Car subscriptions have to be the dumbest thing. It already costs an arm and a leg to drive. Tolls, gas, insurance, maintenance etc. now subscriptions? OK 💀

Everything is subscription these days. I’m sick of it

This is why I buy only base LE models without added tech features. Tech = electronic torture.

Great video Kirk. This brings the car down to earth to the reality level. These are all the things that bring buyers remorse after you've signed your life away. The takeaway here? Keep it simple. The more tech you buy, the crazier you will be. I had a loaded 2023 Camry XSE AWD for a week as a loaner with all the bells and whistles while my 2018 base LE Hybrid was indisposed. The JBL audio system in the XSE drove me crazy with all the rattles coming from the panels. The safety feature that automatically slowed the car down for the corners drove me crazy. I found it and turned it off. (Whew!) The lane keeping assist made me angry with all the tugging of the wheel while I was driving. Off it went. The big 19" wheels felt heavy and took the nimbleness away that my 18 LE Hybrid had. The 360 camera was distracting and gave a terrible view when it rained due to water on the lenses which at times gave a false sense of security due to the image being distorted from the water. When I got my LE Hybrid back I felt like now I was now back in the sports car of Camry's! It was quicker, more nimble, much lighter feeling, and just more fun to drive. And my very nice sounding 6 speaker audio system had none of those rattles! So good to be home. 😊

Had my LE for less than 2 weeks now. Only complaint is too much distracting tech. Miss my old radio with it's physical preset buttons.

I don't know why car manufacturers are all emphasizing increasingly larger wheels, when it's less economical in terms of gas consumption and more energy-intensive for an electric car. If the Prius Prime had 17-inch wheels, instead of 21-inch wheels, it would have more electric range, at least 10 miles more minimum.

Thank you! Kirk for mentioning and pointing this out about the lack of energy flow monitor on all the Camrys trims on the multimedia screen. This vehicles are part of an beyond zero goal that Toyota has with all its new HEV's. For an icon on the Toyota line up, as the Camry is, they are missing an essential tool that basically tells the driver how your car is working and what is happening with the hybrid system and the power train. This is a tool for all drivers that helps them to be more efficient and conscious about fuel economy. This is clearly Toyota being negligent. Im an owner of a LE 2025 and it is missing this feature as well. I contacted Toyota and they give me a default customer service message that "your concern is being heard" which I dont think is true. So, thank you for bringing this up, and give us a voice to Toyota customers and Camry owners. even on the owners manual, page 114 this is a feature that is falsely advertised and it says that this is available on the multimedia screen but this is false. There are several reviewers that notice the lack of the energy flow monitor as well. This is clearly an error from Toyota and they are just disregarding the customer voices. All the other manufacturers of hybrids have functions that allow the driving to understand the how the power is being generated, even the corolla 2024 hybrid has it and the software looks exactly the same. Hopefully they pay attention to this matter. There is a reddit about it as well for Camry 2025 owners.

I have a recent ES350, and I'm impressed by this new Camry. With this new hybrid setup, It is difficult for EVs to compete. At 45-50MPG, you are talking about 580 miles + of range. You may have to fill up once or twice a month. Please compare each cabin's ride quality and quietness when you have a moment with an F Sport ES350.

I think we can all agree that we hate those fake engine noise.

All of your criticisms are on point! That's why I love your channel! I have a 2009 Lexus es350 with touchscreen And it's the easiest and the most simple car interface to use. I wish they go back to basics so actually it will be easier for every age group to use their cars.

2025 Camry LE is the one to buy. Fantastic fuel economy, great ride quality with the 16" tires and the seats are insanely comfortable and supportive. Also very roomy back seat area.

I always forget about wireless charging, I just plug-in. It works better and doesn't heat up your phone as much.

No car is perfect the question is always “ can you happily live with the flaws?”

I have a 25 XSE. My biggest complaint is the paint. Mine is black and if I look at it wrong, it scratches. 1800 miles and I already have stone chips on the hood and a scratch on the door where I washed off bird poo. My fault for not getting paint protection film, but the paint seems really soft/thin. Only other thing is the center console lid. The padding is super thin and uncomfortable to rest my elbow on.

Makes me glad I found an XSE with just the pano roof and not the rest of the premium package, about $3k cheaper. Sounds like the driver assist systems and JBL in the premium package aren't really worth it.

How about some decent wheels that are NOT low profile, Indiana has more potholes than road.

