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Very much agreed.

That Bron playoff run thou.....dude took literal scrubs to the finals and that game 1 is the best game bron ever played. Everybody with hands and legs was guarding Bron and he still dropped 50! KD will be the precum to Brons legacy

Realistically Hes not winning a chip in okc, theres no way his legacy is better

What accomplishments?

I think him leaving doesnt get talked about enough like he could of stayed an won at least one or two more

@@Cooldude_987 He very well could have, but I do believe he told the truth as to why he left the Warriors, especially as Draymond Green made a fool of himself and had the Jordan Poole assault that the Warriors covered his ass for and gave Jordan Poole a hush contract last year. They really proved KD's point when he said the organization will just sweep shit under the rug, in reference to Draymond running KD out of town and being a bad teammate to the guy he wanted to come to GS in the first place. I think that aspect really should get talked about more often.

Nah give lebron the softest players he's the reason why superteams are a thing, he backstabbed and betrayed the cavs by joining the heat with Chris bosh and Dwayne wade

@@francoisnaufahu30 tbh lebron wouldn't have done what KD did, join the team that beat him

@@theonlygoodonehere2259 LeBron literally recruited Kawhi to LA after he won FMVP in 2019 & KD as well. If LeBron never won a championship, there's no telling what he would've done because it's clear that he's more than willing to play with all the best players available to give himself the best odds at winning.

Because they only wanted lebron to benefit from it

​@@luffyuzumaki6354nah I'm happy kd left okc Spurs Boston were available Joining specifically the team that whooped your ass that's a bitch move Soft cupcake

I mean Lebron also got/gets a lot of hate for his move to Miami. Also, context matters. Durant joined a 73 win team that had just beaten him in the conference finals. Lebron didn't do that.

@@yo7885 ...LeBronze didn't have to, he already was in a much weaker Eastern Conference, that's why he made it to 9+ consecutive NBA finals.

The difference is LeBron comes back to his OG team and wins them a chip, also he's been in the finals from 2007,2011-2018,2020, LeBron been dominant in east led 3 teams into finals and a championship ,KD been in finals for 2012,2017,2018,2019 and he didn't even try to comeback in OKC to win a ring, he's also saying some stuff which affects his legacy

That was one of the reasons I wanted the Warriors to win that championship. It would prove the validity of that core Warriors team, get Curry a FMVP, and essentially be the ultimate middle finger to KD.

The Celtics started it. Dream had very rocky relationship with the Rockets demanding trades several times before they won their titles.

Blame the cavs for that incompetent roster lebron had to deal with for 7 years😂

@@yandhijpeg exactly. Not everyone is built like Hakeem.

I dunno man… there’s a difference between going and joining Wade and Bosh vs going to join at 72 win team that beat you in the playoffs last year.

@@rorank Both equate to the same thing as far as wanting to play on another champions team in your conference with multiple allstars. When Miami beat the Celtics and Ray Allen left the Celtics to play with the team that he just lost to, it resulted in him being an instrumental part of Miami’s championship. We’ve seen players doing this going all the way back to Silky.

But but brons move was soo weak KD just did what was best for him (sarcasm) the KD defense for this is wild but they tear down bron for Miami without hesitation

Jordan fans would've dropped dead if not for KD. Skip Bayless first and then Skap Attack. Without it James pulls off another back to back or first threepeat. Ties Jordan on chips and fmvp and also gets the scoring record. Argument is long over. Ninjas who are 20k deep in Jordan shoes have an identity crisis and The Last Dance becomes 3 documentaries.

KD just did what Lebron did but he did it better 😂 The era of collusion 😆

@@andrewcook1246lmao Warriors were smacking lebron even without KD bro

@@andrewcook1246Can you just stop already? I already destroyed you on the last one. Still lying to yourself huh? Still can’t accept reality huh? Now you’ve got to rewrite history and imagine some championships for LeBron!?😂 If LeBron was “that guy,” he would’ve won when he had the chance. I‘ll bet you he wishes he had a Time Machine too.

