
Well he didn't show great offhand today...might be the guns...? Bolt action WMR by a good shooter easily groups 2" @ 100yds in the right hands = 24" barrel likely slower twist rifling & rifle sights...! Personally the 50gr by Federal are the bomb @ 1,600fps really hit hard- for .22 anyway...!
@joshuagibson2520
@joshuagibson2520 Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad there are a few people left with integrity. Paul is certainly one of those people.
@crazyize1864
@crazyize1864 Жыл бұрын
Just when I thought I was going to have a boring day Paul saves it
@PurpleHeartRecipient
@PurpleHeartRecipient Жыл бұрын
I agree with you 💯💯💯💯Paul is AMAZING!
@Quadrenaro
@Quadrenaro Жыл бұрын
@@PurpleHeartRecipient Found the bot
@Hjerte_Verke
@Hjerte_Verke Жыл бұрын
There's lots of Paul Harrell videos I haven't seen and some I'd love to watch again, so no, there are no boring days, only boring people... heh heh that means YOU 😀
@alexh4436
@alexh4436 Жыл бұрын
Boring?!?!?! You could have been watching the exciting 0-0 tie between Poland and Mexico at the world cup....
@swag8724
@swag8724 Жыл бұрын
osrs is down, happiness is down, Paul uploads , Good times.
@wolfpreist
@wolfpreist Жыл бұрын
Paul Harrell reviewing a Keltech? be still my heart...
@Jaden48108
@Jaden48108 Жыл бұрын
It's okay. Your heart will keep on beating due to the sodium potassium ion exchange pump that allows continuous impulses from the sinoatrial node, travelling to the AV node, bundle of HIS, the left and right bundle branches, and finally the purkinje fibers. It all works out in the end.
@johnshue8082
@johnshue8082 Жыл бұрын
Many channels have their signature methods that make them memorable. 1) reading a chronograph from 7 yards away 2) properly wrapping fruit with clothing 👍
@noahmercy-mann4323
@noahmercy-mann4323 Жыл бұрын
KelTec is building a new production facility here in Wyoming. While I was never a huge fan of their stuff, I recently got a P17 that is one of the most fun firearms I've ever owned, and some of their other offerings are becoming more refined, reliable and better-featured, while remaining affordable. I hope it is a trend which continues.
@Chiller01
@Chiller01 Жыл бұрын
I really like the owner’s sense of creativity and originality. The firearms he designs are more than just variations on established types. That said I don’t own any of his guns so go figure.
@AjackLee4
@AjackLee4 Жыл бұрын
I'm really becoming a Kel Tec fan, didn't think that would ever happen. I like the new direction they're headed in.
@johnjanoscrat8000
@johnjanoscrat8000 Жыл бұрын
Great to hear, considering the P-17. All the best!!
@formdoggie5
@formdoggie5 Жыл бұрын
I have a SU16CA that has treated me extremely well.
@allthingsconsidered3211
@allthingsconsidered3211 Жыл бұрын
Where about in wy? Black hills?
@gregknipe8772
@gregknipe8772 Жыл бұрын
great show. as a non gun owner, total novice, the main reason I watch these productions is to begin to understand the world of fire arms, fire arms owners to some extent, and to learn from Pauls style of presentation, argumentation, knowing he has my back in this and all debates. logic, honesty, integrity are fine base lines for any presentation.
@MsAmeisen
@MsAmeisen Жыл бұрын
Lovely keep it up and get yourself a firearm. Sadly here in Germany they are pretty much unobtanium for most people + we don't have a gun culture. Expand and preserve your rights Americans! I can only dream of living in a country with firearms so plenty as you have them.
@StudSupreme
@StudSupreme Жыл бұрын
GET A GUN. Start slow and with small caliber. A good place to start is with a 22lr revolver (22 long rifle is a caliber.) Simple firearm, light caliber, easy to shoot. ALSO: take lessons. Yes, it will cost money. So what? It's only dirty paper. As you get comfy with the 22lr revolver, start exploring heavier calibers (please, please, please don't go straight to the 44 Magnum, I'm begging you.) Once you get comfortable with both revolvers and semiauto pistols in heavier calibers, start exploring rifles and shotguns. Again, TAKE LESSONS. If your wife objects, take her shooting with you. WARNING - the more vociferously anti-gun she is, the faster and more maniacally she will become a gun aficionado. Give it 30 minutes at the range. Side note: it's the women who always want to go from the 22lr revolver to the 44 Mag RIGHT AWAY. They just go nuts.
@Hjerte_Verke
@Hjerte_Verke Жыл бұрын
@@StudSupreme Good advice. I'd recommend a .22 pistol (automatic) too. In fact something like a Browning Buckmark or a Ruger Mk IV standard (that's a sexy pistol) I'd recommend over a revolver.