I just bought the 2025 Camry Hybread and it’s great. I’ve hit 44 mpgs and the speaker rattle was corrected by a slight reduction of the base. And as far as the screen, I use Apple CarPlay and there are arrows in the top left corner to touch and it takes you right to the Toyota screen.

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New Camry is a excellent class leading mid size sedan like always and killing its competition like a perfectly tuned assassin.👑👑.

Kirk, thank you for giving this 1 week driving experience. Its good to hear your thoughts on the car.

I wish the packages were grouped differently (or available a la carte). Personally, I don't want leather or leatherette seats unless they're ventelated. But I also absolutely don't want a sunroof. JBL audio would be nice too, but again I'm 100% opposed to sunroofs and don't want a lot of the other garbage that comes on the premium plus package. As is, my best match would probably be a base Camry and just upgrade the sound system aftermarket. But I'd like the option to get an XSE and just check the boxes I want for options.

Subscription services - making me think maybe not a TOYOTA this time. Toyota has a reputation for long life. I wonder how an old 2025 Toyota will be? "Oh, it used to have Subscription Services, but TOYOTA decided that it's too old for them to bother." Could wreck the reputation for great resale value.

Much of this can be addressed by simply getting an LE model. As far as the "Alien sound," locate the speaker and fill it with spray foam, or wrap it with the best sound deadening material you can find. And my recommendation on subscriptions... Just say NO to subscriptions. My Camry wanted a subscription to continue using the remote start. So I bought an aftermarket plug and play remote start that works exactly like the factory unit. Ain't no way I'm paying for a subscription for something the car already does. Any feature that requires a subscription to keep working simply doesn't even exist on the car as far as I'm concerned. So when I'm weighing one car against another, if remote start requires a subscription,.. the car doesn't have remote start then. If the other car I'm considering has remote start that doesn't require a subscription,.. then THAT car has remote start, and so on. As I weigh out feature for feature, only the ones that don't require subscriptions actually exist. They can stuff their subscriptions up you know where. This subscription thing has got to stop. And we are the only ones that can stop it by not subscribing to it.

How about they make all the tech shit a subscription and charge $19,999 for the car? I’d go for that.

I am planning to buy a camry, but I think I am buying the 2024. I like the style more than the new one, and I don't care about paying more for gas.

Interested to see you to nitpick the 2025 Civic soon!

I appreciate your review. Your concerns are in alignment with my concerns

1:05 Totally agree with you about the seatbelt thing. I own the 2023 Prius and it has the same problem.

I have an 8th Gen Se trim, and I can confirm Kirk that all Camry owners have that same seatbelt problem 😮‍💨 This car is a great improvement overall, a few kinks yes but nothing major. Really keeping my fingers crossed for a hopeful announcement of the Crown Sport for North America, however I think they are concerned for the sales of Lexus NX and thus might never happen 😔

I just checked the chinese version of the camry, interior wise and even the infotainment it's better. Never knew it existed but i guess sedans are still alive in china and with the local competition there the camry is marketed as some executive sedan while in the US it's an uber vehicle or something especially with the base model.

Yes! The Remote Connect feature of my 2023 Camry XSE V6 had to pay $80 yr. plus tax. after the 1 yr. trial as it is the only real Subscription you need since the others have little value. The Eye monitor recognition scanner would drive everyone up the wall plus goofy placement and design. The Infotainment screen is larger and upgraded but it is not always better. I like the idea of having a Fully Digital Instrument Cluster, however, it appears to have its setbacks just like the infotainment system. No improvement in the JBL "not premium" Sound system. The cheap plastic interior is for the birds still and the seat belt buckle banging against the panel just get a padded seat belt cover for the strap. No improvement to the Heads Up Display for Brightness, Colors, Positioning, and Resolution. Weak resolution for Backup Camera. Sorry, not the first time having to comment in one of Kirk's reviews, but I hate all Hybrids and EVs. I have a fully loaded Camry XSE 3.5L V6. I feel Toyota failed severely with its 9th Generation Camry since my perception is Toyota's new 2025 design is ugly inside and out. The 2 Positives are the fully digital instrument cluster display and Toyota Safety Sense 3.0. I would take the Lexus ES-350 (V6) or 350 F-Sport (V6) over any Camry Hybrid model. If I had to buy a new 2025 Camry, definitely would not be the lowest Trim LE which is 100 percent garbage but the SE and XSE. The LE and XLE pretty much provide nothing so why get them. My 2023 Camry XSE V6 fully loaded MSRP $41,305. A 2025 Camry XSE Hybrid fully loaded MSRP is nearly $42,000 costing more than my wonderful V6. Toyota is just ripping everyone off these days. Believe the Mazda CX-5 and CX-50 are a better buy than any vehicle Toyota is placing on the market for 2025. Likely have to move up to the Lexus brand for a decent vehicle. Honda is doing rather bad, the 11th Gen. Civic is not doing so well in its reliability as expected and the Honda Accord might not see another year of production. In my 2023, got the Ottocast Picasou 2 Pro for wireless Apple Car Play and Android Auto, add an Amazon Fire TV Stick 4K Max inserted in the Picasou 2 Pro HDMI input and be amazed how your Infotainment Screen been Transformed to watch videos and no longer have limited Apps but Unlimited Apps. Also Picasou 2 Pro has an HDMI Output to connect external monitors, notebook, tablet, and for kids to watch stuff in the back seat. Get the Deja Vue Plus App ($30 mo.) watch Live TV, Live Sports any sport just name it does not matter where broadcast or blackout, Movies, TV shows complete seasons and episodes. Use your Smartphone for a Wi-Fi Hotspot then you don't need a SIM card.

