WE'RE GONNA DO IT AGAIN!! Here is the stuff that I had to cut out of this one! Let's discuss how the Phineas and Ferb effect crossover completely breaks several episodes of that original series, including its greatest episode, Summer Belongs to You! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rZefYNKCzbrJhZ8.html

I feel those people who watch Milo without having seen Phineas & Ferb before would be confused as hell. As much as I love Phineas & Ferb, I think Milo shouldn't have relied too much on Phineas & Ferb characters and references and just focused on being it's own thing.

"Y'know, Murphy's Law used to be alot more nuanced and complex. Now stuff just explodes.' At least they're self-aware...

I feel what really ruined Milo Murphy's Law was the fact that eventually they began to rely on the shared universe of Phineas and Ferb too much. Before it was a standalone series but along the way it seemed too desperate to draw in the P&F fans that they forgot how to be their own thing.

Wander Over Yonder actually did a really good job with the endless optimist protagonist. Because they would either show how that opistim can inspire/cause conflict for others, or would become a flaw for wander himself. With his need to help becoming an obsessive compulsion and a detriment to himself and others

I like how one of doof’s backstories is literally just his mother saying “no”

Wow, Milo accidentally caused so much destruction, he accidently destroyed his own show

I never knew Disney XD was supposed to be the "boys" version of Disney. For me it was 1) Disney's cooler older cousin where the actual cartoons i liked aired and 2) I can't believe they killed Jetix

my girlfriend tried to get me into this show, and honestly, hearing about his dad sounds like that would make for a much better show. a story about a dude and a town trying to come to terms with this curse, and finding a way to use it productively as a goal is way more interesting than just "a day in the life of a dude responsible for millions of dollars in property damage but no one cares"

“Everything that can go wrong, will go wrong.” What a perfect summary of how this show turned out.

Hot Take: Phineas and Ferb's inventions disappearing because of Doof and Perry's interference might be the greatest running gag in history and I don't think people bring enough attention to it Like think about how there are 189 episodes and nearly all of them use this complicated gag, and it's not like a simpsons couch gag where you just come up with anything. It's a powder keg effect that builds up throughout the episode.

I still think it's hilarious this video has over 4 times the viewers than this show's most watched episode.

I would argue that Doof isn't as static as you made him out to be, given his growth as a father figure to Vanessa over the course of the show, giving her the childhood he never had.

A funny thing they could have done was at the end of every episode would be that after surviving a disaster Milo comes across a small annoyance like his shoe being untied or something that causes some kinda distress to milo

if i could change one thing about milo murphy, i would make milo guilty about the chaos he causes. in the show, he's so lighthearted and happy-go-lucky that he lacks empathy. if he just felt bad for circumstances out of his control, he would immediately be so much more relatable.

you know where Murphy's Law was handled well? both comedically and story-wise? in Ruby Gloom. the character Misery attracts misfortune everywhere she goes and she's pretty depressed about it, but all her friends still love her in spite of it. especially because in one episode we learn that the sky is always cloudy because of her, so when she leaves, the sun comes out. the very hot, very deadly sun.... so Misery's presence is keeping them all safe actually.

I feel like the reason this show couldn’t find an audience is because the target audience was also for Phineas and Ferb but that audience had grown up already and didn’t relate anymore

I think Phineas and Ferb being mostly happy and consistent characters the whole time worked because Candace was like the hidden protagonist of the show, she was doing all the development, and in a way the character we’re drawn to. Also the subplot with Perry and Doof. Milo Murphy doesn’t really have those, not as strongly, at least

I never really watched Milo Murphy's law, but personally I think the show suffered from a lack of identity. I watched the pilot episode and was immediately hit a overly strong Phineas and Ferb feel. It felt like a show made by two guys who really wanted to continue their previous work but had to move on against their will. Maybe I'm wrong though, but that's my guess, and the introduction of Perry and Doofenshmirtz also confirm that.

They should’ve made Milo the defensive character, Murphy’s law states that “anything that can go wrong, will go wrong” so he should’ve been constantly making it so that nothing can go wrong and failing at it or being anxious he was gonna inconvenience people with things going wrong

I just love Melissa's design though. It just reeks of personality! : ) EDIT: Also, it actually baffles me because the way to write conflict into Milo is right there. Have him want to be of help to others, but his Murphy effect always getting in the way, and Milo should always struggle to prove himself not to be just a walking catastrophe.

