Hearing you mispronounce 'sakura' so many times was painful lol

@@keoniborge2498 but you survived and are stronger for it

​@@KingsandGeneralsYou guys have the best comebacks 😂 🫡👍

I just want to warn anyone from the EU wanting to try the box, I am from an EU country and tried the sakuraco box back in march of last year and the things in the box were nice but apparently sakuraco didn't comply with EU customs. As a result I had to pay almost 20 EUR extra for the customs procedure, per box (this has to be paid for every separate import) which made it VERY expensive. To fix this Sakuraco has to register online with the EU, but for some reason they don't. I brought this up with their support but it never got fixed. @KingsandGenerals would you know more if this is fixed already or are you able to pick this issue up with SakuraCo?

Thomas Sowell has some great writing on this.

No wonder capitalism never flourish in Ancient East Asian countries like Japan,China and Korea.

It's also problematic to tie merchants to one area.

for them@@brianpeck4035

Similar relationship in Late Republican Rome between the Patricians and the Plebs. Patrician and Plebeian status was determined by blood and could not change, over the centuries some Patrician families would fall on hard times while some Plebieans became extremely wealthy. Gauis Marius a wealthy and popular general of Plebian descent married into the impoverished Patrician Julii family by marrying the aunty of Julius Caesar. Marius gained the prestige of a patrician marriage while the Julii gained much needed wealth. A very benificial marriage as the Julii family had been irrelevant for a long time by that point, but would soon become the greatest family in rome under Julius Caesar, the nephew of Marius.

Absolutely, and that is no coincidence...

what do you think was the reason???​@@saymyname2417

what do you think about the 80s miniseries?

@@sebastianwolfmayr I was not aware of any videos of the 80's mini-series, so I checked KZfaq. In at least some of the videos, the portrayal of Japan is the same as in the historical dramas produced in Japan in the past, and it looks like Japanese personnel were involved.I have not seen all of the 80's mini-series, so it is possible that some of the scripts or character actions or dialog may seem strange to the Japanese, but from a visual standpoint, they seem fine.

For a layman, would you care to point out some of the Chinese illustrations in the video?

​@gorotv5826 thanks mate

​@@gorotv5826the 80s series was 100% produced in Japan. All the scenes were actually shot in Japan. So for that the series earned good points. It was panned in Japan because all the actors used *modern-day Japanese.* Unlike 2024 Shogun, which uses medieval Japanese language, 1980s Shogun did not bother. American viewers could not tell the difference. It didn't help that the 1980s version did not have any subtitles or translations for Japanese, ON PURPOSE, to try to immerse the American viewers in Blackthorne's character. This left viewers confused about what was going on the first time they saw the series given that they couldn't understand what the characters were saying and hadn't picked up enough Japanese to understand even characters' names let alone their dialogue yet.

History loves to hide it's sins.

@@BlackPillVillainbe careful with that edge son

It still is, in a roundabout sense!

@@BlackPillVillainIt's how society manages to keep doing all the wrong things in the present as they can look back and pretend it never happened in the past.

I guess the same could be said about european cities. In some parts of europe, literal serfdom existed until the mid 1800s.

It took me 3 hours with two breaks. One break to finish watching the 7th episode of Shōgun. 😂

It feels to me that master Confuxi might have traveled to India cause the similarities between the philosophies is striking. As an outsider to both of these cultures I can clearly see the sameness.

@@kb.e3762 Chinese values ideologies are spread throughout the Sinosphere, with varying degrees of adaptations. Vietnamese took a lot from Chinese culture (sometimes forcefully) and tweaked it to our liking. For example, the caste system above wasn't as strict in Vietnam as it was in Japan, the social stigma was there for the lower classes, but it was not forbidden to move out of the class you were born into.

It also spread across southeast asia, mercant was "undiserable" and that void was filled with merchant from Chinese mainland, Indian and Arabs. If we look today social hierarchy in most southeast asia countries the most wealthiest Business family are Chinese, Indian and Arabs.

