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For someone interested in dialing in sounds from a few of their favorite guitarists and having the ability to quickly select them from presets which unit is the easiest to use. Just to clarify ( someone not into searching for the next best inspirational tone , instead just recreating/ close enough tone so they can play along with a few of their favorite albums connecting to an frfr speaker , home use) Mooer ge 300 Axe effects Line 6 Kemper ?

Cheers!

Just a loaner, good fun!

Best of both worlds!

This is just a loaner, good fun!

im using a marshall MG 50 FX with a behringer ultra metal um 300 distortion pedal and its got a great sound!!!

I would LOVE to try one of those amps. Very cool piece of gear.

What a time to be a musician. All these amazing tools. I dream of owing an axe 3. But it's far too expensive for me at the moment.

Same here. Just switched to a Kemper from the fractal fm9. So easy to dial in a tone. Really don’t have to dial in anything at all

@@AC-pu2eh Just sold the FM9, and now very tempted for a kemper as well

@@AlexRafn give it a try. Such a completely different feel in my opinion

I went the Headrush route because of the processing clarity of it...and have an elaborate parellell pedal setup in its FX loop... I record directly into Abelton from the HR... I'm more than happy with it... :)

Junkie XL did the soundtrack for that, love his videos about it

@@LeonTodd I just spun Junkie XL's Saturday Teenage Kick - I like the guitar! Hint of Beastie Boys to my ear.

Hahaha I love that comparison

Randy umm maybe if I had an extra four grand lying around...

The whole "Profiling" process essentially selects an underlying amp model, shoots an IR and applies a tone match.

Sums up my feelings exactly. The added input EQ isn't necessarily bad for mix ready tones but it would be nice to have it as an optional extra.

If you still have the Kemper - I've read that the refine process can dial some of it out. Might be the "definition" parameter; although, I think its a tilt EQ rather than a mid boost/cut. Might want to give that a twist.

I don't think so

I like this idea :D

i think a lot of the warmth people describe comes down to the fact that good profiles are already dialled in, whereas adding a simple amp and cab in the axe requires tweaking to get dialled in. The Axe-III Atomica High or Friedman BE C45 at stock settings just blow me away.

Out of your mind, deaf.

Randall Sandmann I have a Kemper now, had an AX8. Like them both, but recording is my priority, and Fractal was significantly better. Ended up with ear fatigue from the Kemper. I’m no tech guru so to be fair there may be some settings that could solve the problem. But I did minimal tweaking on both. In my car I could crank and enjoy my Fractal recordings, but not Kemper.

Why? When would most players ever use the Boston guitar sound unless they were playing in a Boston tribute band? Which is ironically what Tom Scholz is up to these days. I love Boston. Bought the first album right after if came out and wore it out but I have never walked into a music store thinking "I wonder if they have an amp here that will give me a nasal overproduced tone?". That is a one trick tone.

That’s a rather narrow way of looking at it. I used to have a Rockman. X100 and only wished I had more control over the sound. Really wanted to use it in many of the same areas where people would otherwise use the Metal Zone or even the Rectifuer. I think you are giving it a bum rap.

Go and check out my Rockman tones matches for the AxeFX

I tried it a few months back and wasn't too taken with it which is why i didn't up reviewing it. I'd be happy to revisit it if there's interest though.

About that - search "LEON T" on the Kemper rig exchange and see what pops up ;)

Leon Todd I have a Soldano but don’t have a Kemper lol:) Honest question for you.... I normally mic my Mesa Mark and Soldano cabs and get great sound. I wanted to make things easier by going direct so I finally got to using my Rivera Rockcrusher Recording as a load box and ran into my CAB M. I found a cab and mic positions I like but in no way did it sound like a mic’d amp. More compressed and devoid of tonality (meaning the Mesa and Soldano sounded not as distinct). Sounded noisy and more fake (like a direct signal) in the mix. Any ideas? Plugins I tried (like the Fortin) sounded better! Maybe I should just get a modeler like the Neural Quad when it comes out and use that instead for quick tracks? Not sure what you think of the whole thing and if you’ve experienced the same thing.

@@epg2501 I've got an Axe-Fx and the Soldano and Mark Series models in particular are ridiculously good. I used mine to shoot IR's of my cabs and I use those so it brings a level of personalisation to the whole process. Makes recording a breeze.

Yes, but why stop there? Profile your friends amps, sneak out onto shows and profile bands entire rigs, profile your Playstation!

@@LeonTodd profile your dishwasher and your next door neighbors’ fighting over “why he liked that girls swimsuit photo” on her Instagram! And then profile their crying baby from the unstable living conditions! The world is YOURS with this device!