As someone who watched both shows it's simply because Milo, despite its good quality, was never as funny or engaging as Phineas & Ferb

Another thing about the P&F intro is that it established immediately exactly what kind of show it would be; a fun, goofy, semi-fourth wall breaky show about the fairly implausible being made possible in a cool and interesting way. Plus, it established the relationship between Candice and her brothers, a rather integral part of the plot, all within the first minute or so.

I honestly loved the show. From the theme to how positive Milo was. Anyone who went through everything he did would be mad or hateful but he was a sweetheart.

My takeaway from this video, at roughly the 20 minute mark, is that this show would be better if it had starred Cavendish and Dakota, while Milo and his antics were in the background interfering. I just want their convoluted time travel story to defeat the evil pistachios so Mark Hamill can stop yelling at them.

As a person who has literally never set an eyeball on Disney channel I can scientifically prove that although XD didn't get good ratings, it has way better shows. C'mon. Ducktales and Gravity Falls win alone.

I guess the ultimate issue for the show was that it was so much more focused on the concept rather than making memorable characters you grow to love.

I love this show. “Go Milo, Go Milo, Go!” “Thanks everybody that’s so motional!”

I just remember as a kid the trailers for it only said "wow it's new, from the creators of Phineas and Ferb" and didn't really explain anything about the show or what in the hell Murphy's law was.

It's also unfortunate that Ducktales 2017, TOH, and Amphibia all came out during that time because it feels a bit obvious the execs were picking and choosing which shows to invest their time in

Don't sell your character designs for 7 dollars, they're worth so much more than that

Thank you for putting "Waggle Dance" at the bottom of that chart. I was literally thinking today about how rough of a song that was

That part about the music really makes me appreciate Daniel Ingram from MLP:FiM. Guy wrote the majority of songs for all 9 seasons of the main show, all the tie-in movies/holiday specials, and the first three Equestria Girls movies, and just kept cranking out winners for that entire span

The other thing about Phineas and Ferb is that even though the world was static, their antics and inventions still impacted the world around them in some way that is slightly touched upon in a later episode.

Murphy's Law would have been far, far better if Murphy had reasonable amount of anxiety about the constant random occurrences around him (ie- he is a traumatized nervous wreck). That would be a basic investment- "I have to make sure that nothing goes wrong and messes up whatever mundane thing I am trying to do today". Thus, he has to go on an epic pistachio nuts defeating quest just to make sure he returns a book to the library on time before it is overdue because he doesn't have enough allowance to cover the late fees. Then, you can add in the fearless and optimistic character as the sidekick that pushes Murphy further along the winding path.

Just found out about and started watching Murphy's Law and I love it because I am a fan of when the actual Murphy's Law actually happens. The chaos of not knowing exactly how an episode will go until it happens- because I choose not to read too deep into kids cartoons usually- is just one reason I love it. Plus, I really enjoy Weird Als' voice acting, too. I can't say that he's the main reason I enjoy the show but it does help

Most of the problems you have pointed out in this vid was caused by the writers rushing in to MML right after phineas and ferb, making it so that they didn't have time to get used to the new story style.

Milo's permanent optimism really makes him boring and makes it hard to relate to him. A normal person has ups and downs. Even Phineas and Ferb characters had this to some extent but in MML it's totally lacking.

I wonder if the show would have been better if the main characters were Cavendish and Dakota instead of Milo and his crew. Out of the main cast, C&D are the only ones who look goofy enough to not be mistaken for background characters. They are also the only ones who go through character arcs and have conflicts between each other. You could shift Murphy's Law onto Cavendish, and now the show is about two time travelers trying to complete their assigned missions (that don't always involve pistachios), but one of them is extremely unlucky and always causes them to fail. This premise solves the issue of Milo not having any goals, as the duo will be given a different task each episode, and their over-arching goal is to gain the respect of their boss and get promoted. If you're wondering why I chose Cavendish to be the cursed one of the duo: there is an episode in which it's revealed that Cavendish frequently suffers deadly accidents, and Dakota uses time travel to save his life everytime. I always thought that this plot point would lead to the reveal that Cavendish is a Murphy from the future, but the writers never expanded on that idea. It just felt like a waste to me.

