Kenzie Ziegler: No Closure, Just Getting Older

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Singer, dancer, and former reality star Kenzie Ziegler joins the Lautners to discuss navigating success and pressure from an incredibly young age. She shares the toll that reality TV took on her childhood and how it caused her to lose her passion for dance. Kenzie explains how she couldn't differentiate between reality and what was manufactured for the show, and shares the advice she would offer a production team tackling a reality show centered around children. She attributes her mental health struggles to the show, and shares with your hosts when she first discovered she was suffering from anxiety. She opens up about her relationship with social media, which she has navigated since the age of eight, and how she has grown to become more private, allowing less of the negativity to affect her. She also talks about her song Anatomy, her family's reaction to the deeply personal song, who she played it for first, and how cathartic the recording process was. The Lautners had such a great time with Kenzie, and look forward to signing those adoption papers! You can adopt a 19-year-old, right?!
00:00 Intro
03:20 Welcome Kenzie
05:10 Citrus Got Real
10:40 Growing up on reality tv
12:09 Losing her love of dance
13:55 Inability to differentiate between what was actually reality and what was manufactured for the show
15:29 Advice she would give if hired as a consultant for a reality show involving kids (remember that children are children)
19:00 Discovering her anxiety
21:30 Relationship with sister Maddie Ziegler
22:30 Navigating a large social media following from a young age
26:53 Her song Anatomy and relationship with her father
29:57 Her family’s reaction to the deeply personal song
31:40 Dating history and how therapeutic the writing room was to her
34:38 Lemon 11
43:06 Outro
Follow Kenzie and check out the music video for Anatomy below!
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@annastewart7139 8 ай бұрын

Gosh. Kenzie is just so sweet and down to earth. Just by watching this I can tell she’d be an incredible person to be around.

@kellyknowles236 8 ай бұрын

Not me trying to hold back tears at work hearing her talk about the song because I paused and listened to the song and then came back

@lisakafmw2673 8 ай бұрын

This!! I went and listened till halfway, and decided to just read the lyrics only lol I genuinely couldn’t, it hits too close home. I’ll revisit it in a week 😂

@enriqueolguin3601 8 ай бұрын

That’s awesome !! Her song was so real

@kris12896 3 ай бұрын

Same here

@user-jj1qk5zq7z 8 ай бұрын

Knowing from how much Kenzie has grown into a young woman,u can notice how much she matured and how she has dealt with these things.Loved this episode!

@kaitkat27 8 ай бұрын

The fact that mental health wasn’t a conversation for these young kids in the spotlight is absolutely insane. Bless Kenzie and how strong she is. As a person who developed anxiety that young I couldn’t imagine not having access to therapy and being open about my mental health

@asmith4328 3 ай бұрын

Think it’s general with all child stars her explaining from 6-12 no childhood sounds like jodi sweetin from full house and being lost afterwards

@mandy7131 2 ай бұрын

Right

@mandy7131 2 ай бұрын

Crazy how Once the show took off The producers got crazy greedy 😢😢😢 Poor girls All them .

@Fairytaleszz 8 ай бұрын

Please try to interview Maddie Ziegler as well! I really love seeing these sisters❤

@maxiesquibel1624 8 ай бұрын

I watched Dance Mom's from the beginning. I felt like Kenzie has grown up and matured in a positive way. I enjoyed this podcast. Thank you.

@emmaleemiklosovic5558 8 ай бұрын

i absolutely love this podcast. thank you all for being so willing to talk about such vulnerable topics and just being so REAL.

@amnabhutta1 8 ай бұрын

This makes me want to go to my friends and digest our feelings and lives together it’s so cool how one conversation can make a major chain of healing together ❤

@nicholasrobles3776 8 ай бұрын

So nice to see an interview with someone that has actually watched the show… I’m a huge fan ❤

@terryschultz9064 8 ай бұрын

Thank you Kenzie. I watched Dance Moms occasionally, until the abuse you girls experienced became so evident that I had to turn it off.. Abby was awful - she never seemed to realize the harm she caused, and just went on and on, always justifying her behavior. She was a bully, and you were victimized. I hope our expectations today ae very different. I'm so glad you've sought and benefitted from therapy.

@ElizaLou75 8 ай бұрын

Abby was dreadful, but that the production company egged it on and basically documented the emotional abuse with little thought of the kids emotional well-being is shocking.

@Abbyglitters 5 ай бұрын

At what point do we start to blame the parents that kept their kids in that environment for what seems like it may have been for the money fame and opportunity brought. No one seems to talk about that.

