Yeah they didn’t acknowledge their inherent biases.

Those buying these clubs are ignorami. Spin rates etc. are the furthest things from their minds.

@@delhump22 completely agree.

I disagree with the comment they don't think they will perform. People that buy these clubs aren't serious golfers Most serius golfers do know about clubs and their performance. These are bought by people that play only a few times a year imho.

@TheRycooder yeah I mean. . . That's pretty much what I'm saying. Someone who plays a few times a year isn't going to pay custom club prices, because what's the point.

I don't agree insofar as I think there's carryover from people who continue to think the Costco ball is good, when in fact it's quite bad. They make a 3-piece, firm, spinny, urethane ball that is meant to make people believe it is a pro V one clone, but it's truly very very far from that. The marketing is making people believe they are getting a Pro V one clone for a dollar and a quarter ball. But they should be doing is making a more forgiving ball with less spin and lower compression for the average golfer, but they make the opposite of that because they want people to believe something that's just not true. So with the irons, they are trying to make a TaylorMade P790 clone, which isn't even close to what average golfers need. Average golfers don't need a players distance iron, but that's what these are trying to be with lofts that are jacked and distances that are inconsistent and research and development that just isn't there. Why doesn't Costco make a set of good game improvement irons at a good price, which is what people truly need? Again, I feel like people who don't know what they're buying are thinking they are getting an iron that they want at a good price, but they just shouldn't be playing a players distance iron, especially one that simply isn't a good golf club.

This! I remember them reviewing the 1st gen Kirland wedges when this channel was still TXG and they had glowing reviews about it. Now its a total 180. Not sure if I can trust their reviews anymore.

Or the clubs just suck and it’s a joke to think they’re good

@@tomjohns4355what??? That’s your takeaway?? Lmao. Rick shiels testing of these clubs say otherwise. Many out there including him LOVED the Kirkland clubs. To the point you start to wonder how much these major brand companies are fleecing the general population of golfers.

They have said plenty of great things about direct to consumer brands. Why would this be different?

If that was the case they would’ve hated takomo and Calley, I’ve seen every club but the driver in person and they aren’t high end clubs. Not great just good, Perfect for a casual golfer that wants great value for new clubs.

To @24tjricks point, I think this channel has to walk a fine line between presenting product reviews while at the same time selling their products and services. I think it’s a bit misguided to call these “unbiased” reviews as these guys aren’t robots and will have their own personal opinions about the look, feel and performance of any product they test. Just because TXG or anyone has an opinion about any product doesn’t mean it’s the gospel. They will tell you, like most, to test the products out for yourself and form your own opinions.

Anyone with such a plebeian attitude has no business being on any golf course.

@@redpillpharmacy6877 Your life is miserable.

​@@EJRodriguez1yes his life is miserable. He's been inundating threads with similar comments. Imagine being so fragile that you're intimidated by budget clubs...😂

Which driver did you go for? What specs?

I would say yeah probably not with driver but the irons are pure.

I agree!!

@@lawbinson agreed but older Pings are the worst value in used golf clubs imo. You’re often paying for nostalgia and brand loyalty over newer tech

Which model? Something like the i500? i525 are still way more expensive than these in the used market. Wilson staff D7 Forged/D9 Forged are my best recommendations instead of Kirklands.

You can buy them in Costco

@@BadenAW I wish I could but alas they are not in stock anywhere I can find in the US or Canada.

Wedges were harder, I couldn’t imagine playing them on soft soggy turf.

I am glad I wasn't the only one seeing this.

Totally agree and club champion is the absolute worst for fittings. Upcharges are insane when you can can save hundreds going to golf galaxy instead for a similar fitting

To be fair, they did point out that the irons were a decent offering, especially for people looking for a budget or starter set.

@@Kevin-uj4to You should check out the review of the 1st gen Kirkland wedges when this channel was still TXG compared to this current review. It is a total 180 of what they say in this review. Mikey said he wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the Kirkland wedges and the Vokey.

@@aarongee8146I do agree they were very bias but in this review they are using the gen2 not the gen1 they originally used but as a whole this review was a really bad look and was obviously bias cuz they want to make money

I agree. But if you also have the driver you have way too much spin and your budget golfer is most likely going to have a huge slice that’s now enhanced with the spin of the ksig ball. If they play a low spin driver and dial it in then that’s a different story.

Bad quality is never a good value.

@@redpillpharmacy6877 Agreed. I think some DTC brands to provide good value just not the same refinements of OEMs

If this was a fair review, Ian would be trashing the p790s as well, but instead had a glowing review. The p790 pitching wedge has an identical shape to the Kirkland pitching wedge. If these were bad quality, why would why Taylormade have a lawsuit against Kirkland? Also, that driver test was also pretty unfair. I am pretty sure Ian's driver was set to somewhere around 8 degrees.

It's a shame they'll never get a set of Maltby irons in to review. Their quality is right there with the big brands and hands down better than any other DTC. They don't just sell factory re prints like the others. They're all 100% original designs with actual innovation involved. They don't send out free test sets like everybody else. That's why we won't see them here.

I said that because there isn’t a design team. These are being selected from a factory in Asia who make blank golf clubs that can be stamped with any logo. There’s no R&D team working through CAD drawings to refine shape and performance. That’s why they are cheaper, there are less touch points.

