Klavan Reacts to The Little Mermaid Teaser Trailer

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Andrew Klavan

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Жыл бұрын

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The official teaser trailer for Disney's The Little Mermaid, a live-action remake of the beloved animated classic, has been released to a wave of controversy regarding the casting of black actress Halle Bailey as the main character Ariel. Is any of this controversy warranted, and does the film have any potential to be good?
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@lorijoy720
@lorijoy720 Жыл бұрын
The only requirement for Ariel is that she's an amazing singer. It's integral to the plot and her character. I see (or hear rather lol) why she got the role.
@GopherCakeStuff
@GopherCakeStuff Жыл бұрын
The ratchet can't turn the other way because in many of the instances you mentioned, their race, their culture is actually part of who the character is. You can't change the race of Tiana, Mulan, Black Panther etc. Belle can be changed because her only requirement is to be beautiful and an outcast in her French village. It's that simple.
@fresh_printz
@fresh_printz Жыл бұрын
Egyptian characters, Moses, Jesus, Ghandi, were all played by white characters (whom are real ppl). But a BEAUTIFUL BLACK QUEEN plays a fictional character and receives this treatment! I love it😂😂🖤🖤
@tiag298
@tiag298 Жыл бұрын
Right, but the ratchet only turns one way. YES, in the way of privilege and Caudascity.
@NyssaOwens
@NyssaOwens Жыл бұрын
Give her a role that is deserving. Don't push her into a traditionally white character's role for shock value. That's all this is. It isn't honoring her talent or beauty. It's using her as a prop for social justice. That's not good. That's not creative. Write a new story that is befitting her talent. Don't make her fit the mold of an already established character. That is what you're not seeing. This actress is nothing but a publicity stunt to Disney. It's gross.
@NyssaOwens
@NyssaOwens Жыл бұрын
And yeah, I would love to see just one movie depict Jesus as an actual Jew with correct historical context, but I don't hold out hope because the entertainment industry at large doesn't care about historical context. They care about $$$.
@iy4563
@iy4563 Жыл бұрын
@@NyssaOwens Please this just brought out the true racist of people. This a fictional singing fish. Jesus real BRONZE SKIN,WOOL HAIR. NOT WHITE,blonde silk hair, blue eyes like it's depicted in all the books or Cleopatra being played by many white women in movies when clearly she's not. Between 1992-1994 there was in fact a black mermaid who taught Ariel sign language name Gabrielle. There is no need for people to be bashing this young lady who has done not a dam thing to people over a role in a fictional dam movie. White fear is at a all time high in these racist folks. Shouldn't be hard to believe it could be a black mermaid after all white folks did throw 2 million blacks into the ocean off ships. If y'all complaining about following the original content then where part 2 come from when in original fairytale story she almost killed the prince and she died. Shows how many miserable people in the world.
@apollolancer78
@apollolancer78 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. I wouldnt mind Halle plays a new black mermaid character... Give her a new name, Marina or even Ariella just to change up the version. Everyone would be absolutely cool with that but to use her to play Ariel is doing a disservice to such a great talented amazing individual who don't deserve this flak just because of the shill's left winged agenda. Brandy and Whitney's version of Cinderella is actually the Roger's and Hammerstein's play version not the Disney... (NOTE THAT) So no one complained about the race swapping characters. I didn't even care if Whoopi Goldberg is the queen, Victor Garber is king and Dean Cain, an Asian for a Prince. It's a different story from a different production. Disney shoot itself in the foot this time. I can't wait to see Disney destroy itself when introducing the Latina Snow White in Years to come... That's absolutely embarrassing.
@thesisypheanjournal1271
@thesisypheanjournal1271 Жыл бұрын
Many, many years ago I went to see the New York City Touring Company's production of "Marriage of Figaro." Figaro was played by a Black man. As it came close to the time that Figaro was about to discover his long-lost (white) parents, the singers began giving the audience sly looks that just made the reveal, in all its impossibility, absolutely delicious. I always assumed that the casting of a Black man as Figaro was just based on his voice and his personality, and I never had any objection. If I'd believed that they'd cast a Black man as Figaro just to spite white people, I'd have been very upset.
@DarkroomMedia007
@DarkroomMedia007 Жыл бұрын
I get what you're saying, it is very interesting when they shake up things in either movies or an entertainment World in general if it's organic and a person is truly talented. And just like you said, when people have Shady motivation behind doing some of this stuff and it is revealed, it puts a sour Twist on things and personally I would get turned off. You can't help but to feel like someone's trying to mess with your head. These movies nowadays are cranked out by skin color and race obsessed nut jobs that have no problem coming out attacking the potential audience or fans before the movie even get out into the theaters making threats and slinging accusations, it is really disgusting. Viola Davis threatening black folks to come and see this slave trading train wreck movie is annoying and disgusting also. I won't touch the movie with a 10 foot pole even a bootleg copy from Roscoe down the street.
@briancoffin5831
@briancoffin5831 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for a play about African tribes enslaving other African tribes where the victims are played by non-blacks and chosen for their acting skills. LOL
@Gitn2it
@Gitn2it Жыл бұрын
I have no problem with colorblind casting so long as it doesn't fundamentally change the story or the characters. I also find the casting of little people in a Jane Austen play to be intriguing.
@FlorianD30
@FlorianD30 Жыл бұрын
First of all, the elves in Tolkien's works are white, that's how it's written and that's how it should stay. If they want to have black elves, by all means, they can write their own stories. But the real problem is that it doesn't work both ways. If all they elves in Lord of the Rings were black, just see what happens when you make them white.
@suezcontours6653
@suezcontours6653 Жыл бұрын
Dude Hollywood has been whitewashing characters since their inception. Cleopatra played was by Elizabeth Taylor, Genghis Khan was played by John Wayne, Mickey Rourke was in Asian face for Breakfast at Tiffany's and blackface was a staple of any Hollywood movie during Hays Codes so you're a bit late trying to make a point. This is course correction and let's not forget a REBOOT? You can changes in reboots: Wild Wild West, the Equalizer, Men in Black, Nick Fury were good raceswaps. Funny how white girls get up all in their feelings when their characters are changed but they were petitioning to replace MALE characters like ghostbusters
@loriwyoming835
@loriwyoming835 Жыл бұрын
@@suezcontours6653 And I say the next remake of Blade should be cast using Brad Pitt.
@suezcontours6653
@suezcontours6653 Жыл бұрын
@@loriwyoming835 Vampires movies with white leads already exist... You have Edward Cullen. No need to swap Blade. What's' with the white fragile egos?
@fruitsarelife7073
@fruitsarelife7073 Жыл бұрын
@@suezcontours6653 „It doesnt matter“ when it’s white washing. But when it’s the other way around they freak out. And it’s mostly grown white men. Yet the Main consumers of Ariel are little girls… they are weirdos.
@loriwyoming835
@loriwyoming835 Жыл бұрын
@@suezcontours6653 Why do POC need to appropriate things already existing instead of creating totally new things? Or is it that you ignore that what you want to do is coopt already existing leads? So in that case coopting Blade would be perfectly fine.
@williama9418
@williama9418 Жыл бұрын
Wow, I really respect this person. He was the first person that I’ve seen to give The actress respect for her talent instead of focusing on the way she looked. I actually understand what he is saying and he is right. But I’m curious if you guys have a solution. Obviously major roles for African Americans that are outside of civil rights and slavery are a bit slim. So what should we do? How can they get work unless we share some roles that are meant to be white? Lupita nyong'o has an Oscar but when was the last time she stared in a huge movie as the lead besides Us. I mean I’m all for sticking to the Original whether Black or white but it appears to me that there’s slim pickings for Black actors and actresses. In most instances I like it, such as Red in Shawshank, had no idea he was suppose to be a redhead but I can’t imagine the movie without Morgan Freeman. To my understanding, most stories before the 1960s didn’t really have African Americans front and center. Thoughts anyone?
@adenhawk4029
@adenhawk4029 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t know Halle Bailey could sing (I only know her from grown-ish back when I used to watch tv) but her gorgeous voice gave me chills omg
@jujubee6030
@jujubee6030 Жыл бұрын
You're late. She sang the theme song of the show with Chloe. They have a group named ChloexHalle and have nominated 5 times at the Grammys.
@fruitsarelife7073
@fruitsarelife7073 Жыл бұрын
She started off with singing and later got into acting. In this movie she will combine that.
@ead630
@ead630 Жыл бұрын
I think the real reason why people are complaining about the new Little Mermaid is not specifically because the lead is black, but is actually for two reasons: 1. People don't like Disney remaking all the greats in the first place 2. Ariel now being black changes it from what audience already know. If this was an original movie starring a black mermaid, most wouldn't bat an eye, but because Ariel is already in the public consciousness, people find the change annoying. It's like coming home to find your room has been rearranged
@Mike-zx1kx
@Mike-zx1kx Жыл бұрын
A Dane here. You are on to something. Want my take and reflections? The Danish writer Hans Christian Andersen are one of the most translated, in number of countries, in the world. As a Dane that is just great. Some nations have integrated His fairy tales deeply into their child upbringing. Japan are an example of such a country. If the Japanese would make a local theatre play or a movie based on these fairy tales it would make sense to use their own actors for that. I not only have no problem with that, I find that completely natural and desirable. When the British author, Shakespeare, wrote Hamlet, that takes place in Denmark, it are obvious the characters are white, since the Danes are white, but nevertheless Hamlet have been set up all over the world, with all kinds of races in the roles. I see no problem with that at all. HOWEVER I DO have a problem in relation to Disney and the little mermaid and many of the adaptations they have made, of many of his fairy tales and MY problem are, that they always butcher the stories IF they do not have a happy ending. The morale of Andersen's stories differs and make children and their parents think and communicate, allow them to experience sadness and anger in a safe environment, where these emotions can be experienced and dealt with, in a human and developing manner. In USA, both last generation and now the new, learns nothing by watching "The little mermaid". It all ends well and are so sweetened and plastic like that the original story and its teaching and purpose have vanished. It is sad that American children grows up and thinks all things end happy in the end and then have no ballast to reflect, when they begin to be faced with real life choices as they grow older. They are as children feed either "happy endings" or vicious mass killing murderers. I have read more than once that when an American child reach puberty they have watched an average of over 10.000 murders/killings on TV. Imagine having such a competent fairy tale writer, that his stories allows children and parents to cry together over a sad story, a bonding and learning experience. And Disney butchered it to harmless calorie light candy floss. Just look at Americans absurd discussions about this. The level of that debate are the best proof of WHY they had been better served with Andersen´s original stories and not Disney sugarfilled blur. I though do recall when predomiantly black in urban USA invented rap. It had a global appeal and fast spread as a cultural and musical phenomenon. Then I remember that many blacks did not recognise other cultures attempt of their rap. They trash talked a lot about that and it really did not make sense to me at the time. Why did they not find pride in others taking their musical frame to heart? As a Dane I am proud, if other cultures can be enriched by fairy tales written by a Dane and I embrace if they want to take it to heart locally and make local adaptation BUT changing the very fabric of the story to always provide a happy ending makes no sense to me. I feel sorry for the debate level that have surrounded this. First Disney adaptation were a crime and so are the new, but because they butcher the story, not because what colour the skin of the mermaid have. For the interested I can add that Hans Christian Andersen were born dirt poor and ended his life among that times intellectuals, powerful and Royals despite his unusual height and aparte look. It was his art that carried him up in life. A period of his life he lived in Nyhavn (Newhabour), Copenhagen, where the ships that had spent many months in the harsh condition waters from Denmark to Greenland hunting whales, primarily for their oil for lamps. Danish culture had already then included stories of mermaids and their ability to lure ships close to reefs to sink them with their beautiful singing and ability to create dangerous treacherous fog. These sailors coming home from these harsh long jobs with money to spend docked in Nyhavn and more than one drunk sailor could provide Andersen with stories of mermaid encounters. If we rewind time even further back a few hundred years unicorns were the "big thing". Since the Viking age Danes and Scandinavians have been travellers and have had open markets themselves, where people were welcomed to trade, thus we were exposed to many cultures through our many harbours, with international ships docking. The Danish monarchy are more than 1200 years old. The Danish Royal family have a skeleton of a Unicorn in their possession to this date. I believe the only in existence globally that are from that timeperiod, where the folklore about unicorns arose. I am not going to bore anyone with the knowledge modern science today can provide us with regarding that unicorn skeleton. I will stick to the original fairy tale that our Danish Royal family are the only one in the world that have a unicorn skeleton. Lets focus on bringing just a little magic and some real emotions that do not harm into our kids life and let it, and them, evolve from there... I am not going to watch Disney´s butchered version with any kids. I find it useless, maybe even harmful, but I WILL continue to read the original stories of Hans Christian Andersen laud for children if given the option. Now a days it can also serve as an introduction to how people in the past lived. It just are a more healthy and gives food for thoughts. The brain are functioning as a muscle. Use it and it grows. Reflections and thinking about better solutions than it materialised in the sad fairy tale are fibres to the brain. Sugar or fibres. The choice should be easy, but seems, from the general debate level in US, that the sugar feed have been ongoing a long time.
