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Kevin Smith & Ralph Garman debate Dark Knight Rises - Fatman On Batman Episode 12

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Kevin Smith and Ralph Garman discuss the Dark Knight Rises. Fatman On Batman Episode 12

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@andrewlawless9796
@andrewlawless9796 5 ай бұрын
i havent heard this for like 10 years+, thank you for uploading
@gorkmusic
@gorkmusic 4 ай бұрын
Ralph is right about literally everything. It's so nice to hear it laid out beautifully.
@valkprince
@valkprince 5 ай бұрын
I've been looking for this for years, thank you so much for uploading this!
@renaissancemanmedia2404
@renaissancemanmedia2404 5 ай бұрын
I need a little time, but soon, I will be uploading more
@allenu
@allenu Ай бұрын
Oh man, this is a classic. I've listened to it a bunch of times before, so I'm glad it's back up somewhere.
@thesundayseshlads
@thesundayseshlads 6 ай бұрын
OH MY GOD IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS FOR YEARS THANK YOU SO MUCH!!
@jeremylawson6648
@jeremylawson6648 8 ай бұрын
“i’m not goin… ah fuck it im goin” 😂
@renaissancemanmedia2404
@renaissancemanmedia2404 8 ай бұрын
I used to listen to this stuff all the time, and it would help me get through the day. "Your parents fucking died Bruce. Right in front of you."
@anthonydematteo4686
@anthonydematteo4686 7 ай бұрын
Thank you. I couldn't find this for years. Its so great.
@nolanl3343
@nolanl3343 6 ай бұрын
I used to watch this one in particular almost every night years and years ago when it was on KZfaq, thanks so much for bringing it back.
@Solidftz
@Solidftz 8 ай бұрын
My hero. I heard this when it was released & I've revisited it every few months for years now. Nothing brings my heart joy more than "Don't worry about it Batman, I got it over here OHHHHHH!"
@wallywest2038
@wallywest2038 5 ай бұрын
I’ve met Kevin. He is a wonderful great man
@thenightstocker4268
@thenightstocker4268 8 күн бұрын
Doing the lord’s work uploading these classics
@theianprender-cast3863
@theianprender-cast3863 15 күн бұрын
I’m going to download this and store it away so I can listen to it whenever I want. I’ve wanted to re-live it many times over the past 10-odd years.
@mychalmallen5434
@mychalmallen5434 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for posting these!
@cuneorama
@cuneorama 7 ай бұрын
Man, i wish kevin and ralph would turn their podcast into just talking like this and drop every tired recurring bit on babble on. I loved this conversation.
@renaissancemanmedia2404
@renaissancemanmedia2404 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely man. When Kev sits down on a podcast and talks nerd culture, it's great. When he's in front of an audience, it feels like he's trying to sell you something.
@frazmayne4139
@frazmayne4139 2 ай бұрын
I've tried to find this again on and off for fucking years!!! Hell yea
@uncharted9097
@uncharted9097 7 ай бұрын
Ralph is right Bruce becomes Batman because his parents were killed in front of him….he takes eight years off for a girl that wasn’t his girlfriend great movie but wow
@savvydev
@savvydev 6 ай бұрын
Batman stopped being batman because there wasn't any crime happening in Gotham. Dent Act put an end to major crimes. There's even a line regarding this when Gordon says something to Blake when he informs him of senator missing. And as soon as Bane is there in stock market Batman comes right away. So their point has no value.
@uncharted9097
@uncharted9097 6 ай бұрын
@@savvydev Batman does not and will not quit, I’ll give you the whole he got his back broken I mean he can’t fight crime but Batman will go to the grave fighting because of his commitment to fight crime in his city 8 years off is a hard idea to get behind but the movie will still amazing in every way
@craighicksartwork
@craighicksartwork Ай бұрын
It's far from great.
@SomeOne-ce1gf
@SomeOne-ce1gf 6 ай бұрын
I have been looking for this.....for years...
@renaissancemanmedia2404
@renaissancemanmedia2404 6 ай бұрын
Your search is over
@hectic105
@hectic105 6 ай бұрын
Dark Knight Rises was ruined by the twist. All other problems with the movie could have been looked past if not for the godawful twist which derailed the main villain COMPLETELY and replaced him with a character that was only in the movie a little bit and then dies in the most dull manner possible (they actually both die that way, as being shot by the bat bike is also extremely anticlimactic, maybe not as bad as just dying after crashing a car though…). I didn’t like the big gap in time with him not being Batman either. I know they wanted to do a Dark Knight Returns story, but it just felt jarring and isn’t at all what I wanted after The Dark Knight ended.
