Klons, Archers, Tumnus, Soul Food & Klone. What Do We Think?

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Klons, Archers, Tumnus, Soul Food & Klone. What Do We Think?

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In this episode Daniel and Mick take two original Klon Centaur pedals - one silver and one gold - and A/B them against the latest Klon-alikes.
The Klon Centaur is the most revered overdrive pedal of all time, setting guitar players’ hearts alight as much as it does angry exchanges on gear forums and social networks.
So, WE’LL ISSUE THIS WARNING RIGHT NOW…
If low-to-medium gain overdrive isn’t your thing, and the prospect of sitting through 37 minutes of very, very, very similar-sounding pedals will be boring for you, please turn off now!
For everyone else, grab a beverage of your choosing and get your dog ears on, because this one is waaaaaay close. Our pedals are…
• Klon Centaur Professional Overdrive (Silver) s/n S 2182 (no longer available)
• Klon Centaur Professional Overdrive (Gold) s/n 3099 (no longer available)
• J Rockett Archer rockettpedals.c...
• J Rockett Archer Ikon rockettpedals.c...
• Electro-Harmonix Soul Food www.ehx.com/pro...
• Wampler Tumnus wamplerpedals.c...
• Rock Your Repaired Amp Klone theklonepedal....
Why is there no KTR? Because we didn’t get one in time! There are plenty of online demos A/Bing the KTR against the original Klon, so hopefully we can take that as read.
Amps today are a Two-Rock Studio Pro 35 running through a custom Zilla 1x12 with Celestion G12H-75 Creamback, and a Marshall JTM45 that’s been reboxed, into a Marshall 2061CX 2x12 with Celestion GH12H Anniversary speakers. We say in the video that the amps are set ‘clean’, and indeed they are, the but one of the amps is definitely driving harder, or picking up some of the pedals’ drive in a more obvious way. So you’re hearing a mix of a ‘cleaner’ amp, and one that’s ended up a bit more dirty. It gives you a chance to hear the harder-clip edge of the Klon. Er, or that’s our excuse anyway.
Dan is playing a Nik Huber Krautster II and Mick plays a Fender American Vintage ’62 Stratocaster, Collings SoCo and Gibson Custom Les Paul Standard 1958 reissue.
As ever, all pedal switching and signal routing is handled effortlessly by TheGigRig G2.
For more on TheGigRig, see www.thegigrig.com
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Пікірлер: 927

@TheParanoidAndroid79 8 жыл бұрын

Why am I sitting around with a 2nd kidney like a sucker when I could be the proud owner of a silver Klon?

@steadyrm 7 жыл бұрын

TheParanoidAndroid79 buy the Soul Food for $70 you can keep your kidney and have a Klon

@abelramirez7320 7 жыл бұрын

Eddy Priest Happy Soul Food owner here, I second your statement.

@MYGAS21 7 жыл бұрын

I'm not shure about the soul food but I think they mentioned that the Tumnus was quieter (not to mention its bottom end) so the Klons totaly lost. And if you factor in that the Soul food even if its not an improvement like the Tumnus is, costs only 70 bucks.....why on Earth would you lose a kidney for a Klon?

@vvmakovv2689 7 жыл бұрын

That profile pic! 🖖🏽😂

@steadyrm 7 жыл бұрын

Me Hats Crooked

@dicktwitchy 8 жыл бұрын

Well done Brian Wampler!

@wampler_pedals 8 жыл бұрын

+dicktwitchy thanks :)

@JoeHeisler 8 жыл бұрын

+Wampler Pedals Easily one of the best pedal designers/brands, once I show someone one of my wamplers they end up with a few on their board haha!

@bradcarroll3719 8 жыл бұрын

He doesn't put them out until they are Properly Good!

@Tone2town 8 жыл бұрын

+Wampler Pedals Well done! I am a stickler of Wampler pedals, Your beginning to prove me wrong. How dare you!!

@angusyoung9594 8 жыл бұрын

+Wampler Pedals Best of the bunch. Clever name, too. And the fact that most people are not going to get it makes it all the better.

@jean-sebastienbarr6122 Жыл бұрын

7 years later it is still one of your best ! We could use a refresh with the new ones that had come since then. You guys rock !

