Kevin Feige's New Plan To Fix The MCU Before Secret Wars...

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The Den of Nerds

The Den of Nerds

Жыл бұрын

Marvel fans, we have some huge updates about Kevin Feige's plan to fix the MCU before Avengers Secret Wars! It isn't a secret that Marvel Studios is going through a rough patch, but how are they going to fix it? Why should we, the fans, believe that Kevin Feige will be able to fix the shows and movies and get us excited about the Avengers as we move towards Secret Wars? We're breaking it alllllllll down!
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@jaredjamesimages
@jaredjamesimages Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure how other people feel but I feel the Russo’s were super important for the quality of a lot of those movies. Winter soldier Civil War infinity war endgame all such great movies. I’m hoping they have them in their back pocket for secret wars.
@Rar830
@Rar830 Жыл бұрын
I've hard that Feige took credit for all the stuff the Russo's and others did, but I have no idea if its true, since its all just rumors.
@akzel24
@akzel24 Жыл бұрын
mehh russo made the avengers boring...i still like the avengers 1 and 2 and that what makes u love the avengers right? just be true on urself once.. are u satisfied how they collected the infi stones and the solution they give to it? im pretty sure no...specially all these fight scenes only came 1/4 of the time i spent my ass in the cinema..avengers 3 and 4 is good but if u say godly then i disagree..i still love how they did avangers 1 and 2 without a boring scene..lots of action but never forget the narration.. its a masterpiece for me.. i can see my superheroes saving people unlike 3 and 4.. all happened in a heavily cgi places .
@MademoiselleRed1390
@MademoiselleRed1390 Жыл бұрын
@@akzel24 Avengers 2? I'm pretty sure AoU was the most devisive Avengers film of them all. Also, you are talking about the Avengers movies only ignoring their work on Captain America, especially when Civil War was almost a pseudo Avengers Movie. I don't know if I would call the Russos the best or infallible, but I think you are selling them down short AND act like the Whedon era was perfect. Both have their pros and cons,
@DekkarJr
@DekkarJr Жыл бұрын
Winter Soldier is one of my fav mcu movies. idk why i just rememeber it being a lot of high quality action. Including mma champion George St Pierre vs Capt :D
@Yupstate845
@Yupstate845 Жыл бұрын
James Gunn and Ryan Coogler would like a word.
@dragon2067
@dragon2067 Жыл бұрын
I'm cautiously optimistic. I think the problems started when they amped up the number of projects they were creating. Kevin wasn't able to focus on each project and that is where things fell apart. I think now that they are slowing down a little where he can truly focus on each project, they can right the ship and get back to the quality we have come to expect.
@BlueBrixProductions
@BlueBrixProductions Жыл бұрын
Cautiously optimistic Indeed. You talk like Obi Wa n
@ShannonPatterson
@ShannonPatterson Жыл бұрын
Problem was when they decided to be extremely woke and going completely out to left field that's where it went off the Rails!!
@angeloaranda7001
@angeloaranda7001 Жыл бұрын
@@ShannonPatterson define “Woke”
@MrImmortalFish
@MrImmortalFish Жыл бұрын
@@angeloaranda7001 The foolish and costly pursuit of a perfect ESG score.
@keyos4398
@keyos4398 Жыл бұрын
I think you give Feigi to much Credit/importance Yes he is the one who makes the Grandplan for the MCU but the early Films were made by People who knew Comicbooks and were accomplished Moviemaker. When you hear who now writes the Movies its mostly amateurs or people who Produced a flop before. And many dont like or never really read a Comicbook which they themselves told in intergiviews
@nerigiron7704
@nerigiron7704 Жыл бұрын
Need more guardians and no way home type of vibes from these movies
@drippystyles8295
@drippystyles8295 Жыл бұрын
Depression? Cuz I agree if so 😂
@BirdNerdFilms
@BirdNerdFilms Жыл бұрын
Yep!
@lumi4464
@lumi4464 Жыл бұрын
I have seen it yesterday and it was realy bad. The worst gaurdians movie.
@thefrenchfryguy9959
@thefrenchfryguy9959 Жыл бұрын
@@lumi4464ratio🤪
@yurikendal4868
@yurikendal4868 Жыл бұрын
​@@lumi4464 the third one? Yeah. Its not a power house movie. It s a sentimental one off. It can't be rewatched.
@kindabatooni9314
@kindabatooni9314 Жыл бұрын
I just want respect for Doctor Strange. IMO Benedict Cumberbatch is severely underutilized for the sake of pushing agendas. He’s easily a top choice to replace RDJ in his own way. Yet we see Marvel push him aside even in his own movie. Terrible of them.
@bwcarter921
@bwcarter921 Жыл бұрын
Yes I agree that Doctor Stance is the new "Tony Stark/Iron Man" archetype...
@adamgarrison8540
@adamgarrison8540 Жыл бұрын
Man you hit it right on the head with your comment..Kevin Feige is too woke..hes to worried about gender swapping or race swapping these hero’s to make a certain base happy while he leaves out his largest base..when he rewrote Dr Stranges Movie and we all know why he did it..he pissed a bunch of people off
@ahwayzcool4630
@ahwayzcool4630 Жыл бұрын
Agree 100% . Dr Strange 2 was TERRIBLE. He was a side character in his own movie. Movie was all about Wanda and that other girl. He didn't even defeat Wanda either. Smh.
@joshmorales770
@joshmorales770 Жыл бұрын
The fact that Strange didn't even have a cameo in WandaVision was an incredibly stupid decision on Feige's part.
@kindabatooni9314
@kindabatooni9314 Жыл бұрын
@@joshmorales770 He said “I didn’t want a male to mansplain his way to a woman” or something equally stup!d. 🤦🏽‍♀️ I can’t even begin to describe how illogical that is. Both genders can pep talk/explain/advise each other. I swear “mansplaining” is one of the most illogical buzz words out there.
@jonathanburns665
@jonathanburns665 Жыл бұрын
I legit believe that losing the linchpin of RDJ hurt alot more than people like to believe. The strength of his acting really brought u in.
