Andy Beyer is a living legend. He is a hero of mine. Long live Andy!

Fierceness gets the American P. Or the Justify trip, the race is over

Fierceness is a toss for me. Doesnt like traffic. High dosage.

This was really great. Much respect to you both!

As a Horse Racing fan, I love Andrew Byers comments on feature races this year. The sound quality was so much better. In my years of racing experience as a handicap or if it rains, it will change the whole outcome of the handicapping that will add to the mix and maybe a huge price in the Kentucky Derby. Good luck to all and made the best horse win.

Speaking of Beyers, the best winning Beyer at Churchill was no other than Mystik Dan, the horse for the course angle and I overlooked it.

Thanx Andy and Brad for your annual opinions, (older) guys rule, went Tony first Kentucky Derby in 1967 bet two dollars and spent a lifetime trying to get that two dollars back

You didn't address what difference an off track may make if we get one on Saturday, nor what difference off tracks made in this year's preps. Catching Freedom and Mystik Dan should move up in consideration with an off track, I think. If JV lets Fierceness run at his comfortable, natural cruising speed, the horse is fast enough to get a good position, but if you see the jock sending him and he has to really hustle to clear the field, you can tear up your ticket. I respect Fierceness most, but if you use him too much early, you'll cook his goose.

You’re So Right Mr. Beyer...A Make Belief Big Closer Like Sierra Leone Should’ve Finish Up Under 12.4

Andrew Beyer is picking the favorite? Not the Japanese horses? That’s a shocker. Now I’m against the Fierceness! Andrew Beyer’s Last year derby throw outs finished 1-2-3

Won't Fierceness be breaking from the 16th pp because of the scratch?

One thing I don't understand is Mr. Beyer thinking that Baffert is so great, while he tosses Stronghold. Stronghold is the West coast champion, so if he doesn't hit the board in the derby, that certainly doesn't make Baffert look good this year. Something doesn't fit there. I don't know which "something" it is.

Way back in 1977 Andy introduced me to handicapping and Saratoga in "My $50,000 Year at the Races." But, nobody's perfect. In his original speed figure book "Picking Winners" he asserts that pace has absolutely no effect on the race. Whether the horse ran at the front or at the back, the fastest horse as determined by the fig would win. I've always wondered whether that was edited out of future editions of the book.

This year should be up for grabs, because of the basically low speed figures, the low prices winning almost every prep race, and the two year old heroes still doing so well, which means that basically we're looking at two year olds. That makes this year's Derby like most of the derbies, a "class determiner" race, instead of a "class determined" race. Still, while I think the long list is pretty long, there are many comfortable "tosses".

Just a touch ❤😂

Greatest Trainer Ever With The Juice! What Happen The Last Two Years When His Horses Were Off The Juice?

Depends if the track is deep or Sealed. You have to watch the tractors raking the dirt

One thing I'll say Domestic Product has not had a fast pace to close into.

Domestic Product The Long Shot Play

Watching this Early Sunday morning, when all the dust has settled and mud has dried, flaking off like every prediction I have listened to BEFORE the race. At 41:48 The boys touch on Mystik Dan and pooh-pooh his 101 and 550K win...but at exactly 42 minutes, Andy explains why he won at Oaklawn, "the rail was definitely an edge...plus it was a muddy track". Nothing to watch here, Folks - moving on to...another hundred feet and there would have been another winner.

Sir, It’s Possible Churchill Downs Knows Something Else About Bob Baffert They Not Telling The Public,,,,👑🇺🇸🇯🇲 Mr. KeenObserVatioN PhD,🇯🇲🇺🇸🏰

Beyer, you have not picked a Derby winner in ages! A definite Bet against!

Just a Game Andy good memory 😂 nice turfer

Spectacular Bid won the Bluegrass and the Louisiana Derby and I believe he had a start in between those two starts.

If you bet the Highest Last Out Beyer Figure since 2000 You Show Profit! Kind of Making a Point Against your Argument.

First ridiculous thing I've ever heard Andy beyer say!!! Tyler only used what was necessary to ensure the win and didn't get far into him. Even my untrained eyes saw that. Chad ensured that trip with his rabbit, knowing he wouldn't have to go TOO deep on the horse to win. We'll see, he'll go to the bottom this time. I'm guessing 105 beyer, -2 thorograph. Going be interesting for sure. Great show

I respect Andy Beyer for inventing speed figures and his other contributions; he does a fine job reading past results and betting based on numbers. But oddly, after all his decades at tracks, he has never developed an understanding of horses, or learned how to read them by watching them.

Sir. Webinar, Have You All Notice Since The Breeders Cup Juvenile Victory Of Fierceness Bob Baffert Haven’t Sent Another Of His Many Many Many Charges During The Kentucky Derby Prep Races Against Fierceness, This Alone Makes A Fierceness Believer, The One Time One Of Bob Baffert’s Big Boys Meet Fierceness That’s Muth He Was Totally Dust Out By Fierceness, And With That Victory Over Bob Baffert He Didn’t Send Another Charge To Test Fierceness Who’s The Return Of Flightline,,,,👑🇺🇸🇯🇲 Mr. KeenObserVatioN PhD,🇯🇲🇺🇸🏰

As far as pace is concerned, you forgot to mention Catalytic, Encino, West Saratoga, and Resilience. Fierceness will be COOKED.

