KEVIN NASH TELLS A STORY OF AN ARGUMENT BETWEEN HBK AND BAM BAM ABOUT BREAKING KAYFABE ON TOUR. ALL VIDEO RIGHTS GO TO KAYFABE COMMENTARIES. USED UNDER THE FAIR USE ACT
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@unclemikey872 жыл бұрын
I love how in the stories Scott Hall is always the voice of reason
@fvnaticbychoice2 жыл бұрын
you may not subscribe to astrology which is fine but funny enough Hall is a Libra, the natural mediators of the zodiac.
@TheDarkYoshi10009 жыл бұрын
Crying at the Scott Hall impression lmaooo
@2Sweeet9 жыл бұрын
lmao Wasn't that a perfect impression?
@CobraCraig885 жыл бұрын
But don’t you laugh at the bam bam impression
@evanmc67004 жыл бұрын
Me too! I came just to say that
@sonzoo90723 жыл бұрын
Hey yo.....
@KennethEasley9110 жыл бұрын
"Yo! Bam Bam Think about it!" Funniest stuff
@christophercoleman18959 жыл бұрын
yes it is nash is funny
@classic-kool4 жыл бұрын
spot on …. funny as fuk
@FallenMonk5510 жыл бұрын
1:15 Scott hall impression cracked me up!
@qwevs10 жыл бұрын
You know, Scott Hall actually had a really good point. And he didn't sound like a complete prick while expressing it, either.
@Marveryn10 жыл бұрын
I think that why scott is so well like with the boys. He shoot straight from the hip say it like it was but still gave them enough respect. Kevin mention when he broke into the business, while still green it was scot hall that took him under his wing and how him how to be a professional wrestler.
@markmullins58226 жыл бұрын
Nah Scott was a Prick just like Shawn and Hunter, The Two coolest guys in the Kliq were Nash and Waltman
@mduranduran775 жыл бұрын
Scott was a weak fuck that bashed Marty janettey while he was asleep
@Y2JLionHeart3 жыл бұрын
@@markmullins5822 It's fitting that your name is Mark...
@pearcewilliams52973 жыл бұрын
Facts
@GlobalWarmingSkeptic10 жыл бұрын
Kevin Nash said "fuck" 17 times in 1:58. Holy shit.
@johnboy785610 жыл бұрын
That's fucking crazy
@neverlastingmoment10 жыл бұрын
it would've been 18 but he tore his quad trying to squeeze another fuck out!
@GlobalWarmingSkeptic10 жыл бұрын
***** I used to not post stale jokes like you, but then I took an arrow to the quad.
@neverlastingmoment10 жыл бұрын
1999 called, they said they want the 2002 called jokes back........
@TheBigBadGRIM10 жыл бұрын
Justus McNeal Holy shit that had me rolling.
@itachiuchiha8579 жыл бұрын
Kevin Nash did a pretty good Scott hall
@ToonandBBfan9 жыл бұрын
I think what Bam Bam was getting at is that there was one rule for the clique and another rule for everyone else. Bam Bam was meant to get a big push in 1995 after he turned face but the Clique decided they didn't like it so they got it canned.
@brianfinlay7569 жыл бұрын
ToonandBBfan He also got a big push back in the 1987 survivor series. I have heard that Hogan was not happy that he was overshadowed in that show, and that's part of the reason why Bam Bam left the first time, and only came back after Hogan left.
@gammakrush9059 жыл бұрын
+Brian Finlay Bam Bam left WWF in 88' cause his knees were shot.
@ToonandBBfan9 жыл бұрын
gammakrush905 ......And Andre stiffed him at MSG
@lmuriilo58034 жыл бұрын
@@gammakrush905 No Bam Bam left bc of the clique stupid....🙄
@herpderp72644 жыл бұрын
Bam Bam was over as hell in 1995 too. Look at his entrance and the pops he was getting.
@finneye76149 жыл бұрын
That's HBK impersonation was classic. Hilarious
@MrTwister4Life9 жыл бұрын
lol dat scott hall voice
@BradleyVolk39 жыл бұрын
So did I
@DarkReapersGrim18 жыл бұрын
"HEY-BAM BAM-THINK ABOUT IT." Lol, wrestlers are funny.