@darkseid6898
@darkseid6898 Жыл бұрын
Feige is a Pedowood shill. He is NOT gonna fix anything. Only sheeple keep paying for Disney's leftist brainwashing propaganda.
@thechairman74
@thechairman74 Жыл бұрын
Josh, big problem is that regardless of how much Feige changes things, he's missing a lot of important elements. No leaders to latch onto like Cap, Tony, Nat. They're either not coming back or haven't indicated that they are. Evans seems hesitant to return as Steve. Phase 4 introduced or featured a lot of characters that now seem to have no obvious next step. Wanda, Vision, Kate Bishop, Moon Knight, She-Hulk. When frickin Echo is getting a show, but not Kate, that's bad.
@tabletophoenix
@tabletophoenix Жыл бұрын
Although, I would argue that Hawkeye IS Kate's show. I don't think it was for Clint. We know that Clint has been trying to retire for a while. He's pretty banged up. I think this was a passing of the baton series. This was even hinted at at the end of the series when she was trying to come up with her own superhero name and Clint said he had a suggestion and then it cut to the Hawkeye logo. If there is a season 2, I would imagine that it will focus solely on Kate. I love Renner but I doubt he returns any time soon after his accident. Maybe for Secret Wars. But I agree, those characters feel directionless. And they certainly haven't found anyone to take the Lead on the Franchise except maybe Spider-Man who feels the closest but is a shared character, so that's tough. Making Sony's character the face or the Franchise doesn't feel right. Black Panther would have been one of them if not for Chad's unfortunate passing. Doctor Strange has the potential to be one of them as well. He just needs a good Midnight Sons movie to lead.
@yurikendal4868
@yurikendal4868 Жыл бұрын
​@@tabletophoenix they didn't bother to recast black panther? Why not? Bosenan died, not Tchalla
@tabletophoenix
@tabletophoenix Жыл бұрын
@@yurikendal4868 Technically they did. Just not the way people wanted. They just gave themselves more time to find the perfect actor.
@stickywilliams2820
@stickywilliams2820 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the issue is the sentiment you have for those original avengers… their arcs came to a conclusion it’s time to let go and move on. Iron man is gone, Steve Rogers is gone, Natasha died… you saw the movies now let it go and open your mind bro some of these characters and the actors playing them have some crazy potential that all of you marvel pessimists love to be ignorant to, lower your initial expectations, develop some patience, and open your mind… you might find yourself enjoying the movies for once 🙄 (ohhh nooo, God forbid I enjoy a marvel movie ever again Wahh wahh wahh they killed iron man)
@yurikendal4868
@yurikendal4868 Жыл бұрын
​@@tabletophoenix no. They replaced tchalla. That cant be unrung.
@parkesyreviewsstuff7587
@parkesyreviewsstuff7587 Жыл бұрын
Now, If they want to recast Kang to Chukwudi Iwuji, I'm totally in. He was stellar in Guardians 3 and the HE has a very similar outfit to Kang.
@darkseid6898
@darkseid6898 Жыл бұрын
Feige is a Pedowood shill. He is NOT gonna fix anything. Only sheeple keep paying for Disney's leftist brainwashing propaganda.
@BasketballSTG
@BasketballSTG Жыл бұрын
The multiverse and cosmic are great when done right, but I am so excited for simplified earthbound/street level story lines.
@darkseid6898
@darkseid6898 Жыл бұрын
Feige is a Pedowood shill. He is NOT gonna fix anything. Only sheeple keep paying for Disney's leftist brainwashing propaganda.
@yurikendal4868
@yurikendal4868 11 ай бұрын
Which we ain't getting anywhere
@turkdidthat9
@turkdidthat9 Жыл бұрын
There is a reported theory that Kevin Faige has used the time stone to go back into time after phase 3 and do things right after knowing what has worked and what has not with these films. But our timeline remains the same and there is now an alternate universe where Marvel is still the Best as it always was.
@kaizersosai8560
@kaizersosai8560 Жыл бұрын
There's another theory that these gender/race driven movies are burying marvel. Not really a theory more like reality
@MarvinMartinez2001
@MarvinMartinez2001 Жыл бұрын
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 and Werewolf by Night are proof that Directors should have more creative freedom making their visions come to life!
@zeromagnum2811
@zeromagnum2811 Жыл бұрын
Not always.
@yurikendal4868
@yurikendal4868 11 ай бұрын
That deeply depends. The "hobit" movies are a director's vision on diahera
@kevinneff7708
@kevinneff7708 Жыл бұрын
2022: Nate Moore reveals MCU avoids hiring writers who love Marvel Comics= More yes men writers for Feige= more Feige control= less love for product produced. It takes a team. I'm so tired of people propping Feige up, he's the problem not the solution. Only thing I give him props for is showcasing how to power grab by eliminating talent until your the smartest guy in the room.
@kidfury3546
@kidfury3546 Жыл бұрын
They should hire writers and directors and producers who love marvels
@Duncaniowa17
@Duncaniowa17 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the period of Disney Plus always having a Marvel series. Cut that back? I guess having a satisfied audience is not a goal.
@ShakaHapa
@ShakaHapa Жыл бұрын
In case you haven’t noticed, most of the audience ain’t satisfied by 90% of these Disney plus shows
@gradygarrish6523
@gradygarrish6523 Жыл бұрын
The guy that is in charge of everything,the guy that allowed everything to go to shit after endgame...and was still in charge if everything....and is still in charge of everything....is going to fix everything....well my question to him would be....if you intend on fixing everything and have been in charge all along.....why did YOU let it go to shit to start with?
@jesustapped
@jesustapped Жыл бұрын
Because it's not about making good movies. It's about factory film making, consume next product and virtue signaling.
@kuhanblock9380
@kuhanblock9380 Жыл бұрын
His arrogance blinded him
@futuramayeah
@futuramayeah Жыл бұрын
i wanted the Eternals movie to pop with color and excitement, not be a drab looking art film. i wanted it to look like the Jack Kirby drawings from his issues of the Eternals, that would have been awesome, instead he hired some one who never read a comic book and didn't know how to shoot at night
@jesustapped
@jesustapped Жыл бұрын
Thats because they get them cheap, they're easily controlled and then they can just blame the director and get the next one and it continues.