Durant was fully aware when he did it of the likely blowback from signing with the Warriors/

Clippers would’ve been perfect

Or Rockets imo, prime James Harden and Prime KD would have lethal duo and could’ve won a championship. Hell even the Trail Blazers would’ve worked as well

Clippers, Celtics (with a smart rebuild), Rockets. Good shot with all of those teams, I mean even staying with the Thunder was still a viable option but I do think they had peaked already.

​@@navonmyhand7999 I say the Celtics because KD could have maybe gotten it done with Al Horford and IT at his peak. But rebuilding around him is a cool idea I didn't think of :O

Nah...fault the move. It was a weak move. He's a great player but overall a loser. Still credit Curry for the chips. But nah, KD a bish.

Curry wasn't fully validated until his last ring.

Don't forget the LeBron lead Heat inspired such moves and the 08 Celtics inspired Bron's 2010 off-season move

I have to still give curry credit because he was still the most valuable player on the team

@@AwesomeCoolParker the audacity 😂😂😂😂 the internet is a wild place

Why does that matter, tho? Over 50% of the overall game is strictly for entertainment. Only around 35% of the ACTUAL game is winning championships n in the name of entertainment I think thats FINE. Ball doesnt have to be this overly competitive game ALL THE TIME. For 2-3 years, players should be ALLOWED to ( if they’ve already dedicated HIGHLY EFFECTIVE YEARS to an organization ) move around and have fun with the game of basketball. Its not like they were unbeatable because they lost in their best season 😂 they were just a really good roster and frankly love it or hate it, it was fun to watch as a consumer.

@@relevancy1123 no it was not when you know the outcome of the Finals series already due to one team being overly stacked. Competitive basketball is entertainment and visually appealing 😂😂😂

Find me a legend who thought any of Lebron's moves were a good idea. They all laugh at him. Maybe LA, but that wasn't even a basketball move, he went there to set up his post career ambitions.

but clearly you didn't know the result of the finals series cause nobody in the world expected the cavaliers to beat the 73-9 warriors son. what are you even talking about people were saying that team was better than 95-96 bulls, the greatest basketball team to ever play lmao. so what you're saying don't even add up. n then they lost to Tornto. They were never an unbeatable team. Nor an unstoppable team. They were just good for two seasons. LMAO@@michaelbarnes2126

@@relevancy1123 🤣🤣🤣 where the percentages come from?

Respect 🙏

2016

​@@aidelai4098never forget....Not 4 not 5 not 6 😂😂😂

@@daleclark4750 like that changes anything he won championships and that's it

It’s amazing how many people babbling about James when the video is about Durant 😂 The obsession is real

​@@daleclark4750not 7😂😂😂😂

I thought it was Draymond that recruited him

​@@jasonquinlan1733so much for thinking

That's a sorry excuse. The league's competition should've took it upon themselves to step their game up. All I saw was a bunch of weak ass whining and complaining about the Warriors from players that had a chance to bring that level of competition needed.

​@@Matthew-uq4hu Complaining and whining never solved anything, but the way I see it, those two championships were inevitable. We're talking about the best team in the league getting an MVP caliber player as a luxury piece. No amount of stepping up anyones game was going to stop the warriors from rawdogging the league unless you turned this into a video game and entered in cheat codes. In 2019 Kawhi Leonard was an amazing player and the raptors as a whole were a great team, but injuries definitely played a part in them winning that ring against Golden State. That's just how I see things though.

@@bigjayiv the 2018 Rockets had them on the ropes. The 2017 Spurs could've probably given them a very good run for their money had Kawhi not gotten hurt.

Because u said so ?

@@MeloRiley-gb5pz Because it was absolutely ridiculous that a great player join a great team and get a easy championship. Again, ridiculous. Complete lack of a competior.