@annt.7785
@annt.7785 Жыл бұрын
Lies
@annt.7785
@annt.7785 Жыл бұрын
@@Mike-zx1kx You seriously have mental problems, it's not that deep, calm down.
@Mike-zx1kx
@Mike-zx1kx Жыл бұрын
@@annt.7785 It is a free forum, you are allowed to write what you decide and in this case you, short and concise, validates many of my points in a beautiful way. I thank you.
@ShadMadRad
@ShadMadRad Жыл бұрын
No... it's because she's black... hence them saying... she can't be black... yall love to sugar coat racist... u said its not cuz she black then listed the reason her being black is a issue
@politenessman3901
@politenessman3901 Жыл бұрын
You are wrong re the Elves in Rings of Power. Tolkien was very specific about his Elves and they aren't black. Oddly enough it is like your Jane Austen (who wrote books about 'made up' people) story - the Elves aren't like that in the world Tolkien created - if you are OK with destroying the mythology, Elves can be anything, but the Tolkien fanbase are not OK with it.
@taylorwest6986
@taylorwest6986 Жыл бұрын
And they could have added darker skinned cast members by writing in some Southron or Easterling characters. But no, that would have required some writing skill.
@politenessman3901
@politenessman3901 Жыл бұрын
@@taylorwest6986 These are people who don't know the source material (I'm hardly an expert) and frankly don't have the inclination to learn.
@Sam_T2000
@Sam_T2000 Жыл бұрын
exactly! the Elves are “made up” beings… but they were already made up many decades ago by a master and originator of the genre, they aren’t being created now by these novice storytellers at Amazon. sure, they _could_ be black, but in Middle-Earth they simply aren’t.
@politenessman3901
@politenessman3901 Жыл бұрын
@@Sam_T2000 The only area where I would disagree is delete "a master" and insert "the master"
@Richardcontramundum
@Richardcontramundum Жыл бұрын
Good points
@Peter_Riis_DK
@Peter_Riis_DK Жыл бұрын
Well, mr. Klavan - I'm willing to bet that H.C.Andersen did not write about a mermaid with any other colour of skin than white.
@iamlegend5190
@iamlegend5190 Жыл бұрын
Little black girls or parents never had a problem with mermaids or princesses being white girls or all super heroes being white men. To see that this is even a conversation shows how the world see black girls. They can't even be mermaids!!!
@Mike-zx1kx
@Mike-zx1kx Жыл бұрын
A Dane here. Want my take? The Danish writer Hans Christian Andersen are one of the most translated, in number of countries, in the world. As a Dane that is just great. Some nations have integrated His fairy tales deeply into their child upbringing. Japan are such a country. If the Japanese would make a local theatre play or a movie based on these fairy tales it would make sense to use their own actors for that. I not only have no problem with that, I find that completely natural and desirable. When the British author, Shakespeare, wrote Hamlet, that takes place in Denmark, it are obvious the characters are white, since the Danes are white, but nevertheless Hamlet have been set up all over the world, with all kinds of races in the roles. I see no problem with that at all. HOWEVER I DO have a problem in relation to Disney and the little mermaid and many of the adaptations they have made, of many of his fairy tales and MY problem are, that they always butcher the stories IF they do not have a happy ending. The morale of Andersen's stories differs and make children and their parents think and communicate, allow them to experience sadness and anger in a safe environment, where these emotions can be experienced and dealt with, in a human and developing manner. In USA, both last generation and now the new, learns nothing by watching "The little mermaid". It all ends well and are so sweetened and plastic like that the original story and its teaching and purpose have vanished. It is sad that American children grows up and thinks all things end happy in the end and then have no ballast to reflect, when they begin to be faced with real life choices as they grow older. They are as children feed either "happy endings" or vicious mass killing murderers. I have read more than once that when an American child reach puberty they have watched an average of over 10.000 murders/killings on TV. Imagine having such a competent fairy tale writer, that his stories allows children and parents to cry together over a sad story, a bonding and learning experience. And Disney butchered it to harmless calorie light candy floss. Just look at Americans absurd discussions about this. The level of that debate are the best proof of WHY they had been better served with Andersen´s original stories and not Disney sugarfilled blur. I though do recall when predomiantly black in urban USA invented rap. It had a global appeal and fast spread as a cultural and musical phenomenon. Then I remember that many blacks did not recognise other cultures attempt of their rap. They trash talked a lot about that and it really did not make sense to me at the time. Why did they not find pride in others taking their musical frame to heart? As a Dane I am proud, if other cultures can be enriched by fairy tales written by a Dane and I embrace if they want to take it to heart locally and make local adaptation BUT changing the very fabric of the story to always provide a happy ending makes no sense to me. I feel sorry for the debate level that have surrounded this. First Disney adaptation were a crime and so are the new, but because they butcher the story, not because what colour the skin of the mermaid have. For the interested I can add that Hans Christian Andersen were born dirt poor and ended his life among that times intellectuals, powerful and Royals despite his unusual height and aparte look. It was his art that carried him up in life. A period of his life he lived in Nyhavn (Newhabour), Copenhagen, where the ships that had spent many months in the harsh condition waters from Denmark to Greenland hunting whales, primarily for their oil for lamps. Danish culture had already then included stories of mermaids and their ability to lure ships close to reefs to sink them with their beautiful singing and ability to create dangerous treacherous fog. These sailors coming home from these harsh long jobs with money to spend docked in Nyhavn and more than one drunk sailor could provide Andersen with stories of mermaid encounters. If we rewind time even further back a few hundred years unicorns were the "big thing". Since the Viking age Danes and Scandinavians have been travellers and have had open markets themselves, where people were welcomed to trade, thus we were exposed to many cultures through our many harbours, with international ships docking. The Danish monarchy are more than 1200 years old. The Danish Royal family have a skeleton of a Unicorn in their possession to this date. I believe the only in existence globally that are from that timeperiod, where the folklore about unicorns arose. I am not going to bore anyone with the knowledge modern science today can provide us with regarding that unicorn skeleton. I will stick to the original fairy tale that our Danish Royal family are the only one in the world that have a unicorn skeleton. Lets focus on bringing just a little magic and some real emotions that do not harm into our kids life and let it, and them, evolve from there... I am not going to watch Disney´s butchered version with any kids. I find it useless, maybe even harmful, but I WILL continue to read the original stories of Hans Christian Andersen laud for children if given the option. Now a days it can also serve as an introduction to how people in the past lived. It just are a more healthy and gives food for thoughts. The brain are functioning as a muscle. Use it and it grows. Reflections and thinking about better solutions than it materialised in the sad fairy tale are fibres to the brain. Sugar or fibres. The choice should be easy, but seems, from the debate, that the sugar feed have been ongoing a loooong time.
@Peter_Riis_DK
@Peter_Riis_DK Жыл бұрын
@@Mike-zx1kx Nej.
@Mike-zx1kx
@Mike-zx1kx Жыл бұрын
@@Peter_Riis_DK Dit tab.
@Peter_Riis_DK
@Peter_Riis_DK Жыл бұрын
@@Mike-zx1kx Not really. 😘
@ehuntley83
@ehuntley83 Жыл бұрын
The elves in the Lord of the Rings, even though they are make believe, are defined within Tolkien’s world as fair skinned. That is the problem.
@purefoldnz3070
@purefoldnz3070 Жыл бұрын
just because something is fictional doesn't mean it doesn't have lore.
@MichaelBuieFilms
@MichaelBuieFilms Жыл бұрын
And because people in hte bigoted past only imagined whites as important to stories, it should never change and forever should exclude blacks. ok...
@ancalagon3043
@ancalagon3043 Жыл бұрын
No Klavan people are mad at Rings of Power because they change so much of Tolkien’s work that this show is Tolkien only in the borrowing of his places and some more popular characters from the first and second age.
@Jaster_Mereel
@Jaster_Mereel Жыл бұрын
Yes. Thank you. He missed the mark with this one.
@greyone40
@greyone40 Жыл бұрын
As long as they didn't screw up the story, who cares? She looks a lot better than the animated version. Has anyone considered that she might be the only actress/singer with the important skill of being able to sing under water?
@rustusandroid
@rustusandroid Жыл бұрын
Elves can not be black. Tolkien ALREADY imagined them in great detail and brought them to life. You understand the amount of detail he went into his world building. don't you? Now to Little Mermaid... AGAIN, a trailer that gives absolutely to information on the movie.
@fruitsarelife7073
@fruitsarelife7073 Жыл бұрын
Yet even he was inspired by the natural beauty and ancient buildings in Ethiopia ( Africa). Ariel sometimes had some carribean elements to the cartoon. So the culture wasnt even really specific.
@christimacc
@christimacc Жыл бұрын
Well said, Klavan!
@DM-rh4ev
@DM-rh4ev Жыл бұрын
The Black Panther point is a horrible comparison because black panther is a cultural character just like Mulan is a cultural character you wouldn't change their race Arial is not you can make her Asian, Hispanic, Black or White
@derivepi6930
@derivepi6930 Жыл бұрын
I think some of the awkwardness comes from a person singing with reverb and very little other indication that she is underwater. There is a certain magic that is granted with the animators brush that is difficult to ignite with more realism.
@jds614
@jds614 Жыл бұрын
When I saw lion king remake I thought this exactly Something about the cartoonishness made the singing work
@LovedByYou
@LovedByYou Жыл бұрын
It’s impossible to sing underwater. Plsss
@kathycoleman4648
@kathycoleman4648 Жыл бұрын
The blessing and curse of original roles designed for black artists is that they are inherently reliant on Blackness to function. THAT's why you can't make Black Panther white or asian or native American, etc. It's a short coming that really limits the overall scope of stories these actors get to experience, because those are the roles they get placed into.
@reginaldfluffington5142
@reginaldfluffington5142 Жыл бұрын
Except that Tolkien described the elves as fair skinned. So.....there is that.
@sdprazak
@sdprazak Жыл бұрын
Remember THE WIZ? Same story and characters as The Wizard of Oz (which was an all white cast). Now with a black cast but unique new settings, great new songs, new backstory, awesome talent (Diana Ross, Michael Jackson, etc.), and I LOVED IT!!! Why can’t Disney do something like that?!
@akibbamallet1681
@akibbamallet1681 Жыл бұрын
why can't there be two little mermaids? what's the problem? I can see if Disney removed the original. This world is soooo petty
@rfahy72
@rfahy72 Жыл бұрын
The Wiz was so bad I remember leaving the theatre before it was over.