@TheGigRigDaniel Жыл бұрын

Cheers mate 🤓🙏

@squidwardjtentacles 4 ай бұрын

Agreed. Need help choosing Ceriatone Centura or Ryra

@CliveBarnesMusic 8 жыл бұрын

I've said it before and I'll say it again..Brian Wampler fu*kin' ROCKS.. Wampler make up the core of my board.. Essential..

@wampler_pedals 8 жыл бұрын

+Clive Barnes Thanks! :)

@21stCENTURYBOY12 8 жыл бұрын

+Wampler Pedals pinnacle is my main distortion , won't be getting replaced anytime soon!

@wingee 8 жыл бұрын

+Wampler Pedals time to sell my archer ikon and get the tumnus

@andystephenson5407 8 жыл бұрын

+wingee plexi drive and clarksdale here. I hope this stacks nicely with my clarksdale

@rydes68 7 жыл бұрын

Brian Wampler is the man, plus nearly all his pedals can come in mini's! Got the mini ego, ace 30 and saving for the tummus...my board is heading the same way.

@johnester8421 7 жыл бұрын

So, I was really confused for a second on why the silver Klon had a tap tempo light.. Took me 10 minutes to realize it was the camera reflection

@kestontrammell3014 7 жыл бұрын

John M same

@jotalagarta 6 жыл бұрын

It took me 10 minutes after reading your comment that it was the red camera light xDD

@30smsuperstrat 5 жыл бұрын

You can tap the tempo of the odd order harmonics

@xtratorque 5 жыл бұрын

@@30smsuperstrat Lol

@TonyHawkTuah 5 жыл бұрын

Internal LED light in a Klon ! LMFAO But, I see it too now ;-)

@ronnyskaar3737 Жыл бұрын

I have used the soul food for a couple of years. Very happy with it.

@rockyourrepairedamp9850 8 жыл бұрын

Great Video!~ I am glad you guys love RYRA The Klone!

@JaakkoTK 5 жыл бұрын

This episode is one of the greatest in the entire history of TPS. Playing is so good, sounds killer, guitars just ace and the chemistry of these lads extraordinary. Btw, Tumnus was and is my choice of klonextravaganza.

@fattyfattyfatfat100 7 жыл бұрын

I bought a soul food based on price. And I was more than satisfied. I use it as a solo boost. Works perfectly.

@steviesavage 3 ай бұрын

same, once I figured out how to get the best from it anyway!

@DomSchu 8 жыл бұрын

Surprisingly the Klone sounds the best to me. It sounds so much thicker and fuller than the klon. The Tumnus is really impressive too.

@ModNicGuitars 8 жыл бұрын

Brian is one smart bugger! Tumnus sounds great!

@wampler_pedals 8 жыл бұрын

+picklemetro Thanks! :)

@wampler_pedals 8 жыл бұрын

***** haha! Thanks man

@SalisburySimon 8 жыл бұрын

+Wampler Pedals How close is that? Nailed it. Another one on the shopping list!

@brianpatrick6102 8 жыл бұрын

+Wethewax hahaha, from one Star Wars nerd to another, that was hilarious.

@sparkyguitar0058 3 жыл бұрын

Josh ain't doin' to bad himself. I got the Meat and 3 modded Soul Food on my board.

@jamesrobinson529 3 жыл бұрын

Ya know...we all have our struggles. Body aches & pains, a loved lost, poverty in some form or fashion. However, when you have at least 20 very cool amps, literally hundreds of pedals and a good buddy to jam with, all those big, bad problems get lost in the darkest corner of the practice room.

@m4rkthecutfixer365 5 жыл бұрын

Omg the tumnus is pure golden tone! Love it much more than the original klon 😱

@steverayburn6271 8 жыл бұрын

wow, really impressed by that little tumnus pedal. Brian Wampler strikes again! Great job guys!

@wampler_pedals 8 жыл бұрын

+Steve Rayburn Thanks Steve! :)

@RLMUD 6 жыл бұрын

I have a Fender twin reverb amp, very very clean, so I put the Tumnus at the end of my dirt pedals and keep it on all the time. sounds killer on its own, and with other OD pedals it sounds incredible.