I literally still have Phineas and Ferb songs stuck in my head the fact that mml ones don't stand out is such a shame

Phineas and Ferb's weird designs are the reason why I kept coming back to watch the show back in 2012, it's so weird you just can't help but look at it and what makes it even better is that the show is weird af, and I love it.

I think this show would have been more interesting If milo actually been trying to end the cycle of Murphy’s law instead of just being resigned to it

I have to admit, the passiveness of the characters never really got to me until Doof came into the story. For a while it was funny to see his interactions and such, but eventually it just started bugging me that he kind of just became this character that was just well there, he was completely demoted to the role of a gimmick designed to attract an audience

As someone who's only maybe two years older than you, that you have not seen Kim Possible is hard to believe. It kicked off the career of Dave Filoni, who is now in charge of the Star Wars Expanded Universe, and is one of my fondest childhood memories.

You know I think I watched this show so much because it's my comfort show. What's more comforting than a show where nothing ever TRULY goes wrong and everyone is kind to each other??

As a major fan of this show, I see these a very valid criticisms, as well as a good dive into why the show failed to attract the massive audience Phineas did. I personally would rate the show higher, probably like a 7.5/10 for my personal taste. I thought Milo, though static, was still entertaining, Cavendish and Dakota had a great bromance going, and Diogee deserves all the love in the world. And though the humor and song departments didn't slap as much as Phineas, there were still all-time hilarious gags and catchy tunes (Chop Away at My Heart is one of the greatest songs in any cartoon and I'm not sorry). This show deserved far more love and respect, but it was clear that it was just trapped in it's shell, never quite blossoming to the phenomenon I know it could've been. I stand by the fact that most of this is Disney higher ups' fault, as a lot of their decisions lately have been downright terrible, which makes Milo's fate suck even more Good video, dude. First time watching but I like what you've done.

The only problem I had with this show is that my naggy adult brain couldn't quite relax into the premise because... it's an objectively bad thing to constantly be destroying yours and everyone else's environment and it was super weird to me how the show kept going out of its way to villainize anyone who acknowledged this??? Like, in Phineas and Ferb, we see the mess neatly and immediately being taken care of and it's clear that the actions of the protagonists don't negatively effect anyone. That's why we aren't on Candace's side; the boys' actions seem harmless. Whereas Milo seems to just make huge messes and bounce and we do see people kinda go "aw fuck now i need to deal with the fallout of this". Which made me be kinda annoyed when Milo is just like "Why would I try to stop it? I'M having fun". Maybe that's why people resonated more with like the security guard character because... he has a point. Even if there's no real danger, who wants to live somewhere that's constantly falling apart? And like am I really supposed to be against the people who avoid Milo? I feel like if I were in this universe, I would also not be ok with the situation. Phineas's friends get to come to his house and participate in whatever he's doing. No one around Milo exactly gets to consent to being dragged into chaos on a daily basis. Like no matter how fun and exciting the adventure is, if you had to endure that every day with no choice to abstain, it would be exhausting. Everyone's eventual "this is fine and actually preferable" attitude about it actually boggles my mind. Anyway, like I said, adult brain. I still really really enjoyed the show, but this aspect never stopped bothering me.

This video is freaking my bean cuz like, I LOVE MML. I frequently rewatch the whole show every few months and never get tired of it. And I can see your arguments are mostly valid, and I'm usually very picky about my entertainment, but something about this one just works in a way I'd need to put into words better. I really hope they get renewed, there's a magic to this show that I just can't get enough of. That said, amazing work with the editing and writing on this! Diogee is the best and you should say it

It's kinda funny seeing how DisneyXD was a fail in the US. But in LatAm DisneyXD easily overshadowed the Disney Channel. So much so that new shows were not coming to the Disney Channel but instead to DisneyXD.

When I had found Milo Murphy's Law I honestly thought that the show was brand new but no it had been out for 4 YEARS already. I really enjoyed the show and I still do, it was just *really* unfortunate to see how absolutely no one knew of this show.

