honestly the more hours i put in the more i feel you also have this in kh3 its just a lot harder to be safe which is both fun to master and a little frustrating

You can guard mid combo...

​@@slotmoondoesnt matter if there are so many enemies from all directions that you could never react in time.

@@demp11 Get behind them. That's why there are so many traversal options in kh3

First, you can cancel outta your combo any time you want. Second, don't go full melee against 10+ monsters. The game gives you aoe attacks for a reason. You'll be obviously interrupted like this.

It's a shame there's no actual resource management tied to Transformations. Makes them feel less earned and more "give me" by the game.

@@DaniNyoMH Think of it as a "Skill Tracker" you need to be on a hot streak of combos to transform, get cold and you'll never fill your form Gauge up. even if you don't activate the form change, it lets you know how good you're doing in a fight. and then you have Keyblades like Oathkeeper (used in the video) that have TWO transformations before reaching the finisher. So if I were doing a data battle, or something, I can still win the fight, but never filling the Form Gauge, should tell you "That was a survival test, I most definitely was getting my a*s kicked" especially on harder difficulties, these transformations let me know "Oh im getting the f*ck in right now" ill use 0:12 leading to Double Form as an example, just so satisfying.

@@13thNobodyprod.no you don't

​@@DaniNyoMHone has to be built up threw combat to use, the other uses a meter that can be refilled with items...huh?

@@beezlefee One has to be properly managed. You have a set number, each drive requiring different amounts, so if you have 9 drive gauges, you can valor/wisdom/valor back to back. Limit/Master twice in a row. Or Final/Limit back to back. Or you can use it on summons. There's SO much more thinking involved to KH2's drive gauge system as a resource management vs waiting for the combat bar to fill to have about 30 or so seconds of a keyblade transformation. 60 if it has two states. One lets you activate it on command when YOU want, the other you have to wait until the gauge fills, unable to start a fight with one if you wanted (in a completely blank state, not running off to pregrind two form changes stored) Just actual ignorance on game design with this comment.

your eyes are too slow then, you need some Kiroshi or somn, chrome up.

I won't say Re:Coded is peak KH, but it's the 3rd best combat system, only behind KH2 and 3.

Peak and based. KH3 is pretty grate but Iv never played a game with better combat since KH recoded 3’s combat would be perfect if it somehow integrated recoded combat

Nah man has a point he's cooking.

Re: Coded would be perfect if it wasn't stuck on the DS. The d-pad limits it

Re:coded is the best command deck game in series easily

For real tho people out here be hating and glazing all over kh games.

Speaking as someone who very specifically went back through KH3 multiple times with an eye for giving it every opportunity to win me over, it just isn't there. A combination of combat that is too floaty and full of screen nukes and instant kills and a story that just falls over itself with needless subplots and cringe cutscenes for multiple worlds in a row. It certainly had its moments. I'm a big fan of Toybox and The Caribbean was fun. But no, overall it just wasn't a very good game. I'd sooner replay Re:Coded for the combat than KH3. And either of the numbered titles before it were vastly superior, on numerous fronts. I don't regret my time with it, but I won't be going back either.

Btw, I'm not, by any means, trying to underestimate your opinion nor sound like a smartass but I think I've played KH enough to point out all pros and cons in basically any KH game, at the point there's no better game than other in the series, just games you do or don't vibe with because you grew up appreciating certain aspects in a game that only it had (like the hack n' slash kind of combat from KH2 everyone seems to love but only it used like it did, out of like 10 different games in the series).