@cedricofparis2284
@cedricofparis2284 Жыл бұрын
Andrew, thanks for this interesting and relevant react. I was 9 when I discovered the original Masterpiece still engraved in my heart. Like other billions of people, I'm really excited about this upcoming live action version. Making "The Little Mermaid" Live is absolutely not an easy task, it's even a bit risky. What a visual and technical challenge to imagine, design and create a credible movie telling a such beloved and iconic story. We're talking here about mermaids and undersea magical life & rules. Ariel isn't such a flawless and easy princess, she embodies purity, self confidence, ambitions and indepedance. She can't be reduced to a simple skin color tone matter... Halle Bailey even seems to do much more than matching or modernizing Ariel, she's elevating the character thanks to her skills, talents and absolute beauty.... Now, I can't wait to see her "white" Father Triton, her "million colors" fish & clam friends and the Purple sorceress of the seas of course!
@deniswauchope3788
@deniswauchope3788 Жыл бұрын
While I agree with Andrew that "the ratchet only goes one way," I can't agree that "elves are elves;" Tolkien's well-crafted Middle Earth didn't have black elves, nor women with the strength of men who acted like men (only better and stronger.) Sure, Netflix can do it, but anyone who loves Tolkien won't like the butchery they've done to his wonderful world. As to _The Little Mermaid;_ we all _know_ who Ariel is and what she looks like. This mermaid may be a fine black mermaid, but she's NOT ARIEL. Of course Disney could've made a new movie about a friend of Ariel, or a new movie that wasn't about Ariel at all, with this new mermaid character; but that would have required talent, creativity, and good writers, so they didn't bother (or maybe they just can't do it anymore.) This movie is pandering to the Left; and I'm sorry for that lovely, talented young woman with the beautiful voice- because this retread of a film won't help her career!
@joshmm223
@joshmm223 Жыл бұрын
You mentioned how people are asking “why are you talking about the culture” but I find your commentary on culture to be one of the most engaging parts of your show on a regular basis. I watch your show mostly because I think you have a solid Christian perspective and I enjoy hearing your take on the culture and what’s going on. Just wanted to share that with you. Keep up the good work.
@zachclark1102
@zachclark1102 Жыл бұрын
If a character’s race is part of the story, the race should not be changed. In terms of Disney, for example, that would be Mulan, Tiana, Pocahontas, Merida, and Jasmine. Ariel being a white mermaid had NOTHING to do with the story of the movie… therefore, her race could be changed. Also, in the animated film, the scenery is based around the Caribbean and the Mediterranean, the music is Calypso-based, and Sabastian the crab is Jamaican… therefore… Ariel being black makes perfect sense.
@sup3414
@sup3414 Жыл бұрын
The shilling for this chick as Ariel is crazy. Disney is always bitching about "representation" done right and yet they race swap Ariel? Another ginger? The number one minority group in the world?You telling me that it was so hard for them to cast this chick as Princess Tiana from Princess and the Frog, a role that she is 100% perfect for? Bruh.
@zachclark1102
@zachclark1102 Жыл бұрын
@@sup3414 There are currently TWO ginger princesses. Also, Ariel is not a ginger. That red hair is not natural and there are no freckles on her face. True ginger representation can be found in both Merida and Anna.
@zachclark1102
@zachclark1102 Жыл бұрын
@@sup3414 Also, I explained why casting a black Ariel makes sense in my initial comment. They casted Brandy as Cinderella in the 90s, and there was a black Cinderella on Broadway. Belle was also played by a black actress on Broadway. Ariel herself has been played on Broadway by Asians and Latinas. Why is it any different here?
@maniimanii9164
@maniimanii9164 Жыл бұрын
​@@zachclark1102 ik I'm like so late but I also wanna add to the Broadway aspect. in Broadway it's pretty normal to do "color-blind" casting anyway and considering that Rob Marshall the director came from a Broadway background this isn't anything surprising. They obviously cast by talent (perfect example being Halle Bailey for Ariel) and not typecasting.
@margote7965
@margote7965 Жыл бұрын
I am from England and totally agree about classic books /theatre and historical figures. I love opera but there is no way you can have only Japanese singers singing Madame Butterfly or an Ethiopian singing Aida. However, people are hating on the fact she is black because this culture war has become tribal. All western films used to be geared to Caucasians. There is now a global audience and a willingness to be inclusive. People prefer to see themselves on screen. It took a while for me to adjust. Now I really enjoy seeing a diverse cast. It's okay if you want to only be with your own tribe and no one is forced into watching anything. Stick to what you enjoy and don't try to destroy other people's enjoyment through throwing hate at something they enjoy.
@firesidestories5714
@firesidestories5714 Жыл бұрын
With tolkien fans they knew rings of power wasnt going to follow his work because of the black casting. The elves and people are white because tolkien based his setting off of the nordic areas like sweeden and norway. Thats why it brings them out of it, and second they couldnt recognize galadriel because they made her something she is not.
@DMichaelAtLarge
@DMichaelAtLarge Жыл бұрын
Whatever happened to cultural appropriation? "The Little Mermaid" is a Danish fairy tale, and to make Ariel black is like making Kunta Kinte from "Roots" played by a white actor. I wonder what the left's reaction to that would be? Taking traditionally white characters and making them some other race is a tacit admission that non-white people don't have the chops to create their own stories. Why is it considered a good thing to steal white stories to represent non-whites, when they ought to be coming up with their own great original stories about themselves? That is essentially racism against oneself. "We're not good enough to create our own stories, so we have to steal white stories."
@deyvn3182
@deyvn3182 Жыл бұрын
You're comparing apples to oranges.
@ShineBlade25
@ShineBlade25 Жыл бұрын
Lol it's not cultural appropriation when it's not even the same tale or actual culture inspired maybe but this is Disney rendition. Also white people were in all media because of no inclusion naturally to include others the different colors of people some will change. Also yes white characters will and should for a long time cannot take roles or replace those of minorities. Like what how would that make any sense
@elzoog
@elzoog Жыл бұрын
Not only that, but they are using white orchestral music instead of hip hop or other black music.
@TheLovinjourney
@TheLovinjourney Жыл бұрын
Kunta kinte is a character based in a non-fictional historical era. He was depicted as an African slave. Ariel is a non-existent fictional cartoon character based in a non-existent world. Stop the fear. There's room for everyone. I would however complain if they started putting minorities in roles depicting historical or present day non-fiction narratives.
@DMichaelAtLarge
@DMichaelAtLarge Жыл бұрын
@@ShineBlade25 Yes, we know the horrors of the past. I didn't commit them. You didn't commit them. Today's minorities didn't suffer them. It's an entirely different world now, and there are super-successful people of color all over the place now. So why can't they do their own thing? Why do they have to leach off our past? It's an admission that they don't have what it takes. Or simple hate-filled pettiness. They need to take a lesson from Spike Lee, who didn't sit around waiting for white people to lift him up. He went out and told his own stories of his own people, instead of degrading himself with usurping other people's stories.
@LisaCapron
@LisaCapron Жыл бұрын
It’s insane to complain about the system saying “it only works one way” when it only worked the other way for a hundred years.
@torreemusgrove5234
@torreemusgrove5234 Жыл бұрын
Best comment on here! It's a shame that no one considered that as a natural progression rebutting the argument made in this video. The majority of acting roles in the past went to white persons. Persons of other races were relegated to minor parts. Hollywood never respected historical accuracy except for putting a minor or subordinate character (like a slave) in a historically accurate skin tone. While I do understand that her being black takes away from the point of a remake (bringing the story to life as imagined by many), it's obvious that the hate this is getting is unwarranted. Critics might claim they care about authenticity, but the tone screams loud and clear that 'I don't like that she's black'. At the end of the day, she was OBVIOUSLY the best person for the role. And this is coming from a person that is not American, who couldn't care any less about democrats or republicans, and who knows that libertarianism will likely be the downfall of the U.S. 🙃
@Jaster_Mereel
@Jaster_Mereel Жыл бұрын
Klavan misses the point of the Tolkien fandom's rage at this awful show. (Edit to clarify: the Amazon awful show)
@Maravirocthegreat
@Maravirocthegreat Жыл бұрын
I genuinely thought the exact same when I saw the young actress. Absolutely beautiful talented young lady. Doesn’t change the fact that the ethnicity swap in casting only goes in one direction and there would be outrage if it went the other way. It is a valid critique.
@sani2205
@sani2205 Жыл бұрын
halle auditioned first and NONE of the other actors could match her talent so obviously they picked her since she set the bar so high . Get over it ! its a kids movie ffs ..
@LisaCapron
@LisaCapron Жыл бұрын
But it DID go in one direction for a hundred years… John Wayne as Genghis Khan… Mickey Rooney and Katharine Hepburn played Asian roles… Lena Horne was turned down for a role in Showboat that was a woman of mixed race who could sing and that was vital to the plot. They cast Ava Gardner instead and had to hire someone else to sing for her.
@koolademasta
@koolademasta Жыл бұрын
I thought her teeth looked crooked and one eye was smaller and crooked compared to the other because of the shot angle, and her forbead has some dirt/grim/ or pimples or something
@Sam_T2000
@Sam_T2000 Жыл бұрын
the Elves _could_ be black, but they aren’t in the source material, and there is no door open for them to be, so they shouldn’t be in the show.
@NyssaOwens
@NyssaOwens Жыл бұрын
I think the "colorblind casting" explanation was great.
@annas4843
@annas4843 Жыл бұрын
And hypocritical… If they cast Tiana will it be colorblind or color will be the determining factor? Will we see a white, Chinese, Indian, Latino etc woman being casted for that role?
@NyssaOwens
@NyssaOwens Жыл бұрын
@@annas4843 I think you missed his point.
@annas4843
@annas4843 Жыл бұрын
@@NyssaOwens I think you missed the hypocrisy
@NyssaOwens
@NyssaOwens Жыл бұрын
@@annas4843 it wasn't hypocritical. His point was that if someone was the best option for a role, they should get that role, but when the character is canonically a certain race or a certain look, it's best to keep them that way so as to not distract the audience from enjoying the story. You missed the point, and that's not being hypocritical.
@NyssaOwens
@NyssaOwens Жыл бұрын
@@annas4843 obviously Tiana is a black character and should stay as such! At the same times, I don't want to see an Indian Belle! She's supposed to be French! You're being devil's advocate for no reason at all. There was nothing hypocritical about his explanation to "colorblind casting." The only reason that Brandy's Cinderella worked was because they changed the storyline and songs to make it essentially a new story and not the classic Disney Cinderella everyone knew, and it was fantastic! But that's not what they did here with The Little Mermaid. They didn't write new songs. They didn't change the movie to be "based on" The Little Mermaid. No. They took a character we all knew as a child and made her into something she's never been and canonically couldn't even be. He explained this perfectly when talking about the Jane Austen play he saw where the actors straight up didn't fit what they should look like. Casting that distracts from the story is bad casting, plain and simple.
@armyforafreeamerica7197
@armyforafreeamerica7197 Жыл бұрын
Tolkien describes his characters in great detail. If you know nothing of his literary works...that abomination of his works would look just fine.
@ShirKhorshid
@ShirKhorshid Жыл бұрын
Well actually little mermaid comes from Danish mythology so naturaly she should be white. Just like all characters from 1001 nights have mid eastern characteristics. They only reason they do race swapping one way only is because that they want to get rid of anything white
@philipsheppard4815
@philipsheppard4815 Жыл бұрын
And how many versions of Arabian Nights have been done with white actors and everyone just accepted it?
@penmaster003
@penmaster003 Жыл бұрын
@@philipsheppard4815 An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. It doesn't matter if it has been done before. The cycle can end if everyone just stops doing it. That requires consistent rejection no matter who does it or why.
