MYTH-BUSTING INTAKES! DOES AN INTAKE ON A G20 M340i MAKE ANY POWER?!

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MYTH-BUSTING INTAKES! DOES AN INTAKE ON A G20 M340i MAKE ANY POWER?!

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Hey Everyone,
In today's video, we're myth-busting intakes! As we said before, we want to be 100% honest with our testing... and today, we're being brutally honest. In this video, we will be doing 3 baseline runs and we will be averaging them together. Then, we will be doing 3 more runs with the intake installed. Now, to be transparent, the car was limiting power a little (perhaps torque limit?), so the test isn't 100% accurate, but I think this still shows a pretty accurate view of what to expect. Most people buy intakes for looks and the incredible sound and they know that there are typically minimal gains, so most of you won't be surprised by the results.
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@llkjjjss 4 жыл бұрын

This series should be called Brian looking for reasons to play with his new dyno lol

@davidbell6341 2 жыл бұрын

lmao

@MicahAnderson41 4 жыл бұрын

really wanna see high flow vs catless downpipe compared head to head with a tune

@varsity2845 Жыл бұрын

High flow Catted in my M340 was faster due to back pressure of the cats. Hard to believe I know but it was night/day difference when I went catless to AA Catted

@FastRedPonyCar Жыл бұрын

@@varsity2845 S5 Audi is the same way. Basically no power gain from catless unless running bigger turbo(s)

@deontesthill20 Жыл бұрын

Turbo cars do better with no back pressure so that’s false

@Just1MoreMod 4 жыл бұрын

Ahhhh, Transparency. It’s so refreshing to see. Props to Kies 👍🏼

@jpbredenkamp5091 4 жыл бұрын

This is such a cool series, I love it man!

@The_Diesel733 4 жыл бұрын

BMW airboxes are very well made for performance from factory so it's pointless to upgrade them unless you want it for the sound and the show factor

@patthonsirilim5739 3 ай бұрын

At factory power you get no gain what so ever the stock intake was design perfectly for the factory power level you may get a few couple of hp with drop in filter when you start flashing the engine but intake mods only come into play when your talking about big power mods like turbo swap and built motor.

@Flysohighx21 4 жыл бұрын

Just my opinion, you guys should have done one of the dyno runs with the hood closed for a real-life simulation. The intake is not really heating soaking as the hood is open and the fans are hitting that area. But nonetheless still a good test!

@munners0852 Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't agree, if the Dyno was doing draggy times the heat soak would be relevant. Once a car is up and moving the cooler outside air soon clears the heat in the engine bay around the intake. If anything the reading is probably less as the fan speed doesn't increase the faster the wheels are turning on the dyno. I could be wrong and the fan speed creates an air flow like you're going over 100mph.

@glennbaz2 4 жыл бұрын

I must say any research I've seen there has never been enough gain to make the purchase and labor worth it.

@llkjjjss 4 жыл бұрын

After a stage two tune it will be worth it

@sggjose 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but that "WOOOOOOOSSHHHH" is totally worth it. LOL.

@rodgazinya 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely no labor costs if you have even the most basic mechanical knowledge

@prevaloir5362 3 жыл бұрын

I feel as if you plan to do a stage 1 or above tune you should just upgrade the intake pipe and that's all in terms of intakes.

@valeriyGennadyevich 4 жыл бұрын

BMS intakes shows usually power lose due to it open design.Thats why I think all you need is a drop-in perfomance filter with a stockbox, and save your money for a full intake system. Thank you for your honest video. Much respect 👍

@richie9172 4 жыл бұрын

Thats what I did on my M2C, plus charcoal delete. Sounds is way better.

@dylan-nguyen 4 жыл бұрын

Сюткин Валерий mst is closed box but you do it for the sound anyway lol

@velhonen Жыл бұрын

@@dylan-nguyen Eventuri is closed as well.

@osman3605 4 жыл бұрын

Hi We need more video on G01, specially the bm3 part on adjusting the exhaust sound, please

@TommyLGarage 4 жыл бұрын

Love this!! I need to come down for some product testing :)

@carsinourdna9388 3 жыл бұрын

Love to see your honesty, that is hard to find. great video.

@gabrianloarca6050 4 жыл бұрын

Closed box intake is better on the car. (B58 Specifically) My 340 heat soaks big time because the turbo and and exhaust manifold are on the same side as the intake causing the intake to suck up all the hot air while hood is closed. Closed box intake is the way to go.