@johncondry234
@johncondry234 Жыл бұрын
They haven’t learned anything from the comic books. The more cosmic, the less interest. There’s a reason Spider-Man and daredevil and the X-Men are the big sellers.
@thewayofthebeard3680
@thewayofthebeard3680 Жыл бұрын
I honestly think we're spoiled. I'm still very excited & invested. Plus there's still X-Men, FF (if done proper), Blade, Deadpool, Galactus, etc. But me personally, the more obscure & deep it goes the more I love it!
@joeg4655
@joeg4655 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely all this arguing about fictional characters are first world probs….let’s be grateful in our life we have these experiences rather than find every fault to validate ourselves
@echo_z319
@echo_z319 Жыл бұрын
bro all of these need to be done properly not just f4 💀
@NIGHTGUYRYAN
@NIGHTGUYRYAN Жыл бұрын
i want x men and i want it now
@yurikendal4868
@yurikendal4868 Жыл бұрын
​@@NIGHTGUYRYAN it was already done
@thewayofthebeard3680
@thewayofthebeard3680 Жыл бұрын
@@echo_z319 true, but the reason why I highlight F4 is a. It’s been done twice badly & b. They’re supposed to be major players.
@CarolinePost
@CarolinePost Жыл бұрын
If Marvel want to fix their films, they can start by getting rid of the ego maniac in charge, Kevin Feige, he is NOT Stan Lee
@tastyeagle7114
@tastyeagle7114 Жыл бұрын
I have a feeling since Quill is on Earth now he could show up in Secret Invasion (Doubt it since its so close) or Captain America New World Order (Maybe)
@MikeMoralesTequilaSensei
@MikeMoralesTequilaSensei Жыл бұрын
Laying the body at Feige's door isn't totally accurate. A lot of the problem was the previous CEO of Disney prior to Iger being rehired. This guy came from the parks side of the company and clearly was ill-equipped to deal with the creative side of Disney and Marvel.
@jesmarmendiolaguzman3476
@jesmarmendiolaguzman3476 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you here Josh. Phase 4 was definitely lack luster but I don’t think it is as bad as some people make it out. I think the MCU is gonna be just fine, let’s just ride this out
@yurikendal4868
@yurikendal4868 Жыл бұрын
It will be fine as long as people support trash media
@IronTonyStark
@IronTonyStark Жыл бұрын
​@Infinity Films They didn't just hit a slump, they're now actively spitting on their source material and hiring people with no product knowledge of their brand (at any level) who actively hate the people watching their output and then blame those same people when their lackluster series or movie isn't well received. (For example, the feckless Asian B1tch who was the showrunner of She-Hulk).
@prochetoshsanyal
@prochetoshsanyal Жыл бұрын
@Infinity Films ya. MCU had maintained a consistent quality over a period of 11 years. Maybe for some reason, (covid, bts drama, ) they dipped for 2 years and now we are just gonna bail on it and give up hope? Just wait a few more years. If like after 5 years we are still having bad products regularly I get it. Then I'll probably quit too.
@kaizersosai8560
@kaizersosai8560 Жыл бұрын
​@@prochetoshsanyalagenda driven movies will bury it
@yayazow
@yayazow Жыл бұрын
MOM was a disaster.. it was so bad that i was speechless leaving the cinema
@Bismo
@Bismo Жыл бұрын
A long one, thanks for the episode! After seeing guardians i feel there is hope for marvel.
@yurikendal4868
@yurikendal4868 Жыл бұрын
I dont agree. Guardians was good. It wasn't soo good that a re-watch is possible. Sentimental one time view movies aren't going to cut it
@deadpooolandwolverinelpg24
@deadpooolandwolverinelpg24 Жыл бұрын
​@@yurikendal4868 Ant-Man 3 is better
@CoasterKrazie
@CoasterKrazie Жыл бұрын
How is there hope when the person who directed it is heading DC? 😂
@Real_Shawn
@Real_Shawn Жыл бұрын
​@@deadpooolandwolverinelpg24Ant Man 3 was Dogshit
@willd1mindmind639
@willd1mindmind639 Жыл бұрын
The main issue is that the only connected universe they had was the one they built around the Avengers. Then they disassembled them. Anything from then on was guaranteed to produce lower returns on investment. It is simply a reflection of the fact that the cinematic universe is not the comic universe and they cant really do all those other stories from the comics because most of the key characters don't exist in the cinematic universe. They should have simply milked the Avengers mythos for as long as they could. But they decided to jump into all new all different Marvel territory with characters and stories that were never popular starting with Captain Marvel.
@joshmorales770
@joshmorales770 Жыл бұрын
It isn't "Marvel fatigue"; many fans were turned off by the terribly inconsistent and largely unenjoyable Phase 4 outside of "No Way Home." Guardians of the Galaxy 3 is suffering from people having already walked away/tuned out of the M.C.U. If Guardians of the Galaxy 3 was released early in Phase 4 before Marvel Studios squandered much of its fan goodwill it'd likely be doing substantially better.
@ChayosSupreme
@ChayosSupreme Жыл бұрын
Quantumania was not that bad… I don’t know if you guys had lowered my expectations, but it was certainly not as bad as thor and even better than ds2. Kang being beaten was a terrible idea. If Kang wrecks Ants and really, I thought he was going to just have a moment where he says enough and melts ant-man. Then just leaves the rest of the family in the quantum realm. I thought the whole movie was gonna be a commercial for how powerful Kang was… Either way, it still wasn’t thor. It still wasn’t she-hulk.
@damonappel
@damonappel Жыл бұрын
​@Dr. Knowledge So why is it when James Gunn uses basically a variant of the exact same joke in GOTG3, it's 'cool'? I mean, am I the only one that's noticed that both movies have scenes that rely heavily on the same 'dick' joke?
@DannyLee-zv9gl
@DannyLee-zv9gl Жыл бұрын
@Dr. Knowledge you didn’t watch the gaurdians movies
@DannyLee-zv9gl
@DannyLee-zv9gl Жыл бұрын
Ds2 better then antman 3
@spritvio639
@spritvio639 Жыл бұрын
Why are we even wasting time on some of these projects to begin with? No one cares about Agatha, Iron Heart, or Echo enough to have an entire show for them.