@MsAmeisen
@MsAmeisen Жыл бұрын
@@Hjerte_Verke I am fairly inexperienced but shot guns on multiple occasions and the ruger 10 22 was really controlable and taugt me the basics of rifle operations and cleaning well :) but one needs to have good magazines. 22s can be prone to misfeeding with the wrong magazines
@herrfriedrich6563
@herrfriedrich6563 Жыл бұрын
I would like to add that there isn't "the perfect starter gun" I think it comes all down to preference. Paul Harrell did 2 nice videos on starter guns. I had the pleasure to shoot some of them personally and they were some sound pics. I didn't feel overwhelmed (I never handled guns before) So yeah if i had to buy myself my first one I would probably trust this guy that some call a professional to make a sound and well thought out preselection (and one day buy a calico just for the heck of it)
@OdeeOz
@OdeeOz Жыл бұрын
*_HAPPY THANKSGIVING,_** to you and yours Paul Harrell! And to everyone, everywhere as well.* 👍👍& 10k⭐
@gordonshaffer5560
@gordonshaffer5560 Жыл бұрын
Paul, I can go shoot whenever I want. I come to listen to you test, analyze and critically interpret results. There's nothing boring about hearing you talk. Sometimes I zone out while you're shooting, but I always come back when you start to talk. I think you're a great teacher. Thanks for sharing.
@Tfaonc
@Tfaonc Жыл бұрын
Paul is so polite, always thanking me for my patience.
@danielheald411
@danielheald411 Жыл бұрын
"And two" that cracked me up. Nice subtle way to stick it to the "EXPERTS", thanks for the laugh.
@albertforletta1498
@albertforletta1498 Жыл бұрын
I love guns, however, I have zero interest in 5.7x28, and 22wmr. I watched this entire video, and enjoyed it because it’s Paul Harrell!! Thank you Mr. Harrell.
@skouttvfe499
@skouttvfe499 Жыл бұрын
That Bird Flip was Smooth 😂
@halharvey3314
@halharvey3314 Жыл бұрын
Paul you never let me down with the one finger point of understanding. Love it. Thanks for a true unbiased channel. Hey it’s close to thanksgiving. It’s time to shoot the leftovers guns. The judge and what ever ammo is left on the store shelves. That’s about all they are good for.
@nobody8717
@nobody8717 Жыл бұрын
Nothing cures a hangover like being out on our "range" today.
@charlesrocks
@charlesrocks Жыл бұрын
I am a Ruger fan, but magazines dropping out of a rifle at random is a deal breaker. The Keltec seems to be very solid and the overall weight and size of that implement is very attractive. I’m sure some Ruger obsessive is going to read that comment, and say to himself, “How compelling…please face the wall.”
@ThomasHendrickson
@ThomasHendrickson Жыл бұрын
He’s not gonna shoot you in the back of the head if his mag keeps falling out
@mtthwpnn
@mtthwpnn Жыл бұрын
@@ThomasHendrickson Still got the one in the chamber though
@mtthwpnn
@mtthwpnn Жыл бұрын
I've got a PSA 57, so I'm neutral on this one
@BigWheel.
@BigWheel. Жыл бұрын
How DARE you sully the good flawless name of Ruger, they are THE one and only premium firearms company, need I remind you.
@davidblackman1586
@davidblackman1586 Жыл бұрын
I love my Ruger 5.7 and would never buy this carbine. It's a piece of junk. CMMG has a way better version.
@jasonsliger5430
@jasonsliger5430 Жыл бұрын
I'd rather have.22 magnum due to ammo prices. If I need more power, I'll step up to.556 or.223. Thanks for the video! I enjoy all of them!
@redtra236
@redtra236 Жыл бұрын
.22 magnum is cheaper to buy but the cases aren't reusable, so if you do much reloading 5.7 might end up being cheaper in the long run if you can save a decent amount of your brass.
@ronaldbobeck1026
@ronaldbobeck1026 Жыл бұрын
There is an area of PA. Were, 22 mag. Is the preferred caliber for the nocturnal "harvesting " of tall 4 legged rats. If ya know know .
@davidcox3076
@davidcox3076 Жыл бұрын
Maybe one day there will be enough demand for 5.7 ammo that production will increase and prices decrease. But it's doubtful it will ever be as affordable as .22 magnum due to its popularity and versatility.
@PatriotPaulUSA
@PatriotPaulUSA Жыл бұрын
The 5.7 round has never been inexpensive but the price has gotten a bit better since Ruger jumped on to it 20 yrs later. I use the 22TCM which is the USA 223 Rem case based version. Unfortunately RIA has held it close and hasn't sami certified it. I am guessing because it gives them kinda a monopoly on it.
@zr1sparky1
@zr1sparky1 Жыл бұрын
Every time Paul mentions two things I sit up and look for the inevitable bird.. It never disappoints
@doughall8081
@doughall8081 Жыл бұрын
Very subtle, I love it…😂
@westernjeep4015
@westernjeep4015 Жыл бұрын
Both calibers really moooooove it down range.
@curtisc6768
@curtisc6768 Жыл бұрын
Yeah thought the voices in my head were back but, then i realized it was the cattle in the video.
@nfaisnfgay
@nfaisnfgay Жыл бұрын
@@curtisc6768 nope, we’re still here (and in your walls)
@curtisc6768
@curtisc6768 Жыл бұрын
@@nfaisnfgay Damn it i knew it!! time to get my tinfoil hat back on.