Great show as usual, but as usual, Andy, you're too negative on the quality of these horses. It's not every year we're going to be given the chance to bet on an Affirmed or a Seattle Slew. Same as we're not going to given the chance to vote for an Abraham Lincoln in every election. We pick among okay horses, not great horses, and that's normal. BTW, is there any chance that the tracks are being maintained in a way that makes for slower races? I'm guessing that with horses breaking down more often that maybe they're making deeper tracks with more cushion. Would love to get your comments on this. Good luck everybody and have a great day!

Fierceness = Holy Bull. After Fierceness loses due to distance limitations in his bloodlines and bouncing, he will be interesting NEXT time in some sort of 7F to 8.5F race. Back in the day, Holy Bull rebounded from a disappointing Derby to win the Met Mile crushing a talented field.

You avoid kickback by going to the front. If Forever Young breaks half a step slow, he loses all chance.

The most interesting question in the whole discussion was glossed over. Free gave the stats on how few triple digit figs there are coming into the race this year (and recent years) compared to 20 years ago, but leaves it at that. The simple-minded conclusion was "horses are just slower now" and that was that. I find it hard to accept that "horses are just slower." The horse really hasn't changed much, evolutionarily speaking, in such a short time span. Anyone care to weigh in with a theory? I suspect many people will say it's because there are (allegedly) fewer drugs being pumped into horses these days. Is it possible that there has been some change in the mechanics of calculating the Beyer Speed Figs that is producing a trend of lower numbers? Raw times don't seem to be that different , so it's a bit of a mystery to me. This year, as in most past years, the winning time will be somewhere around 2:02 and change.....notwithstanding the annual protestations that they all suck. So to be more succinct in my question: the final raw time will probably be right in the average range. How, then , do we square that with a long term trend of lower speed figs?

Post 16 Fierceness actually

Sierra Leone’s times for the final 3/8’s are slow. No shot

Fierce won’t get the distance .. with the trip from post 17 that’s way too much to overcome.. a closer will win this race today

Rebel Romance in the distaff turf in BC Talked everyone off him, called him an imposter who dodged compoetition by hiding in Germany....

Mr. Beyer, Horses do not run figures. These figures are assigned and have been changed on occasions.

Not if the track is sealed which I do not think they will do that So if it's not the track is sloppy and choppy but they won't come from the clouds fierceness might bounce. If they do Sierra Leone smashes this field

My pick is MUTH

Who picked this horse? Nobody!!! 57:04

Sierra Leone is a lock,John velequez isn't riding bafferts horse,,stronghold ran 2nd to the fastest horse when besos won

Shouldn’t we expect a bounce after his last effort

I called it and Forever Young may not of won but he sure as shit ran better then the chalk even the 2nd place finisher who turned him sideways in the stretch..

IF IT RAINS THE #3 WITH BRIAN HERNANDEZ WILL WALTZ TO THE WIRE AND WIN IT.

Andy is pretty good doing what he knows, but he has not been much effective predicting KD winner in the last 25 years!

Fierceness cant lose ................LOL

Fierceness threw a clucker in the slop.sat morning track has some mud,should be good not fast. If the 2 speed rabbits ahead of him,throw up some mud,he may be bothered and not run to his talent.

49:50 "Fierceness ran "too fast" in the Florida Derby? Watch the last 1/8 mile sir......The horse was JOGGING all the way to the wire from there.....That's not "running too" fast.......that's just a REALLY fast horse....Hell Repole even said so. "Fastest horse I've ever owned".....

Mr. Webinar, Not Until These Japanese Start To Campaign Their Horses In The American Legs Of The Derby Preps To Get A Feel Of The American Horses And Tracks With Their Different Vacancies And The Riding Skills And Techniques Of The American Jockeys They Will Never Even The Chances Of Their Horses Having Them Meeting Horses Of A Total Different Nature And Speed, And Churchill Down Should Stop Using These Overseas Races As Qualifying Races Force The Owners And Trainers Of These Overseas Contenders To Compete In Only The American Legs Of The Derby Prep Races, Making It Much Easier For The American Punters To Dissect Their Splits And Overall Running Performance Documented By American Handicappers And The Many Racing Medias,,,,🏰🇺🇸🇯🇲 Mr. phD,🇯🇲🇺🇸🏰

Catching Freedom Too Slow!

Domestic Product had been buried behind horses and closing into slow paced races. So toss his figures. He easily could move up big time.

Forever Young is the real deal, thats all I care about..What a horse

You bet a horse with a large ass in this field and you will laugh all the way to the bank.

The UAE Derby gives too much Derby points to the winner.

Sloppy track, watch Just a Touch, maybe Catching Freedom.

Bob Baffert was cheating as a quarter horse trainer and was ‘accused’ multiple times over the years. Where there is smoke … I have ZERO sympathy for him. These two shouldn’t either. He’s an arrogant guy and a proven cheater.

How sad that we would rather see a faster race than protect the horses running. It's almost like we forget they are living creatures that feel pain.

Watch all the crap these guys say about Japan horses he s gonna win ,,I can t wait .. LFG Forever Young

YOUR PROGRAM SUCKS... I'M CHANGING THE CHANNEL.

The Kentucky Derby these past two years has been a dud because there's no Bob Baffert. I'll bet exacta box all European jockeys; 4, 7, 8,14, 18, 20.

T O Password will be ahead of Fierceness at 1st Call. GF