Carplay has an icon in the top left corner that allows you to see the row of Toyota options to the left of the Carplay section of the screen. Wireless charging also reportedly works better with iPhones than others.

Kirk, please do a “nitpick” video when you get a Crown Signia Limited for review. We really need these types of videos bc no regular test drive can convey these things. I wanted the front cameras and parking assist but I hadn’t realized the accompanying front cross traffic alerts were so annoying. This is a honestly a great video.

New Camry is kinda ugly…

And BMW is considering charging you the monthly rental for the heated steering wheel and heated seats. It's going bad

I have the same car. When I'm on the interstate, where the road is paved with parallel grooves in the concrete to improve traction, The "Lane Keep Assist" will seem to fight with the steering like it doesn't know how to handle the road. The system will keep you in the lane, but the wheel wants to turn in a slight left-to-right fashion repeatedly.

Whole Foods is Kirk's top shortcut on Google Maps. Its getting real in the Whole Foods parking lot.........

Just bought an LE and have one for you: Driving, listening to the radio (youtube thru apple car play) and I get a text message. The radio continues to play as it reads the text message, which I can barely hear, and then asks me if I want to reply.

I would disable all annoying features and concentrate on safe driving. No subscriptions for me. Buying a car is a one time purchase. Great video!

Thanks for the Camry videos!! Really helpful for me as I'm waiting for my delivery and wondering about a lot of this stuff

I have a 2025 XLE. And a pixel phone. No charging issues at all. The speaker rattling I would bring back, my car is quiet. And I think the shiney black on the passenger vents is nice :-)

Kirk, Save the money and get the LE. 😁

Does it have the build quality of the ES though Kirk? I know it has less than half the body laser weld points for rigidity so I don’t see how the build quality could be as good. I doubt there’s much ever speaker rattles in ES with Mark Levinson.

I am so glad that you are really giving the viewer a honest description of the things that SUCK in what Toyota is doing and not just the good that should be in these expensive vehicles

I own a 2025 XLE, I agree with your concerns and I also agree with you as to the pleasure of the car. Got almost 1700 miles on the car and so far so good!!

Soooo on my 2019 Camry you don’t need the subscription for remote start. You can use the fob to remote start. Key fob: Press the LOCK button on your key fob three times: Press the LOCK button quickly Press the LOCK button again quickly within one second Press and hold the LOCK button for about three seconds until you see a flashing light.

Dear Toyota. Subscription stuff is tacky. It's offensive and leaves a bad taste. Why would you want to annoy your customers and sully your reputation like that? I look to you to be better than other companies who stoop to that level.

I have a 2025 SE. Try lifting the driver side wiper to clean your windshield. Not possible, it hits the hood. Look at the sun visor hinges. Exposed screw heads in a car that costs this much?

Would take the 2025 Camry Hybrid over the 2025 Honda Civic Hybrid?. I’m still undecided over which one to get out of the two.

At the end you said the seats are not very comfortable? But you didn’t mention that earlier. To me that’s a bigger deal than everything else.

Ein Toyota Camry wird nie besser als ein Lexus ES sein,aber es ist ein super Auto das mehr bietet als erwartet.Für Familien ist er der bessere Kompromiss Der Lexus ist ein feiner Flanieren für Menschen die perfektion und Luxus lieben.