@Traypeats3 жыл бұрын
Shawn michaels was only acted tough because he had hall and nash in his corner, plus he was vince's boy.
@Parlimant_Strifey2 жыл бұрын
That is Vince's boyfriend.
@Gabeasher6992 жыл бұрын
What warrior, Shawn and Vince on a bearskin rug…….what??? 😁
@WSK9002 Жыл бұрын
I don't think he was acting tough at all, he was just being a Nitwit and he had a Big Mouth, lol. See here's the thing for the people that don't know their jerks, the people that acknowledge that like myself that do not mind acknowledging I am a jerk. People like me and Shawn Michaels in 1995, we don't think we are tough, we just don't care, if we get get our Butts kicked so be it. If Shawn Michaels thought he was tough he would have smacked Bigelow in the face.
@kidneystonermusic Жыл бұрын
One of the least tough pro wrestlers
@Traypeats Жыл бұрын
@@WSK9002 he slapped viscera in the face backstage before.
@jovanicruz70346 жыл бұрын
Those impressions are so spot on
@dankester56073 жыл бұрын
Bam Bam was referring to that old school, keep Kayfabe alive sort of thing where heels and faces don't ride together. Makes sense since he broke in back in the 80s, but come on man... it's fine. NO one didn't know that the Kliq were friends.
@pettycrimes632810 жыл бұрын
Kind of agree with Shawn. Maybe not with the way he said it, but they spend over 300 days a year on the road away from family, 90% of the job is travel, your friends become your family and traveling with them makes the treacherous schedule more bearable. People are saying Bam Bam was respecting kayfabe, but it was clearly more than that. Seems like he had issues with those guys.
@travisw31316 жыл бұрын
being brought up in Memphis i can guarantee Bam Bam was always told Kayfabe, that's how we make money is people believing we really want to kill each other.
@LyssLiLi5 жыл бұрын
*Remember, the curtain call. The kliq doesn't give two shits about kayfabe, it's all about what benefits them.*
@sketchstevens58594 жыл бұрын
@@LyssLiLi Kayfabe was dead in WWE by that point tbh
@lmuriilo58034 жыл бұрын
@@sketchstevens5859 yeah you have a point tho!
@animalcol13 жыл бұрын
Yep, bam bam had issues with them. Cause they were assholes who destroyed careers, for fun. Bunch of shites
@MightyMarven10 жыл бұрын
Shawn was like Justin Bieber hiding behind his bodyguards, if he didn't have the Kliq a guy like Bam Bam could've destroyed him with one hand.
@pershadhall42574 жыл бұрын
MightyMarven I agree with u.
@Dagon3914 жыл бұрын
But bam bam couldn't sell 3 tickets.
@LeoWhalen19334 жыл бұрын
@@Dagon391 ??? I would buy tickets for Bam Bam in the main event over anyone in the Kliq besides maybe Shawn, if he felt like showing up that day.
@isaackintz83684 жыл бұрын
Its shawn and flair lmfao this business is what is
@mpi93284 жыл бұрын
Lol you have a clown mentality
@yungking21610 жыл бұрын
im really enjoying these videos. Keep em coming bro
@CoachIreland5 ай бұрын
That Scott Hall impression was second to none😂
@shady6109 жыл бұрын
I can totally see it playin out exactly as he had described it here.
@dumbwagertalkfollower58595 жыл бұрын
Scott Hall impression LMAO
@benjaminmahesh2451 Жыл бұрын
I feel like Kevin Nash in the person that would be fun to grab a beer with and just let him tell stories for hours
@samaael7779 жыл бұрын
kliq dont deserve to clean bam bam's boots
@grawakendream89804 жыл бұрын
This relaxed attitude helped kill the business
@kyletangen9446 Жыл бұрын
And the 'roids, as well as I am sure many other factors.
@rickstalentedtongue9103 ай бұрын
@@kyletangen9446 The roids were great for wrestling.
@normanred92123 күн бұрын
Nope, what killed pro wrestling was marxist feminist Stephanie McMahon joining creative, and have eddie guerrero beat brock lesnar for the WWF championship. Once Eddie was Heavy Weight champ the business began to die and no one can prove me wrong.
@steveladnyk568810 жыл бұрын
Shawn Michaels had a point though. Who cares who they ride with? And if they have people following them from show to show, props to them because that's guaranteed money for the company.
