Kiting vs No Kiting jungle clear - How big is the difference? (2022)

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FnatiQal

FnatiQal

Жыл бұрын

This video shows you the difference between kiting vs little to no kiting in jungle featuring Master Yi
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@FnatiQal
@FnatiQal 2 ай бұрын
I guess I should upload one for season 14. EDIT: Already uploaded for season 14, check it out on the description (Spoiler alert! The gap got even larger)
@rubiusoficial
@rubiusoficial 2 ай бұрын
Yeah do it with kiting and resetting the AA with the W
@SahilP2648
@SahilP2648 2 ай бұрын
Biggest difference is now you can't take blue and gromp at the same time
@sohtnax7809
@sohtnax7809 2 ай бұрын
Hit me up when you release the s14 video ❤🎉 Can't wait. I am eager to learn new jungle stuff
@psychokuca302
@psychokuca302 2 ай бұрын
Would be really cool to see also the fastest clear you can get in jungle rn as yi
@ytchannel-howtooutgrowstutteri
@ytchannel-howtooutgrowstutteri Ай бұрын
Can I ask a question? What is the most efficient way or tips to kite (to get a time advantage)? I mean, the most obvious one is walking in the direction that the jungler is pathing. But there are many more kiting secret tips, so what are they? Do I really need to auto-cancel at each auto with right-click? The problem with this is that it takes a lot of timing precision (and it takes so much mental energy) (basically it's boring to do and wastes my precious time), wouldn't you agree? Instead of wasting mental effort on timing precision, I much rather want to focus on jungle tracking, lane state tracking (abilities used, wave management), etc. Anymore advanced kiting tips?
@X33Ultras0und
@X33Ultras0und Жыл бұрын
It's videos like these that actually teach you the importance of something. Also, the fact he didn't go overboard in the "wrong" one and do literally zero kiting is much more realistic.
@Fyuri
@Fyuri Жыл бұрын
Not any more, welcome to new season jungle
@Elephanthobo
@Elephanthobo Жыл бұрын
@@Fyuri better for the health of the game imo. ive been playing 12 years and jungle has always been my worst role cuz of pathing and kiting ruining my ganks or duels
@Fyuri
@Fyuri Жыл бұрын
@@Elephanthobo cant agree on it, i hate to play jungle not bcs of pulling it to maximum . But when I see ally take my camps while they literally suck and the drag me down leading to throwing it. There is pusnihment for funnel but not vice versa, and it keeps happening over and over again making me not play jungle. 3 days ago i had game where literally 50% of my camps was taken by my team second thing that make people not play it is how people expect jugnlers to 1v5 games. And im not even jungle main
@brocolive1950
@brocolive1950 Жыл бұрын
@@Elephanthobo i mean, if you're not pathing or kyting correctly, you're not playing it right, meaning it's normal you're not having success with the role. I don't get what's unhealthy about someone playing wrong having bad results. Are you saying that someone playing wrong should have good results ? How would that be healthy for the game ? Or are you maybe saying that pathing and kyting shouldn't be what makes a good jungle ? I don't think it's a bad thing, and at the very least I see no reason that would be unhealthy for the game.
@luckerowl8990
@luckerowl8990 Жыл бұрын
@@Elephanthobo imagine if laners didn't have to last hit minions for that exact reason. you can't just make a role completely braindead because people playing it wrong don't get success. pathing is a MAJOR skill ceiling for low-elo junglers, as efficient pathing is the bare minimum required to climb. just removing that to make it easier for them invalidates better jungler's dedication to improve.
@demonofhabitss
@demonofhabitss Жыл бұрын
Best part of this video is how it shows the smallest adjustment makes almost negligible difference at first, but over the course of an entire game it has such a big impact
@locken7948
@locken7948 Жыл бұрын
What is this, chaos theory
@rolandasgrigaitis708
@rolandasgrigaitis708 Жыл бұрын
It's only important in the first clear, less important in second, and then it doesn't really matter since you can one shot camps at this point.
