Star Trek fans want to live in star trek. Star Wars fans want to live in star wars. 40k fans DON'T want to live in 40k.

Stars wars: Sir we lost over 40000 people in this massive battle. we need to retreat 40k: only 3 billion losses for one small moon, lets add 3 more for good measure

One thing is for sure the Doom Slayer will have a blast in the 40k-verse, he’d instantly fit in with Space Marines

AND the most insane thing about all this is that every faction(aside from chaos) is currently in a weakened, decayed, or a remanent of their golden age. ALL OF THAT OVERPOWEREDNESS is not even 5% compared to the factions when in their prime. The Imperium had the Human federation which was approaching the inter-galactic level, the Eldar has the Aledari Empire, an empire that owned the 40k verse for 60 million years, and the Orks were once the Krork, a 12-meter tall, hyper-intelligent race with a complex society capable of everything the Ork can do, but better 10x in every way. The Necrons in their prime beat literal eldritch gods like the Old Ones and the C'tan, even fighting the Aledari Empire and krorks as well. You can honestly say that Chaos is actually the weakest faction as any of the other factions in their prime could beat its ass in every fight, the only reason Chaos is so dangerous is the corrupting ability and the warp that can always respawn them if they died, if a faction was able to take away/counter those two prime abilities, Chaos is boned beyond description.

Stormtrooper: *misses* Imperial Guardsmen: *dies anyway*

*How do you travel the universe?* Star Trek: We use warp speed Star Wars: We use hyperspace Halo: We use slipspace Warhammer 40K: We go through hell

I'd like to point at the Necrons who can just at will detonate stars, and have defeated a literal species of gods that eat stars who tricked the Necrons into giving up their souls. They then use the fragments of these gods as attack dogs.

As a military commander you have to think of spacemarines as a tank with the maneuverability of infantry, the speed of mechanized infantry and the modus operandi of special ops. You also have to keep in mind that every spacemarine is a tactical and strategic genius with decades or maybe even centuries of experience in nothing but war.

As a counterpoint, if a space marine tried to board a Star Trek or Star Wars ship they'd just be stuck in a tiny hallway.

Warhammer 40k is like the cartoon were two guys keep pulling out bigger guns and it never ends.

As far as other factions being just as powerful, I love the fact that the primary weakness of the Necrons is that theyre too petty to work together, and as such are preoccupied with 65 million year old feuds between leaders

A star wars laser rifle equivalent in 40k, the lasgun is seen as a flashlight relative to the threats they face, that just goes to show the scale

The philosophy of 40K is “If everything overpowered, nothing is overpowered”

SW: "We have AT-AT's." 40K: "We have churches that walk." SW: "What?!" 40K: "what?"

My favorite shorthand way to describe why space marines are nuts: “Something that big shouldn’t move that fast.”

Good thing you didn't mention the cream of the crop guardsmen planets, Tulwarn, Valhalla, Armageddon, Cadia, Catachan, and Krieg. Those planets produce insanely skilled and well trained warriors that even space Marines nod in respect to you (especially if you're from Cadia, an astartes will nod and pour one out for your no longer planet).

Funny story about Orks A group of guardsmen and their commisar are holding out against a wave of orks, and eventually they run out of power packs for their lasguns. Unfased, the commisar picks up a guardsman's weapon, points it at an oncoming ork, yells "BANG!", and the ork falls dead. Amazed, the guardsmen follow suit, orks falling left and right. A few minutes later, a group of orks come running towards the position, not dropping to the men's loudest 'bang's; only when they get closer do the guardsmen hear them chanting "I'm a tank I'm a tank I'm a tank!".