@mattthomas144210 жыл бұрын
Cause Bam Bam was old school and respected Kayfabe. Back in the day heels never traveled with faces, let alone travel with somebody you were working with. Word travels fast, so if a few fans see Shawn being buddy buddy with Razor and those few fans tell their friends they saw that, and those people tell everybody what they heard etc. etc. suddenly the whole sense of realism is gone, and it makes it that much harder for you to suspend belief when watching a match. So yeah I could see Shawn's point, but I could see Bam Bam's too.
@uxbnkuribo9 жыл бұрын
Matt Combs Yeah, I remember back in the day it was a huge scandal among some fans that Hacksaw Jim Duggan and Iron Sheik got arrested together.
@andrewlopez92898 жыл бұрын
+Matt Combs the people followed to each show watching the same match,Scott halls point is that seeing it over and over again already takes the realism out of the show riding busses together isn't gonna change anything
@martaviouschambers32847 жыл бұрын
right
@CoachIreland6 жыл бұрын
I think at that point in time the cat was pretty much out of the bag as it was.
@lizardman7710 жыл бұрын
What'd you think Kevin? "Fuck man a meeting fake fucking fuck and your fucking fuck up and fucking fuck all over a fucking fuck." Thanks Kevin.
@robertmcelwaine70248 жыл бұрын
Even though Nash is being critical of Bigelow here it's interesting to note that the latter has spoken fairly well of the near 7 footer. In the three hour interview Bigelow stated that away from the kiliq Nash was one of the most personable people you could meet and that he was only ever really a prick when he was with them. Actually he claimed that he once saw him being practically bullied in to behaving like one presumably by Michaels! So with this in mind I'm assuming Nash and Bigelow got along fine it's just that when it comes to your friends or acquaintances you don't necessarily recognize when they're being unreasonable or foolish.
@darkseidistheboss57813 жыл бұрын
Same thing was said of hall. These guys are pricks, and two faced for the matter. They can play nice but are in effect snakes. You can see that nash (to use rvd's words) also drops with insincerity. I don't think any of the 5 kliq members are redeemable at all.
@robertmcelwaine70243 жыл бұрын
@@darkseidistheboss5781 I don't know. I've heard Jim Cornette say that the one member of the Kliq he actually liked was Sean Waltman. He's the only one he's actually gone up and apologized for cutting a promo on him where he slated him. He said they always got along and that Waltman was always professional and never refused to do a job for anyone. As a matter of fact Waltman s the only one member of the Klik I've seen who hasn't had anything negative to say about Bret Hart. I've even seen fans online who say they've met him say he's very friendly and good to his fans. I recall one guy saying he attended a some convention or something where Nash, Hall and Waltman were present and of the three of them Waltman was the most nice and down to earth.
@ZBR_ProXP3 жыл бұрын
Everyone liked Nash
@rileykontek15452 жыл бұрын
HBK would only talk to Bam Bam like that because he knew if Bam Bam would have beat the daylights out of him (like he should have/would have), he would have been fired.
@craiganderson2758 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha that impression of Scott Hall. Amazing. 😂
@SuperGuitarDude72 жыл бұрын
To be fair to Bam Bam, he had a good point too. It's really a difference in eras and mindset. I will say this, though, I've seen a lot of Kevin Nash interviews and he has a lot of old school views based on when he was brought up in the business so it's surprising he acted like Bam Bam was so dumb for suggesting what he did. I literally just watched an interview with JBL not too long ago where he said he wouldn't even let them sell tee shirts with his name on them because a true heel doesn't have fans. He didn't want people seeing all these kids wearing his tee shirt and having people think "Well, JBL must not be that bad if he has all these fans."
@mariomanningfan Жыл бұрын
If Nash quoted Hall just as it was said, it sounds like Nash and Hall both got Bam Bam's point, or would have. If not for the fact that they were just doing a bunch of house shows in the EU somewhere and they realized it was the same fans watching every night. So at that point, there's no kayfabe to even worry about, so who really cares who is on whose bus?
@mrshab Жыл бұрын
Nah bam bam was just telling tales like a big baby. Fans think of him as some hard man. But he was just big bully who acts like a cry baby when he can't get his ways. Plenty of stories about that guy being salty or trying to act like a tough to only to get put in his place. This is just another bam bam cry baby story
@TheRealDarrylStrawberry2 жыл бұрын
hahahahahah That Hall impression is the type of impression only a good freind could pull off.