I had an idea while watching this of how the story could be rewritten to be a little more interesting, following the "active character" thing. Namely, making it so instead of people in his family being *born* with the condition, it doesn't surface until they reach age 13, and it disappears when they're 44. Milo, for his part, was born when his dad was 44, meaning he never got to see any of the effects, and thinks it's all just an old folktale made to scare him into "preparing for the worst". Episode 1 takes place on his 13th birthday, and coincidentally the first day of school. Milo brings nothing because he thinks the Murphy's Law condition is a fake, and proceeds to get beaten over the head with his absurd wrongness over the course of the episode. Not wanting to deal with such calamity, he spends the rest of the series trying various plots to get rid of his condition, picking up friends over time (eventually filling out to the full cast). Naturally, he never actually cures it (except maybe in the big finale, that one really comes down to what sort of message the show wants), but in every episode he'd pull out a significant win despite the circumstances. Maybe this isn't enough to fix the show, but I thought it was a cool concept. Example episode pitch: Milo goes to a psychic to see if they can fix his condition. Unfortunately, circumstances lead him to a *physician* instead, one Dr. Saikich, pronounced like the pun that allows the most misunderstandings. And indeed, the episode is largely a series of misunderstandings as medical equipment malfunctions, things are misheard, and a series of lab animals go loose in the building. Milo manages to barely contain the calamity, and befriends the doctor afterwards. Sure, his condition isn't fixed, but he has a new friend and the checkup was taken off his bill, so things worked out somewhat well.

this was my second favorite show

Funny enough I think an anime, Shikimori's Not Just a Cutie, does the concept of Milo better. Izumi is a character who like Milo constantly deals with bad luck (Though not to Milo's comedic exaggeration) that causes him personal misfortune. From small things like a newspaper hitting his face randomly to larger things like a truck crashing into his house. While he is generally a positive guy who tries to not be a burden and help others cause he is genuinely sweet, his bad luck does cause him to feel frustration which feels understandable. He dislikes this aspect of himself and feels guilt at the burden he causes others, his girlfriend Shikimori in particular. He's a nice guy, but he is also human with ups and downs and doesn't no sell his circumstances like Milo which makes him more relatable.

Good video! And it made me realize why I liked Cavendish and Dakota so much and I didn't feel that same connection with Milo and his friends. Cavendish and Dakota had goals and tried to achieve them while Milo and his friends just, reacted to their surroundings. And something that does bother me is how even though everything can go wrong, will go wrong, everything always turns out fine all the time. One thing that really annoyed me is that in the episode Snow Way Out it almost seemed like they did something new. Milo didn't get to school on time, Melissa lost her bet, things actually went wrong. Until magic time travel saved the day and they magically got to school on time. It kinda makes no sense that Mr. Block let them keep their time vehicle even though they are banned from time travel. And we don't see that vehicle again in Season 2 so they only had it in that one episode for plot convenience. But whatever, I guess that's one of the reasons why I want another season. Because this show feels like it has a lot of potential if they let their characters develop with the story.

One thing they should have done with Milo Murphy's Law is do what they did in episode one. Make Zac the protagonist. First episode started off with Zac as the new kid, he is confused because everyone avoids Milo and gets roped into his shenanigan's. That was fine, it was fun even. But he got over it too fast and the majority of the episodes focused on Milo himself and not how Zac had to deal with being Milo's friend. He still had his moments, just not enough. Heck we've seen more instances of Milos room, than we have of Zac's whole house.

26:18, I don't know why, but this shot of our main trio in ball outfits, having this wide-eyed "Just a bit negatively surprised" face expressions, in front of a giant sign that says "The music is bland" is pretty funny to me. 😂

32:07 oddly enough, this didn’t age well. We’re almost 2 full seasons into The Ghost and Molly McGee, and there isn’t a single bad song. They’re all absolute bangers. Rob is such a talented dude.

I guess Murphy’s Law was so strong it managed to affect reality itself

My biggest problem with the second season of Milo Murphy’s Law are the countless fourth wall breaks. They’re good in moderation but after a while they get dull. There was one episode where they used the same one twice. I still love this show, it definitely deserves a third season.