@gecgoodpasi1654
@gecgoodpasi1654 Жыл бұрын
@@rolandasgrigaitis708 depends on the jgler but ye u should still always kite and time ur clear with crab spawns
@aohjii
@aohjii Жыл бұрын
This is why NA players constantly lose to chinese and korean players
@rolandasgrigaitis708
@rolandasgrigaitis708 Жыл бұрын
@@aohjii That's not the reason why... Chinese and Koreans literally spend twice as much time to play League. Doing a camp slightly faster could be one of the reasons, but that's just a drop in the ocean, there's so much more going on than just that.
@moonwatchereclipse5291
@moonwatchereclipse5291 Жыл бұрын
With ranged junglers it goes from important to crucial.
@lertro3048
@lertro3048 Жыл бұрын
ivern be like: i got my friends protected, i dont harm, who needs kiting
@dabasil
@dabasil Жыл бұрын
Laughs in graves
@hipposheep
@hipposheep Жыл бұрын
@@dabasil Wym? Kiting on graves is just as important as on other champions. His clear is healthy either way but it's massively faster while kiting
@johnenderson1368
@johnenderson1368 Жыл бұрын
As a kindred main I confirm, no kiting=death with no leash on first buff
@dabasil
@dabasil Жыл бұрын
@@hipposheep it takes a wise man to recognize a joke without implying its a joke
@loweloking88
@loweloking88 Жыл бұрын
I honestly didn’t know the different in clear speeds was this dramatically different. The run to raptors was dramatically different wow
@FnatiQal
@FnatiQal Жыл бұрын
This video blew up for some reason. Will upload more informal videos like this in the future so subscribe :) That's all for now. Thank you all ♥
@thearchivalist8179
@thearchivalist8179 Жыл бұрын
It blew up, because it's good. Do more.
@paulsad7624
@paulsad7624 Жыл бұрын
Should do default clear without doing groump and blue at the same time cose its kiting You can also do slower clear but full hp and saved smite using W after camp and just before to have passive stacked also Have you tried to stack passive first then use E and use q 0,1 sec before e Ends? I think it might be faster on certain camps
@JustinSiemens605
@JustinSiemens605 Жыл бұрын
It blew up because a jungler posted it in a guide on the Wildrift subreddit.
@BIGBodsta
@BIGBodsta Жыл бұрын
Algorithm gods
@FlipsnFins
@FlipsnFins Жыл бұрын
Algorithm went Hard it just popped up on my feed days later😂
@TheFortySeventhPlatoon4700
@TheFortySeventhPlatoon4700 Жыл бұрын
Always these small channels that make straight to the point but hella educational videos, I love it
@frsoya1088
@frsoya1088 Жыл бұрын
u can actually auto twice a camp before kiting it, the difference is bigger when u do that
@X33Ultras0und
@X33Ultras0und Жыл бұрын
Depends on attack speed right? Maybe for Yi but I don't think it's the same on someone like Karthus or fiddlesticks.
@bermondquentin2456
@bermondquentin2456 Жыл бұрын
@@X33Ultras0und you don't kite se same way with fiddle
@shikhar2327
@shikhar2327 Жыл бұрын
Definitely attack speed dependent
@a.arrondel6379
@a.arrondel6379 Жыл бұрын
Most junglers can auto 3 times actually
@BooelGaymes
@BooelGaymes Жыл бұрын
@@X33Ultras0und why would fiddle kite a camp? he just need to pull the camp to the side he is going
@wxShenron
@wxShenron Жыл бұрын
Nice comparison man
@moozycla6
@moozycla6 Жыл бұрын
Do more insightful videos alike. This is so educational and straight to the point so no time wasted at all. Thanks!
@DadBodFit
@DadBodFit Жыл бұрын
Good video, but one key reason that the clear was so much quicker on the kiting was your target selection, you cleared the two smaller golems first on the kiting example and didn't do this on the non kiting. This gave your kiting example a lead in clear time because of how Alpha Strike works. Point is you should always kite to save hp for trades and ganks BUT the key difference is understanding how a champ functions in the jg and how best to exploit that for clear speed.
@CasualLeague
@CasualLeague Жыл бұрын
Exactly what i was gonna comment, more than just kitting or not, Is the fact that he undersrands perfectly how Yi works, AND how much damage he deals.