@chopperdeath
@chopperdeath Жыл бұрын
Those cows are excited for the review.
@TheSquizzlet
@TheSquizzlet Жыл бұрын
Regarding reloading at 29:00, I have owned and have shot my CMR-30 for a few years now and I developed a reload technique that works very well, for both tactical and speed reloads. Essentially you use the meat at the bottom of your palm to trip the release while reaching for your next magazine with your shooting hand, and catch the outgoing mag in the process. You can then either simply drop it, or stow it while retrieving your next mag. Seat the magazine and snug it in with your pinky as you replace your shooting grip. When done, it combines the ejecting and replacing process all into one fluid motion. It takes practice, but when you master this technique it really does work well. There's the obvious concern of using your shooting hand vs your support hand to reload, but I personally like my support hand keeping the rifle on target. This technique obviously does not work with the PMR-30 pistol. I developed this independently of any instructor or demonstration I could find, and in searching I've never seen or heard of anyone else using this technique (The CMR-30 is a very unique rifle). Also, regarding loading the magazines themselves, I find if you load it just as if you were loading a typical handgun magazine, you should be good to go. If you notice (Which I am sure you did), the retention lips on the mag have a wider portion near the middle for the rim to pass through. Push down and back with this opening letting the rim through. Give the base of the mag a good smack in your palm every 5 rounds or so to ensure everything is seated right and you should be good to go. Personally I like the granny tool since it makes loading the magazines fun (My monkey brain likes to push button and make click) but they can effectively be loaded by hand, it just takes practice. Sometimes text can convey a tone not originally intended, so I want to make clear that I'm being 100% constructive, if anything came off condescending or facetious that wasn't my intent. Love the presentations, always excited to see more!
@nicholas73018
@nicholas73018 Жыл бұрын
The bird gets me every time. I may be 41 but I giggle like a teenager every single time.
@franky334444
@franky334444 Жыл бұрын
Me patiently wait for the thanksgiving day special 🦃 🤤
@jordanhorst6
@jordanhorst6 Жыл бұрын
mcarbo make upgrade kits for keltec products; polished feed ramps, billet aluminum parts etc. they really turn PMR/CMRs into effective platforms.
@donrichter3523
@donrichter3523 Жыл бұрын
Good parts, but pushes price of the guns up dramatically.
@JohnSmith-fq3rg
@JohnSmith-fq3rg Жыл бұрын
@@donrichter3523 I'd rather buy an affordable weapon and put more money into it if I already love it, as opposed to paying as much up front for a weapon I don't know if I will like. Much like upgrading an afforable AR you like piece by piece
@wapiti3750
@wapiti3750 Жыл бұрын
Harrell is the planet's best shooting Dental Assistant.
@markadams7597
@markadams7597 Жыл бұрын
This is a great vid, particularly the beeves bawl'n in the mic back-ground! Very interesting these bullet velocities. Thanks. (Miss those pop-tart intros!)
@catlee8064
@catlee8064 Жыл бұрын
Im sitting here in the UK, its raining (of course) cup of tea in one hand, wondering why im not living in the states.....
@throwawaytrash33
@throwawaytrash33 8 күн бұрын
These are legal in the UK.
@catlee8064
@catlee8064 8 күн бұрын
@@throwawaytrash33 They might be, but do you have any idea of the crap you have to go through to get a license? the back ground checks, police checks..etc...you can be waiting years.
@CaveTater
@CaveTater Жыл бұрын
Just when I'm considering a CMR30 for purchase Paul releases a video about it. Fantastic stuff as per usual.
@ILLEagle_1
@ILLEagle_1 Жыл бұрын
Same here. I think the cmr made out well here. Now I want one more
@Jaden48108
@Jaden48108 Жыл бұрын
It's not a bad gun. Useful for pest control I would think. The whole idea of magazine change outs is not concerning, nor the capacity because you can get done what it needs to do with 20 rounds verses 30 rounds. When you weigh the costs of each gun I think Kel Tec is the better option.
@grigoris.7732
@grigoris.7732 Жыл бұрын
I love mine. Murdered a couple of turkeys and rabbits with it. It has some weird hiccups sometimes, but that's mostly because of the magazine, which I feel could use some tuning
@breckfreeride
@breckfreeride Жыл бұрын
I like mine... Pairs perfectly with pmr30
@chadrichard6388
@chadrichard6388 Жыл бұрын
Hi Paul ! T day 2 days . Looking forward to you special . Ham and yam was great ! Advice on dating true . I wish the industry would get past short barrels . Shoot your muzzle loaders for us . I liked you cap and ball revolver . My new neighbor is a disabled Marine . Highest respect and gratitude .
@000destruct0
@000destruct0 Жыл бұрын
My CMR-30 snapped its firing pin this summer. Only around 1200 rds thru it. Keltec was kind enough to send me two replacement firing pins. Not sure if I got a bad one but I was told it may have been bad heat treating. Other than that it's been a great/fun gun.