Why Warhammer 40k always win you say? *Because its the Emperor's will and anything else is pure heresy.*

A important thing to note some quotes say “ he rules over a million worlds “ Others say “ he rule over uncountable millions of worlds “ and most guardsmen are also the best of there planet and each planet has defensive forces

I would add that from a storywriting perspective, 40k really benefits from being set in a 'fallen' or 'post-peak' universe: Each faction (minus the Tau) there *was* much stronger in the distant past, but lives on as a shadow of its former glory. This gives stories two major advantages: you can pull a superweapon into the plot with an easy justification ("ancient archaeotech weapon that was long-forgotten and just recently rediscovered") and just as quickly write it out of any future stories ("It broke and we don't have the schematics/It got possessed by a Daemon/AdMech filed it away on a Forge world for 5,000 years of study before they might let you have it back"). Even when the writers don't explicitly write those explanations in, it lets readers seamlessly fill in the blanks themselves. By comparison, in almost all of the other sci-fi universes mentioned, it's hard to explain why the protagonists (or antagonists) suddenly got their hands on some superweapon/near-magic tech. "How did Scotty/the Empire/ONI just suddenly *have* this technology? When/how did they develop it? Why wasn't it used earlier? Why doesn't it show up in later stories set in this universe?" This helps paper over some of the lore inconsistencies in 40k (and there's quite a few...) and other writing errors, making the universe as a whole feel more believable despite the comedically over-the-top nature of the setting.

By his estimate, there are are 50 trillion guardsmen. Most call that overkill, 40k calls it inadequate

Orks : gets force choked by a sith. Other Orks : " If wez just hol' hand like such, wez can chokes people."

The easiest way is to say "The Scale". In Star Wars, the Star Destroyer is the mainline Battleship. It would be a Cruiser in 40k. The Super Star Destroyer that is the OP Dreadnaught is the size of standard Battleships in 40k.

Nerdy point on accuracy, the bolter fires a round out the barrel first which then ignites a charge and continues accelerating. So it's technically still a gun, just one that fires highly specialised rounds.

The 40k universe is like a bunch of kids in a circle going "Well MY faction can..." constantly trying to one up each other. It's great.

Short answer: The original concept of 40k was born in the 80's, a time where hyper-violence and exageration was big in the media. 40k always wins because it is unapologetically absurd, exagerated to the extreme, and revels in every single moment. Also, Waaaaagh.

The black carapace is actually not armor. The armor is formed by causing the ribs of the spacemarine to grow a flat extension of the bone downwards in an overlapping pattern so that the ribcage of the spacemarine effectivly turns into a lorica segmenta. Also keep in mind that during the spacemarine transformation they get a diet that is extremly high in iron because part of the spacemarine transformation process is reinforcing the bones of the spacemarine with iron. The Black carapace is essentially just a layer of artifical, subdermal skin that allows the spacemarine to interact directly over the skin with their powerarmor and makes it so that the spacemarine can feel the surface of the powerarmor like it's their own skin. If the wind blows over the powerarmor it will feel for the spacemarine as if it's blwong across their own skin. Also, the installation of the black carapace requires the spacemarine to be literally flayed. The black carapace is then installed under the skin and the skin is sewn back onto the black carapace.

As one honorable space marine once said: "Abandon reason, know only war." That pretty much sums up the whole point.

Necrons: ancient, soulless robots who destroyed their gods and now use them as pokemon

Warhammer 40K always wins because 40K can't survive 40K.

40K is so insane I wouldn’t be surprised if someone can actually die from emotional damage

The Celestial Orery alone is freaking OP, its like a touchscreen for deleting planets in 40k..

Warhammer 40k: "You can't be OP if everybody is OP."

Star wars: the planet has been overun, we need to retreat. Imperium: hehe exterminatus goes *VROOOOOM*

2 important things to also consider is every legion of marines have special genes that make them near immune to disease/ poison, or have werewolf genes that make them extreme hunters. The 2nd is the brain implants that speed up their brain functions so they can process information and think at super speed

I mean, if we're talking universes at their peak, you'd be dealing with humanity during humanity's golden age where they had men of Iron, nano machines that could strip planets, robots that could lift tectonic plates with their jaws, machines that absorb entire stars to destroy solar systems, armour that makes space marine power armour look like health and safety gear.

When a planet busting event happens: In any sci-fi universe… The inhabitants break before the planet does. In 40 K, the planet breaks before the defenders do.

In Star Wars Clone War was the largest conflict in millenia... In Warhammer 40k the call it "Tuesday".