@ArantyrDarkhand
@ArantyrDarkhand Жыл бұрын
excatly... do It the same way you Will see Minor Hp different in multi mob camps. nothing more.
@quentinnguyen9120
@quentinnguyen9120 Жыл бұрын
It meant nothing on clear speed in the golem example. In both he smites and immediately q. Whether he kills large or small after that effects HP, not clear time.
@PollameWazzaaaay
@PollameWazzaaaay Жыл бұрын
Yesss was going to comment the same...! Mostly about raptors actually, and hitting small walves too much (burn + red kills them)
@camilledabert
@camilledabert Жыл бұрын
Thanks that's what I was thinking. Now I'm wondering though does kiting really make that much of a difference because sometimes I genuienely don't see the point. If I know Im gonna finish gromp in time for him to heal precisely the amount of damage he dealt and getting me back to full health, is it really needed? That kind of situations
@Ascelius
@Ascelius Жыл бұрын
Not that much difference in hp loss in the first 2 cleasr but the time it takes to travel from camp to camp and how some creeps didnt auto him shows the benefit of kiting
@neodymus
@neodymus Жыл бұрын
well especially raptors and golems, because they are slow and are numerous, so if you do one auto and kite back ennemies will collide and only one will hit you back. This is mitigated on wolves because they are fast, and it is straight up almost useless against solo camps because they hit you back regardless (except if you have a ranged champion like lilia)
@Ace-Vincent-Arevalo
@Ace-Vincent-Arevalo Жыл бұрын
@@neodymus except kayn in blue buff, if he have a red buff he can kite the blue buff without getting hit. I could do that before (2 or more seasons ago) but I dunno about now. I think kayn have a longer range than most melee even if he's a melee range too.
@maschiroib.1692
@maschiroib.1692 Жыл бұрын
11 seconds is MASSIVE in any match, especially early game. Heck, being 1 second late for a counter gank can easily snowball the game from one lane. This is awesome content.
@gabrielpoubel1077
@gabrielpoubel1077 Жыл бұрын
True, time is expensive in early game, with 10 seconds you can gank someone and leave
@skzstyle
@skzstyle Жыл бұрын
Can someone explain me the snowball term in league of legends? Serious question. Thank you!
@Atheau
@Atheau Жыл бұрын
@@skzstyle The idea is that a small lead in the early points of a match can have a big effect on the mid and late game. Probably the most notable example would be getting an early kill on your lane opponent. This both gets you gold from killing them, and loses them gold and exp from not being in lane. That lead gets you your first item and next level faster than them, which in turn makes killing them again easier. In some cases, this can effectively remove an opponent from the game because they'll never catch up to the difference in levels and gold. The origin of the term is that a snowball rolling down a hill gets bigger over time, or in game terms a small lead turns into a larger one as the game goes on.
@skzstyle
@skzstyle Жыл бұрын
@@Atheau oh, now i get it. thank you for the explanation and your time, sir!
@luluplsultmydick4894
@luluplsultmydick4894 Жыл бұрын
with better kiting skill the difference can be even larger
@khoale0107
@khoale0107 Жыл бұрын
This video absolutely earns my respect. Keep it up budy the world needs more ppl like you
@FnatiQal
@FnatiQal Жыл бұрын
Appreciated!
@RTr-nw1fj
@RTr-nw1fj Жыл бұрын
Also good ussage of Q makes difference, dont use it when you have it, wait untill the monster is about to hit you to skip the dmg (red gromp blue, the other three camps have too many mobs to do it)
@thibloki5768
@thibloki5768 Жыл бұрын
not really it's better to use it when you have it to maximise your clear speed
@lefroste6370
@lefroste6370 Жыл бұрын
@@thibloki5768 both i think
@alienstales
@alienstales Жыл бұрын
@@lefroste6370 no, faster clear is the absolute priority in jungle even more than healthy clears
@hipposheep
@hipposheep Жыл бұрын
Faster clear is definitely more important than taking 1 less hit from the camp.