@Mike-zx1kx
@Mike-zx1kx Жыл бұрын
A Dane here. Maybe wanna hear my take? The Danish writer Hans Christian Andersen are one of the most translated, in number of countries, in the world. As a Dane that is just great. Some nations have integrated His fairy tales deeply into their child upbringing. Japan are such a country. If the Japanese would make a local theatre play or a movie based on these fairy tales it would make sense to use their own actors for that. I not only have no problem with that, I find that completely natural and desirable. When the British author, Shakespeare, wrote Hamlet, that takes place in Denmark, it are obvious the characters are white, since the Danes are white, but nevertheless Hamlet have been set up all over the world, with all kinds of races in the roles. I see no problem with that at all. HOWEVER I DO have a problem in relation to Disney and the little mermaid and many of the adaptations they have made, of many of his fairy tales and MY problem are, that they always butcher the stories IF they do not have a happy ending. The morale of Andersen's stories differs and make children and their parents think and communicate, allow them to experience sadness and anger in a safe environment, where these emotions can be experienced and dealt with, in a human and developing manner. In USA, both last generation and now the new, learns nothing by watching "The little mermaid". It all ends well and are so sweetened and plastic like that the original story and its teaching and purpose have vanished. It is sad that American children grows up and thinks all things end happy in the end and then have no ballast to reflect, when they begin to be faced with real life choices as they grow older. They are as children feed either "happy endings" or vicious mass killing murderers. I have read more than once that when an American child reach puberty they have watched an average of over 10.000 murders/killings on TV. Imagine having such a competent fairy tale writer, that his stories allows children and parents to cry together over a sad story, a bonding and learning experience. And Disney butchered it to harmless calorie light candy floss. Just look at Americans absurd discussions about this. The level of that debate are the best proof of WHY they had been better served with Andersen´s original stories and not Disney sugarfilled blur. I though do recall when predomiantly black in urban USA invented rap. It had a global appeal and fast spread as a cultural and musical phenomenon. Then I remember that many blacks did not recognise other cultures attempt of their rap. They trash talked a lot about that and it really did not make sense to me at the time. Why did they not find pride in others taking their musical frame to heart? As a Dane I am proud, if other cultures can be enriched by fairy tales written by a Dane and I embrace if they want to take it to heart locally and make local adaptation BUT changing the very fabric of the story to always provide a happy ending makes no sense to me. I feel sorry for the debate level that have surrounded this. First Disney adaptation were a crime and so are the new, but because they butcher the story, not because what colour the skin of the mermaid have. For the interested I can add that Hans Christian Andersen were born dirt poor and ended his life among that times intellectuals, powerful and Royals despite his unusual height and aparte look. It was his art that carried him up in life. A period of his life he lived in Nyhavn (Newhabour), Copenhagen, where the ships that had spent many months in the harsh condition waters from Denmark to Greenland hunting whales, primarily for their oil for lamps. Danish culture had already then included stories of mermaids and their ability to lure ships close to reefs to sink them with their beautiful singing and ability to create dangerous treacherous fog. These sailors coming home from these harsh long jobs with money to spend docked in Nyhavn and more than one drunk sailor could provide Andersen with stories of mermaid encounters. If we rewind time even further back a few hundred years unicorns were the "big thing". Since the Viking age Danes and Scandinavians have been travellers and have had open markets themselves, where people were welcomed to trade, thus we were exposed to many cultures through our many harbours, with international ships docking. The Danish monarchy are more than 1200 years old. The Danish Royal family have a skeleton of a Unicorn in their possession to this date. I believe the only in existence globally that are from that timeperiod, where the folklore about unicorns arose. I am not going to bore anyone with the knowledge modern science today can provide us with regarding that unicorn skeleton. I will stick to the original fairy tale that our Danish Royal family are the only one in the world that have a unicorn skeleton. Lets focus on bringing just a little magic and some real emotions that do not harm into our kids life and let it, and them, evolve from there... I am not going to watch Disney´s butchered version with any kids. I find it useless, maybe even harmful, but I WILL continue to read the original stories of Hans Christian Andersen laud for children if given the option. Now a days it can also serve as an introduction to how people in the past lived. It just are a more healthy and gives food for thoughts. The brain are functioning as a muscle. Use it and it grows. Reflections and thinking about better solutions than it materialised in the sad fairy tale are fibres to the brain. Sugar or fibres. The choice should be easy, but seems, from the debate, that the sugar feed have been ongoing a loooong time.
@atticusmcfly
@atticusmcfly Жыл бұрын
Is anything sacred in the 21st Century? Leave my childhood alone Disney! Greedy, unimaginative hacks!
@NyssaOwens
@NyssaOwens Жыл бұрын
That's exactly what they are. Superb description.
@DarkroomMedia007
@DarkroomMedia007 Жыл бұрын
Yeah!😂
@bkucenski
@bkucenski Жыл бұрын
Calm down klan
@Mike-zx1kx
@Mike-zx1kx Жыл бұрын
A Dane here. If you want my "sacred" view. You might agree. The Danish writer Hans Christian Andersen are one of the most translated, in number of countries, in the world. As a Dane that is just great. Some nations have integrated His fairy tales deeply into their child upbringing. Japan are an example of such a country. If the Japanese would make a local theatre play or a movie based on these fairy tales it would make sense to use their own actors for that. I not only have no problem with that, I find that completely natural and desirable. When the British author, Shakespeare, wrote Hamlet, that takes place in Denmark, it are obvious the characters are white, since the Danes are white, but nevertheless Hamlet have been set up all over the world, with all kinds of races in the roles. I see no problem with that at all. HOWEVER I DO have a problem in relation to Disney and the little mermaid and many of the adaptations they have made, of many of his fairy tales and MY problem are, that they always butcher the stories IF they do not have a happy ending. The morale of Andersen's stories differs and make children and their parents think and communicate, allow them to experience sadness and anger in a safe environment, where these emotions can be experienced and dealt with, in a human and developing manner. In USA, both last generation and now the new, learns nothing by watching "The little mermaid". It all ends well and are so sweetened and plastic like that the original story and its teaching and purpose have vanished. It is sad that American children grows up and thinks all things end happy in the end and then have no ballast to reflect, when they begin to be faced with real life choices as they grow older. They are as children feed either "happy endings" or vicious mass killing murderers. I have read more than once that when an American child reach puberty they have watched an average of over 10.000 murders/killings on TV. Imagine having such a competent fairy tale writer, that his stories allows children and parents to cry together over a sad story, a bonding and learning experience. And Disney butchered it to harmless calorie light candy floss. Just look at Americans absurd discussions about this. The level of that debate are the best proof of WHY they had been better served with Andersen´s original stories and not Disney sugarfilled blur. I though do recall when predomiantly black in urban USA invented rap. It had a global appeal and fast spread as a cultural and musical phenomenon. Then I remember that many blacks did not recognise other cultures attempt of their rap. They trash talked a lot about that and it really did not make sense to me at the time. Why did they not find pride in others taking their musical frame to heart? As a Dane I am proud, if other cultures can be enriched by fairy tales written by a Dane and I embrace if they want to take it to heart locally and make local adaptation BUT changing the very fabric of the story to always provide a happy ending makes no sense to me. I feel sorry for the debate level that have surrounded this. First Disney adaptation were a crime and so are the new, but because they butcher the story, not because what colour the skin of the mermaid have. For the interested I can add that Hans Christian Andersen were born dirt poor and ended his life among that times intellectuals, powerful and Royals despite his unusual height and aparte look. It was his art that carried him up in life. A period of his life he lived in Nyhavn (Newhabour), Copenhagen, where the ships that had spent many months in the harsh condition waters from Denmark to Greenland hunting whales, primarily for their oil for lamps. Danish culture had already then included stories of mermaids and their ability to lure ships close to reefs to sink them with their beautiful singing and ability to create dangerous treacherous fog. These sailors coming home from these harsh long jobs with money to spend docked in Nyhavn and more than one drunk sailor could provide Andersen with stories of mermaid encounters. If we rewind time even further back a few hundred years unicorns were the "big thing". Since the Viking age Danes and Scandinavians have been travellers and have had open markets themselves, where people were welcomed to trade, thus we were exposed to many cultures through our many harbours, with international ships docking. The Danish monarchy are more than 1200 years old. The Danish Royal family have a skeleton of a Unicorn in their possession to this date. I believe the only in existence globally that are from that timeperiod, where the folklore about unicorns arose. I am not going to bore anyone with the knowledge modern science today can provide us with regarding that unicorn skeleton. I will stick to the original fairy tale that our Danish Royal family are the only one in the world that have a unicorn skeleton. Lets focus on bringing just a little magic and some real emotions that do not harm into our kids life and let it, and them, evolve from there... I am not going to watch Disney´s butchered version with any kids. I find it useless, maybe even harmful, but I WILL continue to read the original stories of Hans Christian Andersen laud for children if given the option. Now a days it can also serve as an introduction to how people in the past lived. It just are a more healthy and gives food for thoughts. The brain are functioning as a muscle. Use it and it grows. Reflections and thinking about better solutions than it materialised in the sad fairy tale are fibres to the brain. Sugar or fibres. The choice should be easy, but seems, from the general debate level in US, that the sugar feed have been ongoing a long time.
@logic9869
@logic9869 Жыл бұрын
None of you would have had anything to say had she been casted as the fat female villain because that’s a great role for the block woman huh
@SagiFireSirena
@SagiFireSirena Жыл бұрын
You can always look at the original. Most children do not prefer 2D animation. Her sound is from her soul and that’s what makes tears swell up in people’s eyes. She definitely gave justice to the character. It was about Ariel’s voice and she went above and beyond with that voice! Disney is gonna make heaps of money! Congratulations to Halle, I hope this role catapults her career!❤️
@JessiBear
@JessiBear Жыл бұрын
My favorite clip is the 4yo angry black girl telling her mom that "that's not real, Ariel is white"
@legion24100
@legion24100 Жыл бұрын
Ariel is white? Bruh y'all are reaching
@annas4843
@annas4843 Жыл бұрын
@@legion24100 is it bad that Ariel is white since 1989? You have a problem with white characters?
@legion24100
@legion24100 Жыл бұрын
@@annas4843 lol who cares
@TrevorToonArt
@TrevorToonArt Жыл бұрын
@@legion24100 clearly you do
@iy4563
@iy4563 Жыл бұрын
@@TrevorToonArt y'all the ones running rampant with white fear. Hahahaha
@eugenesant9015
@eugenesant9015 Жыл бұрын
What about Anne Boleyn? What about Alexander Hamilton? What about the black woman viking king?
@kaitlint3987
@kaitlint3987 Жыл бұрын
The ratchet only going one way is definitely one of the reasons this stuff bugs me sometimes. I also just get this sense that it will be used as a shield for all criticism
@RobertThorntonWriter
@RobertThorntonWriter Жыл бұрын
The "shield for criticism" is just part of it. They're also expecting Oscar nominations and other awards for their "bravery" of re-making a movie that was already successful. Affirmative action is the most insidious form of Leftist racism, because they tell us it is absolutely necessary for Blacks to succeed, and then when Blacks do succeed, they tell us affirmative action had no role in it. Meanwhile those of us who insist a Black person can succeed without Affirmative action are considered racists while the Left, who think so little of their abilities, gets a pass. It's hypocrisy.
@jukeboxhero5244
@jukeboxhero5244 Жыл бұрын
Maybe you shouldn't let it bug you so much. We're not so far away from people of European descent being cast as indigenous people, middle eastern people, Latinos, and shuffling around in Black face. And it was never done to highlight positives of non-white people groups, it was always for mockery and savagery. As Mr. Klavan said, imaginary/fictitious characters can physically look like anything your own imagination creates. This is no different than Jeanne Crain playing the role of a bi-ethnic woman in the movie "Pinky" or Fisher Stevens playing an Indian in "Short Circuit". I suppose the only difference is that a human-fish hybrid doesn't exist, but non-white humans do.