@silver2therescue1
@silver2therescue1 Жыл бұрын
You always have a way of getting me hyped for Marvel even when things are looking bad for it.
@yurikendal4868
@yurikendal4868 Жыл бұрын
Hyped for more garbage? No thanks
@silver2therescue1
@silver2therescue1 Жыл бұрын
@@yurikendal4868 I think Phase 6 could still be good. No denying that what it is now is garbage but I'd rather hope for the best than assume the worst.
@doug176
@doug176 Жыл бұрын
@@yurikendal4868 literally nobody cares dude. No need to be a buzzkill over someone having excitement over something.
@yurikendal4868
@yurikendal4868 11 ай бұрын
@@doug176 "don't challenge anything. Don't question anything. Just shut up and be excited for next product." Wrong. And "no one cares." Also Wrong
@yurikendal4868
@yurikendal4868 11 ай бұрын
@@silver2therescue1 I'm not expecting anything at all. Nothing but more garbage. Nothing in any Disney franchise has shown otherwise. All that means, I'll find other things to watch. Even the dceu..They are ALL making movies horrible on PURPOSE. Why should I bother if they don't?
@ScofieldStudios
@ScofieldStudios Жыл бұрын
Jusy give the writers more times to perfect the scripts and the VFX team more time to make the CGI better. Also, the shows shouldn't feels like streched out movies.
@M567dk
@M567dk Жыл бұрын
No mention of the Wandavision mess that Dr. Strange and the multiverse of Madness had with the writers not knowing of the Disney + Marvel show ?
@anthonypitiol2503
@anthonypitiol2503 Жыл бұрын
I like what you said about Fiege thinking he had more time. If phase 4 was too cookie cutter ppl would have called it predictable and a retread. I believe the idea was to flood the universe with a bunch of characters and then when we have skrulls come into the picture there is a lot of intrigue as to who is who and who will actually end up on our Avengers team. We then get the Kang War and Battle World to trim everything back and have a soft reset.
@IronTonyStark
@IronTonyStark Жыл бұрын
Their idea was be more "diverse" and politically correct which was despised and met with indifference by 🌍 audiences and over the past 2 Years has damaged the MCU brand that was one of the strongest & globally loved film franchises in 2019. PS) Den of Nerds will continue kissing 🍑 until his 👄 chafe. I'll believe they are making changes when I see it. The changes they made win Phase 4 tarnished the brand. #RealTalk
@yurikendal4868
@yurikendal4868 11 ай бұрын
Phase 5 is dog 🐕 mess. No decent writing out of anything Disney. Deceu is doing a totally forgettable reboot. The quality of writing needs to improve before anyone considers going anywhere near theaters
@luisgutarra1945
@luisgutarra1945 Жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention something: an article was released a few weeks about Feige saying all the phase 4 directors are incredibly inexperienced
@crosszoel
@crosszoel Жыл бұрын
You're wrong, Sam Raimi, Ryan Coogler... All experienced directors, the problem was in the script
@nvlik
@nvlik Жыл бұрын
@@crosszoel that means the writer is inexperienced.
@ThreeFoldPath
@ThreeFoldPath Жыл бұрын
I am glad that you are so positive Josh, but for me until Feige actually shows signs of fixing things on screen I can't share your optimism.
@yurikendal4868
@yurikendal4868 Жыл бұрын
Bingo. We cant get hyped over junk media
@SrFranciscoDAnconia
@SrFranciscoDAnconia 10 ай бұрын
GOTG3 was the best Marvel movie in quite a long time.
@conorhagen1124
@conorhagen1124 Жыл бұрын
Never would’ve thought we’d be comparing Mr beast to Kevin Feige but here we are😂
@HavokUnbound
@HavokUnbound Жыл бұрын
This feels like damage control at the highest level 🤦🏿
@chrisramirez1671
@chrisramirez1671 Жыл бұрын
What’s he supposed to do? It’s called accountability Lmao
@javongarnett41
@javongarnett41 Жыл бұрын
He’s wayyyyyy to optimistic people like him and new rockstars are like marvel yes men
@HavokUnbound
@HavokUnbound Жыл бұрын
@@chrisramirez1671 it's called hopelessly optimistic.
@redcr33perproductions
@redcr33perproductions 11 ай бұрын
what else could they do? they realised they fucked up and are now trying to fix it
@jasoncullen7787
@jasoncullen7787 Жыл бұрын
I think a lot of this comes down to who he has been picking as his directors & writers. Alot of these guys are people who came from Rick & Morty. One thing we are missing is the Russo's. I feel like not letting the Russo's direct alot of these projects leading into Secret Wars is a big mistake. They have passion for this stuff, and they are us, they are fans and they know what we want to see.
@WAAMUH
@WAAMUH Жыл бұрын
They were burnt out after directing so many movies for Marvel in the first place. Plus it's better to have variety and different perspectives and styles, than to put all eggs in the same directors basket. Either way though, the Russo's have already said they plan to return for Secret Wars. So they will be back in some capacity nonetheless.
@Davefromdabend5
@Davefromdabend5 Жыл бұрын
@@WAAMUHThere not coming back Kevin Feige already confirmed that himself
@thedarkestfateful
@thedarkestfateful 11 ай бұрын
I’d love for the Russo’s to come back as well, but they are probably not going to be directing another Marvel film, at least not for a long time. They need creatives with a vision and a real respect/love for the comics. Not like the creative team for She-Hulk, who basically forwent any real research and insulted fans when their work wasn’t received well on screen. There’s also too many “activists” in Marvel/Disney and are only concerned with putting messages/social commentary in their movies rather than storytelling.
@rook2280
@rook2280 11 ай бұрын
@@WAAMUHokay but why are the movies and shows so bad
@WAAMUH
@WAAMUH 11 ай бұрын
@@rook2280 Different directors, different teams, different risks of experimentation.