@hassantalib3426 2 жыл бұрын

HEAT WRAP AND COAT THE DOWNPIPE.....THAT WAY HEAT ONLY HAS 1 PLACE TO GO......OUT THE EXHAUST ....PLUS THE BENEFITS THAT COME ALONG WITH WRAPPING IT....LESS HEAT THROUGHOUT THE ENGINE AND WIRE BAY PERIOD....MORE TURBO RESPONSE TIME AND POWER

@fastbladeproductions7961 4 жыл бұрын

You should also drive around for 50 miles so the computer can readjust to new changes... then test it..

@jpbredenkamp5091 4 жыл бұрын

Fastblade Productions Agreed. The ECU won’t know to add more fuel to the additional air the engine is receiving right away. In fact the addition oxygen mixed with the SAME amount of fuel would throw off the Air Fuel ratio and likely decrease power. This would be amazing of Brian to test as well, the “myth” of does your ECU really adapt to the mods (which in my opinion, yes it certainly does)

@GodKing804 4 жыл бұрын

Or reset adaptions

@MitchM240 Жыл бұрын

That color is gorgeous, is that Dravit Grey?

@readmposter 4 жыл бұрын

Mythbust an intercooler! 🙏🏻

@bmw_knight_f3052 4 жыл бұрын

Brother!! I been waiting for your videos to come out.. lol.. I like you input and you honest answers... love your dyno video bro. 😎👍

@cryptojb1920 4 жыл бұрын

Brian, please upload the F30 spacers video!

@llkjjjss 4 жыл бұрын

My dude I'm glad I'm not the only one waiting on that

@chingadazosmma101 4 жыл бұрын

I did my M335i's intake and immediately noticed loss of torque -even on MHD S2 - but better top end -As long as ambient temp is BELOW 70F- honestly the awesome intake noise and blow off are the main reason to keep it.

@Timilias 4 жыл бұрын

Cool video, but I see one issue - you keep the hood open which allows more fresh air in. What makes the open intakes not good (safe for those that have closed - or at least semi-closed like MST design) is that they sit right above turbo, exhaust manifold and downpipe - which is a massive heatspot which is then trapped by the hood.

@duncanmykocinher3831 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Bryan you provide continually great content. Can't wait for my spoiler to arrive and oh this video made me buy this intake

@Devinarde 4 жыл бұрын

Mythbust intercoolers next, please!!

@davidryans2232 4 жыл бұрын

Kies is freaking great - love the videos, Bryan

@ArtemDzhadzha 4 жыл бұрын

There was no myth :) intake only reduces the vacuum before the turbos. It makes a lot of sense for naturally-aspirated engines because of more airflow, but turbo engines build the same boost regardless of the intake. What it gives is a better response due to less restrictive airflow. With the intake, it's easier and faster to suck the desired amount of air. It becomes even more tricky not to lose power with the intake because very often people just put open cones under the hood and they suck very hot air.

@TheYung25 4 жыл бұрын

Do intercooler next!!!

@alw757 4 жыл бұрын

pretty sure the intake is messing with the airflow dynamics over the MAF sensor, sending wonky reading to the ecu and cutting power accordingly. not sure about the b58, but on the n55 the stock air box has fins to direct / straighten the airflow before it reaches the MAF. I haven’t yet seen an aftermarket intake that integrates these airflow straighteners

@huzaifavawda8383 7 ай бұрын

G series has IAT and no MAF

@Kai240i 4 жыл бұрын

I think the small hp gains are just from the filter element, not from the actual intake box. If u just stick a hi-flo filter in your stock box, you'll make the same gains.

@valeriyGennadyevich 4 жыл бұрын

You just copied my post :(

@Kai240i 4 жыл бұрын

@@valeriyGennadyevich sorry i didn't even see your comment, i just comment what was on my mind for the small hp gains.

@shubdeepsingh8376 2 жыл бұрын

@@Kai240i is there anything recommend for g20 330i?

@alexvan1337 Жыл бұрын

@@shubdeepsingh8376any recommendations?

@TheDailyDriver 4 жыл бұрын

AFE DROP IN FILTER NEXT PLEASE!

@rdbetta 4 жыл бұрын

You bro we needed this man THANKS 😊

@thestimp1 4 жыл бұрын

Your hair grew a damn FOOT in a year.