​@@thomasjuniardi3559some native ethnic group like Minangkabau and buginese actually involved in trade too

Warrior actually outside the system and pretty much blurred because despite of their high status they mostly come from peasant background but their statur become equal with gentry(scholars) along with them and even become main ruling class like happening in japan when nobi aka samurai toppled kuge as main ruling class japan or just coexisting and blended with gentry class like what happened in China, Korea and Vietnam.

mariko would totally get it.

RIP

When you release 3 videos+ per week, you kinda run out of title ideas :D

hahaha nah its dope i can see a lot of people trying to assume your talking about shogun itself hahaha but that title gives a good idea :D @@KingsandGenerals

yeah sure, the title is for the people lol

What was it?

Yeah what was it?

Hiroyuki Sanada and Ken Watanabe are worthy contemporary actors.

家屋や町並みが中国のようです

I’m not sure if you just made a typo, but there are six episodes so far. If you haven’t watched the sixth please do, it’s great like the others!

@@twowheelunicycle8603 Watched it too, great episode

江戸時代の統治システムは徳川家による任命型委任統治システムです。現代の地方自治体の首長に相当する人物を任命する形式と考えれば理解が早いでしょう。

I used to always think Japan the moment it got a shogun was a stratocracy. The Daimyos were just glorified generals, the samurais the household units and the peasants your levies. Then again, I based this knowledge of shogun 2 and the FOTS DLC back then

@@adambrande I would broadly describe the defining element of true feudalism over other forms of stratocracy is that lower echelons of the military also possess fiefs, providing the military ruling class extensive political, economic and military independence from the rulers. e.g. a family of knights or samurai who own a single small castle, have the taxes, manpower and legal authority to raise a small independent army (even if it's only a few hundred strong), that is beholden only to the head of the family and that heads direct superior. The practical effect is that a feudal state is more akin to a confederation of mostly independent states, themselves composed of smaller independent states composed of smaller states in a highly decentralized political/military structure. It's difficult to stop an individual family in your region from waging war on their neighbour because they posses their wealth and power independently enabling them to act on their own as they see fit. By contrast the Edo system aimed specifically to strip Samurai of land and independence so that they had no ability to wage independent war. They were now dependant on their Daimyo for an income, and had no manpower to recruit peasants from. The Daimyo themselves were still independent but the samurai below them were not and so the system aimed to maintain the illusion of feudalism while stripping the mechanics behind it.

​@@alias-wave そんなおかしな純形式上の比喩(～現代の議会制に裏打ちされた地方自治と土地制度において所有権が曖昧な幕藩体制を比較しても意味がない)では誤解を招くよ。中世欧州型の封建制度と近世移行期の絶対主義の中間形態、限りなく絶対主義的統治に近づきながらも地方的割拠を払拭できなかった状態とした方が理解を得やすいだろう。言うまでもなく「関ケ原」と「大坂の陣」の戦況に歴史的根源を有しているが。

The idea is to check if the topic is viable in terms of views, if it is we will go into more deeper topics.

​@@KingsandGeneralscan you do a video about korean caste system, european caste system, indian caste system and japanese caste system. The similarity and the differences?

In Japan,we learn about "eta" and "hinin" in junior high school same as William Adams.

Guess why so few Non-Japanese know about eta and bunrakumin (or things like nanshoku and wakashu) but everyone "knows" about samurai and geisha ...

Wasn't the dude a real pos.

@@saymyname2417 All aristocrats are,,,

@@Shadowman4710 - Probably not all. But many. It's just their mindset. Whereas except for the emperials the Japanese never even had any nobility. But a caste system instead. But while other figures of history are criticised for their medieval mindset and actions this dude is still glorified to no end - together with his and his descendants' unholy reign. Not that he is the only one. See Napoleon. But especially when it comes to the land of the rising sun people are wilfully ignorant. I really don't mean to be rude but the obligatory "But others weren't any better" is no argument, just a lame excuse. When there is no counter argument possible.

All society has caste system, all others simply banned the caste system but india went a further and even gave lower caste or oppressed caste affirmative actions.

​@@SafavidAfsharid3197- No, not all socities had/have caste systems. There are higher and lower classes but classes are not the same as castes.

