Bonus if you can play dante+styanax with them

one time someone called me for help. So I re-did DA with whatever setup I wanted. My friend got rewards for basically calling me in and not leaving.

I just spam pubs and win in 2-3. idk

Me vs my noob randons

I always just join squads in recruit. Almost always 2-3 legendary 4 players.

Absolutely. Always laugh when I see content creators or people on Reddit say this can't be done with pubs. I've done the Elite version with pubs every week so far with no problems (outside of the first couple hours after it came out, when people were still gauging how it all worked: mostly too many newbies that didn't realize the immortal liminus would kill them so fast)

It's all luck based. There's a lot of people in public who just expect to get carried. Reminds me of the one time I went into an eidolon hunt in public. Somebody was frost, for some fucked up reason. So I'd rather do it solo, or with friends I know can do well on their own, than have to babysit.

Random ain't so bad been doing them in public squads not soo bad !

@@jamesogeto3061 I am also surprised it hasn't been so bad pugging this. Normal netracell pugs are worse.

@@andieg8615 yeah just have a good 1 good weapon so that you can kill enemies

This carried me hard last week Hopefully it stays for some time

Also, use ancient Eximus healer specters!

​@@winnerdiego4562no consumables

Oh hey bluprint

I think they will patch this. its bypassing the mechanics in a way i think its undermining the achievement.

@@icesharkk6399 how would they patch this, though?

​@@ric6611quite easily? Limit it to one completion per week

​@@undisabled1552what if you only did a lower tier and wanted to go again for better rewards?

@@undisabled1552 Not a great solution, now if you wanted to try more challenges you can't. You unlocked elite DA? Well, play it next week. Everyone will be pressed to try it with all the challenges, or not do it at all. It will be frustrating because you don't want to underevaluate your own capacity or you won't get another shot. If they did that the unhappiness from the community wouldn't be worth it.

That's why we usually have variations.

My 2nd favorite part is how I don't have enough weapon slots for that same half of the equipment

@@kaiserium8551 that just comes with time. Invest in trades with players, buy more slots or ask friends if they can gift it to you.

My favourite part is having an account I've invested a lot of time into and being rewarded for my diverse array of equipment.

my 2nd favorite part is the limit to the # of riven slots we have so it's not even worth maxing any non-meta weapons

I believe that's the true end game. Have every single frame and weapon in the game fully forma'd.

Think it's easier to have a build on all warframes and then gamble on the weapons

I think it's good to encourage players to experiment and learn how to to use various weapons in the game instead of the same 4 ones your most comfortable with. It also means the more weapons/Warframes you master (as in learn how to properly mod and use them) the better your chances are of getting a 'good' Loadout in Archimedea or Duviri.

I love using new weapons in the circuit but if I ever see the Stug once I unlock Deep Archimedia I'm going to be offended.

Technically one of the solutions is brute force (catalysting and forma-ing the weapons)

I failed my first elite archimidea this week because of it. Our khora went down because of them. Then i tried tanking them for long enough to get the revive off, but i failed

It's literally like having 10 toxic procs on you per second. It bypasses shield gating, which is how most frames do endgame content.

Fortunately they are vulnerable to some CC. Limbo Stasis trivialised it last week; and this week I found out that Creeping Terrify's 80% slow applies to them, which is great because it's Nekros' Helminth subsumed so you can put it on any frame, and get a pretty good Armour strip to boot

You mean those invincible guys with the death aura?

They should at least get a hard-core nerf to their immunities. I hate how last week when I got Khora as a choice that even when I passed on the "-75% ability duration" debuff that I used Khora's Ensnare (one of very few crowd control abilities that works on the Liminus enemies) with about 231% ability duration, which should give Ensnare a 30-second duration, but because of how broken overpowered those things are Ensnare with a 231% ability duration only lasts 1-2 seconds on them. I get this is supposed to be end-game content, but this is just plain ridiculous and unreasonable.

There is a modifier that disables EVERY gear if i remember correctly

@@Artikz_ Correct. I've had that modifier, it completely blocks all equipment usage.