@gogotero999 жыл бұрын
Kevin Nash impression of Scott Hall is hilarious
@civilwildman3 жыл бұрын
I got to trick-or-treat at Bam Bam's house on Halloween the year he headlined WrestleMania 11. He was living in a house in Willimantic, CT around that time. I remember him growling "NOW TAKE SOME CANDY AND BE HAPPY!" kayfabe-style. Good time to be a kid. A shame I didn't get his autograph. Would've taken that in place of candy even then.
@mikeykm199310 жыл бұрын
Bam bam could have beaten the shit out of hbk
@MultiThetodd10 жыл бұрын
Bam Bam could haven beaten a lot of people
@tonyc73013 жыл бұрын
Bam Bam would’ve wasted all three of them
@TRIIGGAVELLI3 жыл бұрын
Bam Bam was a legit shooter.
@jeremydubeck44392 жыл бұрын
@@TRIIGGAVELLI He was a bounty hunter before becoming a wrestler. He beat the fuck out of real life felons and bad people who were far more dangerous than the members of the Clique lol. I love all the morons who think Shawn Michaels wouldve taken Bam Bam in a fight.
@Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure my 14 year old 100 lb. niece could beat the shit out of HBK.
@williamschutz49825 жыл бұрын
Haha!!! That Scott Hall impersonation!!!!
@znhait4 жыл бұрын
Bam Bam was right about this.
@DoctorRobertBobby10 жыл бұрын
fucking lol @ the scott hall impression
@MrNickelodeon9010 жыл бұрын
lol for real had me in tears
@jldp242 жыл бұрын
Scott hall impression...floored
@Blue147975810 жыл бұрын
Best shooter. Doesn't constantly put down people and is hilarious
@jackieparmz4 жыл бұрын
Say what you want about Big Kev as a person and a booker, but you can’t deny that he has a more objective and workman’s view of business than just about anyone.
@animalcol13 жыл бұрын
His "objectivity" was part of the reason wrestling went to shit. Finger poke of doom. Breaking kafabe on the regular. Ruining careers of people far better than him for shits and giggles. No time for his constant laughter at others. The guy can never, ever, admit to making any mistakes. Ever. And he made plenty. He's a Hulk Hogan type guy. Big look. Good on the Mike. Dogshite poor wrestler.
@aleiterful Жыл бұрын
I love the recent bam bam story. So surprised it never came out before recently lol
@whoopty54 Жыл бұрын
Yeah cuz dead man tell no tales
@andyblake96738 жыл бұрын
nash didnt only do a good hall impression, he did as well with hbk lol he sounded just like him
@Gardenhoser864 ай бұрын
Must’ve been interesting, like a work trip/ hs field trip; would’ve loved to see who walked around with who, who sat with who, etc. that’s the shit I’m interested in these days the behind the scenes stories from my childhood wrestling obsession - it’s entirely too painful attempting to watch modern wrestling
@Twintailwinds2 жыл бұрын
That Scott hall voice 😂
@ajbahus7 ай бұрын
Every story about Shawn in the 90s is him blowing a gasket about the state of the company or that he’s passed out on somas.
@buttercupthetortoise78063 жыл бұрын
0:47 funniest part
@nisfinest18 жыл бұрын
HEY! BAM BAM!
@michaelmclaren13332 жыл бұрын
Bam Bam was still in the kayfabe era. Guys used to get FIRED if the promotors caught a heel traveling together with a Babyface and vice versa
@jps870010 жыл бұрын
HEY!! BAM BAM!!! lol
@bsnhbksan4 жыл бұрын
"Hey, Bam Bam..." XD
@ColdSmokes4 жыл бұрын
Scott had a great point and in all reality, so did Bam Bam. not very long before that, that sort of thing would have never ever happened and none of the guys would have dared to do it. Bam Bam was trying to be very traditional is all but the times had changed.