I don't know, 2016 was wide open, kevin love was injured with a concussion during that run, and was shown to be unreliable

not gonna lie, what you said was bullshit lol. Bron didn't go to the Celtics, Dallas or the Spurs after they bested him. KD betrayed his competitive spirit, and friends for the team that beat him. Bron got beat by better teams, and decided to try to get EVEN by joining his best friend a declining AllStar with a mid level all star being Bosh. KD joined THE GREATEST TEAM OF ALL TIME .. im not even the biggest Bron fan but they stuff y'all say be so bad and biased as hell that it's annoying 😑

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​@@jrue7639warriors without was not the best all time team lmao they dident even win it all that year when they beat the record and winning the chip is what matters

this a bs comparison. lebron didnt join a team that beat or a team that was already well constructed or had one of the 2 best players in the world. he didnt join the celtics or lakers or someone like that. he went to a heat team that was an 8 seed the year before he came and only won 43 games or something. on top of that lebron had no help in cleveland. kd had an amazing squad in okc, choked a 3-1 lead, and then joined golden state the team that he lost too that had the second best player in the world. in 2011 dwade was like top 7 but def not 3 and maybe top 5 if even. kd was already with a top 5 players in the league in okc when he was w russell westbrook, but needed to join the number 2 guy in the league in steph. weak af

Never put Lebron and KD in the same conversation again casual, the HEAT were a 47 wins team in 2010, Wade wasn’t a 2x reigning MVP like Curry, and the Warriors already had a Big 3 with Curry, the best shooter and off ball player ever, Draymond, the best Defender of this generation and Klay, the 2nd best shooter ever, so they already had a system, a system built around Curry, and they already had an amazing chemistry they were a 73 wins team ! Lebron FORMED a Big 3, KD JOINED a Big 3 and so he formed a big 4, he didn’t have to do anything to fit with this team while Lebron, Wade and Bosh only played together with the USA team, they had to build that team, and Wade was a very bad 3 pts shooter, so he wasn’t the best fit for Lebron, they literally had to put Lebron at the 4 and Bosh at the 5 for better spacing, that’s why Bron was so big in Miami. So it’s completely different, the Warriors without KD could beat the CAVS, and probably any team in the history of the NBA, the HEAT without Lebron would be a 55 wins and ECF team at best, especially after 2012 when Wade and even Bosh on a lesser extend were out of their prime and injury prone. What KD did in 2017 when he was the 2nd or 3rd best player in the world would be like if Shaq joined the BULLS in 96 after their 72 wins season, at the time Shaq was the 2nd or 3rd best player in the world after MJ and Karl Malone maybe. Or it would be like if Lebron joined the Spurs in 2007 or 2014, or the Celtics in 2008 after losing to them, and this wouldn’t even be as bad as what KD did because the 2016 Warriors were in another level than these teams even if they lost in the Finals. But just imagine Lebron with a prime Duncan, Parker, Ginobili and Coach Pop, or with a prime Kawhi, Parker and an old but still Top 10 player in the league Duncan, and an old but still great player Ginobili.. Or imagine Lebron with a prime KG, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen and Rondo … This would be similar to what KD did, but Lebron joining Wade and Bosh is similar to KD joining Harden and Kyrie, or KD joining Booker and Beal/Ayton, and i still think that these teams are more talented and that their players fit together better than the Lebron HEAT. And don’t even talk about the Lebron, Kyrie and Love CAVS, because they don’t fit any description of a superteam, Kyrie and Love weren’t Top 10 players and they never had a dominant regular season or post season run, it was similar to Jokic, Murray and MPJ or Aaron Gordon+ other great role players or Kawhi, Siakam, Kyle Lowry and great role players like Marc Gasol, Danny Green, FVV or Ibaka. This season Jamal Murray was the 1st player ever to average 30+pts on 50/40/90 split in the WCF, imagine having a 2nd option averaging 33ppg like prime Steph Curry, this was Murray in the ECF, and then Jamal was the only player ever to average 20+ppg and 10+ assists in the Finals with Lebron, MJ and Magic, but for some reason he is underated, but the numbers don’t lie Murray is just as good if not better than Kyrie, this same Murray dropped 2 50pts game in the same playoffs serie against Utah in 2020, only player ever to do that too, Murray is better than Kyrie, and MPJ or Aaron Gordon were just as good as K.Love, Aaron Gordon averaged 13.3 ppg on 58% Ts while playing elite defense on KAT, Ant, KD, Booker, Lebron and AD, and MPJ averaged 13.4ppg and 8.1 rebounds on 54% Ts while playing great defense with his 6’10 frame … And K.Love averaged 14.7ppg and 8.8 rebounds on 53% Ts in 2016 playoffs run, so very similar numbers and impact as AG and MPJ, but just because he was the 1st option on a bad team and had better stats when he was younger people think he was a superstar lol, that’s like saying Wiggins was a superstar on the Wolves because he averaged 23ppg and played elite defense .. K.Love was never that guy, reason why in his 16 years career, he only made the playoffs 5 times lol, 4 with Lebron and once with Jimmy this year 🤷🏾‍♂️