@@hexerin fair enough, had not run into that one myself, hence "AFAIK"

And the things about ammo drop and ammo drain. It would be even harder time without a Lavos

@@SecretData001 Don't need to take a lavos, having a pocket Protea specter helps

I don't think there's any Bypassing ... They just Deal more Damage than We Do.... And they Never Reload. 😳

Back when we had the event in which we could fight the wolf of saturn six over and over again for free, I gave my crewmate a kuva zarr, flew to his spawn as fast as possible with wukong and just watched as my buddy 2 shot him. When I tried using the same zarr build myself, it just sucked. I farmed a bunch of sets of his hammer.

Arsenal😂

It didn't happen for The Circuit... And it Damn Sure ain't Happening Here.... Gotta Improve those Builds, Tenno.

@@lookalike4805 Circuit you can force rotate the loadouts it gives you or wait it out, you can't for this. I am not a huge fan given it costs paid resource to be able to own more items at once.

@@lookalike4805 Circuit has decrees that will more than make up for weapon deficits and make it easy to go lvl 2000+ without even feeling it because your weapons deal an extra 500% damage. Deep Archimedia has -75% Duration to go "lol screw your duration based frames that you have to pick, have fun playing Hydroid."

@@adummy9664 That's not 500%, It's more like 200% x 300% x 150% and times other multipliers you can acquire. That's way -- like, _WAY_ more than 500. Meaning you can complete the Circuit with literally any weapon, if you get a decent build for it fast enough not to be wiped.

@@ShadeAKAhayate I was making a generic example but yes that's exactly what I was talking about.

All weapons are "viable" at high levels. Even the Cronus can kill a Rogue Necramech if you invest in it. What you meant to say is "as good as the Torid Incarnon"

​@@CrashSableStop this nonsense. No, not everyone has the time or plat or time to earn plat. In order to buy rivens and forma an item several times every week. You act like this game isn't broken in this element. This week I'm here with no weapons I have invested in before, I'm down 300 platinum on buying rivens and forma to make this work. I've got 3 frames that all focus on CC and somehow I've gotta help on the effervo boss with no ability duration to CC the adds. Short story: I will need to be carried.

​@@monkaeyes3417 thinking you even need a riven to do anything in high level is stupid, everyone's been asking for endgame and when its not accesible by newer players you're mad? Thats the whole point of an endgame lmao

@@sansy279 you have an unrealistic expectation for what an "endgame" player is. Someone with a full inventory of invested in weapons is not an endgame player. That is a no-life player.

​​@@monkaeyes3417lmao, this is endgame, if you don't have the necessary stuff that means THIS ISNT FOR YOU Why do you believe you're entitled to being able to breeze through any content in the game? So many games have endgames that players have to work towards, this is Warframe's endgame. You are so salty it's really funny, in another reply you said someone with a fully upgraded arsenal is a no loser, no, some of us have been playing for close to 10 years and FINALLY we have our endgame, just like wow does, just like FFXIV does, just like GW2 does. New players shouldn't be able to easily finish any content in the game, that's the point of progression. Also, you have normal netracell runs, which are a lot easier for newbies and also have great rewards Stop complaining about this game having an endgame, it's pathetic, you want everything served on a silver platter, why? Didn't you play any other games in your entire life or something? Literally every mmo has content dedicated for the high level, highly geared players. Jesus Christ, people like you are dragging this community down, you literally lack any sense.

Nukor doesn't even need a forma. Thing is cranked

Warframe players when the content specifically catered to end game players caters to end game players

@@711_skiddlz my bad I should have invested in MR Fodder weapon #43

@@711_skiddlz >endgame mission >crappy weapons I've never bothered to hold on to because they are, well, crappy Ah yes, extremely engaging gameplay design by DE. Hopefully in the next update, the missions themselves are gonna be random as well, you're only gonna know what you have to do once you've loaded in the map.

@@grev3471 skill issue get better at the game

Baruuk is also a great "I hate all of this, just let me have one degree of freedom" pick. Requires no weapons and doesn't mind most of the debuffs. Building Dante for his book is also a pretty solid move. It'll be weaker than Kullervo or Baruuk in terms of damage output, but the support options he has can make up for that if you're in a public group.