@larryfenderson8922
@larryfenderson8922 Жыл бұрын
There is no fatigue when it comes to comics. To the general public this is an untapped wealth of storytelling of all varieties. Where the movies as we knew them stopped being exciting and becoming hard to outdo themselves comics have barely begun. All Marvel has to do is do it right and leave the agenda driven and feminist making fools out of men material out. Simple.
@sinjinreed2091
@sinjinreed2091 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you mentioned the pandemic. Way too many people forget or underestimate how much of a punch in the gut that was for Marvel.
@chrisjuckett2728
@chrisjuckett2728 Жыл бұрын
See, now Battleworld is a perfect concept for a large scale Dusney+ show. Getting all the stars and logistics and everything together to pull that off would be nearly impossible, but that would be a better place to tell those stories instead of 2-3 movies.
@echo_z319
@echo_z319 Жыл бұрын
yeah.. no
@foty126
@foty126 Жыл бұрын
@@echo_z319 😂 somebody has to say it. That’s a terrible idea
@JonathanVegaa
@JonathanVegaa Жыл бұрын
In Kevin Fiege we trust
@sumarianprince
@sumarianprince Жыл бұрын
For Marvel thou shall shart.
@dasc0yne
@dasc0yne Жыл бұрын
It's not as simple as "Marvel was great" therefore they are planning something greater. Marvel isn't a person. It was folks like Russos (who moved on) and Gunn (who was fired) that did the heavy lifting. Meanwhile the writers of Rick and Morty have been uniformly underwhelming. Feige is so divorced from the creative process he's not in a position to steer this ship away from crashing.
@bubandlisa
@bubandlisa 11 ай бұрын
Telling the Director NOT TO READ THE SOURCE COMICS is a huge RED FLAG
@NisGaarde
@NisGaarde Жыл бұрын
Disney need to slow down and put out no more than 3 movies per year. And they need to return to The Hero's Journey storytelling in order to keep audiences engaged. A hero needs to be reluctant at first, not good at everything from the get-go, face real adversity and suffer defeat before finally succeeding, resulting in personal growth and maturity. It's not that complicated.
@lightencount1
@lightencount1 Жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see the next version of Thor. We went from stoic thor, frat boy thor, fat thor, and bit.... submissive thor. I can't wait to see the next version
@jesustapped
@jesustapped Жыл бұрын
The "Thor finding himself" arc is so played out. Just do a darker Nordic take and get him back to the roots.
@aparkman99
@aparkman99 Жыл бұрын
The post credit scene of Quantumania was such a trip. Den of Nerds, I want fearful Kang scaring the shit out of me. The Dynasty is so nasty. I need something that bends my mind
@jamiekirk8100
@jamiekirk8100 Жыл бұрын
Try LSD
@pepsipoint
@pepsipoint Жыл бұрын
Quantum mania was trashed mostly because KZfaqrs basically leaked things that weren't there so people went into the film. Expecting some crazy multi -world things that never existed so they were let down when they actually saw it
@brianh3253
@brianh3253 Жыл бұрын
I don’t see marvel getting back to pre endgame levels for a number of reasons, among them being little hype for an avengers B-team.
@bobrussell8610
@bobrussell8610 Жыл бұрын
Remember when Mephisto was in WandaVision... Good times.
@mr.canadian155
@mr.canadian155 Жыл бұрын
I keep hearing that the New Avengers will be fighting an army of Kang's in Secret War. The end credit of Quantumania would suggest that this is true. In Loki, we learned that the Kang's fought each other. This makes more sense to go with the incursion plot. I am thinking that the Kang's will be generals in the war, leading their teams of Avengers, Thunderbolts, Illuminate, Defenders, X-men, Revengers... all fighting each other.
@Davefromdabend5
@Davefromdabend5 Жыл бұрын
Yea the current avengers will probably lose to a variant of Kang in the final act of Kang dynasty than the multiverse collapses leading into Secret wars
@Collin_Beatz
@Collin_Beatz 11 ай бұрын
The problem here is really those critics who had their own expectations... I feel like Secret Wars will be different. Darker and more intertwined into the larger story. Similar to Loki S1.
@michaellorusso-mcgraw6812
@michaellorusso-mcgraw6812 Жыл бұрын
Man i love tour marvel/star wars content always keeping the fans thinking thanks Josh 👍
@dalebogucki
@dalebogucki Жыл бұрын
I really loved Quantumania's story, but the effects were so subpar. I thought the really could have used 15 - 20 more minutes of story.
@monakasan7486
@monakasan7486 Жыл бұрын
The way they treat new characters have to be like Adam Warlocke in Guardian 3, where the focus is less than the main group of guardians. He is one of the few new characters that I find tolerable.
@yurikendal4868
@yurikendal4868 Жыл бұрын
Well he was supposed to be in the infinity gauntlet series. Hes not supposed to be comedic relief but this is how they treat all their characters as comic relief
@Spyxops
@Spyxops Жыл бұрын
I have no doubts with Marvel doing great things. It’s Star Wars that I’m scared for.
@epochrisy
@epochrisy Жыл бұрын
Great video Josh. Like the way you put it together with the clips put after your facts. It makes sense that Feige was very stretched thin and you can see in EVERY project where he was missing from the storyboards. At the same time there was plenty of good content, but the retention thing is SERIOUS out here
@kordova2182
@kordova2182 Жыл бұрын
Until they abandon the forced diversity and ESG score it will just be mid M-She-U. The core audience of comics are young men, but they cater to all this gay and trans stuff that no one wants. Every single character is a woman now and so boring.