@Alltherightmoves421 8 жыл бұрын

Killer episode, but by far my favourite part is the advice, 'If your audience is turning off, play less not more.' Wow! That is a very deep and amazing piece of information that I will hopefully digest. Thank you Mick and Mick's friend. As much as the insight into klon/klones is brilliant, that little nugget is going to last me much longer than a pedal. Gratci, gratci!

@zplapplap 5 жыл бұрын

I have a Soul Food pedal that I’ve enjoyed. I’m quite satisfied with it. Hearing these pedal in this video, the Tumnus is incredible. It moves up on my list. 👍🏽

@Chandler17447 8 жыл бұрын

I'd like to think someones pedalboard looks like this

@kestontrammell3014 7 жыл бұрын

Chandler Crane all stacked at once

@mikeplaysguitar36 7 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@30smsuperstrat 5 жыл бұрын

Billy Gibbons way of using Klons and Klones. 5 in a row all on. Transparent distortion 😁

@bipbipletucha 3 жыл бұрын

John mayers probably looks a bit like that

@TonyTrupp 3 жыл бұрын

Mine does.

@frankencat 8 жыл бұрын

The RYRA Klone! I love that thing. Thanks for including it. :)

@nunoandradebluesdrive 2 жыл бұрын

that Tumnus sounds gold

@MrBothandNether 8 жыл бұрын

Tumnus was the Fawn Centaur in The Lion, the Witch & the Wardrobe, fwiw.

@JamesRussoMillas 8 жыл бұрын

For my money I would have to specifically shoot out the Tumnus and the Ikon. I would probably end up with the Wampler because it just comes alive at higher gain levels but sounds authentic when it's down low. Also I love Brian's work so ya!

@andrewt248 8 жыл бұрын

CS Lewis likes the one on the left.

@nightwishlover8913 8 жыл бұрын

+andrewt248 Wonder how many other people got the reference lol

@bmwilsonify 8 жыл бұрын

+NightwishLover chyea!

@abelramirez7320 7 жыл бұрын

andrewt248 LMFAO took me a minute

@clarkerobertson2764 6 жыл бұрын

I agree with Jack

@mottosierra1372 5 жыл бұрын

Hi abbel

@MrShaneConaway 8 жыл бұрын

Not a fair comparison of the soul fool. The tone control is set much higher than the others. No wonder it sounds brighter.

@andrewt248 7 жыл бұрын

I though for half the video that the silver Klon had a blinking red light showing through from behind the metal cover. DOH!

@kestontrammell3014 7 жыл бұрын

andrewt248 same

@mojekh 6 жыл бұрын

the same :D:D:D

@albertplaysguitar 5 жыл бұрын

Aw, man... Too funny!!!

@LIGHTintheHALLS 5 жыл бұрын

When I first plugged in the Tumnus at home it sounded okay. When I used it on stage, that’s when I “got it”. Now I never turn it off. It makes everything sound better and more alive. It cuts through the densest mix without sounding hyped. It’s the drive for people who hate drive pedals and love their amp tone but need a little more hair on the note. Internally it runs at 18 volts and the drive knob is actually a mix knob. That’s what I call “transparent”. The buffer alone is worth the price of admission. I would not want this pedal in true bypass. Love it.

@camielkotte 8 ай бұрын

What amp and guitar you used it with? Tells us more...

@ArielsSmartyPants 8 жыл бұрын

This kind of thing is so subjective, each person hears something they like more than another. For me I liked the Wampler pedal the best, but the Soul Food wins because it sounds great and is so damn inexpensive.

@jarrydee2799 5 жыл бұрын

you are right. Hell, I cant stand their clean tones because humbuckers sound like mud to be, to dark. That is just my opinion though

@avinaashmunohur1175 8 жыл бұрын

I never thought I actually needed a Klon-style pedal until I saw this video... amazing demo as always. I actually ended up getting a Red Jasper from Free-the-Tone Red, which is not exactly a Klon-clone, but occupies the same space - so to speak. I am absolutely in love with that pedal: it fattens the overall tone, acts as a buffer for my pedalboard, has so much dynamics, is very very touch sensitive and organic, and stacks perfectly well with other drive pedals. Guys, please, please, please, show the amazing japanese pedal makers some love too, there are some pretty amazing stuff coming from them (Free-the-Tone, Human Gear, Shin's Music, Vemuram etc). Cheers!