As much as the Tokugawa Shogunate has all the powers of government, they still rely on the loyalty of their most loyal Daimyo lords for support. "Feudalism" as a system of government is built on cooperation between the head of state and its subdivisions...

@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 As a usage of the term feudal, maybe. However, if you go to a historian and ask about 'feudal Japan' they are not going to talk about the Edo period. K&G actually use the correct term, historically, in the video: the early modern period. I just think the name is quite confusing as it doesn't match the content of the video.

Probably due to the technological stagnation during then

@@inconemay1441 But there wasn't a technological stagnation during the Edo period in Japan?

Uhm... WTF?!

In case my original comment is gone: just no to the statements of the oc.

I wouldn't say that Japan was decentralized. Actually for most of its history, it was centralized. Aside from that, countries centralize for different reason and different factors play role. For instance, there is a matter of geography. Japan is situated on 3 (4) islands, which already made centralization more difficult. On top of that, the core of Japan is much more mountainous than China. On the other hand, the core of the Chinese centralization came from the plain between the rivers Yangtze and Huang He. Another factor is the foreign enemies. Japan had fewer reasons to centralize because, for centuries, it had no foreign enemies whatsoever and having foreign enemies galvanizes the state. Economy can play a huge role in centralization. If a certain region outproduces others significantly across many industries, it can centralize and lead. When you look at the economic geography of Japan, all provinces were more or less of the same quality. These factors played a role during Sengoku Jidai and made Japan less centralized.

Bad experience?

I had a 1 year subscription. I told them not to renew. They did anyway, then refused to stop or refund my money. It took numerous emails and pressure over weeks to finally get them to stop.

@softsofasoftsofa It's called "customer succubus".

Interesting

Could you suggest good books about this? Thanks

What is the evidence used to scrap the previous theory ?

@@adamsnow4979 In fact, not much evidence was needed. Scholars and history buffs who were familiar with history knew that the hierarchy of peasants, artisans, and merchants was only a theoretical aspect of Neo-Confucianism, and that in actual society peasants, artisans, and merchants were equal. Even Japanese period dramas that exaggerated the status system depicted these three professions as equal, so the masses probably knew that they were equal in real society. However, the pyramid-shaped class diagram was published in textbooks and became widespread in society. In response, scholars published how peasants, artisans, and merchants were treated equally to prevent the spread of false knowledge, and the class diagram was removed. In other words, instead of finding new evidence, scholars collected and presented information that was already known.

@@gorotv5826 I have not come across to my knowledge any society in history that had no hierarchy of class with the exception of communist related. The real contention would be the existence of casteism or something similar in Japan where the class are fixed by hereditary. To say that class in historic Japan were equal and there is no hierarchy is obviously wrong due to clear fact that emperor and the imperial family are in the top of the hierarchy and no one is equal to the them.

It's like England having a king even though there's a prime minister ruling the country.

Politics

The emperor was a semi-divine chief priest that held enormous cultural significance to the people and legitimatized the military rule of the Shogun. Also, the Shogun's daughters were frequently married to the emperor so current and future emperors were all related to the Shogun.

@@wafflione3211 but prime ministers are not hereditary positions like Shogun. Japan basically had two monarchs.

@@HughR3GO You're right, so I should probably clarify that the Japanese emperor was the head Shinto priest based on his claim that he had direct divine lineage and maintained the purity of his lineage through a well-planned marriage. He may have lost control of his country like the Pope lost his position as King of Rome, but he was still its spiritual leader.