Him: no one watched it Me: My childhood😢

I think a similar thing happened to legend of korra, and avatar the last airbender. The first part was near perfect, when it ended everyone wanted more so badly. When it got a sequel everyone started watching, but legend of korra just wasnt as good as avatar, it wasnt bad. It just wasnt enough to maintain viewers, i see a similar thing with p&f and milo murphy’s.

I watched Milo Murphey's Law when it premiered and the words that came out of my mouth was "This is just like Phineas and Ferb but without Phineas and Ferb." The artstyle, the cinematography, the script, all of them were too similar to P&F. If I wanted to watch P&F, I would just watch P&F. By the second episode, I was done with it for this reason. The funny thing is, the fanbase assured me that it wasn't fair to give this critique and that MML was nothing like P&F. Fast forward a few years, and it's revealed MML takes place in the same universe as P&F, what a shocker! I will admit, that overarching plot is pretty unique though.

the worst thing you can say about a piece of entertainment is that its "bland". entertainment is to evoke emotions. happy, sad, hate, etc. but if they are bland, they are not even evoke enough emotion to make the viewer hate it. that is worst than it being bad. because being bad enough to make people talk trash about it is still better than being forgotten the moment they look away.

In my experience as someone who likes music and was also not impressed by MM and the later seasons of P&F, the thing that made the songs good during the beginning of P&F were two-fold: there was a memorable and repetitive downbeat that you could follow (think the ticking at the beginning of "Watching and Waiting", or the intro to "Robot Riot"'s guitar riff that repeated a couple times before the lyrics kicked in) and lyrics that told a simple story without sounding like you were just speaking on the melody. The song was just often describing the whole plot of the associated characters rather than just one scenario within it - think "Squirt that Gelatin Monster" or "My Wettest Friend" (The Lake Nose Monster), or "The Moments When We Didn't Get Along" when Perry and Doof break up during the time-travel episode. And no, I don't know if these were the actual names, I'm just listing the lyrics that I'm able to remember because so many of these P&F songs were memorable. "Pic-a-Nic Bust" was just Candace saying "I'll bust them over there...or maybe over there!" Like we get it, you're trying to bust them, we have the formula down, you don't have to sing about it. The stupid "Sports" song was just someone singing in the most annoying voice ever about the kids not knowing how sports worked, which wasn't even the main plot of that adventure! (It was Candace in the 2nd Dimension after the movie adjusting to life after Doof was defeated and setting up the evil status quo with the animal agents). The scenarios that the music was based on also mattered, since P&F started very simple - we have a thing we're doing today, that's it. P&F started going down in quality because it started leaving that formula. Watch through even S2 onwards and you can begin to see the slow decline of the formula, how they start relying on BREAKING the formula over and over and over again to the point that FOLLOWING the formula starts to become the rare thing. Like I mentioned earlier, they had an episode dedicated to the 2nd Dimension where Candace and the others end up basically losing to Charlene and Doof, forcing them to create the animal agents thing to parallel the OG dimension. They followed Perry during his Canada adventure, they had episodes in the stone age and Chinese dynasty, and what even the hell was the Cheesetopia episode that was told in reverse??? When P&F started following Candace and Doof/Perry more than the boys because those two apparently became too boring, I started losing interest in the show. When Perry's original god-like powers where he could literally pull the tool he needed out of his hat at any time started disappearing, and he started having actual trouble defeating Doof by just getting lucky, I started losing interest in HIM - and he was my favorite part of the show! He literally just pulls a whistle that can summon a whale from nowhere in the 1st season. Like come on, that was hilarious. And he NEVER uses those whistles again. They started lingering on the jokes too long, bringing back tropes from previous episodes because haha it was funny then so it should be funny now, and they repeatedly start relying on breaking the 4th wall or referencing other episodes just to get their jokes in. Even the 1st season did this, but they just glossed over it. Candace mentions "I know I've done this 19 other times" in the 20th episode (10th, because two episodes fit into one) with the Phinedroids and Ferbots, and it's hilarious. No one acknowledges it, no one lingers on it, she just says it and we move on. Buford just randomly has an instrument on him in the first season and admits two seconds after he denies it "Yes..." he has it, but then it's referenced again later in the seasons and he screams "One day someone's gonna ask for some obscure musical instrument and I'm not going to have it!" and it...wasn't funny. It just sounded like he was genuinely frustrated. When the music starts following that decline, aka just being there to be there, or even just remixing other songs into the new context ("Go Phineas Go!" was remixed into "Go Candace Go!") to use the previous success as a crutch, it's annoying and boring. I remember that MM's "Rooting for the Other Team" song EXISTS and that it was Milo literally rooting for the wrong team to utilize Murphy's Law (the only interesting take on his gimmick until P&F come along to make a device that literally shoots his bad luck through a laser), but heck if I know what the downbeat was or what the lyrics were beyond..."Rooting for the other team!" "Chop Away at my Heart" was great because it was parodying the 2000 and 2010s boy-band songs like One Direction...but the problem with that is that boy-bands actually produce good songs - no matter how cheesy or "girl-obsessed" they're supposed to be. They have a repetitive baseline that continues throughout a song and they layer on a repeated beat for the verses that leads smoothly into the chorus. Zack complains that he's embarrassed about the song, and everyone acts like he SHOULD be embarrassed, but it was a genuinely good banger that had a simple premise: it was a cheesy love song with lumberjacks. It fell into a good key, had an excellent melody that was complimented by the harmonies, and it didn't try to sing about a scenario in the show. It wasn't trying to break a mold or fit into one - it was just there to be there. Anyway thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