@hannajenyse7539 8 ай бұрын

Watching/listening to this podcast has gotten me through so much. Thank you for doing what you do and thank you to the guests for being so vulnerable in such a judgmental world.❤

@eileenbesser7831 8 ай бұрын

Poor Kenzie. Her mom kind of lived vicariously through the girls and I don’t think she could have left the show even if she wanted those first years

@ALT1308_ 8 ай бұрын

Her mom regrets the things she did, and MacKenzie and Maddie ziegler have forgiven them, so please leave them alone and let them be

@kyleemeg2171 8 ай бұрын

@@ALT1308_they’re not attacking anyone…. All they did was state their opinion. Stop being so god damn sensitive

@Izzyln 8 ай бұрын

@ALT1308_ regreting something doesn't change her past actions. No mom should put a child through all that for money, she destroyed her daughters childhood.

@samday2534 4 ай бұрын

@@Izzyln well Kenzie forgives her. That’s all that matters. Your opinion means nothing.

@Izzyln 4 ай бұрын

@samday2534 I never stated my opinion about her it's just common sense , NO MOM SHOULD PUT A CHILD THROUGH ALL THAT SUFFERING FOR MONEY. Yall need therapists, everything is an attack, and you get upset easily if someone says something you don't want to hear

@anastasiavanessa7100 8 ай бұрын

loveee seeing kenzie she’s so grown up and beautiful

@SophieKaye1 8 ай бұрын

I’m so in love with this episode, Kenzie is obvs an awesome girl and you guys just vibe I loved it

@Fett60 8 ай бұрын

When Taylor said she used to be a nurse and now she does... this. But then said she doesn't edit the podcast. That's exactly why we all want to marry a rich person. 😂

@someonee8250 7 ай бұрын

Idk how we all got teary eyed listening to anatomy, it’s such a girl code that almost every girl relates to, and love how it wasn’t overly complicated and or anything it was just a rant explaining what I remotely felt without knowing how to put it in words

@z.e.p.p.e.l.i.n 9 ай бұрын

Literally screamed when I saw this. Cant wait to watch!!

@lisha1229 8 ай бұрын

this podcast is so soothing. keep it up you guys, you’re providing a safe and relaxing space for many ♥️

@joycedominguez8997 8 ай бұрын

Yes but sometimes I can barely hear them. It's like they have a secret. Lol

@ivckrxs118 7 ай бұрын

@@joycedominguez8997Icl this made me laugh

@ThelmaLindorvaldsdottir-bg2tm 6 ай бұрын

I love how girl Tay and boy Tay how they are respectful and kind and have a heart of gold and there podcast is one my favorite podcast

@09morgpup 8 ай бұрын

I love dance moms & Kenzie & this is one of the best interviews I’ve seen of one of the girls. You asked great questions🩷

@user-su3im2es2k 8 ай бұрын

I love this so much Kenzie is one of my favorites. Next I would love to see Jules and Hayley Leblanc

@areyouapisces 8 ай бұрын

one of your best eps so far! i love this sm

@percygirl101 8 ай бұрын

My new favorite podcast! ❤ also this is so wholesome it’s absolutely what I needed today thank you guys for your content ❤

@Swiftie29 8 ай бұрын

I genuinely love this podcast so much it’s my favorite podcast your both so down to earth and genuine

@jaimierae6752 8 ай бұрын

Taylor lautner really asks THE best questions. good for him

@abbieprice3430 6 ай бұрын

Never thought I’d hear Taylor Lautner say he was a Dance Moms fan while Mackenzie was sitting across from him!

@estrellaalaniz3821 4 ай бұрын

She’s sooo kind hearted. I absolutely love her.

@melt2947 Ай бұрын

Literally remembering her empathy every time someone else was injured, or cried. She has a huge heart ❤️

@enilar2533 Ай бұрын

For me, the mother is responsible for the whole thing. She should have protected the children and prevented the catastrophe instead of exposing them to abusive situations for years. Not a single word is said about this. The children had no choice, the mothers did.

@lensbookcorner 8 ай бұрын

You know you're an adult when you realize that being home alone and doing things like a nice bath is the best thing in the world 😂 same here girl ❤❤

@DelaneyWalker 9 ай бұрын

I can’t wait for this one!

@sandramillette2506 8 ай бұрын

Love the podcast Soothing and relaxing

@poojaninanayakkara 8 ай бұрын

This was just amazing kenzie is so sweet and amazing love her so much and you guys are the best ❤

@paulagallinatti880 8 ай бұрын

Loved it. I'm big fan of the Zieglers and loved how you treated every topic with respect and empathy. Kenzie is amazing. I would love you to bring Maddie to see her side of the story as well. It was lovely to see and listen to the three of you💕

@summerspicer6153 7 ай бұрын

So proud of you Kenzie 💕

@vampirebl4des 8 ай бұрын

loved finding more out about kenzie

@alilwildwithcat167 8 ай бұрын

They should’ve had them in therapy since the beginning. Having someone help sort through what is real and what is not could’ve been so helpful😢

@pamr2546 6 ай бұрын

It is all their MOTHERS fault. They put them on the show. Allowed it all to happen. Sat there and watched. Cashed those checks!!