@rogeriobley5306 8 жыл бұрын

I just got my Tumnus! Its my 3rd Wampler pedal and I personally think they are light years ahead in terms of tone. Thank you guys for the video. You are always bringing very helpful comparisons that every guitarist would like to do! You have the best jobs in the world!

@SidBonkers51 8 жыл бұрын

All very close but only one can be bought for around £60!!

@middle_pickup 8 жыл бұрын

I think this is an instance where KZfaq's compression really shows its affects here. I would love it if we could get access to higher quality audio.

@cptbeto 5 жыл бұрын

JHS Sould Food for me. Heard it not too long ago and was completely sold on it.

@hollywoodactress 3 жыл бұрын

After watching Danish Pete and Captain Anderton do their Klone overdrive shot out. I started searching for other reviews and found good old TPS 🙌🏻 Can’t believe this was 6 year ago, you are both looking fresh 🙂, shows how we are all maturing like a good wine, including me 😉

@rockstardr 3 жыл бұрын

Watching again....5 years later

@CaptAnderton 8 жыл бұрын

"As we stare gazingly in to each others eyes"???? I think you mean "As we gaze lovingly in to each others eyes"... Either way, its a beautiful relation you guys. Let me know when I need to buy a new hat ;)

@AlexBarelyCivil 8 жыл бұрын

Oh Captain my Captain this made me laugh lol

@munajooseppi 8 жыл бұрын

@andystephenson5407 8 жыл бұрын

+Sam Sham nah bro this is that pedal show

@CraigFlowersMusic 5 жыл бұрын

Hey Captain, why are Klon Centaur so expensive? It's just circuitry. If it's possible to truly "clone" the circuit, then what are people shelling out three thousand clams FOR? The faceplate? If it's NOT possible to truly clone the circuit however, why not? If it's just circuitry after all. Is there some two-thousand-dollar capacitor in there or something? I don't understand! I heard that Klon last night through a LP on your channel last night, and it made me jump in the air! So I looked it up, and WTFFFF!

@fernandocastro1357 5 жыл бұрын

@@CraigFlowersMusic TL/DR: the design is inventive and the product sounds good, and there are only around 8000 units in the world, so that is probably the main factor justifying the price. Long answer: The Klon was one of the very first truly boutique pedals. The guy who created and hand-made each of these pedals used to take orders on the phone, he wanted to hear what a potential customer expected to make sure the Klon was something for them; then the sold product was shipped via post. This went on for a few years. It used to cost under 300 dollars new, hand-made. Over time, more and more guitarists started to consider it a "secret weapon", because it sounded different from the usual go-to, mid-boosty overdrive pedals (e.g. TubeScreamer) at the time. It ended up landing on the pedalboards of some famous artists, which increased demand for the product. The guy couldn't produce them by hand anymore in a timely fashion, and refused to have it produced by some contracted factory. Eventually he stopped selling them, after shipping around 8000 units total. So there you have one justifiable explanation for the price: there are only a few in the world, and if you want to have "the true thing that was touched by the hands of the artist", you have to pay top dollar for it. The guy tried to protect his invention buy covering the circuit with hard black epoxi. Ever since, some people "destroyed" their Klons to see what was underneath it, and the circuit has been known for many years. You can check its schematic and analysis in a website called electrosmash dot com and see that it is indeed a very inventive and original design -- which can be copied and replicated, in theory. The original creator states that he bought a very large number of old, vintage, no longer produced electrical components that are the "fairy dust" responsible for the unique sound, but this is higly debatable. Moreover, some highly regarded pedal designers like to point out that the "magical" components are not even relevant if the Klon is used only as a booster, which is how most people like to use the pedal.

@ricopaulson1 7 жыл бұрын

Currently have my Soul Food set to a clean boost (low gain, high volume) running into a AC 30 normal channel to boost me up a bit. If i need some dirty dirt dirt, I have a tc electronic dark matter behind it. Love the Klon clone and could not be happier. Especially for 60 bucks!