it would've been fun if they used milos "unstatic-ness" to their advantage. Like trying to change himself despite murphy's law actively working against him, or when he used murphy's law to his advantage

When you say the art, jokes, and music are bland, I think a better description is "safe." The designs are people, not characters, not even caricatures. The jokes appeal to no one to offend no one. The music exists to fill in the void so no one is challenged. It's all safe, so it's boring.

I genuinely think the premise of the show AND milo being a passive protagonist would’ve worked if they committed more to the idea, making milo more of a force that the antagonist of an episode can play off of, and maybe imply something about milo that tells us more about him, just throw little stuff here n there ya know?

I find it very ironic how the intro of this show has the lyric ‘It’s my world, and we’re all living in it’ when really, Milo & his cast of characters are in the Phineas & Ferb world because they could never escape them.

Had no idea it weren't popular, I remember seeing it and liking it.

I loved this show so much when it was coming out but the moment P&F references were so much and eventually took over really grind me gears. I wanted Milo to stand on its own and grow to be better but they just made it “P&F featuring Milo Murphy .” It was the nail in the coffin for me

As someone who has never watched either of these shows, but keeps getting sucked into videos like this because of my Ducktales 2017 obsession, I feel like the biggest thing holding this show back at the conceptual level is the fact that Milo has already mastered his curse. How can he grow as a character when the single biggest source of conflict in his life has already been conquered? If we could turn back time and remake this show from the ground up, I would have Milo get his bad luck in the first episode and have to learn to live with it and work around it. And tie it into Cavandish and Dakota's time-travel shenanigans too. Maybe their time machine runs on something like the Improbability Drive, and Milo gets hit by a face-full of improbability exhaust. Maybe he tries to act like nothing's wrong and gets someone he cares deeply about (like his older sister) badly injured, motivating him to face it head on. Maybe he was a very adventurous kid beforehand and has to learn how to turn his backpack full of gear meant for hiking and rock climbing and white-water rafting into a means of protecting himself. Milo could still be the same optimistic, cheerful character he always was, and most of the "everyone gets along" character dynamics could stay the same. But now, they have a goal, something to work towards, and something to inject conflict and to drive the story forward. Each episode could center around something specific going wrong and the main cast's attempts to find ways to add failsafes or find something in Milo's bag of tricks to keep him and everyone around him safe. I could go on, but I think I've made my point. A show's basic is flawed because we meet Milo *after* he's gone through character development and conquered his biggest challenge.

"Boring" is what it comes down to imho. No stakes, no character motivations, not even a personality quirk to hold your attention. Every character feels the exact same: indifferent. You had a good idea about the world's unluckiest guy who attracts misfortune and what you decided to do was have the entire cast act like it wasn't a big deal. In an attempt to make Milo likeable MML torpedoed its own premise.