I like that

That being said, I'd definitely get a Kemper sometime in near future.

What about line 6 lol

Kemper = taking a picture/scan, Axe FX = digital painting , Analog = Oil painting. The way I see it lol.

That being said everyone can't be an artist...Some guys just want to enjoy and appreciate what has already been done...Different paths to enjoy beauty!

Soooooooo overpriced for how basic it is.

Prime Dog kemper all day

@@jessetate9701 buy one and shut the fuck up about the other lol, that's what I always say. At least that's what I've said since I bought an Ax8 a couple months ago.

i own the kemper and the axe fx ll mark ll and for me it´s the complete opposite. the axe fx is way ahead in my opinion. the sound is a lot fuller and the effects sound a lot better. also you have more options (for example in the kemper the reverb is always in the last spot) i found this explanation for the sound being fuller (i think it was by cliff himself): They do use IRs. They use 256 point IRs augmented with parametric EQ. This is easily demonstrated by examining the data structure of the profile and by measuring the device (or by using their IR converter which converts long IRs to 256 point IR plus EQ). What they say is "we use something more advanced" or something like that. By "more advanced" they mean they augment the IR with parametric EQ. However they must augment the IR with parametric EQ because the IR is too short to reproduce low frequencies accurately. The frequency resolution of an IR is proportional to its length: the longer the IR the better the resolution. To accurately reproduce a guitar cabinet requires at least 1000 points from my research. (Note: I'm using the term "parametric EQ" as a substitute for IIR filter since most people don't know what an IIR filter is.) This technique has been around since the early days of modelers (I believe the Pod 2.0 was the first to do this). The impetus for this is that it uses much less processing power since the amount of processing power required is directly proportional to the length of the IR. A 256 point IR plus, for example, an 8-band EQ can be equivalent to a 512 point IR but uses less processing power. The downside is the phase response isn't the same but that is usually inaudible. In their specific case the amplifier output frequency response and cabinet frequency response are combined into a single IR plus EQ since they aren't measured separately. See my MIMIC whitepaper for more information on frequency response, etc. You can make assumptions about the amplifier output frequency response in order to separate it from the cabinet response. In their case I believe they assume there is a 6 dB resonance at 125 Hz plus a 6 dB highshelf (incidentally this is the same power amp frequency response model that the Marshall JMP-1 used albeit using analog filters). For many amplifiers this is a reasonable approximation. The Axe-Fx II IRs are 2048 sample (eight times the resolution) and don't require augmentation.

Stainless Steel WTF!?!? You’re kidding right? 😉

Thé fact is that I owned AX8 for years, then AxeFX3 for two month before going back to my Kemper and S-Gear for plugin. Axe FX simply cannot have the feel of a real tube amp compared to Kemper. Funny that profiling is the best solution to recreate Amp+Cab+Mic sound, way better than Fractal modeling despite using cheap DSPs. Another thing is that kemper users don’t even want any new Kemper Hardware because for them it’s perfect. Even effects are cool but they are a little less good than FAS ones, BUT drive stomps are better than on AxeFX. They only thing that count is = how do you love the sound of your device and it’s clearly the best sound I ve heard from Leon... Sur he’s gonna love it and keep it.

Was it just the sound or did Kemp have other advantages

Dan Brian Only the sound because everything else is shity, game boy screen , NO editor for Mac (or PC), and no audio interface, just analogic or SPDIF... But despite it’s an old device, with buttons and menus not very convenient, the sound is unique and the only one that recreate a perfect amp feel.

This!

Plus one!

Yes the FX is far better at covering up the lack of talent 😬 Nothing like plugging straight into a good amp without effects and the Kemper can give you any great amp!

Axe doesn't do better on price or creating a real amp tone. It also puts you in this weird club of people who feel inferior constantly and feel the need to say what they have is better. Which it isn't.

Exactly. Axe fx 3 is superior among the others. Profling is not a problem it's just a matter of EQ

The MP-1 is a pretty sweet ride

I hear and therefore believe the exact opposite😃. But I am pretty sure in a few years AXE FX 7 will convince me and will be equally good as good old Kemper Version I. With that release speed of fractal that should not take too many years. But what I am really waiting for - I have to admit this - is a FAS AX9. That would be my unit ... If Kemper is not any faster and releases a mind blowing Kemper II floor unit.

@@alienlovesecrets9379 indeed.

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Cj Naotda you are correct

As I say at the end, they're different tools for different players with different goals. We all like to tell ourselves that the choice we made is the right choice, when in the scheme of making guitar music noises it doesn't really matter. Let's all go do some practice.