I'm wanting to add these Jim's Fan on my "17 FXDB streetbob.... It just comes down to funds at present BUT this will be installed ❗ Everything costs soooo much more for us that live Down Under 🇦🇺 😭😭😭😭😭😭 Safe travels 🙏❣️

What if you have a tuner plugged into that plug location in the side cover ?

Is it compatible with 2024 Road Glide 2024 non VVTI models ?

Would you recommend this device alone or also add an additional oil cooler to a 127 M8 Softail?

thank you very much sir.

Couldn't agree more Rene!

Thank you TCB! Just finding time when I can. Filming takes time, sure....editing takes forever. Consider....it takes me about 1.5 hours to produce 1 min of final video on average. Customers come first so i squeeze this in when i can.

And you sir have done some of the most extensive (and common sense) testing I have found on the internet. Thank you! I have one now and it works perfectly. Thanks again!

my 2020 flhtp has a fan

thundermax dont make for softails

HD want mo money no money for any parts they can include, but don’t

Because they know you'll be out of warranty when your engine blows up 😂

youre welcome

not sure about the instructions...but they can be emailed or downloaded from the JIMS website. I did place your horn in the trunk though. That bike runs great my friend....ton of power. cant wait for you to ride it. all the best sir!

thank you!

Thank you David! All the best to you sir...Love from Winder.

thank you for your comments and views sir. glad it works well for you too. all the best

Thank you sir!

typical with JIMS they have the details figured out. i cant say specifically how as i haven't installed one on a softail. all have been touring models.

cheers Rod! Thanks for the comment and view sir. All the best in OZ.

Glad you found a solution that works for you. All the best!

while that would cool the rear cylinder...its not an even distribution of air.

it very well could depending on your chg system. are you running battery delete with a capacitor to charge the alternator? If you have a healthy charging system, it shouldn't. on my old bike builds...like Stiffy the Bobber Panhead im running an S&S alternator case. With that, a battery delete system from Cycle Electric which is basically a volt reg to a capacitor so i can run lights from that. Also running a morris mag on it.

I haven't heard of or experienced that type of issue with the jims fan. 25 degree drop in that condition is quite a bit. the fan only comes on if the surface of the rocker box exceeds 140 degrees if i recall correctly. i would have to ask what and where are you reading engine temps from? if from say a PV, there can be different temps displayed. keeping the head cool and reducing opportunity for valve seat issues is a huge benefit. im also surprised to hear they wouldnt work with you....i dont know details of course it just seems way out of character for the team there. maybe give them another shot?

glad you found something that worked for you. thanks.

Good question

both are great options. i find that the fan has a quicker effect on head temperature which really is a critical aspect. we are trying to protect the valve train really, valve seats, etc. with the Jagg fan coolers i consistently see a 40 degree reduction in oil temp. a fan averages about the same however the head temp specifically stays lower with the fan. so i would say if you typically do long rides and want to reduce overall average engine and oil temp, and see very little traffic, go the oil cooler and fan route. if your bike stays cool while you are riding but you see traffic often and it really heats up then.....go the force flow fan route. it will cool heads immediately when you need it most. or...run both.

I cant argue with that sir. Every little bit helps.

sure. they have several versions. dont see why it couldnt be used on an evo

they have one. not sure if you "need" one with how yours is tuned and how you ride but, as a precaution it wouldnt hurt.

Jim's I am afraid this has been made

yes but we are so backed up at this time, i really wouldnt be able to swap machines around to do them for quite a while.

Not at all. besides. that disables one cylinder....the engine beats itself up. it wasnt designed for prolonged use and extended idle times.

@@KevinBaxter thank you Kevin-based on the negative and potential destructive effects on the engine, what was the purpose of offering this option by HD? Is this option available on the M8's or has it been phased out completely on all the new (post 2017) HD bikes?

@@schachat01 All M8s still have the EITMS feature this far.

the airflow is blocked in that area by the frame to a large degree as well as the tank, nacelle, etc. as these engines have gotten more modern, there is less of an offset front to rear cylinder. carb bikes were a far different story however, this also depends on exhaust, how the bike is tuned, etc. when we tune, we do so to balance temp. another odd thing...with close analysis, on average, a liquid cooled model has a cooler head temp on the rear. also...keep in mind, the factory engine temp sensors have always been on the front head. in any event, I've tested both locations and havent seen a measurable difference in the head temps mounting at either location.

I installed one on mine and the fan doesn’t cut on until it get close to 300 degrees can you run it manually without the temp sensor?