Well it is more on mastering your stuff to be honest

You can if you have all the Gear Fully Potatoed and Formad.

​@@lookalike4805In other words being allergic to touching grass

​@@user-ci5zp6yf5lin other words, maybe this is endgame that's only made for endgame players? Just like wow? Just like FFXIV? Just like GW2? Just like destiny 2? Just like any mmo that has a dedicated piece of content for people that have reached endgame? You literally have the easier version, netracells so you don't cry about missing rewards. Crybabies, crybabies everywhere

​@@Kuran1986mf i am an end game player but half the weapons in the game is unplayable garbage and like half of the normally ''playable'' ones are not playable in deep archimedea you are not an end game player, you are just a no life loser that has everything useless in the game maxed out if you have no problems with the game mode

So the -75% total duration modifier wasn’t an issue for her kit? I figured it would’ve been.

​@@SmoothTurtle840 just not turning on that modifier more than solves that issue

Did you just not take the negative duration modifier? I had crap primary/melee, but Baruuk as a frame choices, so I dropped the No Operator modifier, allowing me to gets LOTS of safe revives on teammates that don't know how to build into survivability lol

​​@@motaluxb-but muh 50 vosfor💀

​@@drkillbrew6387different person. I also skipped the duration modifier as i was playing hydroid. I had a good selection of weapons to choose from(soma, Grimoire, magistar) all with forma thrown at them

There's actually a lot that can be done with just that one flex slot. Carrier or scavenger mods are a great tool for the ammo issues. Loss of operator can hurt if you rely on it for your energy econ, but still utilizing the passive energy cost reduction of Zenurik alongside arcane energize, arcane steadfast, energy nexus, archon stretch where applicable, or even the energy regen aura if needed can buy you just enough leeway to make it through. As for duration, that may just be what you burn the flex slot for it you rolled only frames that very much need that stat. And if you're rebuttal is "Well what if I dont have energize or steadfast? What if my build needs X or Y that the modifiers are blocking." Well then... You might not be ready for Deep Archimedia. This is a weird time as it's been commonplace that whatever new version of endgame added with every patch has been doable with a relatively non-optimized, run of the mill build that a lot of long term players just have the items for sitting around. Deep Archimedia is not that. It is supposed to be a challenge. You're suppose to have to work for it. For instance, I rolled Wisp, miter, Dual Furis, and Ruvox the week. My wisp prime is a bit under where it should be, so I couldve absolutely taken the time to put some form in to get her fully prepped. My ruvox isnt even fully evolved and I couldve finished that out. However, I specifically made the point of finally getting the miter incarnation genesis (which was an hour in duviri farming Tasoma), then put a potato and 2 forma into this gun that I hadn't touched since I got it to level 30 and promised myself I'd get around to the incarnon eventually. Even then, it still took 2 or 3 runs to complete. Yes, DA is hard and requires you to work for your build. That's the point.

​@@themonkeys96this is an attempt at hoping you buy plat to get mostly everything you need from DE. Nothing else.

@@stefanlewis7773 Or it's actual endgame content finally and you're just bad. Warframe has one of the least predatory F2P models on the market, yet you're saying they just randomly abandoned it? Cope.

@@themonkeys96 simps gonna simp I guess. l've had no problem finishing elite archimedia. If you think that making enemies immune or invulnerable and removing your abilities are good game mechanics then you're more stupid than I thought.

@@themonkeys96 "you're just bad at the game" as if warframe requires any skill.🤣 I guess killing braindead AI make you feel good about your "skill." DE is somewhat reasonable with mtx 's because it's necessary, if they choose to be greedy the game will die. They've tried unreasonable monetization like the recent heirloom skin and quickly apologized and stated they would change any others going forward.

And before anyone asks, yes I've gotten all the rewards just by doing EA

Just have a friend carry you lol

I just make deals and run my preferred loadout to carry a group of 3 in exchange for one of them carrying me with full directives back.

