Thanks! Will do!

I feel like the start should be more professional and the bloopers should be at the end of the video. Great video overall tho 👍

Agreed! They're the best content!😂

​@@pixseliousnah. They're brave enough to show their flaws!

Thanks

If you have pinboard (or just a piece of scrap plywood or cardboard) and some bit of paper and pins, you can build a model of the arms and hub carrier (as seen from above or below) and watch how it moves as you steer the hub. It's a little weird, but it works as long as the two arms pivot very close together on the hub carrier.

@@brianb-p6586 thanks will try it out.

KIA/Hyundai/Genesis very CRAPPY e-Gimp platform is still too much ICE vehicle Based. the e-Gimp was originally to have a ICE, Hybrid ,FCEV and BEV versions, on same Platform. the e-Gimp has too many FASTNERS and too many Brackets holding more Brackets. the e-Gimp Platform is Already OUTDATED in 2024. Hyundai group needs NEW BEV platform that is 100% for BEV, not ICE or anything else. w/ LEAN Design. using Gigacastings in FRONT & REAR , + Structural battery pack w/ 4680 Cells. and 48v.

The first car was built in Georgia.😂

​@@markplott4820What about Tesla, which uses batteries made in China? CATL

@@user-ui6lo1ub8f - TESLA w/ LFP batteries have been proven very RELIABLE , and cheap to maintain.

Thanks dude.

Appreciate it!

Glad you enjoy it!

Jordan loves hosting videos!

Very few modern vehicles use fixed-body calipers - sliding calipers like this are normal.

NO, weren't you, Listening. KIA built too HEAVY, too complex w/ too many ICE vehicle parts , Built too EXPENSIVE . NO , built in COST savings. complex Build. lack of Gigacastings , Structural battery pack & 4680 cells. lack of Discrete modules @ each axle using HIGH number of CAST parts , rather than OUTDATED Stamped Steel Weldments. lack of CAST cross car beam w/ Multiple functions. outdated Suspension , NEEDS independent 4 wheel w/ AIR dampers. KIA is still using OUTDATED horse & buggy Technology.

You can see alot of places where the rust will come fast and some components are low budget but it's an expensive car.

My line of thinking was the same. It is probably less expensive to source one wheel type if it is also used uncovered elsewhere

@stephenkramme7063 My thought was that they probably had to finalize the wheel design to the manufacturer much earlier than the wheel cover. So they might not have known the entire wheel was going to be covered then.

Or a customer may choose to leave the wheel cover off to display the wheels.

Doesnt matter , its attention to detail by Kia , have things correct and right , for your customer , make your customer feel valued. Small things like that add up over a whole vehicle , to make you feel like you have bought a quality product.

i would just have avoided the plastic hubcaps all together. the wheel looks better without it

No plans at this time to teardown a model 3.

Inside EVs reported that ~50% parts are changed! Production delays at Fremont indicates its a new vehicle.

Model Y is even MORE profitable than NEW model 3. let that sink in. Model Y is MOST profitable SUV on EARTH.

@@markplott4820 Thanks for the reply.

The level of production modernization came at great upfront cost. It pays off when they're able to sell at lot of Model Y's, but times are finally changing. They've already cut back production and will likely need to cut production back further, increasing unit costs. I'd guess they're margins are growing quite tight, especially with how frantically they're changing demand tactics and trying to sell software subscriptions. Frankly, thinks aren't looking great for Tesla as of late, especially after they put the "$25k" model on hold.

Kia has 11% margin. Tesla 9%.

@@johangustavsen6962 - Tesla outselling KIA 10:1

The chassis-end of the control arm also allows the arm to pivot a little, so the whole thing (chassis, knuckle, front arm, rear arm) forms a 4-bar linkage.

​@@bikeaddictbp Indeed. The Germans, (BMW, Audi, and Mercedes) have been using the same systems for 2 decades now.

Lots of cars have those. They're mostly to hold the brake rotor in place on the assembly line. They can be left out afterwards (e.g. if they break, or if the head has to be drilled out to remove it ... been there, done that). The brake rotor is still well clamped between the wheel and hub, and it isn't going to escape.

Munro took the underside panel off for this video.

I think he meant number of models not volume of cars.

Sure, can you get us one?

Good point! I haven’t seen one in the US, but am curious on their technology, comparatively speaking. I think many Americans scoff at CCP China engineering, now (like how Imperial Japan was underestimated until the US Navy got a good dose of Japanese Naval aviation at Pearl Harbor) but I suspect that they are capable of being able & even excellent.