@bluelightstudios6191
@bluelightstudios6191 Жыл бұрын
it is, it absolutely 100% is and fuckwits on reddit are actually buying up the bullshit that people hate it cause of "racism" or dumb crap like that!
@annas4843
@annas4843 Жыл бұрын
@@jukeboxhero5244 but Jasmine was real and not fictional? Because the same people complained that the Indian lady who played Jasmine was “too white” and that was outrageous. So isn’t that hypocritical?
@TheAmateurPodcast
@TheAmateurPodcast Жыл бұрын
It is and they do. If any movie sucks they put black people or women or gay people or whatever as tldhiekds for their poor writing and directing. Another tool to put the masses against one another and not have their ire towards the people not giving good stories. Disney LIVES off remakes and spin offs and its getting kind of old.
@MSTaeryn
@MSTaeryn Жыл бұрын
You are absolutely wrong about what they're doing to Tolkien and it is an absolute abomination.
@D4n1t0o
@D4n1t0o Жыл бұрын
So, Drew understands that weird production of Jane Austen made it hard for him to relate to the film as he knew the book, but can't appreciate the way The Rings of Power has been made does exactly the same by diverging from Tolkien's original texts? Nor how the Scandinavian tale of Little Mermaid has been ravaged by this horrific production? Inconsistent, Drew. Thought things had to make sense?
@andersonrearickiii6392
@andersonrearickiii6392 Жыл бұрын
Actually Andrew, Tolkien was very clear about what color elves were. In fact, Elrond was considered unusual because he and his daughter had raven hair and he had that because he had human blood. I don't care about black Vulcans but the color issue does play in Tolkien criticism. I actually composed an article defending Tolkien from the charge of being racist, See "Why is the Only Good Orc a Dead Orc?" December 2004MFS - Modern Fiction Studies 50(4):861-874
@onepiecefan74
@onepiecefan74 Жыл бұрын
Klavan is a leftist at heart.
@cathywuehr9901
@cathywuehr9901 Жыл бұрын
Why not take the spotlight by making a brand new original with the star being a black person. This is kind of ridiculous on Disney's part and reaching.
@guilhermemilonesilva2476
@guilhermemilonesilva2476 Жыл бұрын
Have you noticeed that the black little mermaid still has red hair? Apparently Disney didnot dared to go all in. 😰😰
@Mike-zx1kx
@Mike-zx1kx Жыл бұрын
A Dane here. Want my take on this? The Danish writer Hans Christian Andersen are one of the most translated, in number of countries, in the world. As a Dane that is just great. Some nations have integrated His fairy tales deeply into their child upbringing. Japan are such a country. If the Japanese would make a local theatre play or a movie based on these fairy tales it would make sense to use their own actors for that. I not only have no problem with that, I find that completely natural and desirable. When the British author, Shakespeare, wrote Hamlet, that takes place in Denmark, it are obvious the characters are white, since the Danes are white, but nevertheless Hamlet have been set up all over the world, with all kinds of races in the roles. I see no problem with that at all. HOWEVER I DO have a problem in relation to Disney and the little mermaid and many of the adaptations they have made, of many of his fairy tales and MY problem are, that they always butcher the stories IF they do not have a happy ending. The morale of Andersen's stories differs and make children and their parents think and communicate, allow them to experience sadness and anger in a safe environment, where these emotions can be experienced and dealt with, in a human and developing manner. In USA, both last generation and now the new, learns nothing by watching "The little mermaid". It all ends well and are so sweetened and plastic like that the original story and its teaching and purpose have vanished. It is sad that American children grows up and thinks all things end happy in the end and then have no ballast to reflect, when they begin to be faced with real life choices as they grow older. They are as children feed either "happy endings" or vicious mass killing murderers. I have read more than once that when an American child reach puberty they have watched an average of over 10.000 murders/killings on TV. Imagine having such a competent fairy tale writer, that his stories allows children and parents to cry together over a sad story, a bonding and learning experience. And Disney butchered it to harmless calorie light candy floss. Just look at Americans absurd discussions about this. The level of that debate are the best proof of WHY they had been better served with Andersen´s original stories and not Disney sugarfilled blur. I though do recall when predomiantly black in urban USA invented rap. It had a global appeal and fast spread as a cultural and musical phenomenon. Then I remember that many blacks did not recognise other cultures attempt of their rap. They trash talked a lot about that and it really did not make sense to me at the time. Why did they not find pride in others taking their musical frame to heart? As a Dane I am proud, if other cultures can be enriched by fairy tales written by a Dane and I embrace if they want to take it to heart locally and make local adaptation BUT changing the very fabric of the story to always provide a happy ending makes no sense to me. I feel sorry for the debate level that have surrounded this. First Disney adaptation were a crime and so are the new, but because they butcher the story, not because what colour the skin of the mermaid have. For the interested I can add that Hans Christian Andersen were born dirt poor and ended his life among that times intellectuals, powerful and Royals despite his unusual height and aparte look. It was his art that carried him up in life. A period of his life he lived in Nyhavn (Newhabour), Copenhagen, where the ships that had spent many months in the harsh condition waters from Denmark to Greenland hunting whales, primarily for their oil for lamps. Danish culture had already then included stories of mermaids and their ability to lure ships close to reefs to sink them with their beautiful singing and ability to create dangerous treacherous fog. These sailors coming home from these harsh long jobs with money to spend docked in Nyhavn and more than one drunk sailor could provide Andersen with stories of mermaid encounters. If we rewind time even further back a few hundred years unicorns were the "big thing". Since the Viking age Danes and Scandinavians have been travellers and have had open markets themselves, where people were welcomed to trade, thus we were exposed to many cultures through our many harbours, with international ships docking. The Danish monarchy are more than 1200 years old. The Danish Royal family have a skeleton of a Unicorn in their possession to this date. I believe the only in existence globally that are from that timeperiod, where the folklore about unicorns arose. I am not going to bore anyone with the knowledge modern science today can provide us with regarding that unicorn skeleton. I will stick to the original fairy tale that our Danish Royal family are the only one in the world that have a unicorn skeleton. Lets focus on bringing just a little magic and some real emotions that do not harm into our kids life and let it, and them, evolve from there... I am not going to watch Disney´s butchered version with any kids. I find it useless, maybe even harmful, but I WILL continue to read the original stories of Hans Christian Andersen laud for children if given the option. Now a days it can also serve as an introduction to how people in the past lived. It just are a more healthy and gives food for thoughts. The brain are functioning as a muscle. Use it and it grows. Reflections and thinking about better solutions than it materialised in the sad fairy tale are fibres to the brain. Sugar or fibres. The choice should be easy, but seems, from the debate, that the sugar feed have been ongoing a loooong time.
@TheAyeAye1
@TheAyeAye1 Жыл бұрын
Disney hate you. Don't give it money. It's helpful that it seems dead set of strip mining it's older properties instead of making something new.
@whatsafterlike5688
@whatsafterlike5688 Жыл бұрын
It's feels like it's your first time hearing of adaption, in Disney lore mermaid have races and Ariel race is definitely not black, we don't have a problem of a black mermaid Disney should make a original, new character which is black from the very beginning.
@PAPAJOHANNESPATRIOT
@PAPAJOHANNESPATRIOT Жыл бұрын
Disney took the easy way out. They rely on the history of The Little Mermaid franchise. What ever happened to creativity? DC has been having so many characters "come out of the closet" and seen sales go down and down. Why not create a new female mermaid character, perhaps an older or even adult mermaid? Make her black or Asian [native American mermaid?] Or even a Merboy.
@foxyloxy481
@foxyloxy481 Жыл бұрын
My issue with the movie is that it is a Danish story written by a Danish author, H.C Andersen. Anyone that has read the actual original knows it is mention many times in the book that her skin is white, she has a fair skin and as soft as a rose petal, bright eyes. Add to it, in Copenhagen, Denmark is a statue in the harbor of the mermaid. Disney did acknowledge the statue and the culture of Denmark by adding the pose of the statue in the movie. Not to mention right before the exit of the little mermaid ride at Disney California Adventure Park, be on the lookout for a tribute to the Little Mermaid’s original author, Hans Christian Andersen but also Copenhagen's famous Little Mermaid Statue ( Den Lille Havfrue) Who wants to apply as Ariel in any of Disneys theme park? Well sorry you are not qualified, the application points out specifically you need to look like her have fair skin and bright eyes. Wouldn't this be consider hypocrisy? Any colour can play the role in the movie but you can't work in our parks unless you meet the requirements. ( Wouldn't surprise me if they change the requirements to cover their ......) This is not Disney's first time on remaking the movie. Original the movie was made and released 1975 by Toei Animations, Japan. It was showed on Disney/Warner Bros. In 1989 Disney did a remake to a more kids friendly version and lost a lot of its moral message.The little mermaid we know today, or you all know. At the time of the remake of the movie Disney was facing dark times and close to ruin. The little mermaid was the movie that saved them. With out the movie who knows if we still would have Disney today. I don't care if it is a book or comic or history, respect the hard work of the people that created it!!! All I can say is Thank you Denmark for the story and thank you Japan for providing the animations as close to originals. To the rest ,well learn the morals of the true story, true love, selflessnes, you can over come all challenges if you really try and do good!!!!!
@fresh_printz
@fresh_printz Жыл бұрын
🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤 #BlackExcellence
@romeoedwards8230
@romeoedwards8230 Жыл бұрын
Written by a Danish man not American.. if we have to complain then let the mermaid be Danish… why are Americans stealing other countries stories
@palusma1
@palusma1 Жыл бұрын
I think the greater offense is calling this live action...it's just CGI instead of hand drawn
@timbim5505
@timbim5505 Жыл бұрын
I think people are not mad that she's black I think they're mad the reason why they chose the black actress. People don't like choosing One race over another because of the color of their skin because that's racism. I agree it needs to be color blind casting so it's completely fine that she's black. At the casting call if there were white and black actresses auditioning for the part and they are choosing the best one that's the way it needs to be.
@davidwinokur2131
@davidwinokur2131 Жыл бұрын
Ariel doesn't sound like she's singing under water. I've hear that before - it's called whale song.
@Quanic2000
@Quanic2000 Жыл бұрын
I didn't see the outrage when a white Johnny Depp played a Native American in the Lone Ranger 🤷‍♂️
@vernejones3449
@vernejones3449 Жыл бұрын
I see in these comments so many people trying to talk about authenticity to the story but probably the same people didn’t have a problem with a Jamaican crab. What they really mean is ‘stay in your lane, it’s fine when you’re the comic relief, the sidekick or the cannon fodder but don’t get too uppity and be the main character of a fictional story and a creature that never existed. 🤔
@emily43210
@emily43210 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure everyone has a different take on why they're okay with it or not. I don't think it's about having a white main character and black "funny" characters (and that crab wasn't a funny character anyway, he was pretty serious actually), it's about changing a character and calling the character the same thing. At least for fans who might have liked these characters. When I think of Ariel, I think of the red-head. If they had made Ariel a platinum blonde, that would be annoying. Or if they gave Ariel different personality traits. Or if Winnie the Pooh talked like Christopher Robin. Icons lose their iconicness when we don't know what they look like, or sound like, or what they're like. (In this case, they were faithful to the sound, and probably to the storyline, idk). I'm not in love with Ariel the way I was as a kid, but if I were 9, I'd probably be upset that they changed my beloved character. Instead of doing a black remake, they could have done a new character. This just annoys people, and divides them, one side thinking the other is racist, one side thinking the other is being unneccessarily invasive/destructive. Problem wouldn't exist if we add instead of replace.
@SeanDubaiSinger
@SeanDubaiSinger Жыл бұрын
So the narrative is that Disney is tossing political agendas down our throat. Why can't it be that Haily beat out the competition for the role because she is really talented and takes very good care of herself. Who would assume that Disney decided to give a little black girl a shot to spark this controversy.