In other settings killing entire planets is relatively rare. Where as killing planets happens on the regular in 40k.

TBH just listening to the description of the Space Marines and the world of 40K excites me. The most awesome and ridiculous sci-fi lore EVER! Even the frickin LIBRARIAN is insanely powerful!

Clone wars: Oh the horror, hundreds of billions are dead! The Imperium of Man: Those are rookie numbers! Gotta get those numbers up!

They always win, because *THE EMPEROR PROTECTS*

2 years late but I think the better comparison is finding a guard regiment dedicated to the topic in question. Space Marines are the "poster child" because GW wants them to sell, but for each space marine battle the guard has fought on hundreds more battle fields across the galaxy. Now to admit my bias, I play guard and I love all the random lore. However, Cadia is the gold standard model and a single planet housing a regiment is the exception not the rule. Cadia, Catachan, Armageddon, Vostroya, Valhalla, Krieg, Atilla, Tallaran, and too many more are not the standard of 40k. In general we should and can divide them into: Fuedal, Penal, specialist, and "standard" (not this is how I like to break down legions it's not really official) Fuedal legions are legions drawn up from worlds which have regressed to resemble the fuedal era of humanity though some retain stronger weapons such as the laslock. They tend to be a bit smaller when drawn from a single world. Penal legions are legions drawn up from a variety of worlds and have criminals who were too bad to return to society but not totally irredeemable (think repentia from the sisters of battle) Specialist legions are ones like Krieg, Armageddon, Catachan, and Tallaran specialize in siege, mechanized, jungle, and desert/ambush warfare respectively. These tend to be from a single world though that is not always the case. "Standard" refers to legions that are close to Cadia but have one or two special characteristic. From being pricks to having an armor or weapon that's only produced on their home world. They may deploy independently or may be a model that's exported to a system or systems. These could be culturally distinct groups, groups that are drawn from gangs, groups that carry unique armors, groups with unique weapons, etc. etc. Additionally they may be entire regiments (which would have to be reduced in size given the size of a 40k regiment) or could be mixed together. How 40k treats the guard is incredibly strange. They are the punching bag of every action, yet they still appear everywhere. Like ants where there is one there's dozens and where a threat appears they fight even if there are no chances of survival. Even when space marines run, when the enemy is mowing them down, and when the planet breaks below their feet. The guard has held the line for 10 thousand years, and they shall continue to hold the line. The planet broke before the guard did, Cadia Stands!

Warhammer 40k where every gun has the description of cutting through space marine armor like butter except for the standard guard laser gun.

"Librarians can project visions of an enemies worst fears" Darth Vader: Sand...SAND EVERYWHERE!!!!!

My friend described 40K perfectly "Everything is so overpowered that nothing is overpowered"

Star Wars's Death Star or Star Killer was a big deal. Pretty sure some people in the Imperium decided not to use that type of weapon against an all powerful enemy because it was 'no fun'

In the Star Wars universe, the destruction of One planet was the most terrible thing ever, in 40k, extarminatus is something the Inquisition does on tuesday afternoon just in case somebody on the planet might have been from the planet of Armageddon

Video: " *Why does warhammer 40k always win?* " Me: " *Because to think otherwise is heresy and is punishable by death* "

Literally any other sci fi universe: “But like this army is super strong and-“ 40k: “shhhhhhhh... Tyranids”

In other scifi, certain tech tends to be nerfed in some way to keep it from being too overpowered. But sometimes the writers might add something else even more powerful, or the same thing but without the nerf. If left unchecked, you might lose a sense of scale for just how powerful the things in that universe really are. WH40k is what happens when everything starts off way too OP because powercreep is the name of the game.

I basically got into Warhammer cause of this video. Just bought my first army.

Starwars: Open your mind and feel the force around you WarHammer40K: “and open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded”

Storm Trooper; "We have a death star" Imperial Inquisitor; "That's cute"

To add on to the guardsmen population you should also consider the large number of basic civilians who are conscripted should there planet come under attack like we see in during the siege of Terra.