The rear sub also rattles the shelf its mounted in. Same problem they have known about since the 2018 model.

Thanks goodness I got my NX before they started fitting that eye monitor nanny nonsense to everything. I had a UX300h as a courtesy car a few weeks ago, and it drove me nuts 😂 Yes you can turn those features off, but a lot of them come back on next time you start the car, at least with my NX once I turn them off, they stay off. I just hope they don’t do an over-the-air downdate and mess that up at some point.

When turning DMC off, will it stay off permanently? Or does it default to "on" at each car start and must you turn it off each time?

agreed on the wireless charger. I have an iPhone and it constantly connects and disconnects. Wish I could just turn it off.

I have a hard time getting my seat belt as well. It's hard to grab the buckle because it's so close to the seat.

I have a few too.. and I just bought one.. 2025 XLE Its hard to grab the seat belt since it hugs the side so tight.. I dont like the glossy black either.. The screen is so unintuitive - I cant find the Android Auto screen.. The Seat retracts backwards every time its switched to off.. and goes forward when started. I heard there was a way to disable it but I havent found it .. The Head up display is annoying.. The dealer showed me how to dim it but it seems to only have 2 settings.. and if I want to switch during the day Id have to hunt thru the menus.. The Owners manuals are like 4 inches thick.. The glove box is tiny and hard to reach.. The warning beeps are annoying The Lane assist meanders til the edge of the road and then seems to over correct.. I had a Honda Civic Touring and it was a classy intuitive interior and controls. The Lane assist was spot on and secure feeling.. The Eyeball monitor keeps telling me to sit up - even when I havent moved. The Key Fob doesnt have much range. - I was told the remote start was 3 years but dealer guy told me it keeps working beyond 5 years. The App on the Phone dies in a year and requires 8 dollar a month.. F that.. The seat has a fan in it.. and the fan blade rubs on something in there.. esp if you push back into the seat.. The stereo is eh even with the 9 speaker JBLs.. but I have totally tweaked it but I have a feeling it aint that great even at its best. The Hybrid part is new to me so its kinda weird how it keeps switching between engine and Electric motor. Thats all for now.. lol..

never had a good wireless charger in any of my cars and I've had a couple. I think they are all just bad.

I have the 2025 Camry SE and I totally agree the seats are very very uncomfortable..and I share some of the same issues you have... I don't like .the speakers they sound really bad in my car too, the rattle on the right side of my door drives me crazy. I took out a lot of the base but I can still here the rattle...if I have passengers in the backseat they can barely hear any sound coming from the speaker's in the back

I don’t see why the American version Camry can not be designed just as good as the Chinese-market version Camrys. 😮

I prefer models with fewer "e-Toys" that distract, annoy and cost you plenty at purchase. I would despise that giant screen. Yeah, l'm sounding like my dad when he first saw cruise control!😂

For an all hybrid lineup, idk how Toyota completely skipped over have some kind of energy, hybrid battery monitor in the software. 😂

Hi, I like your videos, the way you explain is so good...I have a question: did toyota recall the 2025 camry and other vehicles? Today I have seen a article on Google that states toyota has issued a recall. Could you please confirm if it's true or not as I have booked a 2025 camry xse...thanks a lot in advance ❤

Definitely not sold on the Camry. The k5 looks better and better even though it has less MPG.

Kirk, I can overlook a lot of tech quirks when I am getting 51 mpg.

I'm considering this or the new civic Hybrid.

All brands have crazy subscriptions- TBH I think is holds these companies accountable to upgrading the tech. Can't wait to get my XSE in a week!

I bet the ES doesn’t have that speaker rattle.

so its not as good as lexus then

Not a great vehicle for giving birth in imo

its probably reason why you dont get the energy monitor bc its a manufacturer car

I don't think you're nit picking at all , those are legitimate complaints. Audiophiles don't mind paying extra for premium sound and a super quiet electric vehicle is the answer to a prayer. And the sound system creates rattling in the door? Unacceptable!

Thanks for all the info on the new Camry. Very usefull to know !!!

One complaint I got is they got rid of the lockable glovebox which was available on every Camry but other than that it’s a excellent car for commuting

Thank you for your honesty!

Thanks for the terriffic detailed review oh well seeing this now after purchasing 2 days ago. good to hear your nitpicks, helps me out as well.