@RicsKeldinTheMaskedWarrior
@RicsKeldinTheMaskedWarrior Жыл бұрын
Im more intersted in the new guardians more than the new avengers
@ShakaHapa
@ShakaHapa Жыл бұрын
That’s because the new avengers don’t even really exist yet
@yurikendal4868
@yurikendal4868 Жыл бұрын
Im not sure if marvel should make anymore guardians movies. The 3rd one was fairly final in it's approach. The 3rd barely passed as good
@yurikendal4868
@yurikendal4868 Жыл бұрын
@@ShakaHapa I shudder to think of any new avengers
@RicsKeldinTheMaskedWarrior
@RicsKeldinTheMaskedWarrior Жыл бұрын
@@yurikendal4868 i barely remember any of the new line up and its been 2 phases😅
@kuhanblock9380
@kuhanblock9380 Жыл бұрын
The last iteration of the avengers were so successful because the characters were charismatic and memorable...can't really say the same for the post Endgame cast
@JakerzGaming
@JakerzGaming Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your optimism, and it helped me become more hopeful. The issue still though is even if Kevin Fiege becomes more involved and clear in his vision, there are currently a lot of mid and even shit characters no one cares about, while missing the fantastic characters we grew to love. Disney also will constantly have their little work fingers in everything, trading quality for work messaging
@isaiahalvarez5225
@isaiahalvarez5225 Жыл бұрын
you know what they should just do make Kevin feige one of the villains in the movie just to play around with the idea that he changes everything like what ifhe played the character that we haven't seen yet like a villain character that I can't do anything that would be funny and also it will make Kevin feige's marvel debut as a cameo like like a short Cameo appearance
@prathikdevaruppala
@prathikdevaruppala 11 ай бұрын
They need to do a flashpoint type storyline as ASAP and reset the continuity so they can start again post endgame and keep what works but get rid of what doesn’t like captain marvel, ant man 3, Thor bore and gorr, and the # of countless failed series
@bdrew1111
@bdrew1111 7 ай бұрын
This video restores hope that the MCU can get back to the level of excellence it was at between 2008 and 2018, because let's face reality, if they continue on their current trajectory minus a couple of exceptions (SM: NWH and Guardians 3) the MCU will inevitably die and that's a really sad thought.
@MRDNDcjc
@MRDNDcjc Жыл бұрын
All guardians showed me is that James Gunn will turn DC into the Powerhouse it was meant to be. Hopefully, the competition will also make Marvel increase the quality of their own content. ESPECIALLY after the success/reviews from Guardians. People just want a more Mature MCU. Simple.
@BirdNerdFilms
@BirdNerdFilms Жыл бұрын
I really am happy reshoots are happening for the Marvels. It means they are at least TRYING to make it good
@metallicnole4514
@metallicnole4514 Жыл бұрын
They won't be able to do any rewrites
@sahilmehta3703
@sahilmehta3703 Жыл бұрын
​@@metallicnole4514 why , it might be good
@jasonluna5893
@jasonluna5893 Жыл бұрын
@@sahilmehta3703 writers strike. No re writes.
@kordova2182
@kordova2182 Жыл бұрын
The best scenario is if this movie never gets made. Like barely anyone wants this movie. No one like Brie Larson or the other girls in it. This movie doesn't need to happen.
@jesustapped
@jesustapped Жыл бұрын
They're going to make a good thing out of a movie NOBODY asked for? Most disliked MCU trailer of all time. You can cover a P.O.S in gold, it's still crap at it's core.
@briank1263
@briank1263 Жыл бұрын
Too little too late, in my opinion. Should've listened to the fans a couple years ago.
@joeg4655
@joeg4655 Жыл бұрын
Not late at all why so pessimistic geezus
@jxonthemove
@jxonthemove 6 ай бұрын
I rewatched Winter Soldier with my wife. I’m surprised when she mentioned that she haven’t watched full movies of Marvels after Endgame and she quite surprised how good the old marvel movies are.
@AnitaFranco-sz8pc
@AnitaFranco-sz8pc Жыл бұрын
Victoria Alonso was fires because she violated her contract. Not because of the reasons told in the video.
@adamellis3013
@adamellis3013 Жыл бұрын
Nerdrotic isn’t afraid to explain the problem
@cammyr12Productions
@cammyr12Productions Жыл бұрын
Whats the point of hiring these creative directors if you won't let them have creative freedom 🙄
@ShakaHapa
@ShakaHapa Жыл бұрын
There’s creative freedom and then there’s trying to make a coherent and quality cinematic universe.
@certifiedpineappletree6708
@certifiedpineappletree6708 Жыл бұрын
I saw recast Kang with Chukwudi Iwuji. He did SUCH a good job with High Evolutionary, they could even play him off as a Kang variant
@melomelody9796
@melomelody9796 Жыл бұрын
They changed Rhodey and nobody said anything they can do it again, we won't mind because we know why this time.
@thedarkestfateful
@thedarkestfateful 11 ай бұрын
Even if they recast Kang, Marvel already ruined the villain when he got defeated by *Ant-Man*, and he’s supposed to be an unbeatable overarching villain in phases 5&6. No thanks to Kang. Scrap him and bring in either Dr Doom or Galactus.
@j-roc0002
@j-roc0002 11 ай бұрын
​@@thedarkestfateful I think the real threat with kang is how many there are ant man couldnt do anything against a 100 kangs
@aparkman99
@aparkman99 Жыл бұрын
Jonathan Majors is Kang. This will all shake out. Recasting J Majors is unbelievablly stupid
@roughghost663
@roughghost663 Жыл бұрын
pretty sure she got fired for breaching her contract and not having to do with the issues marvel was having
@SebDystic
@SebDystic Жыл бұрын
Marvel: *burning* Fans: “is that good or bad?!” Kevin: *shrugging* “it’s lit…?”
@RicsKeldinTheMaskedWarrior
@RicsKeldinTheMaskedWarrior Жыл бұрын
Dude, if what you said is true with feiges talent then how do you explain she hulk😐
@akashshetty5112
@akashshetty5112 Жыл бұрын
It’d be a shame if Johnathan Majors is not part of the MCU as Kang.
@lukesmith9136
@lukesmith9136 Жыл бұрын
Bro I can’t wait. After watching guardians 3 and hearing the Star Wars rumors, I’m so fucking excited. Marvel and Star Wars are back on track. Imagine if the luke skywalker show actually happens and then it leads up to him leading the new republic, the rebels gang, mando, grogu, maybe leia and Han, and everybody else against thrawn. It would be the biggest event in Star Wars history that fills in space between ogs and sequels that we never new existed
@jonathandelarosa2889
@jonathandelarosa2889 Жыл бұрын
I don't think it's fatigue. I think they are just taking too long to bring out stuff. They should have been milking it when the hype was there. Now DC has the eyes on them
@bwcarter921
@bwcarter921 Жыл бұрын
I agee, I think the DCU might be a sleeping giant...