@DarthEcoli 5 жыл бұрын

I use a Soul food to tighten up my op amp big muff. Works beautifully.

@LanningKann 8 жыл бұрын

I have owned the KTR and the Soul Food and currently use a Tumnus and prefer that one over all. To me the Tumnus is closest to the gold Centaur with a touch more low end which is nice. One pedal left out of this, which I wish they had included was the Keeley Oxblood, but otherwise killer demo and I appreciate it!

@williamrustrum 8 жыл бұрын

You two are the absolute best.

@BandOfLlamas_LippiMusic 4 жыл бұрын

They all sound great, especially the Gold Archer and the Tumnus (as clones)... But, I think the Gold Archer would sit (and cut) better in an ensemble context. The low-end of that Tumnus might get muddy outside of a trio set up. If you added keys and second guitar to that trio, things get cloudy quick without space and EQ... I guess it all depends on the style of music, the amp, and the EQ... Just a practical thought, because what sounds good to you in your room doesn't always translate on stage with others...

@simonmarcotte2432 4 жыл бұрын

That's a good point! Adding to that : 99% of the time in a live setting, sound engineers will hit the low cut button or will attenuate as high as 150 hz because that's where the low end for the bass and the kick drum is. But yeah, everyone's usage is different. I would set the Tumnus as a 2nd overdrive with a little mid boost and the gain set to 12o'clock to get a dirtier sound because it would cut into a live band setting.

@makeanttila7440 2 жыл бұрын

100% correct!

@SalisburySimon 8 жыл бұрын

It was said on the 5150 video but I have to echo it here - how refreshing to see comparisons where you tweak the knobs to try and match the sounds as close as possible and not just 'everything at 12'. Best videos ever - thanks gents

@musicshorts_ 8 жыл бұрын

Even though I didn't read/comment regarding video suggestions these videos topics are exactly what I have been waiting/looking for! This is the first channel I go to for any pedal vids, and I hope you keep on making videos as you possibly can.

@rafamcm 3 жыл бұрын

Finally, I've just bought a Tumnus. Greeeeeeeat pedal!

@rafamcm 3 жыл бұрын

@Daniel HallIt sounds really nice. I'll upload a video playing with it and some cool guitars on my channel asap. ;)

@peterrizzo9258 8 жыл бұрын

Boys I think I have now watched every vid - great work here and same on Guitarist... Next step is recreating some iconic tones... Page, Beck, Clapton, Keef, Gilmour, Townsend, SRV, Hendrix, Eddie, Summers, Edge ... One video per artist

@MrNatural_OG 3 жыл бұрын

keep coming back to this 6 yrs later.

@jankafka7330 Жыл бұрын

Six years later and they still all sound nearly identical to me. I guess you'd have had to have been in the room with these guys to hear the differences they were hearing. Josh Scott* did a video on his JHS channel comparing a boatload of Klons and klones, adjusting them to allow for pot tolerances, and got virtual identical responses from pedals priced forty bucks to obscene. I'm happy with my thirty dollar Caline and the TC Zeus Drive which cost me twice as much. The Caline is a bit noisier but, other than that, they both seem to me to do the same thing. *Mr Scott doesn't seem to approve the use of the pedals as boosts and uses them as overdrives, gain at over one o'clock.

@treynobles 8 жыл бұрын

The Tumnus is gonna be my next buy!

@TheGigRigDaniel 8 жыл бұрын

It's killer

@gatysm 8 жыл бұрын

+The Captivated me too

@intrsoul 8 жыл бұрын

+The Captivated Holy crap it's good.

@sweettoof9002 3 жыл бұрын

The humble Soul Food isn’t exactly as good as the real Klons, but for $70 gets you 90% there. Pretty good design, and EHX has sold a million of them. Klon tones on the budget menu.