@johnjanoscrat8000
@johnjanoscrat8000 Жыл бұрын
Great to hear of good CS from Keltec. All the best!!
@andrettski8686
@andrettski8686 Жыл бұрын
Always enjoy Paul showing the 'Ammo Geek Nerds' who's #1.
@zapador
@zapador Жыл бұрын
A video just in time for my coffee, excellent! Thank you!
@tonyv8925
@tonyv8925 Жыл бұрын
Yep, fresh cup of cinnamon laced coffee goes well with Paul's presentations.
@jasoncrowder2969
@jasoncrowder2969 Жыл бұрын
I can ALWAYS trust this channel for ammo and firearms results. Great content as always, Paul!
@Stiglitz71
@Stiglitz71 Жыл бұрын
That flip-off was perfect.
@FallingStar1080
@FallingStar1080 Жыл бұрын
How is he not at a million subscribers yet is beyond me
@dirtydingoringo3121
@dirtydingoringo3121 Жыл бұрын
I hope when he gets his youtube award he just shoots it lol
@MrNexor-cj8gs
@MrNexor-cj8gs Жыл бұрын
He was around 90k when I started watching. I'm glad he's gotten a lot more, but he's still underrated.
@Hjerte_Verke
@Hjerte_Verke Жыл бұрын
Spread the word. He deserves that measly 1MIL subscribers for certain.
@louiswarmoth7354
@louiswarmoth7354 Жыл бұрын
Not to be an ass but safety equipment. I’m not a stickler but lead(or influence) by example.
@kftc1980
@kftc1980 Жыл бұрын
If Paul ever wants to change the name of this channel for some reason, or create a second channel, here is the name that will give everyone a chuckle: The Average Shooter
@corneredfox
@corneredfox Жыл бұрын
7:57 Paul casually flipping off the people who insist he should be using Mil/LE only ammo for the 5.7.
@Jaden48108
@Jaden48108 Жыл бұрын
I noticed that to. Funny.
@beardybeardface
@beardybeardface Жыл бұрын
I missed it, subtle.
@williamharn9048
@williamharn9048 Жыл бұрын
Just hours away from the Thanksgiving Special! I'm looking forward to that moreso than my in-laws!!!
@PipBoy3k
@PipBoy3k Жыл бұрын
My single shot Little Badger in 22WMR got me through the great ammo shortage of 2020, and only recently I decided to upgrade to a semi-auto. The rounds are so accurate out of a 16 inch barrel, I just decided to get an A22 with a 22 inch barrel.
@mrj5552
@mrj5552 Жыл бұрын
fantastic video Paul. thanks for making it and sharing.
@bertg.6056
@bertg.6056 Жыл бұрын
Another great presentation, Paul Thanks !!
@afella1129
@afella1129 Жыл бұрын
I'm eagerly awaiting the 2022 thanksgiving special. I've made it tradition to watch at my parents house whilst preparing our own thanksgiving dinner. As always, a very informative presentation. Edit: I agree that a forward assist of some sort is a must on any semi-auto rifle/carbine. A clean rifle may not need it often, but if you aren't keeping up with your cleaning or encounter ammo the action doesn't agree with, you'll find yourself wishing your go to rifle had a forward assist.
@stevennewman4778
@stevennewman4778 Жыл бұрын
Forward assist is extremely useful if shooting a DI AR in .223 and running a suppressor, especially when I’m not ready to stop shooting for the day.
@rob9781
@rob9781 Жыл бұрын
I also am eagerly awaiting the Thanksgiving drop. Thanks Paul !
@beartankoperator7950
@beartankoperator7950 Жыл бұрын
I agree about the forward assist I have heard these arguments about the ar15 not needing it and such but it seems like a thing that is better to have and not need than need and not have if you have a spring or gassing malfunction you might be short just that little bit and not be able to fire anymore if you cannot close the chamber
@richardw.johnson2875
@richardw.johnson2875 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, Paul. Best channel on KZfaq
@gustoppa358
@gustoppa358 Жыл бұрын
The vid is 36 minutes long and you posted this 13 minutes after it went live. Lol.
@andrewallason4530
@andrewallason4530 Жыл бұрын
@@gustoppa358 probs a patreon.
@gustoppa358
@gustoppa358 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewallason4530 lol nice stretch
@markp6062
@markp6062 Жыл бұрын
'Supremely' detailed and useful, Paul! Thanks so much for the work you do.
@timblack7017
@timblack7017 Жыл бұрын
Entertaining and informative presentation as usual PH, thank you!
@forgedindarkness6393
@forgedindarkness6393 Жыл бұрын
A point of appreciation for Paul's presentations: You can tell Paul is using high quality meat in his meat targets. In fact, it's so fresh that you can hear it protesting if you listen carefully enough.
@wab3300
@wab3300 Жыл бұрын
I will be adding the CMR-30 to go with my PMR-30 as another bug out option, same mags and same ammo is a real plus, you can carry lots of 22 mag without adding a lot of extra weight as well. And as always, Sir you make very entertaining and informative videos, Thank you
@Jaden48108
@Jaden48108 Жыл бұрын
Weight is important, as is compactness. Bug out for sure.