Yep, one of the upcoming videos will cover aspects of this topic

私はサムライ先生と新撰組を見ましたが、階級制度が厳密ではなかったということは理解できません。 特に戦国時代までは自分が活躍すれば侍になったり家臣になることができると言いますが、江戸時代が定立して階級の変化を与えるにはもう駄目だと思います。

@@TV-jg2kj 新選組は農民で構成された部隊なので、あなたの論理はそこで破綻しています。江戸時代における階級間の移動については江戸時代を専門に研究している磯田道史氏が詳しい解説をしている動画や書籍がありますのでそれを見てください。

@@TV-jg2kj 新選組の何を見たのか知りませんが、新選組は農民で構成された部隊です。 江戸時代において制度としての階級は存在してなかったことは明確に証明されており、上級武士以外の下級武士を含むすべての人々の職業や立場は流動的であったことが証明されています。私は江戸時代の専門家ではありませんので、江戸時代に興味があるなら、歴史研究者である磯田道史氏の書籍に詳しい解説がありますので、それらから知識を得るのがよいでしょう。

@@alias-wave かなり偏向した見方だね。わずかな例を持って大方の傾向を否定するのは正しくない。専門家でないならこそ自分が読んだ著作家だけを引き合いに出すのは不適切。制度としての身分が存在してなかったなどというのは妄想に過ぎない。「こうであったかも知れない」「こうであったらいいな」までは良い。だが「こうであったに違いない」と思い込む、そう信じたがるのは歴史ではない。そもそもこの動画の内容、ナレーションを理解してコメントしているのか。

@@2010winter100able 20年以上前から、”士農工商”は歴史の教科書から消えてる。それを知らないの？ 制度として階級は存在してなかったことが数々の研究で明らかになり歴史家のコンセンサスがとれたところでの結論として、教科書から士農工商が消えたんだよ ひとりもしくは数人の願望で教科書から消えるわけないでしょ（笑） 私の妄想に過ぎないと、あなたは主張した、あなたは私の妄想だと立証する責任を負った。立証してみてくれ（笑）

There is a debate among historians regarding the eras. In this case, we contend that the transition from medieval to early modern happens when capitalist mode of production becomes prevalent. For Japan, that is still down the road.

​@@KingsandGenerals Thank you for your prompt answer. Being from Central Europe/Carpathian region, where feudalism was also only slowly abolished towards the end of 18th century and throughout the 19th century with the fall of HRE and formation of Austria-Hungary and Theresian reforms, my thinking was dragging me to the direction how much this seems to parallel the development in Japan with maybe the period from Hussite wars to 30y war being parallel to Sengoku period. It's the same centuries of turmoil cca 1450-1650, then conservative late feudalism and then finally collapse of feudal elites around 1800 and opening up to market and industrial changes in 19th century ending up with rising nationalism and eventually fascism in wwii, Germany forming axis with Japan. Remarkably parallel history.

Good question. Will consider!

no

Doesn't sound like a good idea to treat the prison guards almost as bad as the prisoners themselves

Funerals were conducted by buddhist monks, so the words undertakers and butchers here may have meant corpse disposers. They had privilege of not having their derivative profits violated. About the guards Im also confused like you

Given that pre-Meiji Japan is dominated by Buddhist and Neo-Confucian social norms, butchers being shunned is not at all surprising. Remember, under Buddhist teachings killing an animal for food is frowned upon; also from a practical and historical perspective the eating of meat is looked at as a rebellious act because you ate something that is more useful alive (cattle and horses) and Christian missionaries used cooked meat as an enticement for the Japanese to convert to Christianity. Japan embracing the idea of eating meat came about around 1879 when the Meiji Emperor first ate beef in a Tokyo restaurant...

There's a few reasons why butchers weren't exactly respected. Most of the meat consumed in Japan prior to the 18th Century tended to be wild game (in fact, in Tenmu's Edict that banned the consumption of various animals, Boar and Deer are conspicuously absent from the list), and the dressing of a kill was entirely left to the hunter, not a third party. Another reason that the raising of livestock didn't take off in Japan, is partly because horses and cattle were introduced fairly late to the island chain (in the 5th and 6th CE) and, more importantly, the Japanese main islands aren't conducive to raising the animals. While Japan is fairly huge, with Honshu being the 7th largest island on the planet, much of that is heavily mountainous terrain, and only 14% of Japan's overall territory is suitable for habitation. What airable land that was available, was used for rice cultivation. It just wasn't practical to raise livestock on a large scale, and because of that, there wasn't really a need for butchers.

Its a part of the Ru (Confucianism) philosophy's stratified society