@@marioa.7180 Sadly, I have to disagree with the notion that there's no such thing as objective quality metrics in KH. I can get behind the statement that there are games you enjoy more or less on a subjective level (I quite love Re:CoM, personally, but would never claim it was a better game than others in the series). There are indeed some facets of game design that some entries in this series just simply objectively do better than others (things like combat and world design have numerous objective measurements, the aggregate of which could result in a subjective opinion but which taken individually are measurable). For example, 358 Days/2 had a downright rudimentary basic combat loop. You could mash the attack button and occasionally press y for a branching combo. There were 3 attack styles that had their own timings. That was it. In comparison, the abilities in KH3 added ways to convert an air combo to a ground combo, vice versa, finishers that worked on distant enemies, attacks that hit around you, etc. etc. It can be said truthfully that KH3 had more complex combat than Days. The subjective question is whether or not that complexity is better than what Days had to offer, and in this example although it is possible to claim you preferred Days to 3, I certainly don't think so and I'd be skeptical of anyone who claims they did. The key thing here is that combat was never the main strength of Days, that was always it's story and character writing. A subjective evaluation of a whole game is the sum total of how one feels about every facet of it taken as a whole. Which is why I can like Chain of Memories even while acknowledging that it's a grind-y broken mess. All that to say that for me personally, the only measurable aspects of KH3 that truly eclipse its peers are graphics and sheer world size and even it's indisputably better graphics are held back (for me at least) by an excess of particle effects and flashes etc. More to the point it doesn't outclass any other game in the series in almost every metric the way KH1 and 2 do. It only really has 1 or 2 things it does well and even those have caveats, so I think it is fair to say it is not as good. That is not, mind you, to say that it can't or shouldn't be someone's favorite. I'd never claim that, everything is someone's favorite for any number of reasons but that's no reason to completely discount any sort of quantitative or qualitative analysis.

@@orochimochi905 You talk as if KH1 and 2 didn't try to be as flashy as they could, only limited by the year and hardware they were released in. KH1 doesn't have more depth than BBS or DDD (first game for a reason) and KH2's depth comes only from the fact you have to scroll through the command menu to chain attacks (giving little margin to do long combos or else you screw up) while in KH3 you can asign shortcuts to do all that (or not and play just like KH2 players do). The rest plays basically the same, design and all but with little diferences. Plus, those games' combat isn't devoid of criticism. I can name just as much cheesing strats, oversights, etc, in each one of those games, as people do with KH3.

how? KH2 doesn’t have that many particle effects to be considered flashy. Kh2 combos are faster and and aerial combo finishers have downward momentum to bring you to the ground faster. Not to mention, in KH3, if Sora is fighting an enemy in the air he will NEVER touch the ground because attacking an enemy after a combo finishes brings him upward. Whereas in 2, after the combo ends, he falls immediately. Objectively, you’re just wrong.

@@coloryournight i dont think youre understanding or know what objectively means , im not staying for a fact it has less or more , im saying _in my experience_ i _notice_ it more in kh2 . i dont know how a personal experience individual to me can be wrong but sure i guess

​@@coloryournightTwo words, reaction commands. They appear more than once, all you need to do is press a button and Sora will deal a whole HP bar worth of damage while JoJo-posing at the end. Crazy how it gets a pass but Attractions don't. Plus, you can't do all that crazy shit you see in combo videos until late in game. At least KH3 has NG+ to help with that.

@@marioa.7180 I think the difference between reaction commands and something like attraction flow is that RC’s are intertwined in the combat better. RC’s are built with certain encounters in mind, they are usually quick too or how you end the fight anyway for a flashy finisher. (that doesn’t ruin combat pacing.) RC’s feel better to use in fights because it’s specifically made for that certain fight, whereas attraction flow is long, drawn out, and completely unrelated to the fight (besides maybe, the train and the rock titan) and makes some fights lose their tension due to 1. the silliness of it, 2. how long they last and their invincibility frames

@@coloryournight How? You press triangle and watch a mini cutscene play until you can move again and most quick RC (in boss battles) only serve the purpose of changing phases whereas KH3 does that naturally. Attractions draw for too long because they were made to deal with mobs and appear like once in boss fights that have like twice more HP bars than KH2 bosses to help you drain them out quickly in case you didn't know how to deal with them (a help). Plus Attractions don't have I-frames outside of the finisher and "being silly" isn't an excuse in a series where you can summon Bambi and Stitch with an ukelele to aid you in combat.

Don't be reductive like this 'cause we can do the same with old games. Sora barely advances with his search in KH1, at least until he arrives Neverland (third to last world). Riku doesn't count 'cause he appears and disappears at will. In KH2 nothing happens until you arrive Twilight Town last visit (second to last world). The middle point leads to nowhere and its twist gets ignored after you leave the world. Now people will say "you're just ignoring everything leading to these events, you dumbass"... Yeah, just like people do with KH3.