@blunderwomanthemyscira6224
@blunderwomanthemyscira6224 2 ай бұрын
So glad to see this on KZfaq again!!!
@jimmysaloka7030
@jimmysaloka7030 8 ай бұрын
Former Hollywood Babble Brother Ralph. They don't do it anymore.
@willie1886
@willie1886 7 ай бұрын
They still do it but not often because they are very busy especially Kevin but they still do Hollywood Babble On
@davidholguin2532
@davidholguin2532 4 ай бұрын
16:13 "Onetime I took pills Bruce...a lot of them!" 😅
@rogueprince1341
@rogueprince1341 6 ай бұрын
And this is why Kevin should bring back Fatman on Batman and rename the other show SmodNews or something like that but bring back the true Fatman show even though kev isnt Fatman anymore.
@michaeld1889
@michaeld1889 Ай бұрын
Agreed. I miss this format for the show. It used to be a must listen. I think, back in the day, I got into it around episode 10, but I would relisten to it over and over. So so many great interviews, and I loved the commentary tracks too. When they switched to news only, I fell off entirely.
@mrdamian1616
@mrdamian1616 5 ай бұрын
The animated movie, Batman Gotham Knight is supposed to bridge the gap between BB and TDK. So there is time and action between the two movies.
@budgethornet7498
@budgethornet7498 6 ай бұрын
One of my faves! I got into Kevin in late 2012 when I moved countries. This stuff kept me laughing in a stressful time!
@christopherducati
@christopherducati 6 ай бұрын
I remember listening to this back in 2012 good times
@TheProphessionalGeek
@TheProphessionalGeek 5 ай бұрын
Goat upload.
@cgdimension
@cgdimension 7 ай бұрын
i always got the feeling Nolan (Chris) wasn't totally invested in this one, probably just wanted to get it out of the way, maybe wanted to leave it on the dark knight which ended kind of open ended much like older batman films, not really setting up a sequel the way that batman begins did
@robertjackson9005
@robertjackson9005 7 ай бұрын
25:25-26:15 😂😂😂
@craighicksartwork
@craighicksartwork Ай бұрын
Batman should have taken an 8 year break after Bane broke him. It really was bizarre writing.
@dandino9521
@dandino9521 Ай бұрын
I always okay with this movie tbh but wasn't till I felt I hit rock bottom emotionally, mentally and heck even physically. Despite the flaws and of course script rewrites which caused it to have flaws...I liked this movie probably even love it and especially the trilogy.
@avace917
@avace917 7 ай бұрын
I live 10 miles north of the World Trade Center and I could smell it up here
@mbeland1114
@mbeland1114 7 күн бұрын
Thank you i appreciate it.🎉
@natturner534
@natturner534 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this, been trying to find it for years. This ep made me fall in love with long form content 👍🏿
@Jakehatred666
@Jakehatred666 7 ай бұрын
Joseph Gordon Levitt shouldve played Terry Mcguiness instead of pseudo Robin.
@spinoknight
@spinoknight Ай бұрын
1:04:08 sums up TDKR’s problems perfectly
@JasonOrtiz-ye1do
@JasonOrtiz-ye1do 7 ай бұрын
@2:52 ...yes it does Ralph. Yes it does 😢
@matterstoyou2970
@matterstoyou2970 7 ай бұрын
Never connected with BANE easiest villain to beat if you can take out his mask/venom. Yes; the character is an obvious challenge and has a fun mythos which is undeniable but he was still never one of Bat’s rogues I dug personally. Always know eventually somehow whether due to Bats or a cohort of the dark knights BANE’s mask will be negated, guess that’s why expectations were subverted at the finale and Selina just shoots BANE point blank which I’d argue neuters the character making the ferocity he achieved a “punchline” (pun intended) for Selina and her gifted Bat pod in the 3rd act nothing more. Easily stoppable opponent and Selina proved it.