@lefroste6370
@lefroste6370 Жыл бұрын
@@alienstales have you ever seen a master yi clear higher than platinum that did not cancel the red buff's attack with Q? because i haven't
@aizensousuke1200
@aizensousuke1200 Жыл бұрын
My soul wishes all other specific things in league where as detailed as this to teach new players man I've been scar'd from the amount of lack of knowledge I was given on specific situations you should keep making more like this on god
@FnatiQal
@FnatiQal Жыл бұрын
I'll probably do some videos targeted for new players in the future
@oldumben197
@oldumben197 Жыл бұрын
This video is: Life Changing|✅ Informative|✅ Inspiring Heartwarming|✅ Useful Other|✅ Calming|✅ Enjoyable|✅
@LordValph
@LordValph Жыл бұрын
no way is this video heartwarming. idc if it's a bot or a spam lol videos on youtube are not heartwarming
@admaanhason7410
@admaanhason7410 Жыл бұрын
@@LordValph of course videos can be heartwarming, unless if you have a cold heart.
@duranburnett
@duranburnett Жыл бұрын
I was expecting a bigger difference in red buff. The kiting almost makes no difference though, its more just walking to the next camp and also what you choose to clear first at every camp.
@ikaniater
@ikaniater Жыл бұрын
The difference is mostly in multicamps cause as every Monster wants to go first they slow each other to a point where a few actually land their hits
@MinecraftSirJoker
@MinecraftSirJoker Жыл бұрын
Because he kited red wrong here, you shouldnt trade autos 1 for 1, u tank two hites then kite, it saves like 3 aa's on you and its also a bit faster
@El_Bellota
@El_Bellota Жыл бұрын
This, perfectly represented comparison, and the no kiting one is realistic enough, more videos that actually show the differences in mechanics pls ❤️
@nitram.9621
@nitram.9621 Жыл бұрын
All the time you are winning is because you start walking towards the next camp while finishing the other. The biggest HP loss is on the krugs with around 100 hp difference. What you should remember from this video: 1: Win time by starting to walk towards the next camp while finishing the one you do (as a bonus let the passive damage from the jungle item end low hp camps) 2: Only bother kiting on camps that have multiple ennemies, but do not tunnel on kiting, attack everytime you can (krugs and wraiths). It permits to regen hp from the jungle item between AA while taking minimum damage from the camp.
@learnedeldersofteemo8917
@learnedeldersofteemo8917 Жыл бұрын
whats a wraith
@nitram.9621
@nitram.9621 Жыл бұрын
@@learnedeldersofteemo8917 the little red birds
@c_stonem8758
@c_stonem8758 Жыл бұрын
@@learnedeldersofteemo8917 there used to be wraiths before jungle chages
@puckuranus3337
@puckuranus3337 Жыл бұрын
They called raptors now, but they used to be wraiths
@jjwise12345
@jjwise12345 13 күн бұрын
Not much of a League of Legends player, and when I have played it certainly wasn't jungler, but this video did a great job of intuitively showcasing the benefits of kiting to even the weakest or unknowledgeable of players. At first I was like "well he's like not even taking any less damage" but then it got to about 0:49 and I realized just how much more quickly the kiting example was traversing the map. And THEN it dawned on me that things like this are what enables better junglers to have the time to steal their opponent's jungle. Cool stuff, and great video!
@NoA-wp4rr
@NoA-wp4rr 2 ай бұрын
This is why climbing rank is hard when most players that play ranked still need video like this to prove the point of utmost basic stuff.
@josephant9598
@josephant9598 Жыл бұрын
Could you do it on the pbe with new preseason changes? Since they changed the kiteable distance and the pets doesnt attack the camp when you are kiting and only does when you are standing still
@kelmirosue3251
@kelmirosue3251 Жыл бұрын
Kiting is still faster, just not as significantly anymore. However it does make a huge HP difference
@fernandofernandesbarbosa9023
@fernandofernandesbarbosa9023 Жыл бұрын
Why? Pbe is the same thing with lag, its already proven that kiting is better, the only thing is gonna be diferent is the hp from new jungle item
@fernandofernandesbarbosa9023
@fernandofernandesbarbosa9023 Жыл бұрын
And the thing about the jungle pet not healing when you kite is just not true..