You can: -Ignore one equipment requirement because you don't need the 50 vosfors reward at 37 points -Mod for viral, corrosive, cold and puncture (increasing critical damage and survivability) , radiation and blast (cc for non-overguarded enemies) and status duration to support your team or atypical elements for priming murmurs (like gas blast magnetic void and nukor's microwave). -Make your frame a tank with auras that supports your team and use guardian derision (yes I forgot it exists too) and draw fire away from your team -Subsume banshee's silence, which is a must have in defense and assassination. It can block all eximus' abilities, like the draining auras and 3 shields that make them immortal, the homing sparks and ice globes that are annoying af as well as necramechs' abilities -Be shameless and use voidrigs more than your setup -Be even more shameless than me spamming kullervo and build revenant with mesmer shield to make your squad inmortal

What options do you have?

damn I feel ya… I guess this is the true endgame players have been crying for years

i did all my deep archimedea without any prime mods

@@flowerofash4439 missed the point 🤦🏽‍♂️

Don't even need Decoy, EA is super easy

cool

for me it is gloom for the defense

@@wtfman2049 Until you get Overguard modifier and then Gloom becomes useless. Decoy has the highest target priority in the game, even higher than defense targets, that's why its useful for this stuff.

Why decoy?

I didn't mention it because I've had reports to the contrary.

You tested an MR0 account's selection in Deep Archimedea, content that requires you to have maxed out the Cavia's rank which is content after New War? You're going to have to walk me through that one.

​@@Joe90hjust don't rank up I suppose. Doesn't feel very practical for any reason though, so I can't see that being done.

@@TheKengineer I'll add my voice to those who can confirm that there absolutely isn't any kind of protection(s) in place. I have no idea where that rumor started, but it's absolutely false. You can absolutely get a choice between three things you don't own, which makes it impossible to get full research that week unless you go out and grind one of the equipment you're missing from those three options.

@GhostlyPancakeTheOddMancake I don't think that's Possible.... I'm almost Certain Defeating Vay Hek is either a Junction Requirement or a Main Quest Requirement.... And that node is MR Locked. The only way around it is for Accounts that Cleared it before The Locks were put in place (your Account would need to be atleast 6 Years Old)

Doing assassination was hell, thought my xbox was going to explode at some point XD

​@@Marin117.Yh that fight is a nightmare on last gen consoles

Hidden Difficulty Unlocked 👀

It almost killed my eyes with effects and screen shake

Build Issue 🤔

Skill issue

Arsenal

Arse and all

Meanwhile the "endgame" part of the game is stupidly easy, it should have been level 800-1000 enemies for elite, make it proper endgame, I put together a really bad build this week and beat EA with no struggles

@@mightymushroom4980There’s really not much of a difference between lvl 300-400 and lvl 800-1,000 enemies aside from almost requiring armor strip methods for the latter. That doesn’t make it more difficult, it just makes it so you have to put two emerald shards on every frame you choose for it.

@@SmoothTurtle840 More like their survivability barely changes but you're forced to shieldgating on nearly all frames (not very fun). I think the levels are fine rn.

@@mightymushroom4980 And people are still finding a way to bitch. Like... you can forgo one of the limitations, just bring Revenant subsumed with something useful and half the problem is already removed, if you're REALLY unlucky and have no usable weapon too, just bring Octavia subsumed with something useful. I swear half of the playerbase wants to run 1 frame, and 3 weapons for the entire game, in A LOOTER shooter inspired game.

Loki is great for tanking, because he has augment for transposition and invisibility. With not maxed duration (only 3 not tau shards for duration) invulnerability is about 12 sec for you and around 24 sec for allies, base cost 25 (IIRC if you will max duration it will cost about 30-35 energy), no cooldown nor limitation on simultaneously being on several characters. Plus you can use augment for 4th to mimic Nyx's chaos. You also can try to cheesy place a decay with augment for back up death save. Plus, because you only need duration and a little bit of efficiency to compensate debuff from mods - you have spare mod slot(s) to put whatever you want else. And Loki's invisibility is not channeled - so say hello to zenurik.

All of them, any configuration

Awesome! Thank You for info!

Don't take it the wrong way, but there already is gazillion things to do just for fun, while i understand your POV, it is crucial to also understand those players who want more difficulty/challenge and rewards.