True. The slight difference is that Miami was not a contender, the addition of LBJ is what made them a contender. GSW was a champion before KD and were still the favorite despite losing in 2016.

Trying to put those moves in the same sentence is adorable little bro💀extremely pathetic as well ngl😂

@@ripperzbyszko3322 if they didn’t ruin their legacy - why are they always crying in the media for respect - Jordan isn’t doing that. It’s LeBron and KD - THEY are telling you they are insecure about their legacies. Also I like them both. This is what LeBron fans do - they try to gaslight that Jordan isn’t as good or say “you don’t like LeBron so he isn’t the goat”. It’s not just me saying it ruined their legacies - it’s NBA legends saying it - they indirectly tell you because it’s why they have to cry “I should be higher ranked”. No one who is the goat has to tell people they are. There is no way you can cut up and repackage LeBron and KD’s career to make it better than Jordan or Kobe or Kareem. People try but their arguments crumble the second they have to defend them and it becomes “Jordan was a bad owner” - and? LeBron thought Westbrook would fit with him…and couldn’t make it work. Jordan didn’t lose 3 games in a row from 1990-1998. Just stop. I do like LeBron and KD. They are both great players. I don’t like that they took massive short cuts and accomplished much less while doing it and now are trying to gaslight people they should be ranked ahead of guys who accomplished more with less help and not constantly running from challenges. None of these guys are my personal favorite player. My favorite player is Allen Iverson. I don’t cry he should be ranked higher cause I am not a liar and not insecure. Also all these guys made lots of money. Are you a fan or a groupie? If they didn’t care - they wouldn’t be constantly complaining about it - LeBron wouldn’t be paying people in the media through Klutch sports to make ridiculous takes pushing his “goat” case. It’s pathetic. Why don’t you try to actually make an argument for LeBron or KD - you said they have a lot of money like it’s your money like since they are rich they are above it lmao! First they talk about it like I said - also, what kind of fan comparing sports players says one is great cause they made more money? That’s how the women who Zion Williams sleeps with think. Maybe that’s what you are worried about.

@@seph8529 it’s funny when somebody says something puts 😆 as if they’re actually saying something intelligent and then nobody likes anything that they say because they’re a clown you really school this boy who is talking to you when his little dumb ass

@@seph8529 ill make an argument

@@seph8529 ill break down a few points and provide my own opinion, The Superteam Era: It's important to remember that while LeBron did join forces with other stars in Miami, the concept of consolidating talent isn't new. Legends like Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, and even Michael Jordan played alongside multiple Hall of Famers. LeBron's move to Miami can be seen as a modern player's answer to front office decisions; instead of executives forming teams, players took that power into their own hands. Championships & Legacies: LeBron's legacy isn't solely defined by his rings. His all-around game, leadership, longevity, and consistency make him one of the all-time greats. Not winning a title every year doesn't diminish his impact or accomplishments. Dynasty Argument: Every team LeBron has joined became an instant contender. His influence on the game, both on and off the court, is undeniable. The Miami Heat weren't a dynasty before LeBron, and his return to Cleveland turned the Cavaliers from a lottery team to NBA champions. Media & Respect: Michael Jordan's era had a different media landscape. While it's true that Jordan didn't publicly demand respect, he was known for creating imagined slights to fuel his competitive fire. LeBron's interactions with the media reflect today's digital age, where every statement can be amplified on social media platforms. Comparing Legacies: Pitting LeBron against Jordan or any other legend overlooks the unique challenges each faced. Every era has its hurdles, and LeBron's dominance in an age of player empowerment, advanced sports science, and high-level competition across teams speaks volumes about his greatness. Challenges: It's a misconception that LeBron avoids challenges. He faced super teams in the Spurs and the Warriors, led a Cavaliers team to a championship against a 73-win Warriors squad, and continues to compete at an elite level despite being in the league for nearly two decades. Monetary Arguments: Athletes today, LeBron included, have more avenues for income due to the rise of personal branding and digital platforms. LeBron's off-the-court ventures should be celebrated, not used to diminish his basketball legacy. The idea that he pays the media for positive coverage remains a speculative claim without substantial evidence. GOAT Debate: The 'Greatest of All Time' debate is inherently subjective. Arguments can be made for several players, based on varying criteria. LeBron's continuous comparison to past legends is a testament to his influence and skill in the game.