Interesting how this "distracted driver" system deals with sunglasses, photochromic/regular lenses? It's sad that you have to pay for all these systems that eventually you turn off. For me it's also disappointing why Toyota only offers a big expensive package rather than more granuly combined features.

Just bought the XSE and man it's nice.

Previous Gen Camry V6 owner. My biggest gripes are the car beeps at you each time the temperature js below 37F outside to drive cautiously (someone in Florida wouldn't catch that. REALLY ANNOYING for someone like me who lives up north where it's winter for half the year) and you can't adjust the interior temperature without turning the fan on first.

I suspect I will be able to find a lower trim ES350 for a price in the same ballpark as a loaded Camry XSE. With that in mind, I am not sure how the Camry would win out other than the obvious difference in fuel economy.

Speaker might be loose due to it being a Press Car...great takes though ....great reviews

I'lll keep my Mazda and eat the gas milage, thanks Kirk, I actually was thinking about taking it. Are all trims have a cheap interior?

Let me add my gripe here as well: The lowest trim, LE, has the best as mileage of all the Camry trims, because it has the taller tyres. But if I wanted the upgraded stereo with the extra speakers and subwoofer, I have to buy the 2 high trims, it's standard in the XSE, the highest trim - BUT!!!! The MPG goes down, because the tyres are the thinner wider ones!!! And, Toyota WILL NOT sell you the LE trim with the stereo even though I want that MPG. Ridiculous!!!!

My biggest issue is the "packages" OK you want better speakers - well we have some mediocre ones but you have to get a bunch of other stuff just to get that. I prefer a standup phone holder. center storage needs a light, trunk needs about 3 more lights that are BRIGHTER. Energy monitor strange. Shouldn't have to buy a bi direction scanner to fix the functions missing on the key fob. Ventilated seats should be standard. No ANC?

Toyota has THE stupidest remote start function. Not only will I not pay a subscription, but when you remote start the vehicle, it shuts off as soon as you open the door. I get why they did it (because a lawyer was involved no doubt), but I've never seen a remote start SHUT OFF when you open the door. It defeats the whole purpose of remote starting if you have to re start it again once you're in, especially if it's -25 outside!

These days luxury means a bunch of fancy features vs before it meant build quality, no rattles, good materials. Many things are built cheaper and covered up by flashy high tech features.

Very cool…the video that is. and yeah overall what Toyota did with this refresh. Fully down for more posts in this category Kirk

is there a way to make the stereo sound louder? It doesn’t seem loud enough, i have yhe SXE premium package

At the risk of some reddit style flame war.... I am inbetween this Xle, the Honda touring or the k-5. Each has their own issues but at the end of the day the costs are just too dang high. Would it cost significantly less without all the nanny state features? I think all that is need is backup cam and blind spot monitoring.

Recently purchased a 2025 Camry SE for my wife. Great vehicle, but the infotainment system is merely average. I'm also a GM guy. GM's infotainment systems are far more user-friendly, IMO. I also wish the upper sections of the rear door panels were rendered in soft-touch plastic.

I bought a Lexus ES 300h back in December. Thinking on trading it in and go for a 2025 camry. What are your thoughts? Should I take the negative equity loss for a lower payment?

I have the 2025 XSE FWD, but I can’t seem to get anything more than 38mpg… anyone else having this issue?

Do this w every press car you get for now on😉

What really pisses me off, if I want to buy an XSE Camry, I have to buy one with that stupid "Panoramic Glass Roof", at a cost of $1300. I don't want a glass roof and I don't want a regular sun-roof either, so if Toyota is charging $1300 in the XSE for the Panoramic Glass Roof, then why doesn't TOYOTA allow the XSE Camry to have a plain metal roof in the XSE?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is what I want, an XSE Camry WITHOUT a hole in the roof!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wake up TOYOTA!!!!!!!! I don't want to pay for subscriptions either, that's why I don't use satellite radio at all. I won't pay for it. I don't need it, because the car comes with FM radio, which is good enough for me. I will not pay for all these extra stupid luxuries. WAKE UP TOYOTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Toyota claims these are options, which means one should be able to opt-out. But you can't, you are forced to pay for these options. I don't get it. It's even listed on the sticker as options, with separate prices!

I have a crown xle 2024. Should I trade in for a camry xse 2025?

no memory seats?

Sorry it bothers you. I have a 2017 Camry. Love it.

Navigating screen menus while driving is really DUMB technology.

Hope this generation has better panoramic moonroof since previous gen had issues and it cost a lot to repair

Thanks for the heads up 👍