@yacobeinauan9533 2 ай бұрын

The moms were under an almost unbreakbable contract. It took Sia to set Melissa, Maddie and Kenzie free. If any of the moms would leave Abby demanded 100s of thousands of dollars and would blackball them in the dancing industry. Stop blaming them. You have no idea how it affected the OG moms sitting there and seeing their child suffer and they couldn’t do anything. They have spoken about it multiple times that that was the situation so for you to sit here and make them look like awful mothers is disgusting. Kelly’s marriage went down the drain because of the show. F you.

@just-a-generic-username Ай бұрын

I think it's odd that you're only holding the mothers responsible without acknowledging that the girls have fathers too.

@enilar2533 Ай бұрын

That's how I see it too. The production company acted more than irresponsibly, but the mothers supported the whole thing and left their children there. To what extent the fathers are even present and authorised to act when the mother has custody is questionable. But yes, they shouldn't have neglected their care either, that's true.

@pamr2546 29 күн бұрын

@@just-a-generic-username - you’re right! All those fathers are 100% at fault too!

@user-tv5rr2ce3i 5 ай бұрын

I love that maddie and makinze both say totally so much in interviews love you guys ❤

@BoomMegatron 8 ай бұрын

Such a great conversation.

@Starbuxlvr1313 8 ай бұрын

Love Kenzie!❤❤

@sierravreacts 8 ай бұрын

kenzie was always my fav

@balladofahomeschooledboy0514 8 ай бұрын

have you thought of inviting jennette mccurdy for an interview?

@zodiacmoonchild_meg 8 ай бұрын

Yes!!! That would be so good 🖤

@z.e.p.p.e.l.i.n 8 ай бұрын

dude that’s such a good idea

@melt2947 Ай бұрын

Kenzie, we love you. Sending hugs to you ❤❤❤

@constanzalenza1765 8 ай бұрын

OMG you guys are so nice ❤ and kenzie is the best

@emilymeyers6069 8 ай бұрын

Stoppp I love hee. I swear you get the best people to come onto the podcast

@rachelzurkowski7715 8 ай бұрын

Heated mattress pads are a lifesaver for when a spouse sleeps cold and one sleeps hot. The mattress pads are divided down the center so one spouse can crank the heat and the other stays cold.

@lisanancollas2330 4 ай бұрын

Both of you are great interviewers.

@melektoledo 8 ай бұрын

I love that you had Kenzie on! 🥺🩷 You guys should also have Maddie, Chloe, or Nia on the pod!!

@Michele-op7kv 8 ай бұрын

Tay & Taylor your voices are sooooo calming and soothing

@humongousobesity 2 ай бұрын

Fr I almost fell asleep

@mizzmimi3092 Ай бұрын

First time watching and that was my first thought

@mandy7131 2 ай бұрын

Its so true Poor girls man .

@amslj 8 ай бұрын

I loveee kenzie

@amslj 8 ай бұрын

wait and i love this you guys are so sweet

@SingBreatheLive 7 ай бұрын

I love hee for being so real

@viriserralde 5 ай бұрын

I’m new here, and I don’t listen to podcast and I love this so much. 😇

@user-bv4sg1ui3n 3 ай бұрын

Such a beautiful girl.❤

@emilycross8994 Ай бұрын

Is there a reason the hosts are so whispery/soft-spoken? No shade, but it felt more like ASMR than a podcast… Their voices are almost *too* calming like borderline boring.

@caitlinmaney5001 8 ай бұрын

i love kenzie

@RemySetGo 8 ай бұрын

My name is Remy and I didn't do the deep breath at the beginning. Imagine my shock when I got called out by name 😅

@FabianneGutierrezHallmann 17 күн бұрын

Omg I loved this episode. Can you please bring some other girls form Dance Moms? Such as Chloe Lukasiak or Brooke and Paige Hyland?

@andreapraveen5713 2 ай бұрын

this is a crossover i did not expect...

@DANiCL4WS 2 ай бұрын

i'm likeeee "is that jacob" lmao

@switchitupgaming3863 5 ай бұрын

My 7 year old and myself decided to watch all the twilight movies because he's never seen them . My son just walked in the room while I was watching the podcast and goes "He looks like the wolf guy from the vampire movie." I told him "It is the same guy" My son goes "What?! So he's not really a wolf?" Hahaha nice pod guys :)

@Scarlettdancer712 25 күн бұрын

I love her new song and my parents got divorced when I was 2 years old😢😢😢

@meganfc7094 8 ай бұрын

Love this podcast and series! Sort of confused why tay says kenzie is another generation, she's just 7 years older so defo gen z both of them🤣

@CycleBreakerDragon 5 ай бұрын

Yep, went to her music video and played it 2x. 😢

@jesstwilight1234 5 ай бұрын

I need a moment for the pillowcase ad When she says he’s always warm And his heat radiates when she sleeps next to him And my first thought is Jacob in Eclipse. 26:12

@Zosterx3 Ай бұрын

Taylor(wifey Taylor) you should totally do the voice overs for sleep paralysis stuff 😍 you have THAT voice 🫶🏽

@carlypalmer4848 8 ай бұрын

Taylor was as amused by that breathe in the opening as Remi was...i feel like this episode was one of those "we weren't arguing 10 minutes ago....who was arguing 10 minutes ago?!" Moments.