@sup3414
@sup3414 Жыл бұрын
The shilling for this chick as Ariel is crazy. Disney is always bitching about "representation" done right and yet they race swap Ariel? Another ginger? The number one minority group in the world?You telling me that it was so hard for them to cast this chick as Princess Tiana from Princess and the Frog, a role that she is 100% perfect for? Bruh.
@SeanDubaiSinger
@SeanDubaiSinger Жыл бұрын
@@sup3414 what Im saying is it shouldn't matter. It's a movie for God sake. For children that won't care about the color of her skin! Who cares if superman is Asian, aquaman is Samoan. The fact that you or anyone has this issue with a children's film magnifies a problem in your own mind that you will unfortunately never comprehend. Who gives a rats ass. Live your life, make your money, love, be grateful and let this petty mess ride. This would never had been a thought in our history. Sit back and watch life unfold
@jeremiahshine
@jeremiahshine Жыл бұрын
Time Magazine had a cover of a tanned curly haired kid and a headline of "By 2050 Blondes Will Be Extinct". As a proud dad of toe-headed b/g twins I posted a picture and commented, "I did my part." I was called a racist and lost friends. Which is OK. I'd still stop to help them on the Interstate.
@cescabel
@cescabel Жыл бұрын
I think Disney is trying to correct something that directly or indirectly has influenced many generations. It is the concept of the standard of beauty and what is reachable for you. The people influenced by television (most of the population in the world, if you don't belong to a tribal communities or closed community), the concept of beauty is imposed to you (subliminally) and you tend to associate it with certain patterns of European people. The closer you are to that the more beautiful you are. And by definition that is white. It is also known that movies were done for a public that can afford going to the cinema in the USA (mostly whites), so other etnies were not considered for casting. Now, the audience is more diverse, and with the globalization the movies are expected to include more people from other "races". Also Disney, have created that stereotype of love, and what can you reach, as the protagonists are mainly white, you send that kind of message, that you can achieve that if you are white...I think that is the error Disney is trying to fix now...now that they know the influence they have on children
@blissfulpresent4291
@blissfulpresent4291 Жыл бұрын
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@TheBetterManInBlack
@TheBetterManInBlack Жыл бұрын
If only the casting were colorblind. Rather it's so obviously deliberate as to be its own part of the plot.
@fresh_printz
@fresh_printz Жыл бұрын
🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤#BlackExcellence
@matthewmitchell3457
@matthewmitchell3457 Жыл бұрын
I think that's not the only thing people are reacting to; another thing is that we all know, we all clearly understand that Ariel's iconic look is important. Disney clearly understands that since they took the trouble to dye her hair red. So that just highlights even more painfully and clearly that this is just a diversity hire if they went to the trouble to match the hair color of the original character but not the skin color remotely. The principle is, if you HAVE to do a diversity hire, make it as unnoticeable as possible to the audience, and they've gone and done the opposite by casting her as the Little Mermaid and dyeing her hair red. And now the audience is rolling their eyes back into their heads with the pointless diversity preaching in their Friday night entertainment that's showing through.
@Mike-zx1kx
@Mike-zx1kx Жыл бұрын
A Dane here. Want my take and reflections? Should provide you with some fibres. The Danish writer Hans Christian Andersen are one of the most translated, in number of countries, in the world. As a Dane that is just great. Some nations have integrated His fairy tales deeply into their child upbringing. Japan are an example of such a country. If the Japanese would make a local theatre play or a movie based on these fairy tales it would make sense to use their own actors for that. I not only have no problem with that, I find that completely natural and desirable. When the British author, Shakespeare, wrote Hamlet, that takes place in Denmark, it are obvious the characters are white, since the Danes are white, but nevertheless Hamlet have been set up all over the world, with all kinds of races in the roles. I see no problem with that at all. HOWEVER I DO have a problem in relation to Disney and the little mermaid and many of the adaptations they have made, of many of his fairy tales and MY problem are, that they always butcher the stories IF they do not have a happy ending. The morale of Andersen's stories differs and make children and their parents think and communicate, allow them to experience sadness and anger in a safe environment, where these emotions can be experienced and dealt with, in a human and developing manner. In USA, both last generation and now the new, learns nothing by watching "The little mermaid". It all ends well and are so sweetened and plastic like that the original story and its teaching and purpose have vanished. It is sad that American children grows up and thinks all things end happy in the end and then have no ballast to reflect, when they begin to be faced with real life choices as they grow older. They are as children feed either "happy endings" or vicious mass killing murderers. I have read more than once that when an American child reach puberty they have watched an average of over 10.000 murders/killings on TV. Imagine having such a competent fairy tale writer, that his stories allows children and parents to cry together over a sad story, a bonding and learning experience. And Disney butchered it to harmless calorie light candy floss. Just look at Americans absurd discussions about this. The level of that debate are the best proof of WHY they had been better served with Andersen´s original stories and not Disney sugarfilled blur. I though do recall when predomiantly black in urban USA invented rap. It had a global appeal and fast spread as a cultural and musical phenomenon. Then I remember that many blacks did not recognise other cultures attempt of their rap. They trash talked a lot about that and it really did not make sense to me at the time. Why did they not find pride in others taking their musical frame to heart? As a Dane I am proud, if other cultures can be enriched by fairy tales written by a Dane and I embrace if they want to take it to heart locally and make local adaptation BUT changing the very fabric of the story to always provide a happy ending makes no sense to me. I feel sorry for the debate level that have surrounded this. First Disney adaptation were a crime and so are the new, but because they butcher the story, not because what colour the skin of the mermaid have. For the interested I can add that Hans Christian Andersen were born dirt poor and ended his life among that times intellectuals, powerful and Royals despite his unusual height and aparte look. It was his art that carried him up in life. A period of his life he lived in Nyhavn (Newhabour), Copenhagen, where the ships that had spent many months in the harsh condition waters from Denmark to Greenland hunting whales, primarily for their oil for lamps. Danish culture had already then included stories of mermaids and their ability to lure ships close to reefs to sink them with their beautiful singing and ability to create dangerous treacherous fog. These sailors coming home from these harsh long jobs with money to spend docked in Nyhavn and more than one drunk sailor could provide Andersen with stories of mermaid encounters. If we rewind time even further back a few hundred years unicorns were the "big thing". Since the Viking age Danes and Scandinavians have been travellers and have had open markets themselves, where people were welcomed to trade, thus we were exposed to many cultures through our many harbours, with international ships docking. The Danish monarchy are more than 1200 years old. The Danish Royal family have a skeleton of a Unicorn in their possession to this date. I believe the only in existence globally that are from that timeperiod, where the folklore about unicorns arose. I am not going to bore anyone with the knowledge modern science today can provide us with regarding that unicorn skeleton. I will stick to the original fairy tale that our Danish Royal family are the only one in the world that have a unicorn skeleton. Lets focus on bringing just a little magic and some real emotions that do not harm into our kids life and let it, and them, evolve from there... I am not going to watch Disney´s butchered version with any kids. I find it useless, maybe even harmful, but I WILL continue to read the original stories of Hans Christian Andersen laud for children if given the option. Now a days it can also serve as an introduction to how people in the past lived. It just are a more healthy and gives food for thoughts. The brain are functioning as a muscle. Use it and it grows. Reflections and thinking about better solutions than it materialised in the sad fairy tale are fibres to the brain. Sugar or fibres. The choice should be easy, but seems, from the general debate level in US, that the sugar feed have been ongoing a long time..
@kadeijafrancis5474
@kadeijafrancis5474 Жыл бұрын
Dyeing her hair red? Ok. I’m sure if it was a white woman casted for the role, they would still have to as being born with red hair is in the minority. Which btw, black women can also have.. NATURALLY! 😊
@Mike-zx1kx
@Mike-zx1kx Жыл бұрын
I am a bit disappointed that you or anyone have not taken the opportunity to make any comments to my post/comment to your comment.
@matthewmitchell3457
@matthewmitchell3457 Жыл бұрын
@@Mike-zx1kx Well, okay. I disagree about the fairytale being ruined by Disney; I think that they just adapted it to the culture of the main audience. American society had/has come to expect happy endings in stories, especially ones for kids; the idea was/is that it enhances the "escapism": the idea that you listen to a story or watch a movie to escape from the difficulties of life and pretend for a moment that life is a little simpler and happier. It's a break from difficulties of life; not a reflection of them. That's part of what makes movies a treat. That's something of an oversimplification, and maybe there are different cultures that have different perspectives that are equally valid regarding movies and stories, but that's just the culture that Disney has to adapt to. I think if the original ending were preserved (Ariel getting turned into foam, is it?) children would feel hurt, betrayed, and ripped off, which would be bad for business.
@Mike-zx1kx
@Mike-zx1kx Жыл бұрын
@@matthewmitchell3457 I thank you for responding. "which would be bad for business"....exactly! Disney defined this for Americans and for their business. But culturally all other nations on earth understands that what defines H.C Andersen´s fairytales are their uniqueness in each story. Is it not a shame that the gift of being able to experience sorrow and happiness, and even frustrations, over not seeing justice in a story together with your kids in a safe environment, and the development of a safe space, where deeper conversations and alternative problem solutions can be handled, are lost? Do not get me wrong. I get the escapism part, but are there not plenty, if at all any, alternatives to escapism in "then" USA, as in today´s? Is it not to much, as described, today now a choice between happy endings or "playful funny" violence and mass killings? Could it be that the one country in the world that time and time again sees mass shooting events are not dressing their kids adequately to a, perhaps troublesome, teenage/adult life? Are avoiding all forms of difficult emotions through childhood, even in a safe confident space as bedtime reading of an emotional fairytale, in reality, not letting them down? I promise you that not only will some of his farytales give immediate cause for questions but also open for reflections developing over years, long after the fairytale in itself might be in the background. Life are not always fair. Justice does not always roam. By developing own opinions related to injustice in a fairytale and alternative solutions it could have progressed had someone stepped in at the right time, the kids develop critical sense and an awareness of when to act in relation to unwanted developments happening in front of them. You see my point? Do you also understand why the debate over the colour of the mermaid isolated are very far away from debate levels in many other parts of the world? I recognise USA are a unique country in being a sole immigrant nation. But an entire world have recognised H.C. Andersen´s fairytales as being colourblind and have a global appeal, since they are focused on universal human feelings and hereunder also universal injustices. Could a lot of the issues USA increasingly struggles with, have a chance of a better outcome if the ability to communicate sensibly and seek common solutions rather than confrontations were more developed, integrated from childhood? I consider myself a friend of USA and therefore it increasingly throughout my life have been breaking my heart to see a country in the world with so many options continue to neglect itself and being denied so many of them. There are other options than working non stop and have easily digested escapism on the side. It is OK to feel hurt, on behalf of the character, in a fairytale. It are OK to feel the character were betrayed. It are not OK that Disney rips of the children of the opportunity to feel such emotions and seek alternative answers in their own mind and with healthy developing dialogue with their parents. I am sure Disney can find all the "happy ending" stories they want anyway. Why rip of ALL alternatives. One thing are a real author creating unique art appealing to an entire world, another are a commercial business with shareholders and quarterly earning reports. The little mermaid give up her life and her environment for love and this unhealthy decision ends up costing her, her life. A morale many kids would be well off, with having reflected upon, before meeting adult love. The largest cause of unnatural death for an American male aged 50 to 55 are suicide by gun. USA are only Western nation where actual living length are going down. Americans are the highest CO2 emitting nationals on planet earth per Capita. More people in USA are in jail per Capta than anywhere else on earth. It will take a lot of emphatic, and complicated dialogue amongst Americans if they truly want to prevent above being the case, over time. Being taught tools to have complicated dialogue, where things are not black or white, from childhood are a benefit for all, except maybe Disney, that happily will feed you as much easy sugar they can get away with. Only a true friend will tell you what you need to hear, your enemy will happily stay silent while you fail. Your democracy are in peril USA and you internally need to act now to protect it. Do you have the tools?