@kingelvis7035
@kingelvis7035 Жыл бұрын
Added bonus of .22 mag is it can actually inflict some damage but bullet weighs no more than 22 LR.
@tbmpetsolutions
@tbmpetsolutions Жыл бұрын
Changinging out pmr spring can help reliability.
@richardmoorer2668
@richardmoorer2668 Жыл бұрын
Check out MCarbo for accessory upgrades , especially the stainless feed ramp and recoil Springs
@titusflavius5668
@titusflavius5668 Жыл бұрын
better get some spare firing pins. Unless Keltec has fixed their problem. I replaced one for a friend and it had sharp corners from the machining (stress risers) and that will most always make a break there especially if not heat treated properly
@ericrion9784
@ericrion9784 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul! Wish there were more teachers out there with your knowledge and humility. Keep putting out content and I’ll keep learning!
@donakahorse
@donakahorse Жыл бұрын
62 years old and I'm still a child, I would use tallywhacker ammo just so I could say I did. great job once again. That 5.7x.28 I would think would compare better to .22 hornet, but that ammo isn't so easy to acquire
@williamsporing1500
@williamsporing1500 Жыл бұрын
5.7 isn’t exactly falling out of the trees either!
@frigglebiscuit7484
@frigglebiscuit7484 Жыл бұрын
22tcm is closer, if not hotter.
@donakahorse
@donakahorse Жыл бұрын
@@frigglebiscuit7484 I had to read up on the 22 TCM, I have no experience with it. I hesitate to comment about something I haven't had my hands on, from what I'm reading it's hotter than the 5.7 and not quite as hot as the hornet. I don't know about availability either. Maybe Paul will check it out for those of us who aren't in the know?
@donakahorse
@donakahorse Жыл бұрын
@@williamsporing1500 I live in an area with multiple options from large to small. Most modern ammo is usually in stock, I have to have my guy order 22 hornet when I want more. I see a few options for my 5.7 when I need it. Your mileage may vary.
@williamsporing1500
@williamsporing1500 Жыл бұрын
@@donakahorse lol…we’ve got 22 hornet. The ones we’ve had trickling in is 243, 270, 30/30 and a couple others. I believe it’s because it’s deer season here in Ky. How’s the 410 situation there? I have literally seen 4 boxes in the last 10 months! I don’t get it.
@charlesackley1988
@charlesackley1988 Жыл бұрын
Paul is a national treasure.
@danieldickson8591
@danieldickson8591 Жыл бұрын
Thorough, objective review. Even your subjective assessments, you clarified as such. 👍 The PMR 30 also comes with two 30-round magazines, and I've found them completely interchangeable between the two guns. That's 120 rounds at your ready disposal when you buy the pair.
@turbotek-wj8vc
@turbotek-wj8vc Жыл бұрын
Paul's sense of humor on display, pointing to himself saying "the average shooter"!
@ShowCat1
@ShowCat1 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the quality of your audio and video. I am not a gun-guy, and have nothing against them, but your videos are very enjoyable. Thanks, Paul.
@jw-sigp2258
@jw-sigp2258 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video as always Paul. I’m doing a series on 22 mag for home defense right now with tons of ballistic tests and am so glad you did this video. If you don’t mind I’ve shared the heck out of this video already.
@MattCroushorn
@MattCroushorn Жыл бұрын
A lot of KZfaqrs create content. Paul Harrell makes presentations.
@JasonJones-zn2os
@JasonJones-zn2os Жыл бұрын
Another quality video from Paul Harrel. Thank you Sir.
@osprey_8864
@osprey_8864 Жыл бұрын
I had just looked at one of these the other day at my local shop. Good to see you testing it!
@AzazelCain
@AzazelCain Жыл бұрын
Grand effort all around. It speaks volumes that dang near every comment is about your presentation. To this, I say bravo. As well, the content "versus" match is one I've always wanted to see. I find myself routinely chewing for the under dog, it's good to see it came out on top this time. Kudos to Kel-Tec.
@dr.floridamanphd
@dr.floridamanphd Жыл бұрын
Ok. I’ll delay going to the store to watch this.
@manonmars2009
@manonmars2009 Жыл бұрын
I watched your whole video from start to finish. The presentation is exceptionally informative.
@markbrooksjr6330
@markbrooksjr6330 Жыл бұрын
I was so Moooootivated to watch this latest vid from Paul. Happy Thanksgiving everybody
@PsychoticBovine
@PsychoticBovine Жыл бұрын
I need to find this Sub 4 Tallywacker ammo.
@Matt-xc6sp
@Matt-xc6sp Жыл бұрын
I hope this doesn’t mean we aren’t going to get the annual Thanksgiving episode too
@kftc1980
@kftc1980 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think it does, this was probably filmed a week ago or more.
@rob6850
@rob6850 Жыл бұрын
He already promised a Thanksgiving presentation for this year, don't worry.
@williamharn9048
@williamharn9048 Жыл бұрын
Perish the thought!!