@fixedgear37 Жыл бұрын

the 10% missing is the case, knobs and bragging rights

@danxthexman82x7 6 жыл бұрын

I love the sound of the Klon's. The Archers sound great also but I LOVE my Tumnus Deluxe. You guys should have use one for this demo cause it has the 3 EQ knobs that make it very versatile. Awesome pedal One my favorites! Wampler makes great pedals. I own the 'Ego compressor' also on my board, they are paired with a Keeley Red Dirt, 'MXR Carbon Copy' and a 'Boss EQ' to add more versatility and to tame the tube amp beast for home practice. Cheers guys from the US !! Keep the videos coming. You guys always put out useful knowledge of gear and entertainment!

@CarloDiStanislao 8 жыл бұрын

My ears learned more from your shows than in 25 years of life. Thank you guys

@stephen9944 8 жыл бұрын

Soul Food is a total sleeper pedal. Paint it and tell someone it's a more expensive clone and they'll love the shit out of it haha.

@cupolove1 7 жыл бұрын

so true. its amazing for the price

@andrewpolitano 6 жыл бұрын

For those on a budget or those experimenting with the idea of buying into this sound, it's very nice. Not Klon territory, it's got it's own flavor. Admittedly didn't work for me and my setups but for someone on a budget, it's a colorful and unique take on the circuit. Ultimately I went for the Wampler as it's much more organic, true to the original and didn't have that weird high-mid bump/fizz thing going on that the Soul Food did.

@coreyweatherford3297 6 жыл бұрын

I use a JHS Modded soul food and it's absolutely the best overdrive for a semi clean amp, kills the 808. I kept both, the 808 for metal. Anyway, the JHS had selectable germanium diodes which makes the soul food go from convincing to uncanny. Love that thing, perfect bright spanky "clean" tones and it works with all guitars equally well.

@chrisegg7936 6 жыл бұрын

I personally think they didn't pick a cool enough name/design. It's the only thing holding it back.

@dirtycelinefrenchman 6 жыл бұрын

I was skeptical and passed on the Soul Food at first and went with the Archer. After discovering that I didn't care for the Archer I took a shot with the SF and haven't looked back. I don't care if it's not a faithful klone. It sounds great on its own and makes my other drive pedals sound better when paired up. What more do you want?

@christianaugustin7047 8 жыл бұрын

I have a Soul Food. I'll admit the treble knob is really tricky and can make your tone sound really harsh if not put in the right setting. But everything else is a win with that pedal. 60 bucks got me a really good od tone plus a built-in buffer, which saved me the money I was gonna spend on a separate buffer. it's a great deal.

@albertorivera7937 8 жыл бұрын

I feel they didn't pay enough attention to it because it's cheap and widely available. There is a certain amount of snobbery involved here, in case it's not overtly noticeable.

@braydencharlton1476 8 жыл бұрын

+Christian Augustin I also own a Soul Food, it's decent for it's price but it's a failure as a transparent overdrive.

@HeviNova 7 жыл бұрын

I disagree on it being non transparent. When using it with a clean channel with headroom I can get dirty and clean clarity. Even with a solid state amp. Level around 10 ish to match clean guitar level, tone at 1130 drive at 2:00. Decrease drive and increase level with a tube amp to taste for clean OD. I get everything from andy summers clean to bb king blues with the pedal. The only downside is the treble can escalate when cranking the drive.

@GK-mm3nz 8 жыл бұрын

Loving the SoCo / ESy sounds. Would love to hear it with other types of pedals too. Gary Clark Jr with his full on fuzz springs to mind. Good episode guys, cheers.

@alphakittyofficial 8 жыл бұрын

Once again, another superb demo/analysis. The real surprise to me was Dan's new guitar which I couldn't take my eyes or ears off of... I own both of the Rockett pedals. In the studio, you have to pick between them as they are different, but at a gig any differences are lost in the shuffle. I'd love to see you guys explore why and how wah pedals interact with certain distortion and fuzz pedals (especially fuzz) with often times amazingly crappy results. Thanks for all your efforts.

@LoyalBloodband 8 жыл бұрын

The Emperor's New Klons.

@cidicorp 5 жыл бұрын

So, to sum it up: the Klons both sound very throaty, lush, hairy. The Archer has less mids and a clearer sound. The Soul Food sounds slightly harsh in the upper mids/treble, especially with the gain turned up, and is clearer than an original Klon. The Tumnus is closest to the original Klon to me, more hairy and less clear than the Archer, also more bass.