@kelmirosue3251
@kelmirosue3251 Жыл бұрын
@@fernandofernandesbarbosa9023 That was an issue when they first dropped the pets on the PBE. But it has been *mostly* fixed since then
@charly30petitnicolas
@charly30petitnicolas Жыл бұрын
@@fernandofernandesbarbosa9023 the Monsters from pbe jungle reset if you kite them as far as in the official server they change the distance where Monsters reset (sorry for my bad english)
@perfectosdesconocidos8011
@perfectosdesconocidos8011 Жыл бұрын
straight to the point no 3 min pointless introduction, just a no bs 2 min video. 11/10
@CoachSagi
@CoachSagi Жыл бұрын
Hey I'm a full time coach and this would be useful to show to some of my jungle students, with your permission :)
@hiimmomo2802
@hiimmomo2802 Жыл бұрын
XD dude just use it wtf
@Mikelica69
@Mikelica69 Жыл бұрын
@@hiimmomo2802 true xD
@FnatiQal
@FnatiQal Жыл бұрын
Sure
@faker3033
@faker3033 Жыл бұрын
dude you can show anything to your students that is on yt
@letsplaybsgo
@letsplaybsgo Жыл бұрын
@@faker3033 It's simply good mannerisms to ask for permission and give credit to the OC
@zaronatic
@zaronatic Жыл бұрын
I like that you actually tested this thankyou for the support
@FnatiQal
@FnatiQal Жыл бұрын
No problem. Gonna have to make a new video on pre season though
@paniser
@paniser Жыл бұрын
Woah, great video mate!
@brycet93
@brycet93 Жыл бұрын
To note here too - he doesn’t actually kite the camps correctly too. You should look to trade 3 autos for every 2 autos from the buff. In the red buff kite, you can see he’s trading 1-1, meaning that you take a bit of extra damage from the buff overall and lose out on some damage.
@yazurah389
@yazurah389 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, you're the only sane person here
@SergeantArxelCone
@SergeantArxelCone Жыл бұрын
It doesn’t exactly saves health but saves the distance traveled to other camp
@bluerum896
@bluerum896 Жыл бұрын
would ranged champs save health by kiting and I wonder by how much?
@user-zg4bk6rv1q
@user-zg4bk6rv1q Жыл бұрын
@@bluerum896 in my experience with kindred the difference is killing the camps with more than half hp and dying to jugnle camps
@SergeantArxelCone
@SergeantArxelCone Жыл бұрын
@@bluerum896 yeah its better for ranged heroes
@Doost311
@Doost311 Жыл бұрын
A thing to note is I still technically consider doing gromp and blue at the same time as a kite based mechanic, you are drawing blue out to be close to gromp and gromp to be close to skuddlecrab/blue -- you just also so happen to be able to them both as well.. Clear speed is going to go down a lot when we can't kite anymore!
@Marth66666
@Marth66666 Жыл бұрын
Theyre changing it?
@vanelord3234
@vanelord3234 Жыл бұрын
@@Marth66666 Yeah, as I know, they made range of jungle monsters being aggressive smaller, in pre season 13.
@farmiluc
@farmiluc Жыл бұрын
Also the little smite guy won't attack if you're kiting
@ytchannel-howtooutgrowstutteri
@ytchannel-howtooutgrowstutteri Ай бұрын
Are there some auto-attacking champs (like Udyr) where you shouldn't kite jungle camps? Or should you also kite (like using auto-canceling at each AA) with Udyr?
@ileanagheorghisor
@ileanagheorghisor Жыл бұрын
What impresses me the most is that you get to be at the scuttle crab just in time with a full jungle cleared as well. Wow.