​@@marioa.7180I'm willing to defend KH3 on a good amount of things. I'm even willing to admit people go WAY too softly on KH2 considering its problems. But this just ain't one of them. KH3 isn't the worst KH story, but it's rivaling 2 in quality control

Sorry but you know little if all you see is a long combo instead of the fact Lan chained 5 mechanics to extend the combo while defending themselves from Aqua's attacks.

play on something other than casual mode

@@JDerpyDoesStuff playing on proud mode. Same thing

@@daves7086 then that must be the only button that works for you

yea, its the attack button...

@@daves7086 Gotta get a new controller then

dumbass statement, both have deep combat, you just sound like a casual trying to downplay kh2, both have deep enough combat system.

Because sometimes less is more. KH2 had less systems overall but it was much more refined and balanced. Shot locks are just free damage, nothing interesting about them. Most form changes don’t feel as satisfying as drive forms do. The combos in 3 feel slower too, not too mention that magic overall has less utility than 2 with most spells being damage based projectiles. I still somewhat like 3, but 2’s foundation is better. I think if a middle ground between 3’s and 2’s combat is reached we’d have the best gameplay in the series bar none, as some things in 3 I do prefer (such as moving during magic, cancelling combos with guard/roll, and keyblade swapping.) but for now 2 still reigns supreme for me.

Kingdom Hearts and Dark Souls have the exact same base gameplay mechanics.

me when i cast blizzaga on the fire demon

Stuff like this gave me motion input vibes wtf

I still don’t get the “too flashy” thing, could you explain what that means? I simply fail to see how particle effects affect combat.

What's not to get? Not everyone wants to see the fourth of July while grinding for lvls or items. There is such a thing as over compensation. And kingdom hearts 3 is a perfect example. When you attach too many bells and whistles, the final product suffers.

@@stevenpaul2113 wut?...

​@@milk8979basically when a game cares more about how it looks compared to how it acc plays kh3 is the result. Its not particularly bad but kh3's combat takes away a lot freedom that kh2 has and replaces it with gimicy rides and other sorts of gameplay.

​@@stevenpaul2113 Until the flashiness doesn't make the combat hard to read, it's just up to personal preference. For example, i think FFXVI flashiness makes the combat *way* harder to read.

If only the game had a mechanic that literally teleports you near the enemy... some kind of Airstep... Btw, aren't you forgetting the combo modifiers added for free that literally improve base Sora combat?

@@srlion7050 bro hasn’t seen the kh2 combos 💀💀💀

If you think that, you’re probably bad at KH2 & KH3

​@@-Anonymous-. Kh3 has the most creative combat system, if you know what your doing and store your KB transformations you can literally make your own combat style, I don't know what these people are smoking but KH3 combat is superior to all others

@@keenanjackson2668 trust me I know. The creative combos you can pull off are insane. The player has so much control of Sora. KH2 functions the best, but KH3 has way more player agency, creativity, & improv. It’s so fun

@@-Anonymous-. Its sad that people just don't seem to see what make kh3 combat so good, people seem to knock the combat when then real reason why a lot of people say its bad only really come from the fact that it didn't have some of the things that the first two had, like visiting each world more than once for story or exploration purposes, the tournaments at Olympus that added to the end game content and gave players a reasons to keep playing and griding, not making Twl town into a full world, and the weird way they handled the end game in the KB graveyard was what made KH3 lacking, so it just weird how people attack the combat of this game

Hi

Welcome to every KH game ever except for 1, and even then your main button is X

You say that like KH2's combat isn't just 'spam X and occasionally add in a square here or there'.

Isnt that like.... Every game in the series-

@@Chibi_Rikka only if you are the type of player that only spam x and uses cure only

@@arde5849 Uh, not really. Both KH2 and KH3 are primarily played by mashing X to hit, and knowing when to not mash to dodge or block. KH2's one difference is that you can pepper in a square every now and then to do a different attack. If we're looking at both on a surface level. Sure you can claim one is better than the other if you choose to look at one on the surface level and in depth at the other, but that's.. dumb. They both have depth if you choose to explore it.