@Matt-xc6sp
@Matt-xc6sp Жыл бұрын
@@rob6850 I figured. The man is a legend and we get a double feature
@PaulHarrell
@PaulHarrell Жыл бұрын
There's always the possiblity of catastrophe, but Thanksgiving special should be on line Thurs. morning.
@wjmorrow263
@wjmorrow263 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul for your assessment of the CMR 30.
@foxcm2000
@foxcm2000 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the pre-Thanksgiving appetizer Paul!
@chuck300mxc
@chuck300mxc Жыл бұрын
I have the PMR 30 and it does come with a learning curve to get familiar with loading the magazine, it can be a pain the get the last 5 shells in it. Mine did loosen up a bit after a few boxes of ammo and I enjoy shooting it, it’s a lot cheaper to plink with than a larger handgun . Any day having a good time with guns can’t be all bad. Great video as always.
@ironmikehallowween
@ironmikehallowween Жыл бұрын
As a long time 22 Magnum fan, I understand your choice of 40 grain for the little magnum based on traditional loadings, but out of curiosity, I checked my vast collection of 22 magnums. I literally have one box of 40 grain projectiles. The majority are 31 or 33. They are much faster and flatter shooting then the older traditional loadings. Speed wise, they are definitely comparable to the 5.7 albeit with a lighter projectile. The damage they do is pretty impressive and is why I use them instead of the 40 grain. I use 45 and 50 grain for specific purposes as well. But, I do find the 5.7 very interesting and would love to see manufacturers produce small, high quality, carry pistols in that caliber, as I think they would be great for my daughters and many others, and be more reliable than a rimfire. It doesn’t seem nearly as versatile as the 22 magnum regarding different bullet weights, bullet construction, and firearms offered , but for self defense purposes, I definitely see the benefit. Thanks for the video.
@Jaden48108
@Jaden48108 Жыл бұрын
The 5.7 does give more options if going after larger game. Protection is also a consideration which the 5.7 offers.
@jasonbayles6261
@jasonbayles6261 Жыл бұрын
The handbook for both the PMR and CMR states to use ammunition of 40grains or higher for it to cycle. I have had issues with CCI Maxi mag not cycling, usually have to use 45 - 50 grain ammunition and only have issues if I load the magazine incorrectly.
@AOMartialArts
@AOMartialArts Жыл бұрын
@@jasonbayles6261 I have to use 40gr CCI or my CMR won't cycle. I ran some 30(32?)gr Remington and it basically functioned like a bolt action. I had to manually cycle the bolt. Fired fine, and the accuracy was roughly the same, just didn't give me the semi-action I was looking for.
@eagleyedye2070
@eagleyedye2070 Жыл бұрын
My cmr will run anything 30 grains and up. Hornsby vmax. The Remington 33 g green tip all work great for me!
@johnweymouth5685
@johnweymouth5685 Жыл бұрын
There are manufacturers making pistols in 5.7, FN does so does ruger and now rock island is, all of which are getting excellent reviews
@luthergillis5632
@luthergillis5632 Жыл бұрын
Another great video. No nonsense and the info really is helpful. Either of these PCC’s would be handy to keep in a go-bag as a possible option to a .22 LR. Very interesting, thank you Paul.
@paulb4496
@paulb4496 Жыл бұрын
Great video Paul! Thanks for all you do.
@twward6613
@twward6613 Жыл бұрын
As I am “poor”, I’ll likely never be able to afford most of the weapons Paul reviews, but I definitely enjoy all of his presentations and insights. Thanks for another great Video!! 🇺🇸
@Hjerte_Verke
@Hjerte_Verke Жыл бұрын
Paul does not do reviews of all the best and newest firearms all the time though; he is a big proponent of using "what works for you" and he often says that means using a firearm that you can afford or one that you inherited, etc., providing that it is effective and in good working order.
@ronniehdable
@ronniehdable Жыл бұрын
Never say you are poor you bring it deeper into existence. Financially challenged is better
@af7119
@af7119 Жыл бұрын
You can change this.
@Jezus42
@Jezus42 Жыл бұрын
Both of these firearms are on the cheaper end of carbines. Also as a young man I didn't have a lot of cash. I started giving my ma what Lil money I had left at the end of the month. A couple years later I owned a $700 savage 308 and an ok vortex scope. That was just the start.
@GunFunZS
@GunFunZS Жыл бұрын
Don't make poverty your identity. The millennial/zoomer grind is real, but so is the capacity for improvement. It may take longer to get past the treading water phase, but have discipline. It takes a lot to keep from falling behind. Eventually if you have the Habits, small gains will add up. Once you start getting traction, if you keep the discipline the gains come quicker too. I don't want to convey that it's easy. It's been a grind for me. And I do think it is a more difficult thing to get on top of for the younger generations than most rumors can appreciate. But if you concede defeat you will never get on top of this. The biggest thing is building a buffer no matter how hard you have to fight for it. Once you get to a place where car trouble or a bad roommate or whatever can't knock out your savings then you are in a position to start making choices that are bigger gains. Plan on either getting promoted every 2 years or changing jobs every 2 years. That means you need to be developing the skills or looking for the lateral transfer well before you need the transfer. For me that was looking like maybe every 3 weeks to see what jobs were available during the lunch break. There are certainly better examples than me. But you don't get the better opportunity if you don't try. And you don't know what's out there if you're not looking.