This show was forgettable but that opera episode was the best, I frequently rewatch it. Absolutely iconic

The main thing- THE MAIN THING- that would’ve made this show more appealing to me is if Milo as well as the antagonistic characters were dynamic and changed with the environment. Everyone else could remain static (on the surface), but not him. He grows tired of his state as a walking lightning rod and seeks to fix it, he delves to the point of near-insanity in the process. With every episode, you see him smile less and less. You might even have him close to snapping until his friends pull him out of it, agree to stick with him and they can face this all together.

Milo is the example of writing the MC as a side character.

TLDR: Milo Murphy’s Law didn’t get an audience cause of Milo Murphy’s law. That’s just the law for you.

I'm so glad you mention conflict. A lot of cartoons lately have this issue. A set of main characters who have no conflict and no disagreements are one of the most boring things you can have. It's unrealistic, it's too safe. And if they do, the bad characters are painted in broad strokes. (The bully archetypes used in Amphibia, Ghost and Molly Mcgee etc) More to the point, I just can't stand characters who always agree because the writers then have to rely on the events of an episode to carry both the stakes AND the emotional weight. A burden built for sturdier shoulders...

HOW did the main theme not get stuck in your head it's SO DAMN GOOD!

The end point about the cute dog made the 50 minute video all worth it. He is so little, and his nose is so very big

I think this show would be way better if Milo were more into damage control and trying to prevent anything bad from happening to his friends. And his character arc were more about learning to look on the bright side and to rely on others or ask for help. Like, he starts off the show trying to maintain his friendships with Zach and Melissa while also trying to prevent Murphy’s Law from harming them. By harming them, I mean like “oh no we’re camping and I dropped all our stuff down a cliff, I need to go and find it but they can’t find out or they’ll never want to be friends with me.” Or whatever. But eventually Milo has to ask for help from them because he’s in way over his head. And Zach and Melissa help him out. Like, 13:41 . What if Zach had said that line, right after Milo profusely apologizes for getting them stuck underground? That wouldn’t completely fix the show ofc but it would maybe make it just a bit better.

12:47 I totally agree. It's like an extended epilogue, or a season two. They're already confident around Milo's bad luck aura, and we missed the first season where they had to get comfortable with it, or the prologue where Milo himself had to learn to deal with it. Too much conflict, stirred with too little real reason, resolved far too quickly and without any fuss. Without fuss you don't get a good show, unfortunately. I'm still gonna have to binge-watch the whole thing all the way through though.

Disney XD is the channel you turn on when you are bored and want to watch Phineas and Ferb reruns.

for example big city greens is the entire opposite. It has a good story line and goal in each episode, and the main character Cricket learns something from a problem he started, and there is actually a meaning for each episode.

the show had an audience THE AUDIENCE WAS ME😭😭 weird al was one of my childhood idols and i was so upset when the show stopped making episodes

I feel Milo's should have been the inverse of Phineas and Ferb. Where the boys want to make the most of summer, Milo wants to have a normal school year. To make Milo less passive, he should have been in constant fear of Murphy's Law acting up so when somethinh crazy does happen Milo will have the goal of getting everything back to normal rather than just letting the crazy stuff happen.