Steph is buu hurt by Lebron's success. Look at the length of that message

True

Easily.

That’s karma cause 10 years earlier the spurs sent Robert Horry to knock Steve Nash into the scorer’s table

They still won without him though. He was THAT DUDE because defenses couldn't focus him

Serious? Imagine being on a team with Klay and Steph in their primes, two of the best shooters in the league. They space the floor wide open, and you can take your shot wherever you want it. That was just ridiculously easy.

The celtics built their team through trades and these guys were all 30+ Lebron was the first Superstar in his prime who teamed up with two other superstars in their prime without any trades. He basically left the cavs in shambles. So yes Lebron started it.

So any team that beats LeBron is responsible for creating the monster of super team building?

​@@alberteinstein9591kg had a no trade clause so he could have prevented it if he wanted, the Celtics started it sorry not sorry, ik you prolly can't understand that though with LeBron always on your mind💀😂😂

@@xxac3zn8zxx87 "rent free" gotta be the most overused response to someone criticizing lebron. Just cause I've seen a comment I didn't agree with and voiced my opinion doesn't mean Lebrons on my mind all day😂 Not pulling the no trade clause when being traded into a better situation at 31 years old is not the same as teaming up with two other superstars in their mid 20s.

Drexler, Barkley, Shaq. Do you think MJ would have stayed if no Pippen, no Phil Jackson teach him how to win?

@@lenzoltanhell nah Jordan was joining the knicks if they didn’t build correctly

When did LeBron join the Celtics?

The Cavs team never lost to the Heat to be fair they lost to the Celtics every year. If LBJ joined the Celtics I would call a spade a spade but he joined Dwayne Wade and a weak Heat team at the time. Lebron and Chris Bosh who were both signed from other teams and the Heat were not dominant the year prior at all so its not that much of a comparison. The Heat Super Team was formed to compete with the Celtics and the Spurs of that Era so again Lebron did not start the super team era. I am not a Lebron fan BTW although he is the greatest player the NBA has ever seen when he came back to Cleveland and won a championship against a 73 win Warrior squad with a non Super Team down 3-1 in the finals.

@@life0093😂😂😂😂 that’d be legit what KD did I gotta use this for real for this argument

@@shender78facts mfs act like the Celtics didn’t just put 3 all star caliber players on their team first even before then the Rodman Jordan and Scottie bulls these type of teams have been around way before bron he just made player movement more mainline

look at lebrons team before he left. if u want to blame something, blame clevelands front office

it definitely messed up his legacy. he took the easy move out

@@getabuck If you’re going to say he took the easy way out you have to say the same thing about LeBron

​@@puncho8799joining a 47-35 team that lost in the 1st rd to Boston in five games is not the same thing as KD SINGLE HANDILY RUINING THE NBA BY JOINING A 73-9 team that he helped OKC PURPOSELY CHOKE A 3+1 lead to in the wcf when he could've went to any team that he wanted to.