@sheharyarirfan 3 жыл бұрын

I think the gains would be amplified on a higher boost car. Say on E30 map. I would like a comparison on that instead of a stock car on low boost

@Brunovd99 4 жыл бұрын

@kies Motorsports hey, have u allready tried to set the dsc on the car off, normally u just press the button and it says deactivated... but if u hold that button the car will turn the dsc off.. it's for sure a lot more fun on my rwd but maybe it helps u guys out. best regards

@berkperformance 4 жыл бұрын

They perform the runs in 'Dyno mode' it automatically switches off DSC completely ;) (See previous vids)

@_Forever555 4 жыл бұрын

They should also try it with XDelete.. maybe that might help with the power cut off

@GodKing804 4 жыл бұрын

Now do N55 stock intercooler vs aftermarket. Does more flow mean a tiny bit more power?

@JoshNormandy 4 жыл бұрын

BRYAN, PLEASE MAKE THE F30 SPACERS VIDEO!! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE 🙏

@amessad 4 жыл бұрын

Intake is always tricky o the dyno.... it is probably the only add on along with ic that needs actual speed on the road to perform and the open hood with a flimsy fan does not even come close to actual on the road conditions interns of real time airflow.... if that makes sense :(

@raganyang4968 4 жыл бұрын

Yes sir..real world numbers vs Dyno numbers..I prefer street tunes myself as that's what the car actually does vs a Dyno which just shows number..both have their pros and cons for sure

@richardzarate5250 8 ай бұрын

love this transparency 🔥🔥🔥

@adamscottv 2 жыл бұрын

Do the Dinan.

@Streamlined955 4 жыл бұрын

Your results seem in line with conventional thinking. If you go into the BMW forums a significant group think that there is ZERO benefit from intakes. So a small gain sounds about right. Although, it’s possible that out on the highway at 70mph plus there is a greater benefit. THAT SOUND IS UNDENIABLY AWESOME THOUGH!!!

@daveburgess7684 4 жыл бұрын

Thinking 4 horsepower more

@nicholasvonrhine6311 2 жыл бұрын

The factory setup is pretty good.

@mikedonovan7947 4 жыл бұрын

Loving the M340i content!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@derekfriedrichs 4 жыл бұрын

Once again, this shows time and time again, that intakes dont do much, infact, I'd go so far as to say: that car will have a slower 0-60 time. A clean new paper filter with the engineered intake is the way to go. Most companies really cant hold a candle to the BMW engineers.

$@Cliffracer46$

@Cliffracer46 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video Bryan! What about sport air filters? In my country intakes are illegal. I guess air filters don't add anything apart from a little sound right?

@corvairluver 4 жыл бұрын

Would love to see what an Eventuri does to an F80. I'm looking to get one for my F80 and would love to know what I could expect.

@cokemachine62590 4 жыл бұрын

It’s pretty much the same as any other intake. It’s just much more expensive cause carbon fiber

@scottroberts5529 4 жыл бұрын

Are you guys gonna do a boot mod ecu remap on ur next video on the m340

@HassanEido1 Жыл бұрын

Should have logged wastegte duty cycle to see if the turbo had to work less to make the same boost. I think gains will show on the top end with boost around 22 24 psi

@artesano58 4 жыл бұрын

Mate, it sounds better than my f80 M3, sounds amazing!

@JustAwesome2020 4 жыл бұрын

Great video but can you please try a different intake

@tonyv7589 3 жыл бұрын

Should do a test on a tuned car ,,3 runs stock box,,3 runs open intake ,,,tune plus boost may get more benifet from open intake?

@luiscorona552 4 жыл бұрын

No tune? Good numbers

@whazzlegaming3856 3 жыл бұрын

Great video!!!

@tractioncontroldelete 4 жыл бұрын

///Myth Busters 🤟 Loving this

@JRHOMEVID 4 жыл бұрын

So ....... the big question is ... which I find wasn’t that clear in this video 🤔 does the intake give you any gains ?

@ChristianFantana 4 жыл бұрын

He says it at 5:11. 4hp

@ArtemDzhadzha 4 жыл бұрын

yes, it gives, not power but response. it reduces vacuum before the turbos, so turbos faster and more easily build boost - that results in a more pleasant response. But that comes in the cost of more sand attack compressor wheels

@ChevyFlora 4 жыл бұрын

haha not really. NOT the 16-20hp gains MST claims to give haha. I have this intake in my car. Purely for sound at this point.

