Aarekk I brought this today, I only brought the 2nd edition months ago but FOMO got me. I guess I can still sell my 2nd edition to make room on my shelf.

This is my first copy. It looks great. And it has the favorites people missed from the original Krakken and Cyber Bunny. The Dark theme looks incredible!

@@Teremei Yes but is better to play withouth power ups? The thing that upset me is that here monsters are back to their original form: identical each other, withouth any gameplay difference.

I thought the same thing, I have played 30+ games and have seen only maybe half a dozen end by points

I am thinking if buying or not this game. Me too I prefer much more this aesthetics, and me too I am wondering if with power-ups is a better game; to me it seems the answer to be yes, it's a better game. It's nicer to differenciate monsters by their powers... But at the same time it appear to me much less dynamic, with too much thinking going on, which is not the reason this game got so famous in my opinion. I think I'll go for this dark edition without any power-ups!

ScytheNoire too bad the cards are flimsy... and when sleeving the cards the insert will be too small. They never think about sleeves...

TimofKings This game wouldn’t need sleeves though, right? You never really hold the cards in your hand.

@@alecgalbraith5604 This is light enough to be a family game. Which, inevitably for some of us, means both kids and adults handling these cards with greasy fingers. So even if the contact is limited, I prefer to protect my cards from dorito fingers. Especially if I'm shelling out for a limited edition.

J Aitken good to hear. My copy is in the mail.

@@jasonsulecki4265 lol not many know who this little guy is. 👍👍

@@maxwellschultz4784 coffee roaster

The more colorful monsters are compatible with this version too. So if you'd rather play with the brighter, goofier monsters, but still like the wickedness gimmick, you can.

i did. you dont need to get it, usually in board gaming, most things are not a necessity. Basically, if you are a fan, then get it, and if you want to simplify the power-up aspect of the game, then get it. Wickedness track just makes it more streamlined.

I see no issue on why you couldn't use the expansions other than the Halloween customes.

The wickedness idea really changes the game. I didn't have any of the series before, but this one is just so great I think you will really enjoy it! And if you don't it's limited print so it will retain some value

Do you want to play with other characters from expansions and have it look like they belong together? If you don't care, this sounds like a good version to get. For me, I'm staying away because I enjoy all the other characters and I wouldn't like having some look like this cool aesthetic and others be the cartoonier ones, which I also enjoyed the look. I mean, this game has always been much sillier, so I always felt the original art really suited the game.

Hello nintenbro

I feel you. I purchased Labyrinth in January. In July, I was at a gaming store to pick up D9 dominoes and I saw they had the glow in the dark version. Had I not already purchased the normal version, I'd have purchased this version instead. The glow in the dark feature is neat but not enough to justify the purchase of a whole new game.

@@raineyhayes3821 THERE'S A GLOW-IN-THE DARK LABYRINTH??? I gotta check that out.

Agree, the only real choice between this and the original is the artwork and upgraded conponents. The wickedness track is just a more streamlined power up expansion. I'm still on the fence but I might just buy this version cause the cover looks good

You choose which side you want. Red is recommended for first game, green or mixed red/green later games.

jumpyg1258 Pretty much every game with dice has less desirable options when you roll. That’s why you can re-roll. Also, there are some cards that make rolling 1s and 2s more advantageous.

I liked in the King Kong expansion with the introduction of the towers , give you a reason to roll four 1s.

LOL!

Anyone would keep 3's lol

Played a lot of Dark edition with a lot of different groups. I also played a lot of King of NY and original King of Tokyo with/without expansions. I would say this is my favorite game. It has a very clear and distinct feeling to it: you feel rewarded by playing the game and pushing your luck no matter what strategy you pursue or what tactics you try. Staying in Tokyo still worth a lot especially in 3 player and 5 player games. Rolling 1 points and 2 points dice doesn't feel like a waste anymore. In fact the wickedness cards are a great balance mechanic. Energy is still worthy for the upgrades, but we play with 2 separate decks from which we draw 2 cards: evolution (keep) and discard cards. You can alter the number of placed cards until the game feels ok. The game is a total blast with any group.