Man, this video is like... all the issues I've had with MML over time actually put into coherent words. I love it. (No, but really, as much as I love MML, those stake and conflict and character issues really became frustrating over time, so it's fascinating to hear someone else talk about this kinda stuff) Also glad about someone else pointing out the part about Doof getting so much more of an arc than the MML characters. Honestly it never bothered me (in general) that he was so present later on, more so that all the plotlines he got really just highlighted how bland everyone else is in comparison :') Though less Doof probably wouldn't have resulted in better arcs for everyone else, given the other episodes. Oh well. Some additional things that have been bothering me about MML personally: - Songs: Other than all the stuff you already said, P&F also had a lot of, like, songs sung by the actual characters, and at least to me those are usually already more memorable than those by some nondescript offscreen entity (with some exceptions ofc). MML mostly had the latter, and for me those just kinda blended into one another over time. Other than the band stuff (and Elliot, shoutouts to him) MML hardly let the actual characters sing, which really is kind of a shame. - Character-wise, I think the first couple episodes started off really well, but like you said, they never really did much with some of the characters afterwards. The first couple episodes give off the impression that people like Bradley or Mort are actually going to be pretty relevant characters, especially with kinda setting up Bradley as a foil for Milo and whatnot (same with the Doctor Zone fans like Kris and Wally who were only background cameos after episode 10 or so). Honestly feels like they wanted to get the supporting cast introductions out of the way so they could start focusing on the overarching plot stuff asap :') - Similarly, the episodes also never really... mixed up the cast for the most part? Most episodes are really just Milo and Zack and Melissa doing something (A Plot wise), but other than Amanda and Elliot, nobody else really becomes the focus of an episode. That one season two episode (that I really can't recall the name of) was great because Mort and Chad actually had a little subplot for themselves, but that's definitely an exception. And yet at the same time they recycled the "Elliot is forced to spend some time with Milo and lowkey warms up to him" plot for multiple episodes while Bradley never got anything like that. Oh well. - Bradley in general (still my favorite character, love him) was super underused, and even when he got that permanent plant arm, that didn't really matter to anything other than a couple unfunny jokes. Suppose that ties into the part about the characters never really changing or having actual conflict between one another... but man. I was really hoping the plant arm would finally start off some proper arc or development for Bradley (and his relationship with Milo), and all I got was a season of lowkey ableist treatment for this kid that keeps making some later episodes really hard to watch for me because it hits so close to home. - And a quick little note on character design: Still can't believe they have several instances of characters looking almost the same (Mort and Chad, and Bradley and Kris as well) and yet they aren't even related. Just making them siblings would've made this so much less of an issue, but nah. Let's just have them look alike for no reason whatsoever :') And yeah, that's all that comes to mind, you pretty much said all the major stuff already. It's true though, as frustrating as some of this is, MML is still a pretty fun show that I'll definitely keep watching if it ever gets continued. If anyone's still reading this, uh... yeah, Diogee ftw. Good dog.

Well done video. I'm only halfway in, but you've already nailed just about everything that made me completely forget about the show after watching only a few episodes.

You made a lot of good points in this video and definitely helped me realize why I ended up dropping this show but if there's one thing I disagree with, it's the art style. I get that it's subjective but I think the art style and character designs is one of the best things about the show.

Absoultey agree with you 13:17 In Milo Murphy characters are passive, have no clear goals and only react to the plot (unlucky things randomly happening) In Phineas and Ferb the *story is driven BY the characters*: The kids make a new invention> Candace tries to tell their mom> Perry goes to stop Doofenshmirtz innators> Inventions and innators dissapear> Conclusion which is result of the actions of EVERY CHARACTER.

I think Milo Murphy's Law should have just been it's own separate thing. I think another aspect that killed it was a lack of unique identity. The show already felt familiar to start with, but it eventually became a Phineas and Ferb reboot, more or less. I do have to wonder if executive meddling had to do with it.

I liked Milo Murphy even more, my siblings and I always watched it

“There’s a hundred and four days of summer vacation!” Ow that hurts right in the feels

I remember seeing a trailer for this show once, I immediately got that „there’s a big hole“ feeling to it. Something felt missing, very big. And even when I was younger there I knew it would have ended this way

“The fandom is like seven people.” Me and my older brother are two of them. ☺️

I honestly had no idea Disney XD was a place where shows went to die. I watched Disney a bit but I would regularly tune into Disney XD and I was a little girl so idk how well they did with that gender marketing. Like seriously when kids at school would ask what channel I’d watch I’d say Disney XD instead of Disney. I had no clue it was that bad! I literally loved Kick Buttowski and Zeke and Luther I wanted to be able to skateboard so bad but I lived on a farm lol

I binged watched Milo Murphy’s Law, and it was good

I’m shocked that this show has Weird Al and he didn’t write songs for the show. I feel like that could’ve really helped the musicality in some way

You nailed it with all those points! I also want to add that a big part of why I dropped the show was because of how unlikable Milo's situation was. Phineas and Ferb were just 2 kids having fun and building crazy things and I wanted to be like them. Same with Gravity falls, Owl House, and Amphibia. All these shows were like an escape from reality for me, but for Milo Murphy's law it just sucked to have that power or be in his situation. So, my engagement with him was passable which slowly whittled away.

Waving through a window is soooo good! Great video, love your music taste

I think it's quite telling that one of the highlights of MML was that one episode where Dakota metaphorically sacrificed his alternate timeline self for Cavendish