40k allways struck me asbit of a parody on scifi in general, scifi has the trope of "around every corner is an even badder enemy/ an even more advanced alien empire and even bigger anomaly etc" and 40k took that and it didnt just turn it up to 11 it turned it up to 111. any major plotline in other scifi franchises would be anohter tuesday in 40k. startrek: the borg are here! starwars: space wizzards are attacking us! stargate: religious space priests are attacking and converting us! 40k: well theres several daemon invasions there, there and there, theres 3/4 of an ork waaaagh that way, the hive fleet is in that corner and some guardsmen did a fucky wucky and woke up a couple of tomb worlds all in all its a slow century, casualties have only increased by 15% oh crap, black crusade just hit.. casualties are now up by 120%

I think I speak for the other imperial guard players, if we can not kill our enemies, we will drown them in our blood.

He ain't joking when he said every other race is overpowered because there's a race called Necrons and they use gods as double AA batteries and they supernova suns for fun

As a massive star wars nerd, I'm not trusting anyone who has a Sequels poster on their wall XD

Im not an expert on StarWars but acording to what I remember the Sith Empire fell and rebuild countless times and all of it in just years. The Imperium of Man is 40000 years old and only once a long time ago was the Imperium extremely close to eradication during the Horus herecy, it's so gigantic that even a few planets rebeling is not importend enough to be taken seriously. Warhammer 40K is the turest form of OP or rather UltraOverOP. Like he said it's pretty much lunacy how OP it is.

40k is the answer to the question- "What is the worst/most awesome bad ending humanity could achieve?"

40K is the Australia of SF universes, everything is designed to kill you and what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

In order to put things in perspective, this is what I tell my friends. Take the US's civil war era style of fighting, with men fighting shoulder to shoulder; take whatever image that is, and add in everyone having machineguns, body armor, rocket launchers; add in some air combat, artillery, super soldiers, reinfocements drop podding from space, huge fuck-off war machines, litreral demi-gods of war, magic, and multiply the original number of combatants by like a 1000 or so. That is just a normal day on a typical fringe world of the Imperium. Literally, a different level of the universe.

In one of the spacewolf novels, a marine loses half his brain and still lives. Another has his jaw blown off and still keeps fighting, and when the battle ends, he gives Ragner a thumbs up. 🤯

Starwars: guys! This is horrible! They made a weapon that CAN KILL PLANETS 40K: did somebody say JOINING CHAOS?! uh oooooh! SMASH IT! *exterminatus the whole damn system*

40k is just the dark souls “YOU DIED” screen indefinitely

If the standard Lasgun from 40k were brought to real life it'd be an anti-tank weapon

Darth Vader: and remember: NO DISINTEGRATIONS. Boba Fett, putting away his noiseblaster guitar: THIS OFFENDS SLAANESH

Its hard to beat a universe that is balanced through an arm's race between each of the writers favorite armies

Rule 1 Of Sci-fi: you can't make ALL the races of your universe being op Warhammer 40K: * exists * Halo: wait, thats illegal Edit: Why the fuck this have 1,8 Likes?

I think it’s this simple. Lesser universes have soldiers designed as a last resort or to defend. Space marines were created to conquer the galaxy, which if there wasn’t a civil war they most definitely would have.

Darth vader: fighting a librarian Librarian: plants an image of white beaches and flowing dunes into his mind

Basically. All 40k factions are “That Kid” who made stuff up so he would always win. So 40k as a whole is the pure distilled embodiment of “That Kid”.

There's one category that Warhammer40k loses in pretty spectacularly in against all the others: Which universe would be the most pleasant to live in?

I made the fatal mistake of reading ONE warhammer short story...and I haven't been able to escape the warhammer universe since...it's been 3 years now

I feel like an astartes would be a really tough match up for a Jedi. They are super heavy so I would be hard to force push them, they are also familiar with fighting psychers. They shoot bullets which are almost impossible to deflect with a light saber. And they could probably tank a few lightsaber strikes.