@RobertThorntonWriter
@RobertThorntonWriter Жыл бұрын
As one who has done a lot of casting, I don't care if a director says, "I'm going to cast the best actress that fits the part." and the best actress just turns out to be black. I do care if the studio says, "We want to cast a black girl so that if our remake ends up bombing, we can bully our critics as witches, er, I mean, racists." (Because of that bullying, professional critics don't dare give less than 5 stars to the "The Woman King", even though it's a piece of revisionist garbage celebrating a kingdom of African slave traders.) It's okay to cast the best actor or actress, but it's wrong to add race as a criteria when it simply does not matter to the role. Can you blame people for complaining about a remake that alters aspects of the character that Disney itself made iconic? This is why I don't watch remakes. Period. The film industry has lost all semblance of creativity. They don't even have to create new stories anymore. They just take old stories and rebrand them. Disney has done nothing else for decades. They outsource all new ideas to the lowest bidder and we get a movie with great visuals, but zero in the story department. Star Wars is pretty much dead to me, not because of race-based casting choices (I really don't care), but because they've lost any ability to invent a creative plot, let alone be faithful to it.
@Guigley
@Guigley Жыл бұрын
This is yet another example of Disney having nothing but utter contempt for its audience.
@YellowLittleDucky
@YellowLittleDucky Жыл бұрын
Brandy was a black cinderella, and Camila Cabillo is a latina cinderella. Why is it now people are making a big deal about a black ariel?
@narnia1233
@narnia1233 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s maybe difficult to explain, but basically it’s sort of like rewriting history a bit. Both of these stories, The Little Mermaid and LOTRs are definitely set in the past-they don’t have cars, etc. And they’re both clearly inspired by European culture. In The Little Mermaid, I agree that the mermaids themselves could be any culture-though in the animated version it’s I think maybe Roman inspired or something. But, that could be changed. Above ground however with the Prince it’s clearly a historical European setting-a castle, the dresses, the fact there’s a Prince, the European town, etc. And LOTRs too, just about everything is inspired by European culture-there’s castles, knights, medieval dresses, etc. And the original intention wasn’t meant to reflect today’s world-the settings were in the past and clearly based on a certain culture. Of course I guess this might be a point that no one will accept. But, I don’t know if you know this but there’s also been modern retelling of King Arthur (the BBC made a TV show called Merlin several years ago that was actually very good) and they also made a main character black without any explanation. King Arthur you could argue is just a fantasy story-after all there wasn’t any real King Arthur to our knowledge, but I think most people would say that’s a bit offensive. Why? It’s just a fairytale with dragons and mages and such. But, the problem is that it’s a fairytale with a clear setting and it’s a fairytale that originated from a certain culture. And it’s a beloved part of that culture’s mythology, stories. So, even though it’s not real-it still is part of a certain culture. And it’s actually tied to history. Basically you can literally trace back to the time it existed and everything. It’s the same for other cultures too. In Japan they have their own mythology too. I like anime so I know a little. For example they have creatures called Kappas and No Face and Kitsune and much more. They too have fairytales. And it too would be insensitive to recreate one of their existing stories and change the characters to be black, white, etc. and still keep the setting in the past and for all the buildings to be Japanese architecture, Japanese clothing, etc. Basically imagine the characters wearing kimonos walking in a Japanese village (the architecture of the buildings being that of ancient Japan) and the characters all being a different ethnicity except Japanese. Doesn’t that make you feel as though someone is trying to be insulting? That’s basically what I think many people are feeling-and it’s not just The Little Mermaid. That’s very minor compared to what came before. Changing King Arthur, changing Anne Boleyn, changing Hamilton, etc. It goes on forever. People now just spot it right away and are starting to say, hey, why is this being done? And that’s pretty much it. If it’s not meant to be an insult to white people and was just colorblind casting then all they have to do is explain that. Basically all people are wanting is not to be hated. For the history and cultures of others not to be disrespected. That’s it.
@The-Mstr-Pook
@The-Mstr-Pook Жыл бұрын
Well said.
@logic9869
@logic9869 Жыл бұрын
Would you had felt the sane way had she been casted as the fat female villain?HELL NO
@micahcoover6351
@micahcoover6351 Жыл бұрын
@@logic9869 unfortunately that is not a very...logical...answer. if you have a true criticism, let's hear it. Let's put the ad hominem attacks aside.
@lauraw2526
@lauraw2526 Жыл бұрын
@@logic9869 That doesn't make sense. The "fat female villain" was purple in animation, not white or black or any human skin color. If anyone should play her, it's a drag queen.
@NoLimitHonky
@NoLimitHonky Жыл бұрын
It's not 'just a bit'. it's a total change of the original story... remember "Black Annie" and how well that went over? We're just sick of it. Come up with your own 'cultural' ideas if you have any that are good.
@DoctorSargeMD
@DoctorSargeMD Жыл бұрын
The entire purpose of them making Ariel Black is to create controversy and get that trailer seen by more people so Disney doesn't have to spend money on advertising. They put forth no effort in being faithful to the original like all these "live action remakes" they are doing and they know the only way they can make some easy cash is to create controversy and get people to either "hate" watch it in order to criticize, or "spite" watch it to actively go against those who are voicing their complaints about the movie. Also, the ones making the casting decisions for these movies are extremely racist. Gingers(no soul) are the most common white character to be replaced by Black(lots of soul) actors. Why do you think that is? The answer lies within the word Ginger.
@philipsheppard4815
@philipsheppard4815 Жыл бұрын
My main issue with colour blind casting is in historical films and series when it tends to take me out of the production, saying that The Great is full of colour blind casting and it works with the tone of the series.
@aaronw8310
@aaronw8310 Жыл бұрын
It isn’t color blind.. they’re actively trying to eliminate whites from TV.. this is happening in every aspect of the business world. They discriminate against whites in favor of blacks and females.
@LovedByYou
@LovedByYou Жыл бұрын
If that’s the case according to “history” majority of black characters wouldn’t have been allowed to be on screen, or they’d be portrayed as slavery. If it’s colorblind it’s part of the fiction. They did it for Hamilton and it was so irrelevant, Lon Manuel was able to tell the story well, and you learned what you needed to.
@johndrumpf9888
@johndrumpf9888 Жыл бұрын
Really? When you watched historical films and all of the native Americans, mexicans, and even many black people, were played by white people, it didn't take you out of the production? Go watch productions from the 30s, 40s, and 50s. The ratchet indeed went one direction, and that direction was Hollywood giving the bulk of all roles to white people. I'm married to a Chinese woman. When I watched movies from the 50s-60s that supposedly take place in Asia and they have a white woman with eye mascara trying to fake being Asian, it's SUPER CRINGE. It takes me hella out of the film super quick. Here's the thing about the "ratchet". It makes sense to do color blind casting when the race of the character isn't essential. But making Black Panther a white guy makes ZERO sense because Black Panther's character is essentially intertwined with being a black African. The only reason why the "ratchet" goes one direction is, for some people, like say, Asians, if Stan Lee made a comic book hero Asian, it's like 0.001% of the asian heros. To take that one hero and make him white would be depleting the supply of roles by a huge fraction. On the other hand, to take the vast supply of white roles and carve out a few for replacement, does not overall, alter the employment prospects of white actors. It's just not a comparable situation. Imagine after Bruce Lee died, Bruce Lee films continued, only Bruce Lee is played by a white actor. This would feel wrong because in a massive sea of white roles, Bruce Lee had one of the few hollywood careers for an Asian man that was positive (e.g. Kato, and his kung fu films), if you were to make that a white role too, there's be no asian men in starring roles at all. Now, if we were talking Japan, where 99% of all roles were played by Japan in Japanese cinema, and they race-swapped a Japan character using a white actor, there wouldn't be complaints. You saw this with _Ghost In The Shell_ where Asian Americans objected to it, but Japanese people when asked, had absolute ZERO problem with Scarlet Johannsen in the role. And that's because of the context of fact that a majority of TV and Films are mostly white people in the primary roles, and the perception that casting -- even for roles written as colorblind -- is not colorblind.
@andrewm8335
@andrewm8335 Жыл бұрын
Petition to have Ryan Gosling play the next Black Panther
@terrenced.1586
@terrenced.1586 Жыл бұрын
My complaint with this is the war on redheads. Hollywood seems to hate redheads for some reason.
@iy4563
@iy4563 Жыл бұрын
Red heads are beautiful and unique. They come in all shades with red hair. My niece Albino with red hair. My mother bff son black as tar with red hair. A lot of people dye they hair ginger because it's beautiful.
@runrunshaw337
@runrunshaw337 Жыл бұрын
I just had watched the Critical Drinker’s video regarding this. I feel like the two of you need to link up and have a long forum discussion about film
@cesartapia610
@cesartapia610 Жыл бұрын
I second that!
@ericbess5917
@ericbess5917 Жыл бұрын
My only issue with it is that in previous Disney live-action remakes, they have gone out of their way to make the characters look as close as possible to the animated character. That being the case, a black little mermaid isn't in keeping with what they have done historically and therefore comes across as preachy virtue signalling. I don't care that they cast a black actress. I do care about 'why' they did it. Sort of like how Biden rejected many good candidates for VP and for SCOTUS because he was determined to get a black woman in both cases. Klavan talks about a wider talent pool, but that only works if you are open to any talent. Disney didn't choose the best actress for the role, they had already decided she would be black before the casting call. If they were willing to hire the best and she happened to be black, then great and Kavanaugh is correct. Having said that, Bailey can sing (assuming that is her voice), so she may have still gotten the role had it been truly an open casting call, but unfortunately, it will always be tainted by the fact that we will never know.
@juggernaught2115
@juggernaught2115 Жыл бұрын
I dont care about the black mermaid but thinking Disney cares about diversity is absolutely moronic.
@robertlackar
@robertlackar Жыл бұрын
What a great video, Andrew. God bless you!
@LemonAide
@LemonAide Жыл бұрын
My little sister pointed that out, too, so as Brett Cooper. The idea of a black rendition isn't bad, it's just because of our political climate. A black Cinderella with Brandy didn't receive such hate. It's because of our identity politics that pollutes even the simplest and most-cherrished childhood memories 🤔
@BH-mc8zq
@BH-mc8zq Жыл бұрын
No one complained about you guys telling the world that Jesus was White. And he’s not a fictional character. The Long Ranger character was based on a black guy’s life story, “Betty Boop” a white woman copied a black woman’s style/ looks and marketed it. The black woman sued and won her case. Look it you! You all have been charging and stealing stuff since the beginning. So please give us a break.
@mynamename5172
@mynamename5172 Жыл бұрын
It is not color blind casting at all, it only goes one way. The other forbidden way it is called appropriation, another word destroyed by woke. It bugs me and I am one of those women of color who is supposed to like it and benefit from it because I am considered too weak minded to be inspired by people and characters who do not "look like me". Enough.
@mailfraudvoter6620
@mailfraudvoter6620 Жыл бұрын
Waiting for an all white cast of Roots
@michaelneal3162
@michaelneal3162 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree. Andrew seems always on the money, and I have thought so since his pj TV days.
@antilikka
@antilikka Жыл бұрын
No I am actually complaining that Ariel is black. As a DANISH ginger, I’m getting real fed up with gingers getting recast as black. Furthermore, H.C. Andersen wrote her white. She was white in his story. As you say, you wouldn’t make Black Panther with a bunch of white people. Respect the material! Or make a separate black mermaid film, I’d totally watch that, but stop remaking all the gingers!