@obxharris10 жыл бұрын
Kevin Nash is funny as shit
@mario6sic610 жыл бұрын
reeeeally cant see shawn michaels being that brave if all the other wrestlers/vince wasnt there i'd imagine bam bam would have killed him if he spoke to him like that with no one else around to protect him
@WillsonT01110 жыл бұрын
Shawn was just about high all the time. So I can see Shawn do that and with other wrestlers
@hbk9270110 жыл бұрын
Shawn got his ass beat in a bar by military guys. He was more of that smaller guy who didn't care how small he was and being high all the time didn't help.
@pershadhall42574 жыл бұрын
mario6sic6 shawn would get killed by bam bam a real legit tough guy.
@jasonmichael36764 жыл бұрын
HBK was in great shape, jacked - could bench 400....he'd have kicked Bam Bam's fat ass.
@kennedyclarkjrpg3 жыл бұрын
Shawn couldn’t fight a lick... but I don’t think he cared about getting his ass kicked either. He’d have said this and took the ass whooping.
@themopar4268 жыл бұрын
nash worse than hogan for back stabbing!
@YellowPercocets4 жыл бұрын
BAM BAM probably would KO hbk with a stare
@tonywolfmusic10 жыл бұрын
his impersonations wow.
@alexcasares59433 жыл бұрын
It would be so funny if it was animated.
@gumdeo8 жыл бұрын
Nash is a funny guy.
@stacyjohnston98036 жыл бұрын
I thought it was pretty good! Hey Yo!
@mtmnynj807110 жыл бұрын
That was a funny story. LoL
@staceymango68042 жыл бұрын
Bam Bam would have destroyed HBGay if there were no repurcussions
@TRIIGGAVELLI3 жыл бұрын
Bam Bam was old school. Heels and faces didn't publicly pal around.
@GATCHAMANforever2 ай бұрын
That sounds like something HBK would say!!
@silver47official9 жыл бұрын
As the years have gone by, I'm sure Nash's head has gotten bigger and his face smaller.
@Technosphile6 жыл бұрын
HEY BAM BAM
@dogfan4lyfe3 жыл бұрын
LOL! I think being around the Kliq in their prime would have been fun!
@harshckuk2 жыл бұрын
1:15 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@bobothehobo4209 жыл бұрын
Lol Nash gets a bad rep for some of his work and demeanor, but he is well known as one of the biggest equal rights supporters in wrestling and anyone that was gay or against the grain in the business whether wrestler or just production crew he stood up for backstage and defended if they were getting any shit from more close minded or bully attitude wrestlers.
@bobothehobo4209 жыл бұрын
viahoal aww muffin
@y3ee3e8 жыл бұрын
+viahoal lolllk
@theman67054 жыл бұрын
Uli Kdmabaalz im guessing you didn’t hear his Steiner Brothers pencil story eh?😂
@jimfaust63429 жыл бұрын
Lmao fuck you fuck you fuck you Lmao I'm dying
@Gardenhoser864 ай бұрын
So Bammer was telling the teacher one of the popular kids cheated on the spelling test.
@ericrich500910 жыл бұрын
RICK ROMO Do you know when this shoot is from, Ive seen other parts of it before & Im a Nash fan to the fullest, however i dont like at all for him to be mildly badmouthing bam bam if this was after his death!
@masstransit210 жыл бұрын
probably timeline 1995
@mj23allday24710 жыл бұрын
It's not badmouthing, it's just a story from the past.
@clarencegutsy73092 жыл бұрын
Based Scott Hall.
@Ryanthedrummer1016 жыл бұрын
He should call his move the "F-Bomb" cause that's all that flies out of his mouth.
@billybob5337 Жыл бұрын
You can rest assured that HBK would NOT have run his mouth to Bam Bam like that if they were alone, and he didn't have his buddies all around him. That would have been a one-sided beating from Hell
@WarGhoulKharas2 жыл бұрын
Bam Bam got Hall back though. Triple Threat kicked him out of ECW.
@troll-fx2zc2 жыл бұрын
Bam Bam vs Vader
@SaintStryfeArgentEngraving10 жыл бұрын
Soooo THATS when kayfabe went out the window... good to know, Nash....
@RJTheAlternative12 жыл бұрын
Hey Bam Bam
@OceanbornAngel8 жыл бұрын
Sounds like such a boring day trip to me.
@gary67543 жыл бұрын
bam bam was right.... and its part of why wretling has been dead for a long time
@dslking Жыл бұрын
💯 exactly. Wrestlers nowadays think it's about highspots and doing moves. Zero psychology and storytelling. They just don't get it.
