Unusually helpful review. I hadn’t even thought about the spacebar issue.

Nice review. I kind of hate the spacebar implementation on all Alice layouts. I always feel like either left handers or right handers get screwed on each one. I appreciate you taking the time to point out your own experience with that. Thanks.

There certainly was a bit of hollowness to the sound, which is surprising because of all the silicone and foam it has.

Q8 is more faithful to the original TGR Alice with the staggered/bumped position keys. Could say they are paying homage to it, but the Feker definitely looks smoother/straighter.

I almost bought the Keychron, but I think that now I am going with the Feker Alice 80 instead. Update: bought the fekker Alice and I like it. Just a personal preference but I don't love yellow switches so I'll be swapping them out

It's interesting that the Q10 does not have the same spacebar positioning problem as it's sibling Q8 - I've been really enjoying the Q10 so far

The center spacing in Feker is more because of the design - there elevation in the center. For centre elevation there has to be a center line which is not touched by either half of the keyboard. In keychron, since there is not center elevation, and hence no need of central untouching line is there making it possible to keep the gap smaller. It has nothing to do with plastic or alumunium.

For developers, get Keychron Q8 which is more developer friendly, is able to press 'Shift+Command+F9' with ease without splitting your hands. Just don't forget to a shortcut key mappinng like Esc is pressed, any click on number becomes F[number]. 🙌 :)

Thank you for the comparison video between these 2 keyboards, i am considering to buy one of the 2 and luckily came across your video 👍

Keychron upped the ante with the new V10 Alice. Cheaper, full featured and with 5 nice fully programmable macro buttons. I'd like to see a comparison between that and the Feker.

Thank you. I got the Feker Alice for work and paired it with Epomaker Sea Salt Silent switches for work and love it. Now looking to swap my home board from a GMMK Pro brick to the Q10 but the pics look like the middle angles down a bit (the Q8 looked very flat), opposite of how your wrists naturally are. Have you had a chance to test the Q10 yet?

The q8 spacebar positioning is perfect for me, the thumb does not need to only be used for spacebar

Thanks for the review video! Starting my Alice journey with the Q10 for the fact that the aluminium body offers a bit more in terms of sturdiness and stability.

Really great review! Love the advice at the end about being comfortable.

Was really liking what I saw about the Feker Alice 80 until I looked at the position of Ctrl/Alt/Win - using that on a Mac will be brutal, much easier and consistent to put the Win key between Ctrl and Alt. Bit of a deal breaker.

I have the Feker/Yunzii Alice 85 ...it died within a month of use. It was the microcontroller and likely a $10 part, but they wouldn't replace it. :/ My next keeb will be a Keychron.

for me the extra key accessible by thumb is the selling point. It is not a flaw, it is a great feature.

Great review, well done and thanks.

I primarily use the left thumb even though I’m right handed but I just don’t like the function key placement on the KC from a design standpoint, it feels like a scuffed attempt at a thumb cluster.

i agree, the placement of the spacebars is crucial and for some reason they decided to put a key next to the right spacebar that i would never use but then makes this keyboard not work for me at all. my right finger would go where the fn2 key is... wtf are they thinking

What is the best Alice keyboard I can get with worldwide shipping right now? Does not matter the budget. Or something you can recommend me. I saw one for $400 a year ago and I loved it.

Funny thing, for people who use languages with special characters keychron is actually more ergonomic because if you switch your fn button with alt these special characters become way more accessible than on a standard keyboard, my wpm in my native language skyrocketed when i switched to Q8. Nevertheless feker is way better value proposition, and if not for that button placement i would pick it over keychron.

The Q10 solves the spacebar issue, and the Feker Alice75 has an aluminum body. So strictly based on typing ergonomics, do you prefer the angled layout of Q, or the curved layout of Feker?

Difficult choice, but I think I'll go for a cheaper, better sounding board over something I can flex on my self with.

Keychron had a horrible case ping unmodded. I would not call the amount of rattle "slight" on those stabilizers either, but it's all subjective in the end.

Aesthetics wise… That large space on the Q8 between the windows key and left arrow key bothers me

Super detailed review with quality camera work and commentary, thank you very much. God bless. Jesus loves you!

Can you remap all the keys on the feker and can you create more layers?

Plate mount VS Screw in stabs... It was Keychron all along.

Sadly without Numblock. Nice Review! :)

For left handed user considering the Feker, you can actually do a little mod by cutting off part of the casing around the left space bar (the two tabs that fill the gap) to fit a 2.75u keycap in it. That will give you more length for your left thumb to press on.

Hey romsicle! The Alice 80 has a slight tent to it. Has this made the keyboard a bit uncomfortable to type on by any chance?

Thumb position is the main factor for me too.

anatomically Keychron has the right space bar (not touching the B). it seems your fingers are shorter and it may be the reason why keychron is not comfortable for you

is it possible to use gateron low profile on this? I kinda want it to flat like laptop keyboard

I like metal housings, it’s sadge that so many of them end up sounding super hollow out of the box

How about using mac os? Mac os needs 3 modifier keys to the left of the space bar. Control-Option-Command.

thanks for the review.. was thinking about the feker board

what does 65% gasket mean

feker alice 80 can be configured with via sofrware

The Q8 has 2 fn switches. If you are a programmer, would recomend just buying the Q8

The alice 80 also have 2 option for the switches. Yellow and feker matcha

holy smokes the feker sounds 1000x better stock!

What is the name of your lamp on the monitor?

Can someone explain how you press the "~" key on those keyboards?

When is Feker making a F key Alice! ❤️

100% that q8 spacebar placement is a problem

Feker is made by Epomaker?

LEFT SPACEBAR FOR BACKSPACE !!!!!!!!!!!!

4:16 You forgot to mention that Feker also has north facing LED's for those people who like North Facing LEDs so their keycap legends illuminate better. Yes I understand that a lot of people like south facing LEDs but there are a lot of people who like North Facing LEDs and they should know that Feker makes those types of board too. 😁👍 Also before I forget to mention it, Alice keyboards only has 1 major problem. There are no Function keys across the top row of the numbers keys. Many people like myself would love to have function keys across the top and not having to press a special key while pressing another key at the same time just to press a function key. (for me) thats really annoying. Im sure many others feel the same way, while also having other people who dont want them. There should be an open to have them when purchasing. Thats the main problem I have with Alice Keyboard. Anyways, I like FEKER best because their keyboard is more streamlined and has more features and their LEDs are brighter.

These boards are hideous.. no wonder they are so cheap.. they look like it..

um apparently the feker alice 80 has via compatibility as well... but you need to contact the taobao seller for it, and need a wechat or qq account to access the foler