Comic Carnival Pandasaurus is a Dice Tower sponsor. They put out that game.

They stay with you and only you and the effect applies for the whole game. So, it's sort of like a power-up card, once you claim one, nobody else has that power but you.

Also interested in this

Same

Presumably a sponsorship

Silver & gold is a nice dude, very chill and dresses nicely. Plus I like its sense of humor.

notsaved Pandasaurus is a Dice Tower sponsor. That’s one of their games.

True... but... one of the great things about the Power Up cards was that each monster had a unique batch, so it made them all a bit special until themselves. Also, we have a house-rule in our games where if you get 3 hearts for a Power-Up card, you don't also get the health from those dice... you need to pick.

@@KabukiKid well I mean, power ups are a comeback mechanic, if you make it a choice it defeats half its purpose.

@@KabukiKid if I get the dark version and buy the power ups would that be too over power? Too chaotic?

@@endoutaiki3217 Good question! heh I guess you can give it a try and see how it plays out. :-) I don't know from experience. Maybe people have already tried... check the BoardGameGeek forums for the game, maybe?

Same here, I have played this game a lot and very rarely does someone win by points

You can still play with the power up cards.

if you want to simplify the power-up aspect of the game...the wickedness track is basically power-ups > simplified and streamlined for simpler play. I love it. I'll always play with this one. On the other hand, if you really want to throw in the power-up cards, they are pretty much compatible with the dark version, so there you have it.

As with all new editions, it mostly depends on how much you enjoy the game vs how much money you can afford to spend on a slight upgrade. If you have another game you have your eye on, and a limited budget, you'll probably want to get said game instead. Personally I am tempted, and probably would have gotten it. But current circumstances have me being a bit more frugal than usual. So I might have to bow out of this one, as cool as it is. The slight rule tweaks, and the dark art style just aren't enough on my currently limited budget.

I would say yes since you're already thinking of buying it. Do it for the upgraded components.

Not to necro a 1 year old post, but the 1st player can't attack, claws do nothing on the very first player roll, you don't move into Tokyo until you settle dice actions. So in that scenario what should have happened is p1 gets energy/vp/wickedness, and has to move into Tokyo. p2 hits 5 claws, but has to target p1 in Tokyo, so he does 5 damage to p1, and p1 can retreat or stay and p2 has to move into tokyo.

In the groups I've often played the game with, it's often reasoned completely different: Why bother rolling for points if I can beat up everyone "easily" before they get to 20? This is especially true when playing with 5 or 6 players, because 2 monsters in Tokyo focussing on attack can easily dominate point gathering players as those are now forced to roll for hearts and are less likely to get points or to attack back. Most games I've played go into a phase of beating up players until 2 or 3 remain, after which either someone can win by points easier than the other 2 can damage that player or a player can push enough damage to remove the other player(s) from the game. And even with such a solidified metagame in our groups, it's often not boring because there is an inherent 'push your luck' element that makes it exciting for us. How greedy can you be for remaining in Tokyo? Can you risk defeating a player in Tokyo while you are on 4 health and the other players outside Tokyo are both at 1 or 2? etc...

I always go for the kill. I win every time

thats when u stay in tokyo and wail on them forcing them to stop doing that or die

That's more a problem with your players than with the game.

20 is farther than 10, and you need a minimum of 3 dice to score them. If people kept winning through points in your games, your group is too passive.

Yes, DT is primarily for 2p, this is for more players.

Yes it’s different enough.

They’re both Yahtzee variations. If you love the Yahtzee mechanic, there’s enough differences. But if you’re lukewarm with DiceThrone, I don’t think KoT will change your mind about the mechanic.

Diego Osorio it's one of my most popular games, is your group heavy euro gamers?

What’s a euro gamer?

If you see someone collecting VPs that puts a target on their back. A lot of times when I get higher VPs I get savagely attacked by everybody.

VP is a noble win, it's a harder win.

@@benjaminspears8488 I don't see, how. If you are collecting VPs while avoiding going into Tokyo or going out as soon as possible, the only player, who can harm you is the one in Tokyo. And you can mitigate harm by them by collecting Hearts as well.