@JD-tn5lz
@JD-tn5lz Жыл бұрын
Great "grumpy old man" video! Informative as usual, always educational, and entertaining. Reference those mags, if I need more than thirty or sixty rounds for shooting varmint, I need either a new eyeglass prescrip or a much smaller property. Always good to know that there's another Marine out there my age who is more stuck in his ways than I am. Completely with you about the forward assist, those young whippersnackers have no idea what they're talking about.
@mattwami
@mattwami Жыл бұрын
Another well thought out and informative video. Thank you.
@clownworld4655
@clownworld4655 Жыл бұрын
Can’t believe I just found your channel. Awesome stuff. You clearly know what you’re talking about and have a great attention to detail
@CM-ve1bz
@CM-ve1bz Жыл бұрын
V Max is considered a varmint bullet, but as many reloaders have found out, if reloaded to a slower velocity they will hold together and make a nice mushroom. I've tried it myself and saw it with my own eyes.
@ShastaBean
@ShastaBean Жыл бұрын
Interesting & useful...I wonder if then loading something like a 50gr VMAX might give the same expansion vs fragmenting...w/o sacrificing the energy?
@V3RTIGO222
@V3RTIGO222 Жыл бұрын
The fragmentation might be an advantage against unarmored opposition, which I assume is it's primary purpose.
@CM-ve1bz
@CM-ve1bz Жыл бұрын
@@ShastaBean The reduced velocity is an energy killer but the weight retention gives it back . To what extent, we didn't go that deep. We just wanted to know if reduced velocity let the bullet hold together and it did. That's all we wanted to know at that time. Without being at home to check, I can't even tell you what that velocity was but it was right around 1,000 fps. or a little more.
@Jaden48108
@Jaden48108 Жыл бұрын
Cool.
@ShastaBean
@ShastaBean Жыл бұрын
@@CM-ve1bz Wow! I wouldn't have thought it needed to be THAT slow. Then makes me wonder at what velocity it doesn't expand at all, vs fragments into pieces and whether that window of just mushrooming is so tight it's not even worth trying to reliably achieve.
@karsonbranham3900
@karsonbranham3900 Жыл бұрын
Straight up honest review, good points presented that I may not have thought of, but very important! I have to give it to kilter for consistent outside the box thinking, though not always nicely executed. Excellent video!
@mattbrown5511
@mattbrown5511 Жыл бұрын
Another well-presented video brought to us by Paul and the crew. Thank you all very much.
@JolaChris
@JolaChris Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed review Paul! Always entertaining and enlightening!!!
@Iceaxehikes
@Iceaxehikes Жыл бұрын
There is a trick to loading PMR/CMR magazines that only requires your hands. Yes, they still take an inordinate amount of concentration. If you hold the magazine in your dominant hand so the spine is towards your palm, you use your index finge to push round down and in while your non-dominant hand feeds rounds. At about round 15, you have to begin tapping the mag between rounds. Yeah, it's a process.
@FoulPet
@FoulPet Жыл бұрын
Any modern gun that takes more care to load than my musket, isn't a gun for me.
@Iceaxehikes
@Iceaxehikes Жыл бұрын
@@FoulPet Yes. There is that. But having 30 rounds in a magazine pre-loaded does take some of the wind out of your sails.
@seanburke424
@seanburke424 Жыл бұрын
Glock mags have very stiff springs too, and loading them is a chore. Glock includes loading devices with guns, standard.
@Soli_Deo_Gloria_.
@Soli_Deo_Gloria_. Жыл бұрын
Folks either love KEL TEC or hate them. I enjoy the three I have... 💥🔫🤠 Yee Haw
@thomaswashburn3513
@thomaswashburn3513 Жыл бұрын
I have 2… Sub 2000 9mm and the CMR-30. I love both of mine. But, I think the biggest factor in loving or hating is whether it was an early or later generation. Kel-Tec seems to put out junk then fixes them as people complain. I remember seeing older videos about how bad CMR’s were regarding feeding… then they seemingly fixed the issue before I got mine… I only had a couple feeding issues, and in each situation, it was due to me rim locking the rounds. Overall, I like Kel-Tec.
@averageeverydayfishermansh4501
@averageeverydayfishermansh4501 Жыл бұрын
Great review of the plusses and minuses. Thanks Paul.
@kalibrace9557
@kalibrace9557 Жыл бұрын
Loved this video extremely informative while having a good touch of user thought and compatibility
@earhornjones
@earhornjones Жыл бұрын
Great video, as always, Paul. I've had a CMR-30 for several years. It's sort of a novelty gun, for me, bought because I love the Kel-Tec "Space Gun" looks. I've put probably close to 1000 rounds through it, mostly at the range, and it's performed very well. As I was watching the video, I couldn't recall having any magazine loading issues with mine, so I pulled out my magazines and loaded them up to 30 rounds while watching. They both loaded to full capacity without any assistive devices, or issues (unloading them kind of sucked, though). Obviously, that doesn't reflect your experience, and, as we all know, anecdotes do not equal data, but that issue may not be universal to all PMR/CMR magazines. Thanks again for the great videos!