@Ronin_Wrath
@Ronin_Wrath 2 ай бұрын
very good video never realized what difference kiting made
@cabbagebutterfly800
@cabbagebutterfly800 Жыл бұрын
i think in the kiting one, you should do the trade 3 of your autos for 2 of the camp's auto, so that way, you're not trading one for one auto with the camps, since their base damage is much higher, that way it won't be too strict on the kiting and you'd be much healthier
@SirChristian100
@SirChristian100 Жыл бұрын
Good Video! Also, it would be way longer without doublekiting blue at the "nonkiting" part
@Kickin0u0in0the0nut
@Kickin0u0in0the0nut Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, I always tell my friends they need to kite and and there always like it jsut dose not seem to matter and im like bruh just 3 if u did 3 full clears so second buff spawn your a whole 33 seconds behind or just being 11 seconds late to contest a scuttle
@bonjour9047
@bonjour9047 Жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that the most important thing is when you start the camp not when you end it if that makes sense. If you understand that it will be easier to adapt your clear/pathing/tracking of ennemy jungler. There are plenty of videos about that and if you'd like to train you should pick a champ with an easy and fast clean
@youburntmytoast4478
@youburntmytoast4478 Жыл бұрын
As a new jungler this is actually very helpful. Though I don't really know the kiting range for everything
@FnatiQal
@FnatiQal Жыл бұрын
You can practice the kiting range on practice tool. That's how I did it.
@nadavbartor728
@nadavbartor728 Жыл бұрын
Epic video bro
@matthew-vw3pw
@matthew-vw3pw Жыл бұрын
"how my jng clear looks in my head" vs "how i actually clear jng"
@bluerum896
@bluerum896 Жыл бұрын
how does ranged affect this? obviously the clear speed must be better because you will always be closer to the next camp but it saves health. but by how much? would love to see a side by side variation of this
@neodymus
@neodymus Жыл бұрын
i'd say kitting blue and red will definetly save a lot of HP, there is a lot of space to play around and they are slow Gromp can definitly be kited since you most likely have more range than him (except if you play Lilia :x ) but there is little space to play around so it does not save that much The other camps are as important to kite as it is for melee charachters, because enemies collide between each other so only one of them can hit you back at the same time, and i say as important as melee charachter because you can't take advantage of your range since there is little room to play with (golems) or camps are fast (wolves and Raptors)
@winner1wii213
@winner1wii213 2 ай бұрын
I like how when you're not kiting you can tell that your actively trying to fight your instinct to kite it.
@noPantsOzai
@noPantsOzai Жыл бұрын
the 9 seconds he saved was actually just the time he saved by pulling the camp to the next one while clearing it you can see at the red buff that he was quicker without kiting and hp loss is kind of the same, but threw pulling the red towards the golems he could start them way earlier then without any kiting, he is obviously saving once more time by pulling then the golems to the raptors, the raptors towards the wolves etc, so in the end you can just mention the hp loss from 100 hp, but you would gain the time save aswell without kiting if you just pull the camps along your jungle route
@georgeroth3042
@georgeroth3042 Жыл бұрын
I expected a bigger difference tbh. The kiting clear wasn't just kiting but also perfect yi damage knowledge. Saved a lot of time on the big wolf.
@Darkipafli
@Darkipafli Жыл бұрын
10s and 100hp is actually a major difference
@stevenleblanc8146
@stevenleblanc8146 Жыл бұрын
Would have been a much bigger difference if they didn't double gromp and blue. That takes more than a little kiting. It does show a more fair comparison in a way but there should he a 20 second plus difference since dual clearing requires kiting.
@georgeroth3042
@georgeroth3042 Жыл бұрын
@@stevenleblanc8146 tru
@fuckhead0
@fuckhead0 Жыл бұрын
Even if you save 2 seconds per camp, at 4 camps that's being at a gank 8 seconds earlier, it's a massive time save
@Playdoee
@Playdoee Жыл бұрын
huge vid good stuff
@MrOrthodox13
@MrOrthodox13 Жыл бұрын
Came for a lesson on how to kite, got a lesson on how and *why* to kite.
@iamamad19
@iamamad19 Жыл бұрын
The biggest point is how you timing to finish off the monster while dragging them out of their nests
@yoodira911kim6
@yoodira911kim6 Жыл бұрын
Oky that really smart:) I like it
@AshtranDubs
@AshtranDubs 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info. I still hate the game has gotten so competitive even in regular matches this level of optimization is do or die.
@samuelt8825
@samuelt8825 Жыл бұрын
Can we have the same video but for the new pre saison 13 ?