Sheils has always fought a big left miss and quite frankly has the ball striking of a 10 hcp

Same as Wishon Irons. Fantastic quality, budget price.

I'd be curious to see them review the Maltby TS1 IM, TS3, and TS4 irons. Other reviewers online seem to really like them and claim they are more forgiving than they look, but I'd love to see what someone with a more critical eye and launch data thinks of them.

They'll never do a Maltby review. A) Maltby won't send them any demo clubs. They just don't play that game (unfortunately) B) Unlike these K-sigs, Maltby is actually better construction quality than TM being fully forged and not just a forged face welded onto a cast body like TM.. and they have the looks too. They would serve absolutely no benefit to Club Champion by having Maltby on.

@@AZstu324 That was my initial thought too - that Maltby is more legitimate competition to CC's offerings, so they probably wouldn't be inclined to test them. But then I remembered that they had tested Takomo and Sub 70 and thought "who knows". ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@@starwf07 yeah they definitely will do the reviews when they're sent a free set but there's always that speculation that the reviews are somewhat skewed due to some kind of business-related bias. I just don't remember seeing any of those other DTC's ever knocking their socks off. This is a very specific reason that Maltby won't send out clubs due to the uncertainty of brand-specific or sponsorship loyalties. Like the old tootsie pop commercials.. "the world may never know" 😜

These are not identical to TM irons, I can assure you of that. That fact that you are going to pick up a set validates my decision to test them on the channel. I’m glad the people who watch our videos will get a chance to see us test them.

@@ianfrasergolf So you're saying Taylormades lawsuit is without merit....?

@@TheSinistercr0c taylormade's lawsuit is they're marketing the speedfoam without actually having the speedfoam

Glitch in the matrix... Did you take the red pill or blue .

😂😂

We didn’t get them from Costco, friend of our had the set and very kindly let us borrow his clubs.

👍🏼, appreciate you loaning us the clubs Elliot.

Bad quality is never a good value.

@@redpillpharmacy6877 quality? That wasn’t mentioned

Was an hour before Rick... But then got pulled and put back on after Rick video.... False start by the lads

If this was back in the old TXG days, they'd be praising the KSig stuff... they initially tested the 1st iteration of the wedges and said they liked them

It was on sale at my Costco a week ago. They come and go. Just got to be looking for them.

We’re in 2024. Yes, the SIM is a few years old. This doesn’t mean it’s inferior. Abandon your chronological snobbery.

the kirkland balls however, they are quality and will save you some serious money…

Yes indeed. Bad quality is never a good value.

Callaway Pre-owned for the win!

No need the the adjective "unconscious". Ian said they looked cheap at 2:05.

@@dbeasleyphx Indeed. I've just watched their 2023 P790 review to make sure I'm not being overly critical. The term 'opposite ends of the spectrum' springs to mind...

They are trash, play them if you want, but they are a joke with that logo.

Remember too that the Costco irons are not on their fitting wall, so they have no advantage and hyping them up as they will never sell one set of these

These are not even close to the quality of P790’s. The boys summed it up best, these present a good value of a new golfer on a budget. If you’re expecting the performance of an OEM, you’re dreaming in technicolor.

Noble souls would never dream of joining any cult following of Costco, since Costco is thoroughly plebeian.

This! There are MILLIONS of used clubs out there perfect for beginners!

Yeah.. If you want clubs beat the hell up then sure..Pay those bargain prices

I think you missed the mark. The great thing about Costco is that if you try it and don't like it, you can return it for a full refund. Can you do the same thing with direct to consumer irons and wedges? I was lucky enough to snag a set of the irons for my brother and they are actually quite nice. Compared to my current set of Mizuno JPX923 forged, they are great for what it is out of the box for a fraction of what I paid. Also, why would you buy a used driver when you can get a brand new one? The shaft can be swapped out because it uses the Mizuno shaft adapter.

@@aarongee8146 Nah, I was pretty spot on. They're okay irons. Yeah you can take them back if you don't like them but that has nothing to do with the quality of the clubs- if getting your money back is your point on the clubs, then you're making my point that the clubs are only okay. As for buying a used driver, a used Callaway Rogue ST, TM SIM 2 Max, or Ping G410 Plus will all cost the same as a new Kirkland driver and perform better in distance and consistency. It also won't have Kirkland Signature written all over it. But you wouldn't be able to take those back though so maybe they aren't any good.

@@bnav21 Ian is dialed right now. He could take a hickory stick club and drop dimes.

Facts

Yes that’s because we choose what we sell….. from all the components in the market we hand pick the best. So if it’s not in our matrix that tells you what we think about it already.

@@ianfrasergolf These are direct to consumer clubs which you would not sell anyway so your point is moot. You made no mention of either the Lamkin grips (2nd most popular manufacturer by sales in the US and Europe) or the True Temper shafts (largest US manufacturer in the entire market), both of which are premium quality (and price) products. Why not Ian is my question?

@@ianfrasergolf I just call it like I see it brotha.

@@Deang97 the irony is, that all we’re doing here also. They are ok from a performance standpoint, missing some key features of a best in class set of irons but at the price it will make sense for some people. That is what’s called “calling it as you see it.”