@@user-fu8vn7xo6c The Japanese Zero A6M2 was a one-trick pony - maneuverability as a result of inferior engines. Totally outclassed within months of Perl harbour with superior firepower, structural integrity, engine power and armor of the Hellcat.

@@waynerussell6401It took until 1943 for the Hellcat to be introduced. Also, don’t forget the Japanese torpedoes that were used at Pearl. Can we afford to always underestimate the engineering of CCP China & have history repeat itself?

@@MunroLiveI keep on forgetting that the government of CCP China likely subsidizes reverse engineering, but not the U.S. government.

Nope

That's the way I think of it. If it works for them, so be it!

This isn't that kind of review. Like other KIA videos they have done, Munro has shown that KIA isn't wasting money on R&D and cutting edge manufacturing techniques when they don't have to. They have proven their reliability and they build on that. Instead they are putting the money into customer-facing qualities like beautiful design, lush interior, and detailed paint. KIA has a reputation of making the most efficient EVs (which this clearly won't be), with high customer satisfaction, high reliability, and super long factory warantees. Basically, KIA has a very conservative approach when it comes to manufacturing and an aggressive approach when it comes to design. Although their sister company Hyundai is even more aggressive when it comes to design language. And is there really anything even remotely like this in the competition right now? That alone may make it worth the sticker price (which is sure to be large) for some buyers. And if you choose the Hyunudai version for more futuristic looks.... KIA/Hyundai wins either way. So the question is... would you rather own a vehicle that wows engineers because of new new new of the manufacturing... something that will only really impact you as a customer in terms of more expensive repairs and replacement parts... or would you rather own a vehicle with more conservative manufacturing and proven reliability? 🤷‍♂️

@@patreekotime4578 All well and good but people buy EVs and avoid buying EVs based on reliability, repair bills, and operating costs. What will happen when there is an electronic, computer chip, or battery problem once the warranty ends? Are cars, like computers, now disposable products? If so, these cares will only be bought by the rich and by those conned into buying them. Back to my question... is the Kia EV9 good or not good?

There was a lot of Toyota mentions in this video. That's generally seen as a good thing to say about a car for a reliability, easy to repair stand point. Munro is all about cost cutting in manufacturing and it was interesting that they didn't nit pick this so much in that regard.

The Chinese learnd everything about cars from forced technology sharing 😂

@@mrm1885 The Chinese have overtaken everyone in two rounds in recent years, you are out of date (:

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😂 why not give stilts or high heels 🤪 to Jordan

Damn, don't murder the guy. 😂😂

Different models, which is what they're talking about- that platform versatility.

@@jamesengland7461 exactly, when they first said that comment, I was like... really? I thought Tesla would have the most. I just looked it up, they have the Kona, Niro, Soul, Ioniq's, EV#'s, Genesis and I'm sure I left some off. Their new lineup of EV2's 3's 5's are just around the corner. They've come out swinging with different models. Hopefully they'll start pumping out more of the actual released EV's so people can actually easily buy them. They seem to be going with a, throw everying against the wall and see what sticks mentality. I don't think they expected some of the cars they released to be liked so much by the reviewers for their looks. It's as if they're trying to please everyone with at least 1 of their cars.

@@Somethingaboutthat Ioniq 5, Kona, Niro, Soul, all have had ICE variants so not on exclusive BEV platforms. The group are not all-in on BEVs as still planning on making twice as many cars with ICE than BEVs in 2035.

kia ev models

​@@waynerussell6401 The Ioniq 5 doesn't have an ICE variant, it's a ground up BEV platform, one of the E-GMP platform vehicles mentioned in this video. You're thinking of the Ioniq, which is a completely different vehicle, and is available in ICE hybrid and EV.

They're not exposed until you remove the covers, as Munro always does in preparation for these videos (so we can see the parts).

KIA EV9 is too SLOW , too HEAVY , too INEFFICIENT , too short RANGE. its built too Expensive & Complex.' its NOT taking advantage of NEW Manufacturing like Discrete CAST Moules for Axles. no CAST cross car beam w/ Multiple functions. not using any Gigacastings , Structural 4680 battery pack.

That’s as high as that lift goes.

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What part of the suspension will be scratched up?

@@packetattack7437 I'm talking about the wheel covers and wheel arc covers.

Kia-Hyundai is Korean

@@ralanham76 я знаю. Интересно разобрать китайский машина

They're options more relevant to customer desires than anything else.

FWD is very OUTDATED Delete . all need is RWD & AWD. even TESLA RWD can drive in snow & ICE.

Munro & Associate's opinion is not of any value on this subject. Their expertise is in manufacturing methods and costs, not vehicle performance.

@@brianb-p6586 - MUNRO , also does Vehicle BENCHMARKING & performance in Separate videos.