@AlexandreG
@AlexandreG Ай бұрын
The difference in clear time is positioning yourself on the way out of that camp going to the next one. You can still do no kite and gain a lot of time by just making your way to your next camp before you kill the one you're in
@morgoth2425
@morgoth2425 2 ай бұрын
a great example on how good micro mechanics becomes great macro mechanics
@in_vas_por8810
@in_vas_por8810 4 күн бұрын
Kiting (in this video) is not just about staying healthy. It's also about moving towards your next objective/position. BUT in these new seasons, they made it a lot easier to stay healthy. It also very dependent on which champ you are playing. I'm surprised at a lot of these comments saying "so theres basically no difference" or "how does this save time?" If you think that after watching this vid, it's probably why your grasp of the game is stunted.
@rsprodftw1
@rsprodftw1 Жыл бұрын
I expected an HP difference, but I didn't expect that much of a clearspeed difference.
@hijikatasmayonnaise
@hijikatasmayonnaise Жыл бұрын
sometimes I even ran into the other direction with the crugy bc I was scared of their biggy damage
@milo20060
@milo20060 Жыл бұрын
Maybe a video on ”benefits of riven side step q combo” Because I have tried that many times and really feels like it isn’t any faster to q->sidestep->AA than q->AA
@hugolowon11
@hugolowon11 Жыл бұрын
0:18 here u need just kiting at the end, 0:36 just stand at left like left screen, and kiting at the end, 0:56 just stand in bushesh and kite at the end, 1:19 just kite big one, 1:35 just take them 2, and u will have very similar result, no need to over kite
@delwin1790
@delwin1790 Жыл бұрын
You know it's a video like this that explain that conversation nb3 had with someone (can't think of name). The guy basically told nb3 because of 8-10 seconds in our clear times is how I was able to get the successful early gank off and snowball it from there.
@FnatiQal
@FnatiQal Жыл бұрын
Yep, those seconds saved makes a difference especially in high elo.
@alexfresh8951
@alexfresh8951 2 ай бұрын
On yi it’s so important because you need to bring your stacked passiv to the new camp
@gideonbast9995
@gideonbast9995 Жыл бұрын
I want to see how this works with the new jungle resets
@Max-dv1kq
@Max-dv1kq Жыл бұрын
now it would be nice to say that 10 sec is the average traveltime from buff to a lane so you gained the waytime to gank by playing with correct kitin + killing camps in an efficient way
@nexgenkirabi
@nexgenkirabi 2 ай бұрын
Ngl i never realized how important kiting is, usually only did it out of necessity like if I wanted to play off meta champs who had no right being in jg.
@shawnhaas4862
@shawnhaas4862 Жыл бұрын
Can you do one showing the comparison for graves
@andersonfair5939
@andersonfair5939 Жыл бұрын
Ohhh so this is kiting, I didn't know what it meant but I was doing it so it's good to know a new word, broaden my mind
@regem9121
@regem9121 2 ай бұрын
I’m kinda curious on how much difference full kiting makes from kiting towards the end of clear to minimise walking time
@Leinsterken
@Leinsterken Жыл бұрын
Would ya not consider taking both camps as kiting? You kiting towards next camp and balancing agro deffo advanced stuff.
@paulsad7624
@paulsad7624 Жыл бұрын
Should do default clear without doing groump and blue at the same time cose its kiting You can also do slower clear but full hp and saved smite using W after camp and just before to have passive stacked also Have you tried to stack passive first then use E and use q 0,1 sec before e Ends? I think it might be faster on certain camps
@Itsundiscovered
@Itsundiscovered Жыл бұрын
Hey you kited more than my jungler does!
@FilippoPandaRock
@FilippoPandaRock Жыл бұрын
This is why i ALWAYS kite jungle camps with ivern
@johnnysomething153
@johnnysomething153 Жыл бұрын
Aaand now we won’t be able to do that so sucks to be literally any jungle main that harnessed the skill of kiting over the year ❤️
@SoloSniper_1
@SoloSniper_1 Жыл бұрын
In that amount of time my team has already given up 4 kills and are flaming me because I haven’t ganked yet
@dommaster661
@dommaster661 Жыл бұрын
Maybe you can make a comparison about the simplest wave management: last hit vs pushing.