@diogorccarvalho
@diogorccarvalho 7 ай бұрын
I love this episode. I laugh so hard with this
@renaissancemanmedia2404
@renaissancemanmedia2404 7 ай бұрын
Me too. I used to listen to this episode all the time
@George-de6hd
@George-de6hd 7 ай бұрын
I look at Batman begins and dark knight as one movie cut in half (like kill bill 1 &2 ) and it’s a masterpiece……and then there’s dark knight rises ….black sheep
@NoName-cz3wn
@NoName-cz3wn 3 ай бұрын
Bats taking the fall for Dent was NOT a plot hole. Every cop living except Gordon is corrupt. Dent was hinted at having dirt in his past. If he doesn't die the hero, the gangs would all be freed in 3 months. You can maybe say Joker did it, but Joker never tells the public one single lie other than the "how I got my scars" bit. I think a bigger plot hole is the idea that Joker went quiet for 8 years. I know its because of Ledger, but the real Joker would not ALLOW Batman to take 8 years off. He'd be blowing up an elementary school every day until Batman appeared
@TheShockVox
@TheShockVox 2 ай бұрын
Bookmark 26:49
@avace917
@avace917 8 ай бұрын
The 8 year thing was based on Batman retiring for 10 years in The Dark Knight Returns. Dunno why Smith didn't tell him that
@renaissancemanmedia2404
@renaissancemanmedia2404 8 ай бұрын
They reference that, but they both agree that the reason why he hangs it up for 8 years was not nearly as good as the reason in DKR
@avace917
@avace917 8 ай бұрын
@@renaissancemanmedia2404 I missed that somehow. BTW, DKR could be either but I know you mean Returns in this case
@renaissancemanmedia2404
@renaissancemanmedia2404 8 ай бұрын
@avace917 Oh yea, my bad. So, guess a batman question for you, but do you like the 8 year break he takes in Rises, or did you call bs like Ralph did?
@avace917
@avace917 8 ай бұрын
@@renaissancemanmedia2404 I actually thought that taking the blame for Dent's death was why he retired
@avace917
@avace917 8 ай бұрын
@@renaissancemanmedia2404 no need to apologize. I was just busting your chops. Hard to communicate that through text
@BraxtonWages
@BraxtonWages 7 ай бұрын
I was hoping that Joesph Gordon Levitt was the kid in the Narrows from Begins.
@renaissancemanmedia2404
@renaissancemanmedia2404 7 ай бұрын
Sadly, that was Joffrey from Game of Thrones
@MegaMacReal
@MegaMacReal 7 ай бұрын
_I FAilED YoU, I FAilED YouR SoN, I FAilED EvERYonE_
@BenjaminHeyman
@BenjaminHeyman 7 ай бұрын
I BUTTLEFUCKED IT!!!
@savvydev
@savvydev 6 ай бұрын
Batman stopped being batman because there wasn't any crime happening in Gotham. Dent Act put an end to major crimes. There's even a line regarding this when Gordon says something to Blake when he informs him of senator missing. And as soon as Bane is there in stock market Batman comes right away. So the point that he stopped being Batman because Rachel died has no value. He became recluse because of that. Stopped going out even as Bruce Wayne. But for fighting crime he instantly puts up the suit even when he isn't fully fit.
@gezbanks1277
@gezbanks1277 8 ай бұрын
Comedy gold
@thatguy4019
@thatguy4019 7 ай бұрын
To be true to the character, at the end he needs to kill Bruce Wayne and be the Batman full time. Bruce Wayne is the mask. Batman is his true character.
@film-maniac
@film-maniac 8 ай бұрын
The name Catwoman was never used in BATMAN RETURNS either.
@avace917
@avace917 8 ай бұрын
You know I never noticed that. That's really funny. 31 years later
@TheLineOfTheCentury
@TheLineOfTheCentury 7 ай бұрын
m.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mqehdrl6xJncips.html
@johnlossie467
@johnlossie467 7 ай бұрын
"I am Catwoman. Hear me roar." - Batman Returns (1992)
@pdmore123
@pdmore123 7 ай бұрын
@@johnlossie467exactly
@craighicksartwork
@craighicksartwork Ай бұрын
Straight up wrong.
@avace917
@avace917 2 ай бұрын
The guy saying nothing happened between movies forgot about the scene in Dark Knight where Ramirez asks why Batman hasn't shown up yet. Gordon's response was "hopefully, he's busy!"
@cmofficial794
@cmofficial794 6 ай бұрын
Horrible take. I wonder if he feels the same now after seeing how bad The Batman was.
@renaissancemanmedia2404
@renaissancemanmedia2404 6 ай бұрын
I thought it was awesome
@cowboyschad5x778
@cowboyschad5x778 5 ай бұрын
Wtf? The Batman was the second best Batman movie only under The Dark Knight
@cowboyschad5x778
@cowboyschad5x778 5 ай бұрын
@@renaissancemanmedia2404it was 🔥🔥🔥💯🗿
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