"Long time ago, galaxy far far away"/"Space, the final frontier" vs. *In the grim darkness of the far future, THERE IS ONLY WAR*

40k always wins because the Emperor protects.

I would like to see the empire fighting against the imperial guard on a planet and thinking they are gonna win. Then the sky opens up as titans fall from the sky

You also forgot to mention the one faction in 40k that could wipe all current factions out if they wanted to with minimal effort the grate old ones but they don't because they left the galaxy

If a librarian summoned Darth Vader's worst fear, he would see an endless stream of sand

Star Wars: "Sir we lost 10k of men.. we need to retreat!" Emperor of Mankind: "We sacrifice 10k's of men a day.. to keep me alive"

Fun fact: Warhammer does in fact not always win.

With 10th edition now out, and this is still the best description on how nuts 40k is vs (insert favorite army here)

Warhammer: *For the Emperor* Star Wars: Emperor Palpatine?? Warhammer: kill the heretic!! Star Wars: wait what?!

40k is basically if steroids could inject steroids

Having been absolutely ADHD obsessed with each of these fandoms at some point I'd say the answer is quite easy: WH40K is actually a lot of fun for a PG-13+ audience. Halo & Star Wars appeal to younger G-PG aged fans and Star Trek a PG (now PG-13 from reboots? version of space travel where everyone talks and space battles are about a few 'pew pews'. WH40K gives me at least the (grim) dark insanity of everything is overwhelming and it's all as meaningful as you want it to be. The characters are caricatures and it's on purpose and beautiful because of it.

Insanely, there is a second brain! Not quite, but near enough. One of the changes let’s them split their brain in half and threat the two halves as separate organs, allowing them to let one side sleep while the other keeps fighting. In theory this could also allow them to keep going if a bullet went through just one side?

You know how in Rise of Skywalker, when we find out that Palpatine has made a fleet of Star Destroyers that can each destroy a planet? And remember how everyone thought that that was way over the top and stupid? In the 40k universe, it's not just a reasonable idea, it's the Imperium's main fleet.

40k is the sci-fi equivalent of “but can they beat goku”

- Commander, what's wrong? Why you lose your positions? - THERES A FUCKING CHURCH STOMPING OUR AT-AT'S!!!!

The problem with these debates is that every sci-fi universe has an OP trump card that can be pulled easily. Halo has the precursors/forerunners. 40K has the Necrons and the Warp. Star Trek has Q and it's common plot convenience. Star Wars has the Force, OP force users, literal gods, and silly BS like the Suncrusher. Even settings like DC/Marvel/Pokemon/etc have literal reality-dominating gods and shit, I could literally make up some shit or pull some obscure trump cards to argue how *Spongebob* could solo all of the above settings. To have a proper Vs. debate you need to set proper conditions for it and make it clear what is/isn't allowed to be used. Entire Universe A vs. Entire Universe B constantly puts us in this loop.

To quote Bricky If Space Marine is a super soldier and Grey Knights is super super soldier, then Custodies is the soldiers that call Space Marine cute.

40k is like two kids playing a war on the playground "My army is made of 8ft tall super soldiers with automatic rpgs" "Well mine use mechanics with railgun that can destroy your guy." "Well my army has massive robots the size of skyscrapers" "Well mine has a giant amalgamation of scrap metal and self confidence called orkstompa" Just constant oh but my armys has ____ to 1 up eachother

15:11 "that's way too strong, oh no it's dead" the accuracy 😂

random 40k question I just came up with while watching the video, did tyberus get a primaries upgrade, if so then how f*cking huge is he now?!

Well you see, in Warhammer, people ride in tanks just to go up to other tanks, and hit them with a sword.

Star Wars: We have the Death Star! Warhammer: *Laughs in Phalanx* Star Wars: We can blow up an entire planet in 1 shot! Warhammer: We can blow up several planets in 1 shot. Star Wars: We have force users!!! Warhammer: *FORCE USERS? YOU MEAN PSYKERS?! HERETICS*

Emperor(SW) blows up a planet. Enquisitor, hold my beer

40k In a nutshell: “We have bigger Tanks. Your argument is invalid.”