@GeorgeSemel
@GeorgeSemel Жыл бұрын
I would say that the lady has a wonderful voice. I didn't care about the Little Mermaid when it was a cartoon and I don't care now. I like Jame Earl Jones ever since he was Major King Kongs side seater. It the voice you see. Will I go see the live action version, no. Do I have a problem with that young lady getting the part, no I don't no doubt she got it thru shear hard work and talent Gee's James Earl Jones could play the King of England in a movie and I would pay to see it because its Darth Vader! Some people like to stir the bucket in the othouse just for the stink!
@sani2205
@sani2205 Жыл бұрын
wow nice to see an actual sensible comment !
@NHarts21
@NHarts21 Жыл бұрын
She's very beautiful and very talented. It's a shame that this had to happen to our culture . Little Mermaid has a very distinct look and this casting choice is distracting, but had it not been for this incessant anti-white push to wokify everything, I don't think many people would complain of the casting. I think most people expected a ginger actress to play Ariel, just like you'd expect a black actress to play Tiana. I'd be distracted by a white actress playing Tiana. People see this as a political move, which it is. It leaves people like me with a bad taste in their mouth because they've politicized a beloved childhood movie.
@doubleboe7NYC
@doubleboe7NYC Жыл бұрын
I'm Black and I disagree with you about the Black elves, completely. It's European fantasy, let them have their thing. The Little Mermaid is already a classic film about a half fish little white girl. That's it...didn't need a remake in the first place. I do agree about it never going the other way though. No one is casting a White ginger to be a Wakandan. Whatever, modern day entertainment is trash across the board pretty much. 🤷🏽‍♂️👎🏽
@Mike-zx1kx
@Mike-zx1kx Жыл бұрын
A Dane here. Want my take on this? You might agree. The Danish writer Hans Christian Andersen are one of the most translated, in number of countries, in the world. As a Dane that is just great. Some nations have integrated His fairy tales deeply into their child upbringing. Japan are such a country. If the Japanese would make a local theatre play or a movie based on these fairy tales it would make sense to use their own actors for that. I not only have no problem with that, I find that completely natural and desirable. When the British author, Shakespeare, wrote Hamlet, that takes place in Denmark, it are obvious the characters are white, since the Danes are white, but nevertheless Hamlet have been set up all over the world, with all kinds of races in the roles. I see no problem with that at all. HOWEVER I DO have a problem in relation to Disney and the little mermaid and many of the adaptations they have made, of many of his fairy tales and MY problem are, that they always butcher the stories IF they do not have a happy ending. The morale of Andersen's stories differs and make children and their parents think and communicate, allow them to experience sadness and anger in a safe environment, where these emotions can be experienced and dealt with, in a human and developing manner. In USA, both last generation and now the new, learns nothing by watching "The little mermaid". It all ends well and are so sweetened and plastic like that the original story and its teaching and purpose have vanished. It is sad that American children grows up and thinks all things end happy in the end and then have no ballast to reflect, when they begin to be faced with real life choices as they grow older. They are as children feed either "happy endings" or vicious mass killing murderers. I have read more than once that when an American child reach puberty they have watched an average of over 10.000 murders/killings on TV. Imagine having such a competent fairy tale writer, that his stories allows children and parents to cry together over a sad story, a bonding and learning experience. And Disney butchered it to harmless calorie light candy floss. Just look at Americans absurd discussions about this. The level of that debate are the best proof of WHY they had been better served with Andersen´s original stories and not Disney sugarfilled blur. I though do recall when predomiantly black in urban USA invented rap. It had a global appeal and fast spread as a cultural and musical phenomenon. Then I remember that many blacks did not recognise other cultures attempt of their rap. They trash talked a lot about that and it really did not make sense to me at the time. Why did they not find pride in others taking their musical frame to heart? As a Dane I am proud, if other cultures can be enriched by fairy tales written by a Dane and I embrace if they want to take it to heart locally and make local adaptation BUT changing the very fabric of the story to always provide a happy ending makes no sense to me. I feel sorry for the debate level that have surrounded this. First Disney adaptation were a crime and so are the new, but because they butcher the story, not because what colour the skin of the mermaid have. For the interested I can add that Hans Christian Andersen were born dirt poor and ended his life among that times intellectuals, powerful and Royals despite his unusual height and aparte look. It was his art that carried him up in life. A period of his life he lived in Nyhavn (Newhabour), Copenhagen, where the ships that had spent many months in the harsh condition waters from Denmark to Greenland hunting whales, primarily for their oil for lamps. Danish culture had already then included stories of mermaids and their ability to lure ships close to reefs to sink them with their beautiful singing and ability to create dangerous treacherous fog. These sailors coming home from these harsh long jobs with money to spend docked in Nyhavn and more than one drunk sailor could provide Andersen with stories of mermaid encounters. If we rewind time even further back a few hundred years unicorns were the "big thing". Since the Viking age Danes and Scandinavians have been travellers and have had open markets themselves, where people were welcomed to trade, thus we were exposed to many cultures through our many harbours, with international ships docking. The Danish monarchy are more than 1200 years old. The Danish Royal family have a skeleton of a Unicorn in their possession to this date. I believe the only in existence globally that are from that timeperiod, where the folklore about unicorns arose. I am not going to bore anyone with the knowledge modern science today can provide us with regarding that unicorn skeleton. I will stick to the original fairy tale that our Danish Royal family are the only one in the world that have a unicorn skeleton. Lets focus on bringing just a little magic and some real emotions that do not harm into our kids life and let it, and them, evolve from there... I am not going to watch Disney´s butchered version with any kids. I find it useless, maybe even harmful, but I WILL continue to read the original stories of Hans Christian Andersen laud for children if given the option. Now a days it can also serve as an introduction to how people in the past lived. It just are a more healthy and gives food for thoughts. The brain are functioning as a muscle. Use it and it grows. Reflections and thinking about better solutions than it materialised in the sad fairy tale are fibres to the brain. Sugar or fibres. The choice should be easy, but seems, from the debate, that the sugar feed have been ongoing a loooong time.
@westonmeyer3110
@westonmeyer3110 Жыл бұрын
Based
@dsgarver
@dsgarver Жыл бұрын
Amen Klavin. Just put it out there. The world judges by their own values. Pushing social agendas does not rank well. I don't like over manipulating vibrato but some people do. Just a preference. It's like Karen Carpenter vs Mariah Carey.
@josiahgibbs5697
@josiahgibbs5697 Жыл бұрын
If you are telling a story about a group of people that are fairly tribal then you would expect them to look quite a bit alike. All of the various races in LOTR would be considered essentially tribes. If you put in a person of another race in a group of people who look quite a bit alike then that is its own story. That different looking person obviously came from somewhere else. All the hobbits are short with curly hair. To put someone very tall with straight hair in the the hobbits would be akin to putting in someone of a different race. You could make all the hobbits black and that would be ok, but the group of hobbits should all be the same and this is true of the elves and the dwarves. You could actually use this to help the viewer figure out who is who. I think there are different subgroups of dwarves. You could make all the individuals in the different subgroups one race, and the people in other subgroups another race. It is like color coding the cast. You see this in Romeo and Juliet. The Montagues are dressed in orange and the Capulets are dressed in blue. You don't put a guy dressed in orange as a Capulet; that just makes the story confusing.
@coldstuff9784
@coldstuff9784 Жыл бұрын
Nobody would have had a problem if an original story was made with black elves or black mermaids. The problem is these worlds and characters already existed and they're white. You can go and enjoy it if you want. I just don't like it when these studios try and shame audiences into supporting them or they're "toxic" and "racist".
@edensicking6172
@edensicking6172 Жыл бұрын
I don’t care about her race but I would have preferred her hair be much more red. Actually, all of the colors in this teaser are really muted in an ugly way for some reason. Also, I don’t think this was color-blind casting. I think Disney decided they wanted a black little mermaid before they started casting because they knew it would get them press.
@sani2205
@sani2205 Жыл бұрын
halle auditioned first and NONE of the other actors could match her talent so obviously they picked her since she set the bar so high . Get over it ! its a kids movie ffs ..
@RJUSA
@RJUSA Жыл бұрын
Good point as usual !! and I know I’m the only one who liked the female Ghostbusters ! Especially since Thor was in it ;)
@geridannels1701
@geridannels1701 Жыл бұрын
Surly you didn't get your reaction just based off the little preview to the little mermaid...
@gimmeboobes
@gimmeboobes Жыл бұрын
Also, as you touched on, modern Hollywood has no feel or appreciation of the family unit, how it works and its importance in society.
@DarkroomMedia007
@DarkroomMedia007 Жыл бұрын
I say right on to your last place closing out this video Andrew. I have no problem with someone telling me I need to get up early, I do have a problem with someone berating me and cursing me out telling me that I am a lazy slob to supposedly motivate me to get up early, now that's a problem that I'm not going to tolerate. So these nut jobs in Hollywood can kiss my coconuts trying to tell me to want their toilet movie pushing identity politics showing how obsessed with skin color they are!
@ichigoandrettiofficialjetm4444
@ichigoandrettiofficialjetm4444 Жыл бұрын
i think everyone should just relax😂😂😂😂😂😂 everything is subject to change around here🤷🏽‍♀️
@sandman5211
@sandman5211 Жыл бұрын
Is what you bring at the table. as a European I can play Mozart Beethoven and Puccini and I can beat the drums. But if I have only the drums....
@ecatskid
@ecatskid Жыл бұрын
I don't believe what he says is true because Disney has turned the little mermaid character Ursula black twice in the show descendants and in the little mermaid live stage performance and no complaints so the issue is conservatives want an issue to rally on and if I'm wrong why no outcry over Cinderella which was made 25 years before staring singer Brandy.
@benjaminstecker4924
@benjaminstecker4924 Жыл бұрын
I think they amplify a small group that have a problem with her being black, but it is the fact that they are changing established characters. If she were white but they gave her bright blonde hair instead of red hair people would have complained too! I remember as a kid My friend and I were mad that Annabeth did not have grey eyes and blonde hair in the first Percy Jackson movie. People are always going to be cautious about changes to something they love, the problem is that Hollywood is now weaponizing that natural instinct to deflect and legitimate criticism of their new content as “racist or sexist”.
@briandrake6660
@briandrake6660 Жыл бұрын
U nailed it. It only works one way.
@suezcontours6653
@suezcontours6653 Жыл бұрын
Hollywood has always whitewashed, Dummy. Ghengis Khan was played by John Wayne. Elizabeth Taylor was Cleopatra but clearly white. Mickey Rourke put Asian face for a role in Breakfast at Tiffany's/ The problem is equality feels like oppression to you.
@gregorycollins5888
@gregorycollins5888 Жыл бұрын
Your views are always well balanced Andrew. We had a black actor (we're not allowed to say actress now)! play Anne Bolyn on a BBC production, she is a historical figure and was white, you couldn't have a white actor play Obama, Mandela or Muhammad Ali, but our historical figures who were white can be played by other ethnic groups and that is acceptable!!!!
@alaska4939
@alaska4939 Жыл бұрын
It’d be really interesting if Ariel and all the merfolk looked more scaly, pale, and with gills and like deep sea dwelling creatures. But their faces and voices could be beautiful lending you the uncanny valley of it.
@laurants
@laurants Жыл бұрын
Andrew doesn’t know Tolkien.
@jerrys1
@jerrys1 Жыл бұрын
As someone currently living in Oregon, I can definitely say that you should never come back here.
@svm3224
@svm3224 Жыл бұрын
Agree
@psalib89
@psalib89 Жыл бұрын
every once in a while, klavans takes remind you he is jewish
@blueprince2330
@blueprince2330 Жыл бұрын
A black mermaid? Fine...but a black mermaid with RED HAIR??? Who is going to star in the sequel...a Chinese blonde?
@MichaelDavila72
@MichaelDavila72 Жыл бұрын
Soon as you said rings of power looked good I chose to pass on ur video 🤣🤣🤣
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