@llkjjjss 4 жыл бұрын

Four HP

@bmwsincekid 4 жыл бұрын

JRHOMEVID no it doesn’t

@owenlee9474 4 жыл бұрын

Intake sounds good... does it lower air temp? My tuner says the cold air intakes don't help m235i due to bad airflow from the grills. True or not?

@ArtemDzhadzha 4 жыл бұрын

You can put scoops that will help a little to push fresh air into the intake. But to be sure you suck the air from the outside and not from under the hood, you should keep your intake boxed to eliminate any air suction from under the hood. And even after all of that, you won't get colder air. "Cold air intake" is more of a marketing name that means the air is sucked from outside. Properly designed factory intake will suck the same air of the same temp. The only downside is that factory intake is more restrictive. It puts more vacuum before the turbos, that's all. But the benefit is much less sand and much less damage to compressor wheels

@carsinourdna9388 3 жыл бұрын

I wish you do a dyno on BMW F30 N55

@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow 4 жыл бұрын

I think intakes on most BMWs are worthless.

@derekfriedrichs 4 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@sekouchill 10 ай бұрын

You’re judging all BMWs and all intakes off one vid is kind of wild

@danielwilliams214 3 жыл бұрын

Wonder it the car was hitting tq limiter. Might need a xhp trans tune to raise the tq limiter.

@bryans2790 3 жыл бұрын

What is the change in sound with the intake? Don't care much for additional hp.

@puttitat2851 4 жыл бұрын

If you have a 4wd dyno, why not just dyno it 'regular' mode and not dyno mode? That should work just fine. Does on a rolling road anyways. :)

@dylan-nguyen 4 жыл бұрын

puttitat2 dyno mode is a car test function. Without it you will get tons of car errors. Rolling road dynos are less accurate which is why they got a dynojet

@PhonesOnaDailyBasis 4 жыл бұрын

Tune. It need tune

@josesanchez3327 4 жыл бұрын

Do your F30 PS2 dyno vid!

@ryanreich7635 3 жыл бұрын

Since it's X-drive could the T-Case clutches be slipping?

@jackchn23 3 жыл бұрын

Can’t you put that thing in “drift” mode, and it will only be two wheel drive?

@kc2213 Жыл бұрын

Why is the car only revving to 6k rpm?

@pikkagtr1942 4 жыл бұрын

intakes on BMW turbo engines are mostly for looks and sound at least this intake didn't heat soak and LOSE power that's really all you can ask for

@llkjjjss 4 жыл бұрын

Mst has a pretty nice heat shield

@joshb1275 4 жыл бұрын

What color is that dravit?

@AD350z 4 жыл бұрын

Do a RWD one too 😅

@in54ne82 3 жыл бұрын

I bought a drop in filter what a waste lol. Not sure if itd make a difference on a n54 engine

@1Bigduff 3 жыл бұрын

I wonder what the dollars spent per horsepower gained are. is the expense really worth only a couple HP or so? just a thought.

@Viktor9502 2 жыл бұрын

It’s not worth it for the power, but it’s worth it for the sound.

@ottobong 4 жыл бұрын

I KNEEEEEWWWW ITTTTT

@richardq6539 Жыл бұрын

ehhh id lose some power to have a better turbo sound..

@raveutcars 4 жыл бұрын

doesn't this thing rev to 7k?

@ArunVijayaraghavan 4 жыл бұрын

First to comment...great to see all these before and after videos

@andynguyen7261 2 жыл бұрын

that going to hurt the engine because you rung hight RPM that is not recommending to manufactory from BMW....

@nicohagl 4 жыл бұрын

370 I would say

@steveb540i 4 жыл бұрын

OK so stock an M340i has 382 hp by BMW's conservative rating. You modded with a high flow downpipe and an exhaust and lost performance? Then added an intake which did little more than make the car sound better (assuming you like more turbo spool noise). I appreciate your honesty, but what does that really say about these performance mods that should be bumping up the hp up a little?

@KiesMotorsports 4 жыл бұрын

BMW's number is to the crank, what we measured was to the wheels. Normally, you have about a 15-20% drivetrain loss when you rate it from the crank to the wheels. Although some mods don't add a ton more power, sometimes they add different sound, etc, which some people really like, even if it doesn't come with large gains