@kingelvis7035
@kingelvis7035 Жыл бұрын
Good to know.
@jasonbayles6261
@jasonbayles6261 Жыл бұрын
I have found unloading a PMR/CMR magazine a serious pain. Only issue I have with the PMR and CMR is that both don't cycle well with CCI Maxi mag.
@jlbksinger
@jlbksinger Жыл бұрын
Only advantage to the 5.7 is you can reload it. The fragmenting depending on use is the only downside. Thanks for the information, Paul, another great video.
@miketyson8933
@miketyson8933 Жыл бұрын
That fragmenting does more damage and will drop anything it hits quicker when those pieces are shredding the lungs.
@Scaliad
@Scaliad Жыл бұрын
I don't know from experience, but I understand 5.7 is a trick to reload.
@bluepunk182
@bluepunk182 Жыл бұрын
That, and it's inherently more reliable being centerfire...
@TheGremlin50cal
@TheGremlin50cal Жыл бұрын
5.7X28 has no case taper to speak of, that why the P90 can have a perfectly straight 50-round mag. The downside of this perfectly straight cartridge is the cartridge experiences a lot of friction during extraction, because of this factory ammo has a dry film lubricant applied to aid in extraction. I am sure that the lubricant is not completely used up after one firing but I couldn't say how many firings a piece of brass could take before this lubricant is completely gone and you start to get brass stuck in the chamber. It may be possible to apply more lubricant by coating the finished cartridges in wax or something but I have never tried it so I can't say if that would work or not. My point is that 5.7x28 is not as simple to reload as some other calibers.
@jlbksinger
@jlbksinger Жыл бұрын
@@miketyson8933 That is true, but the .22 WMR will work for small game as well as defense. .22 WMR is not my first choice for personal protection, but I agree with Paul that a pistol/rifle combo is the best option. Not beating on Ruger or Kel-Tec. Just would not want to small game hunt with 5.7. I might want to eat what I shot.
@georgezipp8783
@georgezipp8783 Жыл бұрын
As always , you have great info
@TheIronbark
@TheIronbark Жыл бұрын
Filled the 40 min wait for the Aus vs France World Cup game. Paul you're a genius
@littlebiscuits
@littlebiscuits Жыл бұрын
Still in the middle of the 114 shuffle here in Oregon, a very dark time for the country. Perhaps after this settles down you could consider a video on the effects extreme temperature changes from leaving magazines and ammunition in a vehicle for days or weeks might have on reliability and accuracy. Anyways, thank you for the wealth of knowledge and entertainment you give freely to the world, it is appreciated.
@R32R38
@R32R38 Жыл бұрын
First shot, 2020. Both the velocity, and the vision needed to read the chronograph at that distance.
@TimberwolfCY
@TimberwolfCY Жыл бұрын
Great video as always Paul, thanks a ton And man you weren't kidding, that sun was setting *fast* !
@dizdizzy8937
@dizdizzy8937 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing! Nicely done
@bernardomontell873
@bernardomontell873 Жыл бұрын
I got a CMR 30 and there is no gun in my safes that I like more. Everything that Paul mentioned is consistent with my experience, hate the mag release but LOVE Everything else.
@beerdrinker6452
@beerdrinker6452 Жыл бұрын
Always interesting and informative content. Thank you.
@mattevans-koch9353
@mattevans-koch9353 Жыл бұрын
Never a dull evening when a Paul Harrel video is up. Thank you sir for the comparison. Best wishes for a happy Thanksgiving.
@StagFabulous
@StagFabulous Жыл бұрын
I'll have you know that Sub-Four Tallywacker is absolutely worth presenting as viable ammunition. Officially banned though it is from the civilian market, acquiring it is as easy as going to your local Dollar General and telling that one guy (you know the one) that you "simply must receive *the business* he has to offer, and won't take 'no' for an answer." You may need to throw in a wink to convince him you're cool.
@davidskaggs9914
@davidskaggs9914 Жыл бұрын
Great review / comparison Paul...I've been looking at both of these and i am a long time fan of 22mag for varmits. Since that's all i would use it for anyway and i like the savings on ammo, weight and compactness going for keltec. Better options than both of these for shtf
@mitchbertone3809
@mitchbertone3809 Жыл бұрын
As always, a great video Paul, thank you.
@matthewjacobs8858
@matthewjacobs8858 Жыл бұрын
Paul, love you dude. You always make me laugh, in the best way. Most of all I love your attention to detail and your concise speech. Keep it up, I'm a fan for life.
@Rocky-Stone
@Rocky-Stone Жыл бұрын
Love my CMR. Even though. 22 mag isn't cheap it's a lot cheaper and easier to find than the 57. For my use here on the farm the super lightweight CMR and it's 30 round mags make it awesome.
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