@sincerelycooper
@sincerelycooper Жыл бұрын
i have faith that marvel will have the best bounce back. it’s hard to live up to endgame of course, but slow and steady always wins the race and marvel will win our hearts back.
@peytonabrams1820
@peytonabrams1820 Жыл бұрын
Josh, do you not think that potentially the overwhelming desire of Marvel to “recapture” the infinity saga instead of focusing of developing something new is part of the problem?. The whole rinse and repeat thing that marvel/disney has been doing is imo a big part of the downfall in quality. I want Fiege to develop the NEXT marvel saga, not try to repeat the infinity saga with a different storyline/characters. Thoughts?
@chaburchak
@chaburchak Жыл бұрын
All of Marvel's problems are Feige's doing in the first place, so I don't have a lot of faith in him fixing anything at all...
@thechairman74
@thechairman74 Жыл бұрын
I heard from Charlie at Emergency Awesome that they hadn't even decided to go with Kang and Majors until they saw his auditions for He Who Remains. That's not good planning and it's coming back to bite them.
@ronthorn3
@ronthorn3 Жыл бұрын
Lol what
@thechairman74
@thechairman74 Жыл бұрын
@@ronthorn3 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nJiIp9Kklteuj6c.html around 6:45 minutes in.
@F1lthyEditz
@F1lthyEditz Жыл бұрын
Ok
@wallpaperlicker
@wallpaperlicker Жыл бұрын
in hindsight i really think it would have been a fantastic idea to hold off on any releases after endgame for like a solid 5 years. really let everything sink in and then move forward after spending a good amount of time to build a really solid plan. they really shot themselves in the foot by hitting the gas instead of the brakes. the fatigue is real and the recent shit doesnt come close to how great the first 10 years were. i hate even saying it but im almost sure at this point that them rushing into things is going to diminish and throw out alot of the different things they have been building up since after endgame and alot of the bullshit the have put out really isnt going to matter
@jimsteinmanfan80
@jimsteinmanfan80 Жыл бұрын
I think they should have done the opposite. After Endgame everyone was exited. What was going on with Black panther? was Iron mans wife or his daughter taking up the mantle after him? what would happen with Captain americas sheild? where was Thor going with the guardians? where we going to see a lot of space heroes like Nova, Warlock, Quasar in their own movies as hinted, maybe fighting Annihilus and Silver surfer? Would we see the Netflix heroes in tv shows or in movies when they were introduced? was Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Runaways, Legion and Cloak and Dagger going to be canon? Would all this be overshadowed of the arrival of FF and X-men? There was so many stories they could tell. Instead we got nothing followed by more nothing. Someone who was nineteen when Infinity was came would be 22 when Black widow came, maybe left school and started working. It felt like it all just stopped and they never really got going like before again. Five years would have been disastrous.
@wallpaperlicker
@wallpaperlicker Жыл бұрын
@@jimsteinmanfan80 i understand your point but what if they had that five years and when the roll out happend we actually got alot of those things and they were properly fleshed out. how much of a huge sigh of relief along with excitement would the majority of fans have when they started rolling things out and we were handed stuff that really did solidify that the mcu is just beginning and the stuff to come would be as good if not better then the previous ten years because of their due diligence. in a sense we still have this huge gap from endgame where we got 1-5 decent projects and the rest is medicore and right now it is holding on to cohesiveness by a thread. stuff is all over the place in terms of quality and the expansion of characters and general trajectory and if they had just now started rolling out new stuff they could have put stuff out that really locked in a new scope and era for the mcu. i personally feel the mcu is trying to build a new era but the keys wont turn over and the second the engine starts to kick everyone gets excited just for the car not to start once again if you catch my drift
@jimsteinmanfan80
@jimsteinmanfan80 Жыл бұрын
The trajectory could definately have been better @@wallpaperlicker I suspect most people can't tell if the Runaways, Defenders and Inhumans we have seen are canon any longer for example. Of course good scripts by good writers would have been better than hiring Dana Schwartz even if it hade taken an extra five years but that would never have happened. Obviously they want feminist writers alienating most of the male audience, probably in the hopes of getting all feminists on board even though that will never happen.
@Natta44
@Natta44 Жыл бұрын
Covid aside, even 3 years would have had the desired affect. Would have left people hungry for new exciting stories. However Disney/Marvel is a business, they can't just shut up shop, they needed to continue making money, well at least try.. 😂
@jalenw7433
@jalenw7433 Жыл бұрын
There should of been a single movie where Kang is the main character. How he became Kang. That was the best way to address the next phase
@jasonluna5893
@jasonluna5893 Жыл бұрын
I don't think they can make any more changes to The Marvels. There is currently a writes strike right?
@elck3
@elck3 Жыл бұрын
You’re missing the part where they let the “woke” in.
@LSB44446
@LSB44446 Жыл бұрын
There is no fixing it, Feige effectively took the reigns around Endgame, and it's clear because that was when Marvel movies got a hot injection of agenda
@ronthorn3
@ronthorn3 Жыл бұрын
There’s no agenda your a paranoid mess
@Daladier70
@Daladier70 Жыл бұрын
I’d be lying if I didn’t think having core characters continue to show up throughout several movies in phase 1-3 had a lot to do with their success. RDJ was everything for them. This, on top of having top tier directors
@74kid
@74kid Жыл бұрын
Great video! I’m hopeful now.
@Yupstate845
@Yupstate845 Жыл бұрын
I feel like when Bob Chapek took the helm at Disney he told Feige to hit the gas on the MCU as it was a money printing machine. I'm glad they're putting quality over quantity. Another phase like the previous one could flatline the IP
@jesustapped
@jesustapped Жыл бұрын
Nah. Chapek is a scapegoat. Iger created all the problems, got replaced by Chapek who had to spend the whole tenure trying to fix the mess, then Disneys brilliant plan? Bring back the guy that created the issues in the first place. Its comical watching them flounder in their own muck. Hope they turn it around but I'm not holding my breath.