@@michaelkirschner6009 People only say KD ruined the NBA because he stopped LeBron from getting more championships so I’m happy he did what he did, and once he realizes he shouldn’t care what the media says or fans say, he will be a lot more happier with his self and career

Your weird

I think it's time for them just to give a participation Trophy and not a championship trophy because people don't care how easy you make it to get the championship anymore

@@jameshill9579 that's one way of looking at it. Another way could be that these players that complain about it could've just worked their asses off to beat the Warriors

How many allstar games ayton made in 5 seasons? 0

Still has wdym

@@isaacsgamingandtechnologyc130 you say this after the playoffs this year has had maybe 2 marginally exciting games.

Why not? Barnes had just had a horrible finals and was asking for money the Warriors didn’t want to pay him and he eventually signed with the Mavs. Open roster spot at the 3. KD was a free agent at the same time. Damn, he’s a 3. What team wouldn’t try to sign him if they could?

@@cycleoflife565 that's my point. The Warriors were smart in trying to get him. The Spurs had just won 67 games and still had Kawhi and still in prime LaMarcus Aldridge and they recruited him lol.

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KD is a coward and ruined the NBA.

Joining a 47-35 team that lost in the 1st rd to Boston in five games is not the same thing as KD SINGLE HANDILY RUINING THE NBA BY JOINING A 73-9 team that he helped OKC PURPOSELY CHOKE a 3-1 lead to in the wcf when he could've been on any team he wanted to

The difference is KD doesn't have minions in the media to shape the narrative of his career. Instead, he spends all his time on social media using fake accounts lol. Seriously, you can't make this stuff up. This era was the weirdest era of basketball; I'm glad it's coming to a close & returning to some level of normalcy.

I lost brain cells readings this

@@yandhijpeg I guess you’re a vegetable now

Bro bron had to deal with an awfull cavs team that he dragged to the finals once and got mauled by the spurs. His front office also did jackshit for him. Then the celtics form a super team and his chances to go to the finals are basically gone. It was basically impossible to win no matter how hard he tried since bball is a 5 man game. I personally respect his decision to go to the heat. Superstars like kobe and mj were also about to leave their teams till their front office helped them. That aint the case with bron. Imagine kobe or mj sitting with a god awfull roster for 7 years and a bad fromt office. Impossible. They would have left or taken drastic measures to improve the roster.

Curry is lame too. Also draymond is a clown for running kd off.

Cupsnake

Joining a 47-35 team that lost in the 1st rd to Boston isn't the same thing as KD SINGLE HANDIDLY RUINING THE LEAGUE BY JOINING A 73-9 team that he helped OKC choke a 3-1 lead to in the WCF.

@@michaelkirschner6009 you’re a typical LeBronze fan that uses stats with no context. LEBRONZE AND KD DID THE SAME THING. Wade was a Finals MVP, a top 5 player, and both him and Bosh made multiple Olympics and all stars. And then you’re gonna add the best player in the league- in their peak prime in age. THAT is a super team, playing in that WEAK Leastern conference. Don’t say LeBronze was different. At least KD had to go through that much tougher western conference.

@@derrrick7759 and you're the typical casual fan who don't know shit about basketball. Bron's move isn't okay either but the difference here is Miami before Bron in 2010 is Wade and a bunch of role players that isn't even good. Bron team up with wade and bosh and build a team around them. KD joined an already established team. FYI in 2012-2014 even if Miami is in West they would still beat those teams. The Mavs at this point is nowhere near their 2011 run. Western conference teams like the Grizzlies, Clippers, Rockets, are mid, they had no chance on beating the Heat. Spurs and Thunder are the ones capable of being competitive with Miami but they can still beat them so saying they are on "WEAK" eastern conference as your point is just as stupid as you.

2016

@@aidelai4098 ???

Empty how is Lebron kyrie and love not great players so when u say dumb shit like that it means u think those guys are trash fool cause that’s who he had to beat to get those rings not just anybody stop the Bs just cause he cooked Lebron and made it look easy doesn’t mean it was easy Nigga period

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Lmao I mean the team was smooth but as an overall fan watching a wasted 82 game season to see the team anyone in the world would’ve pick to win it all year after year was not exciting whatsoever to me

@@Frosty1026 thanks for your opinion