It's possible, but I've pretty much only done it to look at the backgrounds.

These are my thoughts exactly as well. Sword was by far my favorite ability throughout the game due to it simply having a bit more variety in moves than the others, especially the 4th level of sword.

There definitely will be and the movesets will be expanded in the next one as well. I feel like the shift to 3d made them play it a lot safer/have to scrap a bunch of the 2d movesets

The copy ability moveset is definitely something I want to see expanded in later titles. Forgotten Land is a step in the right direction for the series, and I look forward to seeing HAL perfect 3D Kirby in the future.

I am also a big Kirby fan that has played almost every game. But I can't say I felt like I was missing out at all. I switched copy abilities regularly, and thoroughly enjoyed every single one a lot more than I did in the 2D games. Even with the more limited movesets I thought they did great with what they gave us. But I do think that if there is anything I would like the next game to expand upon again, it is absolutely the copy abilities. I really enjoyed how much this game feels like a devil may cry/bayonetta light at times, and I just want more of that.

Me too. They nailed that concept. There's a great pace to it all.

Yeah, I can't think of a way for them to keep that part of him involved in 3D space. It would trivialize way too much of what they were going for here. Plus, I guess Kirby had more of a limit to their float in Kirby 64, so there's at least some precedent for it.

IKR

yeah the harder version of the final boss totally suprised me for is difficulty, even with the most powerful weapon in the game (you know wich one i'm talking about)

@@lioli6961 Yeah I'm currently trying to beat colosseum 3 with the level 1 sword without upgrades and without buying items/using retries/without dodging. I can do just about every other boss, but I just can't do the final boss. In the second phase it has attacks that I have about a 50/50 chance of dodging, but they kill you in like 4 hits and with the level 1 sword the fight takes like 15-20 minutes.

@@somethin7020 wow great challenge idea! Hope you will succeed!

Absolutely

@@Lowart If this game sells well, this won't be a one time thing.

What worries me is Kirby games tend to be one-time with their gimmicks... Epic Yarn, Planet Robobot,... that said, I think an entire 3D engine goes beyond gimmick territory.

I agree that something like that would be great. I would also prefer if it was available from the start of the game, rather than needing to first beat the main mode. I was kinda hoping that this game's "wild mode" would be something like that, but nah, it's basically just regular Kirby difficulty haha

@@Lowart yeah, that's my hope too. Kirbys audience grew up just like Zelda's and I feel like Nintendo still treats it with kid gloves too often.

The original Kirby on the gameboy had an "Extra" mode that was literally that. Return to Dream Land also had an extra mode that beefed up the difficulty, but it was nowhere near the insanity of Dream Land's Extra mode.

@@Cri_Jackal was it a post endgame mode?

@@YouVSMeTV In Kirby's Dream Land beating the game gave you the password to unlock Extra Mode, so you could play it whenever you liked as long as you knew the password, in Kirby's Return to Dream Land you had to beat the game once to unlock it. Ideally, you should have both options, so that people who want to play on hard right away just have to put in the button combination to unlock it immediately.

Nice. Was said boss the final boss, the one with the cool sword, or one of the less spoiler-y ones?

Agreed!

I hope you enjoy it!

@@Lowart I have no doubt I will

Drove me NUTS completing the final hard challenge within the time limit hahaha Like a solid 30 or 40 minutes straight of that stupid board.

Nice! I recently played through the Reignited Trilogy. Might make a video on it at some point, but I really enjoyed the remake of the first game in particular

@@Lowart Awesome to hear man! I’d love to see an in depth analysis on the trilogy from you👍🏿

Yeah it's a pain having to exist the whole stage just for that. Would also like an easier time revisiting LVL sections for challenges I need to complete instead of redoing the entire LVL. Although to be fair, the lvls are pretty short if you blast through them.

@@summerycast7936 I just found it really annoying for any of the “take no damage” challenges. In particular there’s one where you need to fight 2 frosty mini bosses at once. But only AFER you fight 3 other mini bosses first. I just found it really obnoxious.

Absolutely. There is still room to streamline the experience, and this should be among the first changes made.

You can press the minus button to insta-drop abilities and mouthful modes

@@sonicsenryaku6205 whaaaaaat lol I feel dumb… cause the minus button has always done that, I’ll have to try that right away… still why not make that the function of the Y button, and allow us to toggle whether it’s a hold or a single press in the options like with auto copy

@@caravaneerkhed EDIT: had to edit my comment because i realized the information i i provided about the Y button was false due to my button configurations being different....whoopsies.... My guess is because they wanted the Y button to serve as a way to rethink dropping your ability without insta-dropping it right away. If you make it so that you have to hold the Y button to drop the ability, it reduces the chance you would accidentally drop the copy ability and have a harder time picking it back up if you sucked in a mouthful object. That being said, it seems like the developers still didn't want to abandon insta-dropping copy abilities, so they still kept that affordance mapped to the minus button. Why the game doesn't tell you that, I don't know, but that's my guess anyway.

@@sonicsenryaku6205 you can use b to suck up mouthful objects even while you have a copy ability though… so I think it was either just a bad design decision, or an oversight

@@caravaneerkhed yea i know about the B button being able to swallow objects while having copy abilities; definitely right about that; I'm just guessing as to why the design choice necessitated having to hold the Y button to drop copy abilities. Maybe the wanted to give the player the option to rethink dropping the ability before they actually confirm it. Either way, I'm not entirely sure what the intent was

What's wrong with ultra?

In all seriousness it seems TFL is more enjoyable and far less tedious to complete than crash 4.

I like Planet Robobot and Superstar Ultra, but consider Triple Deluxe and the original Super Star the worst Kirby games ever.

for me it is - though Return to Dreamland is still really close

@@Lowart I haven’t played a lot of Kirby games but this one does loom fun

@@Lowart return is average

You know what? You might actually have me there because Kirby Air Ride is an absolute BANGER

I thoroughly enjoyed this game but I do agree that it did feel repetitive and I tried to ignore the 30fps frame drops which usually don't bother me but it was so noticeable and hard to ignore and kind of took away the immersion and wonder of the different stages. Not saying the game is bad in any way but I do agree that it wasn't the best. Though I will say since it is my first time dipping my toes into the Kirby franchise that it makes me want to try other games out so I bought Planet Robobot and Triple Deluxe

From what I've seen the game stops introducing new mouthful modes after world 3 so I'd assume that's one of the reasons why the game feels monotonous after a certain point.

@@TerrorOfTalos yeah. Also the fact it’s the same 10 abilities over and over again. (Not counting sleep and crash) also I just felt that made all the puzzles feel samey and kinda boring. Lastly the lack of a leave level button that doesn’t delete all your progress or a restart from checkpoints makes getting all waddle dees hell. Also the mini bosses were repeating way to frequently.

Hmmm, I never got the feeling the game got into the habit of pointing EVERY secret to you especially since there are quite a bunch of things in this game that you could completely pass by and wouldn't have ever been the wiser. If anything, one of the things that I would praise about the game is how the it doesn't point you to every secret because finding them to complete the game isn't absolutely necessary; it's simply the reward for taking the time to use your keen eye to explore

You say that like people call every new game the best one everytime. Even the average Kirby fan finds the last game to be Kirby at his most mediocre LMAO

@@jesse422 No you illiterate 🤡. It's every Kirby game past Return to Dream Land can't improve on its formula and is just ripping it off. All that needs to be done is make Kirby open world, but seeing you can't read. I'm wasting my time...