No way your complaining that an endgame game mode is for endgame players

​@MagikarpMan but your everyday player is most likely an endgame player if they have deep archimedea available to them, they just do not live for the sole purpose of playing warframe.

​@@beegyoshi1685you don't need to live for the sole purpose of playing Warframe to do deep arch media, if Ur an endgame player you have many weapons and many frames so eda should be no problem even for casual players. I'm a casual player and i do it just fine

Just play the other 99% of the game ffs. You don't NEED to be able to face roll every piece of content in the game.

Just have a friend carry you and vice versa taking turns.

Honestly think it's geared at players who have been playing a long time with a lot built out and are just looking to be challenged

​@CreEpeRneSs125 You do realize this only shows how poor the design is, right? Carry me / I'll carry you to skip the difficulty. Thats... not good game design.

If there was no random load outs, this wouldn't be challenging at all. The players have far to much strength to just allow us to bring whatever we want

@@thesinhoundThat’s only if you want to get around the weapon requirements and modifiers. It’s going to be tedious if you remove the difficulty from it, similar to how not running steel path mission variants will result in more time to get the same level of loot.

gear restriction is not fun if you want to limit yourself go ahead but dont forth others so when so many weapons are trash

@@redlord4321 Right, people act like anyone can just create an account and have a Torid Incarnon with 8 Forma, a Potato and Arcane in 2 months, EVERYONE that has meta weapons worked hard for them, they may not have created the builds, but they still had to built the normal Torid, still had to grind SP Circuit for the Adapter, grind the currencies, unlock the challenges, forma the weapon 8 times, not to mention all the steps that are not directly tied to meta but still take a long time (unlocking Steel Path, farming Arcanes and Adapters, farming and maxing lvl 10 mods that are expensive as fuck, etc), it takes a long time to get there, and these people deserve the "power" they have. Like, i'm not against what they are doing with Archimedea, i don't have it unlocked yet, but the concept is super cool, reminds me a bit of GW2 Fractals, but if the entire end game turn into "restriction fest" it will become old and boring very fast.

That final 50 vosfur ani't worth it chief

@@redlord4321 Friend, I was stuck with an ammo limitation and my secondary options were the stug, aegrit, or twin kohmak. With primary choices that were also pretty atrocious, and my only good melee option being the Keratinos. It made me think of a creative way to do the missions and use the gear presented, which is awesome! If you aren't fond of the gear limitations, you can always ignore them for lesser rewards, or simply run netracells instead with the 2 charges you would use for deep archimedea. That's the beauty of this game, and especially this system, we can all choose to play it however we enjoy.

​@@redlord4321skill issue This is endgame, dedicated for endgame players, just like wow, FFXIV, gw2, D2 and any other mmo have. You literally have the easier version, netracells, if you arsenal isn't good enough for this. Let us have our fucking endgame and stop crying

The schools are something too I never really found because it was such a chore. Keeping track of what lenses i did an did not put on a frame or weapon. I just always like to be able to get the things when I felt like it because there was nothing pressuring me to do so. But now from the looks of this type of content it looks like it's kind of forcing it. Hope I'm wrong because so far I seem to manage just fine. Instill path circuit. But that content looks like it scales a bit higher.

All the loadout options can include Frames/Weapons you don't own so that wont help. It'll actually make you have less options

Man you shouldve researched this 1st lmaoo the game will still roll equipment you don't own

Imagine an endgame activity needing you to have an endgame level amount of options

I rolled all 3 of the frames I don't have this week, as well as not owning any of the primaries in my selection. I've never thrown anything away and am mr28, sucks to suck lol

@@Marin117. nope it alway rolls atleast one weapon i own in my inventory

Pretty sure those don't work on Players 🤔

amazing

That Sounds like a Build Issue 🤔

or skill issue

🤣always the skill issue

I was that Loki and all you need is Safeguard Switch and duration. 15 seconds of invulnerability on your teammates at the cost of slight disorientation.

@@SolymribnWaliBarad nice! I wish they’d rework his switch ability to not give me motion sickness lol

@@senecahs74 The recent change to not have switch stick Loki in place came in clutch, otherwise i would've died to liminus several times over (still did).

Some people like using the *Aklato* ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

DE are addicted to gambling