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Eh Kings of War was decently popular, at least I assumed it was since it was, for a time it was basically the replacement for Old Warhammer when it got replaced by AoS, I remember some people ranting and raving about it.

@@luketfer it still is quite popular. it will not rake in 40k numbers because it doesn't have a billion video game adaptations but it's quite popular all around and is the go to solution for most rank and flank players

Bruh, I’m about to make it 51. I love the idea of Rank and Flank games.

The 80 people who attended Crossroads GT would like a second count of those numbers 😗

I definitely prefer KoW, surprisingly I don't really like alternating activations in rank & flank games. Probably go with whatever has a local community tbh

@@Themasterstools Oh hey! Didn't realize this comment got a response. I am a wargaming neophyte so I will definitely check out the local scene before committing to any given game. Thanks for the advice!

You can use the conquest minis in KoW. It really is an excellent challenging competitive game.

You should. it's a great way to use models that might not get love in other games. And if you have AoS/Fantasy armies then you already have KoW armies.

@@omnivision616 literally this. KoW single-handedly reinvigorated my hobby, when I found new use for my old models. Oldhammer is so done for me, and I never really got into 9th Age. Kings of War is fantastic.

Kings of War pretty much started the same as one page rules as alternative system and cheaper models than the gw systems where you can use your gw stuff.

@@bradp6452 Exactly. Which is why onepagerules would be such a great topic for the guys at playon

I absolutely do not understand

@@willpenn966 In the interests of helping: If a unit takes one or more wounds in a turn, they'll have to make a Nerve check. This is 2d6 + Wounds versus their Waver/Rout stat, which is usually written as, say, 13/15, though some units have a gap of 3 rather than two and some units (including a lot of undead) don't have a Waver value. Beat the corresponding value and the unit Wavers (cannot be given certain orders, including any aggressive ones) or Routs (is removed from the table). A double 1 is always safe for the unit, a double 6 always Routs. If the unit is Inspiring or (more commonly) there's a character nearby with Inspiring, they can elect to make their opponent roll again and abide by the second roll. Personally I'm not a huge fan of double sixes always Routing. If I do one damage to someone's big board centre Horde, there shouldn't be a 1 in 36 chance it just vanishes.

@@Thoughtsmith That's because it isn't as harsh as that -"If you roll double six when testing Nerve and the enemy unit is not Routed, it will still suffer from a result of Wavering, as insidious news of defeat starts to spread through the ranks."

@@diabolicusmortemere8169 I'm so glad someone caught that. I know a dwarf player who owes me a rematch now.

@@Thoughtsmith ey it happens, had something similar happen to me with an artifact doing way more than it should have at a small local ambush tornie. Funnily enough that one thing pretty much lost me the game and meant I placed 2nd. Sometimes if something seems too good or harsh it usually isnt in the rules in kings of war haha!

I disagree. I think they look really fine. But you actually do not need to play with Mantic minis, if you do not like them. Mantic is not forcing anyone to play with their minis. Kings of War has rules for armies and models that corresponds to almost all of Warhammer fantasy armies. Mantic is not even producing models for these armies themselves, but they were purely made to make existing Warhammer fantasy players try and play Kings of War. You can bring all your GW models over, or use models from other companies. No problem. A lot of Kings of War players are doing that.