@FnatiQal
@FnatiQal Жыл бұрын
I'll think about it
@weyzenryanlapor9819
@weyzenryanlapor9819 Жыл бұрын
Every second in the game is important.
@ldz771
@ldz771 Жыл бұрын
Now with 175 range it's even easier 🤙
@cadenmcerlean4920
@cadenmcerlean4920 2 ай бұрын
So from what I'm seeing, beyond positioning to be ready for the next camp, kiting the buff isn't the actual important part, it's the camps that come afterwards that it really matter on
@wiwentor
@wiwentor Жыл бұрын
As a guy playing ivern i will probably never use but still good video
@tachitakai6214
@tachitakai6214 Жыл бұрын
Problem being they are massively reducing the leash zones so you can't farm two camps at once in season 13. They are buffing smite damage to 600 from 450 as a way to balance it I guess.
@m0gul666
@m0gul666 Жыл бұрын
Yeah HUGE, holy shit thanks for illustrating!! That's great
@janisfiorella
@janisfiorella Жыл бұрын
Is incredibly how fast you clean, kitting is all about smart moves and casting, looks like no difference in a couple seconds, but in long periods everything makes sense
@arat8514
@arat8514 Жыл бұрын
can you do something like fighting without grievous wounds against someone like darius or swain
@115Reaper115
@115Reaper115 Жыл бұрын
So. If No kiting yi Just finisher red close to krugs they would have same jungle speed?
@ticorbeau9390
@ticorbeau9390 Жыл бұрын
What is the music name please
@ghosttiger38
@ghosttiger38 2 ай бұрын
The difference is when your team sees you not kiting they start running it down because they've already decided you're stupid and haven't waited to see what you're capable of
@WonderousLover
@WonderousLover Жыл бұрын
Kiting guy was also attack wind up canceling. None kiting guy wasn't doing that until he started kiting at the end of each kill.
@nguyengiang4619
@nguyengiang4619 Жыл бұрын
with good skin and without good skin , it was a big problem
@deadchannel2837
@deadchannel2837 Жыл бұрын
bruh why does this video not have 1 million views at least
@Benjilovescats
@Benjilovescats Жыл бұрын
2 days old
@INBLOOMSK8
@INBLOOMSK8 Жыл бұрын
meanwhile in another line: enemy killing spree.
@samurae7370
@samurae7370 Жыл бұрын
Me playing kindred/talon : *jumps through wall*
@Efsinon
@Efsinon Жыл бұрын
Al final cuando unió al sapo y al blue, kiteó porque eso ya no se permite en la nueva jg
@StainFPS
@StainFPS Жыл бұрын
People gotta keep in mind that Jungle is the Speedrun role. You gotta be the fastest in clearing the jungle, and you have some frame perfect kites, optimized placement to roam around and stuffs to learn.
@leonas9843
@leonas9843 Жыл бұрын
Holy a measely 1.5% improvement, what a deal
@Miyamoto_Jim
@Miyamoto_Jim Жыл бұрын
I get how you can save health _but how do you kill faster by kiting? It’s not like it speeds up your attack speed._ That doesn’t make any sense
@Wikosmoke
@Wikosmoke Жыл бұрын
This is a must in dota
@NiMareQ
@NiMareQ 2 ай бұрын
Interesting how after the first mob they had exactly same hp.
@agus7836
@agus7836 Жыл бұрын
When I started to play with Nidalee, I realised the importance of kiting in the jungle. I died a lot until I'd learned to clear correctly~
@FnatiQal
@FnatiQal Жыл бұрын
Was like that too when I first started playing jungle
@babydragonv2657
@babydragonv2657 2 ай бұрын
has it really been a year since jg item was changed?
@arceopaulsniperjanapin4618
@arceopaulsniperjanapin4618 Жыл бұрын
Time is important in jungle . ❤️💯
@goldroger6151
@goldroger6151 Жыл бұрын
So basically 11 seconds difference and 101HP difference 👍
@FnatiQal
@FnatiQal Жыл бұрын
Yes
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