@plaguedoctor4519
@plaguedoctor4519 Жыл бұрын
Well.... Kevin Feige isn't the reason the Infinity Saga was successful to be honest
@XaqNautilus
@XaqNautilus Жыл бұрын
Phase 1-3 succeeded despite Feige, not because of him. He would have ruined Endgame completely if not for the Russo brothers. I don't see any way for the MCU to return to its phase 1-3 success without a *hard* reboot after the canning of Kevin Feige.
@scottbarrett1763
@scottbarrett1763 Жыл бұрын
No copium like MCU copium. Josh still has faith in Feige. Bruh, all phenomenons come to an end. Endgame was a cultural mile post. You seriously think that can be duplicated? The lineup of characters is not as beloved as the OGs.
@Steven_Edwards
@Steven_Edwards Жыл бұрын
Eternals was actually really good. Its release was boned by the pandemic.
@thewayofthebeard3680
@thewayofthebeard3680 Жыл бұрын
I don't think you fall into the hater category but I know this has somehow become a popular opinion to hate on the MCU but when you think about it, it's getting blown way out of proportion. Just to highlight a few points * WandaVision was great * So was Loki * Spiderman NWH & Shang-Chi were awesome * Moonknight was good but also very creative & unique * MoM was really good too. It was also different leaning into more horror. The one major issue is it needed more multiverse. I know people have an issue with Wanda but maybe one day I'll make a video explaining why she's not necessarily a problem * Warewolf by Night was great! * Ms Marvel, while aimed maybe at a younger audience, was still excellent AND it was different * Thor L&T was a problem, sure BUT again still blown way out of proportion. 1st there was a lot of very unique & cool things in the movie. We got to see Eternity! And the weird Kingdom place. However, consider this, if the movie was like 40% less comedic & they had like 30% more Gorr, I think it would've been one of the best movies. * A lot of the issues people have more than anything is the CGI & granted that does suck when it's done bad but to say the MCU is just putting out the same thing over & over is ridiculous. Even Antman QM had some crazy & unique concepts. The Quantum Realm was just so bizarre & cool had it been given more time, it could've been great too. My point is there have been misses & there have been shortcomings but you also have to appreciate what's being done here. Studios have a hard time putting out two movies that make sense together & don't contradict each other. Think for yourselves, don't let people suck you into their hate. It's OK to enjoy movies & shows. I personally love how deep the MCU is getting with the characters & stories in their library. Celestials? Multiverse? Mutants? Etc etc..
@joeg4655
@joeg4655 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree!!!! Omg everything you said I feel the same it’s just we got spoiled and ppl cannot help themselves but to have some type of contradictory view or opinion to stand out….I’m a mcu fan and won’t be deterred there’s a reason everyone is commenting on this and not the hunger games or other franchises let that sink in
@Dovahkin66
@Dovahkin66 Жыл бұрын
Marvel needs a new leader. A hero to fill the hole left by Iron man and Cap. And It's not Captain Marvel.
@refugeehugsforfree4151
@refugeehugsforfree4151 Жыл бұрын
Bro Kevin greenlit all this shit, he can't fix something he helped create.
@qui-gonconclusion9746
@qui-gonconclusion9746 Жыл бұрын
Not one mention of how wokeness has destroyed marvel. Phase 4 was a disaster because of intersectional feminism and identity politics. That’s why these movies are losing money. At least the guardians movies kept that out. People are tired of this BS just look at Bud light. Until marvel goes back to telling good stories instead of being activist, you are going to see them crash and burn. And I don’t see Iger and feige changing their stripes. 🔥
@michaelnims6366
@michaelnims6366 Жыл бұрын
IT’S NOT FATIGUE, it’s people getting tired of woke BS, and parents aren’t taking their kids to see Disney propaganda anymore… myself included.
@Adtomskio
@Adtomskio Жыл бұрын
Can't believe it's pretty much been 5 years since Infinity war and how fast it's flew by. People say its rushed compared to old MCU but it's moving at a similar pace
@SuperHellhawk
@SuperHellhawk Жыл бұрын
Quite simple, we need to wrap up the multiverse quickly. The whole idea of incursions and timelines is just far too messy and creates way too many timelines and plot holes
@loveoffilm4327
@loveoffilm4327 Жыл бұрын
So he's fixing Marvel from the issues he caused??? Bro Feige is so overrated and the MCU is done without Gunn and the Russos
@chrisramirez1671
@chrisramirez1671 Жыл бұрын
It’s called accountability lmao.
@spongybananas6967
@spongybananas6967 Жыл бұрын
Lol what did you want to happen him just not do anything
@Paradise2003
@Paradise2003 Жыл бұрын
Who else do you think can fix it? You? Lol
@lordofkages5540
@lordofkages5540 Жыл бұрын
Oh, please. MCU died because it went woke. Killed off all the male characters. Just to make room for the female characters. And did it with blatant disrespect.
@justinshea4916
@justinshea4916 Жыл бұрын
I said this for a while, people have been so critical of the new movies but forgot what phase 1 and 2 were, they were slow build ups then phase 3 just hit us differently. Wait for the build and trust the process with phase 5
@yayazow
@yayazow Жыл бұрын
How can you trust the process when 3 of the most powerful character where in 2 bad movies aka Thor 4 and Multivers of madness, those movie are so so so bad
@rook2280
@rook2280 11 ай бұрын
U slow the movies are horrible I don’t care about the build up I just want good movies
@rook2280
@rook2280 11 ай бұрын
@@yayazowfacts
@aparkman99
@aparkman99 Жыл бұрын
Seriously, the MCU needs to be a mind expanding, profund trip. I hate the Disnefied unrealistic poppy cuteness
@eliobelio7033
@eliobelio7033 11 ай бұрын
I so disagree with the Kang variant acting as the macguffin. There's infinitely many kang's, so it just doesn't feel special to have a new one for every movie. I think having hidden clues leading to Doctor Doom, or just something related to Doctor Doom would feel much better. Basically, Doctor Doom is vital to the life of the MCU
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