@guddergo71169 жыл бұрын
That interview man looks kinda yuppy like. They should have got a dude like Wilford Grimley to ask the questions.
@dslking Жыл бұрын
Bam bam is right. Nash Hall and Micheals dont get the business if they fought against that
@timreuscher202 жыл бұрын
I miss Scott.
@saleh420012 жыл бұрын
Bam bams point is there breaking kayfabe which is a no no in wrestling
@ryuhollowood346710 жыл бұрын
funny
@datacipher2 жыл бұрын
Bam bam had a perfectly legitimate concern - one which many of the old school wrestlers would have shared. Scott Hall’s point was a valid one and a good rebuttal point. The fact that Michaels popped up immediately with no substantive point besides name-calling only proves what childish, self-Centred idiots he and his cronies could be - from Nash’s own version.....
@sie.rra.2 жыл бұрын
Well he had a point. He’s on the road 300+ days a year. They should be allowed to spend it with whomever they choose in the business. It might have been selfish in others eyes but they could’ve easily done the same thing instead of snitching to the boss like something was gonna change.
@MrGettinBlazed3 жыл бұрын
Company men.
@jimmyfaustjr73737 жыл бұрын
yo bam bam 😂😂😂😂😂
@toddpick8007Ай бұрын
Bam Bam isnt wrong you still had to protect kayfabe.
@richardthompson63662 жыл бұрын
Think about it, you destroyed the business.
@ajh9021010 жыл бұрын
IMPRESSIONS = A*
@sie.rra.2 жыл бұрын
So you telling me people back in the day actually believed they were their character??? So no matter where they are they had to keep up the gimmick ? Cant take a piss without your character gimmick on? Cant go to the corner store without stealing the lingo. That sounds utterly ridiculous. Nobody believed they were really the character except children. Who shouldn’t have even been watching acts like Shawn to begin with. And you claim Kayfabe was what made the business. No giving the fans the matches and storylines they found entertaining is what made the business. There could’ve been plenty great face vs face and heel vs heel matches but nooooo keep kayfabe alive. We desperately need it. People that feel that way are entirely too stuck in the past and don’t know how to adapt to changing times.
@sampablo77764 ай бұрын
Lotta nerds in these comments
@classic-kool4 жыл бұрын
the boys hated bigalow ..
@buckster25754 ай бұрын
Bam bam would break shawn in half.
@budgibson1858 ай бұрын
Bam Bam would’ve CRUSHED all 3 of them 😂 Kevin had ZERO talent. Was a glorified security guard
@OneEyeSea9 жыл бұрын
Kevin Nash is great he should have been a commissioner, but he has zero wrestling moves
@CometVS9 жыл бұрын
Greg John Shut up.
@universalmanchild9 жыл бұрын
Greg John Nash is the man.
@chexlemeneux34849 жыл бұрын
Greg John actually he has like 5 wrestling moves...if you count the hair flip.
@libertychip5268 жыл бұрын
Vinnie Vegas won his first match with 2 high knees, 1 short arm clothesline, and the dreaded-and-feared-by-all-finisher: Snake Eyes. But I'll be damned if I wasn't entertained for the whole :57 seconds it lasted.
@universalmanchild8 жыл бұрын
Liberty Chip Nash is the man.
@easytherepilgrim233910 жыл бұрын
Bigelow was a fool for calling-out Hall, HBK, and Nash like that. I hate those annoying bitch-sessions that develop at work or wherever....and if someone calls me out personally, it's even worse. Bigelow should have voiced his concerns differently. Also who cares who the wrestlers travel with. Be friends with whoever, just don't advertise it on TV. McMahon was the only one who advertised on TV that wrestling is fake.
@WPTUNED9 жыл бұрын
Damn he swears ALOT lol
@davesmith66249 жыл бұрын
Will Palmer Yeah he swears like a sailor
@Ryanthedrummer1016 жыл бұрын
Think he swears more than Eminem lol
@Jayyy6673 жыл бұрын
bam would have layed em out
@animalcol13 жыл бұрын
I'd have paid money for that shoot. Just Michaels and Nash.
@chuccyhobbs58212 жыл бұрын
Sober or drunk nash would of.cleaned bam bams clock