@@willwalker5594 I noticed the same thing after installing it on my 21 road glide. Was thinking I had issues, but obviously I’m seeing the same thing you are.

during long extended highway trips and 5 speed trans on twin cam, mine would sing at 3200 to 3500...and could run it all day long. once you ride there, you begin to realize how inefficient the engine is at 2000 to 2500. of course mine was built and tuned proper for that.

@@KevinBaxter thanks for your input!! I’m running a twin cam 88 bored to a 95 with 543 cams and a thunder max tuner and a 6 speed tranny. Sounds like I shouldn’t worry about running it at 3000-3250 rpms

The transmission wears harder lugging all the time in higher gears. I had my 07 96" tuned rich and never touch 6th till 80+ mph. Cruising at 4k on the highway with an exhaust turns heads, but I have no carbon deposits, I'm always in the meat of the powerband to blip around traffic, and there's never a spec on the tranny drain plug magnet. And much less on the primary, IMO. Also, for what it's worth, I'm a dealership technician and my hunch about the lugging comes from looking at cruise drives on a monthly basis.

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no such thing sir. mine is a BluePoint from snap on but i use it all the time. As Night King said...you can get lower cost ones from other places.

Yes :) Lowers 30F.

a wet head engine is not truly and fully liquid cooled. water is looped around the exhaust port. this is secondary cooling. that said...this would enhance operation of the wet head system as well as supplement its effect. so....yes.

Both id say.

@@KevinBaxter Thank you! and JIMS now making for softail w/ coil re-location kit...that's great news, thanks again!

Great question. The video was shot at 1am after a 16 hour work day. The transporter was to arrive the following day around 3pm to pick up the motorcycle for delivery to our customer in Ohio. I was exhausted so my plan was to install the fuel tank, seat and shoot video of just what you suggest the following morning...however, when I arrived back at the shop at 7am, the transporter was already here waiting and in a hurry. So, we had to get the tank on, go for a quick test ride and load it on the truck. Sometimes the best laid plans change out of our control. Thanks for watching.

I got the love juggs and they work ok . To be honest this unit good also . One thing i mention as the rubber mounts is a great idea as the vibrations on the engine is hard on fan bearing . I have fans and oil coolers on both SS engines and one is a SS 124 the other is a SS 143 both have had work done to them and the fans is a must for me in controlling heat as i keep a check on oil temps . I always suggest cooing fans and i avoid stop and go traffic especially big citys . . I ride two up most times and i found that can also push up the temps a bit on both bikes . If you dont have a temp gauge you may never even know how hot the engine is .

investigate features and benefits. the concept is simple....blow air on the heads. its the features, how it mounts, operates and looks that would help you make the decision.

Love Jugs look stupid. JIMs hands down.

i hoped to show that...refer to the first comment as to why I wasnt able to. thanks.

Ok develop and manufacture a fan for that price point abd I'll buy one...

Haha, he thinks we are still in the 90s. The cost of goods has gone up and 💰 buying power down.

​@@DanDoyo or maybe he knows when to call bullshit.

Its not at all as simple as that. There are a couple major high volume OE manufacturers I am aware of that utilize overseas manufacturing exclusively. There are 3 companies offering exclusively US made tappets but not all of their production or components may be produced in house...this i dont know for certain. Yes...I do know who these companies are and where some of their components or complete assemblies come from but I am not at liberty to say. JIMS is the only company I am aware of that sources all US raw material and does all manufacturing of their tappets as well as all components in house, and our Skunk Series tappets, in California. I have been there and have seen it for myself. Take a look at the JIMS factory tour video I did quite a while back. There is also a very low volume manufacturer in Canada. That said...there arent very many companies that make everything. Some specialize in components used in the production of other parts. For example....one company may make the roller, another the plunger, another the spring. This is no big deal because if it's a really good product, each of those components can be manuf to the buyers specifications then they assemble the components. Side note....just because you see "US Made" doesnt mean its a quality part. There are very high quality parts that are manuf in whole or part, overseas. I mean...a BigMac is made in the US....but that aint a quality piece of meat in my book. LOL.

@@KevinBaxter so order skunk works tappets.. got it

@@bullast2046 I will admit they are not inexpensive. However, I have seen the quality control, know for certain whats in them, each and every one undergoes strict inspection and testing, each are hand fitted, centerless ground, and to within .0001 of spec. Cheap aint good and good aint cheap. I'm thrilled JIMS makes them for me and since having them, I have been able to build engines with some of the quietest valvetrains I've ever heard. If they werent the best I could come up with, I wouldn't put my name on them.