@enzo119 8 ай бұрын

Nice interview. Will you invite Maddie too?

@frances840 8 ай бұрын

❤❤❤

@christines2004 5 ай бұрын

This is the first episode I’ve watched and the two Taylor’s vibes in the beginning seemed weird. It felt like when I was younger and walked into the room with my parents who just finished arguing.

@jayline1087 4 ай бұрын

feel this in my soul

@lilymacias1078 8 ай бұрын

Yall should interview Joshua Bassett!

@cindicleee 8 ай бұрын

💕💕💕

@alyssatrobaugh2638 7 ай бұрын

Does anyone else find it kind of funny that McKenzie name was Talylor but then changed

@thaismsassis 8 ай бұрын

Am I the only one confused by T.Lautner saying he has been a fan of Kenzie since he was a child himself? I mean, isn't he like 10 years older than her? Hahaha

@marissakillingsworth2385 8 ай бұрын

Same here, the math isnt mathing. Kind of strange lol

@ashac7183 7 ай бұрын

He probably started watching when it premiered and he was 19, but didn’t remember exactly what age he was at the time since it was long ago.

@MsMckenzie2011 7 ай бұрын

Right!? I’m 25 and I know that kenzie is younger than me by 6 years but I remember Taylor Lautner being so much older than me😂(also 6 years) I remember watching dance moms as a young teen so I was like huuuuh???? Taylor is 12 years older than kenzie🤣

@ErikaWright-hc4gb 2 ай бұрын

I swear I was just thinking the same thing… I was like the math ain’t mathing

@kxnormk 2 ай бұрын

Adults watched the show too

@Llymnn 8 ай бұрын

Is so Sad imagine Lost your love for something that you love... P.s: i'm forma Brazil, so my english is basic

@noreneKlinger 8 ай бұрын

Goodmorning

@officialJOY1229 8 ай бұрын

🙏🌍🙏

@yokai420 5 ай бұрын

they definitely should’ve always had a mental coach. that’s so sad 💔

@Kittylolll12277 7 ай бұрын

At 9:58 does Tay realize she's part of the same generation as Kenzie? Lol

@melissagarcia8685 8 ай бұрын

As a dance mom fan i can see why these girls needed therapy loved this episode!

@ninna7 5 ай бұрын

I felt so bad for Kenzie her own mom was horrible towards her. Always favoring Maddie

@lauraleoxx2499 8 ай бұрын

I feel like every time the guy speaks the girl next to him always has something negative to say about what he has to say

@richardcarden4161 8 ай бұрын

It is a great loss because Mackenzie was a great dancer

@milagro75 8 ай бұрын

Taylor gets warm at night...*thinking* - don't say it, don't say it... :P

@yokai420 5 ай бұрын

i love all the dance mom girls but i h8 abby fr

@mandy7131 2 ай бұрын

I always wondered if the sisters Still get along Or cut ties

@junjay6092 8 ай бұрын

taylor launter talks so quiet i can barely hear him with my volume all the way up and you guys should make better eye contact with the guests lol

@auntkissy520 5 ай бұрын

Great interview! Maddie is a true gem! Just a word of constructive criticism, watch your video and count the number of times you say the "filler" word, "like". Once you are aware you can work on lessoning the filler word.

@samday2534 4 ай бұрын

This is McKenzie

@suebuchert7797 4 ай бұрын

@@samday2534I guess she was too preoccupied with getting her " constructive" criticism typed in to realize.😂

@CosmicKindness 7 ай бұрын

Why does girl Taylor need to cut down original T.Lautner because he mentioned he used to dance a lil to be a part of the comvo and show interest ..n she has to go with the " he can't count an 8 count!"

@shamikegordon993 7 ай бұрын

Count how many times Mrs. Taylor says “like”😭…

@keetasmit 6 ай бұрын

ikr

@joycedominguez8997 8 ай бұрын

I honestly did not know that they teach dance in colleges.

@EssentiallyMe-cz5yo 4 ай бұрын

Made me sad too, those poor babies, and yet all of us commenting on this is going to encourage it :o( all the stuff youtube censors but this is ok to post.... Demented world we live in anymore