@Purplexi 2 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate the use of two different styles of guitars here. I know I complained about it before but I was mistaken! THANKS

@rickherrera5230 3 жыл бұрын

You sold me on the Tumnus!! Thanks for great comparison!

@lazyguitarman9438 8 жыл бұрын

The gold Archer is my favorite in there, also like the tumnus and the gold klon, i think i like gold stuff lol

@wadenkrangguttenberg3750 8 жыл бұрын

long loving gaze at 7 mins 20 seconds! ! lol caught ya

@thorntoneaudio5939 4 жыл бұрын

4 years old and I still smirk every time that gold klon comes in.

@joshmuz9018 5 жыл бұрын

Dan is the best. Just a beautiful soul. Great positive energy

@joshie4330 8 жыл бұрын

So basically the Tumnus nails the Gold and the RYRA nails the Silver. I shut my eyes when you went back and forth between those pairs and was wrong several times, especially thinking the Tumnus was the Gold. I'm ordering one now.

@ApolloVIIIYouAreGoForTLI 5 жыл бұрын

So the creator of the Klon has said on record that there is ZERO difference between the gold and silver klons. He simply changed the casing at some point.

@Liko81DJ 4 жыл бұрын

Bill Finnegan's said a lot of things about his pedals over the years. It has done little or nothing to dispel the mystique.

@davidburke2132 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but as Greg Koch says so often, there is such a thing as a “tone hue”!! So colour makes a difference 😉

@robertogrady2798 4 жыл бұрын

A great demo to prove the overpriced Klon will only sit in your signal chain if you tweak it right.... the same as other klones do. Klon is a rip-off: Josh at JHS will a/b any of his creations against other pedals, and because of that I have faith in JHS... but Bill Finnegan is too scared to a/b his Klon... he’s a weak hermit for good reason.

@davidburke2132 4 жыл бұрын

toetappin bob To be fair the hype over the Klon Centaur wasn’t really Bill’s doing and most of the people profiting off the back of the product are the people who own them rather than Bill himself. When they were in “production” by Bill originally they were fairly reasonably priced according to the custom or relatively expensive components, construction methods by Bill, etc. Now he is producing them again in very occasional almost one-offs and selling them typically according to eBay bidding, so they’re expensive again as they’re obviously competing against the price for the original run second hand units. Personally I’d prefer the original creator to make that profit rather than a lucky owner/collector. I understand your viewpoint of the price of Klon’s not being justifiable in the second hand market but I don’t understand the need you seem to have to attack Bill himself? None of this is his fault. 🤷🏼‍♂️

@coreymineard 4 жыл бұрын

toetappin bob Jesus, man. It’s just a guitar pedal. No need to personally attack the guy who designed it.

@thebarcodestv 8 жыл бұрын

So great to see you guys had a great time doing this video... Daniel that guitar is SPECIAL....!

@philipbarman8577 8 жыл бұрын

Awesome guys! Best episode thus far in my opinion. Would be great to see an episode on reverbs for the ambient/post-rock-ish crowd. Cheers!

@jankafka7330 8 жыл бұрын

They all sound the same to me!

@albertplaysguitar 5 жыл бұрын

No way dude! That's like saying all beers taste the same... But, I get your point. The differences only really matter in regards to how they affect your playing.

@rnichol22 5 жыл бұрын

@@albertplaysguitar in terms of the tone you are trying to achieve they all can do it. Non are bad

@joemamma4324 5 жыл бұрын

THEN YOU ARE IN LUCK.........SAVED THOUSANDS..

@denieledwards6893 3 жыл бұрын

AGREED VERY LITTLE DIFFERENCE WHY WASTE SO MUCH TIME WITH YOUR LIFE GO OUT AND PLAY AND RIGHT MUSIC,

@隠れた 3 жыл бұрын

@@denieledwards6893 I prefer to wrong music

@ChinchillupaGuy 8 жыл бұрын

Howdy good sirs! Have you ever considered doing blind tests? I'm not sure if I'm alone in this, but at least for me it would be easier to choose the best sound if name and hype had no influence on my ears. Thanks for considering, cheers:)

@albertplaysguitar 5 жыл бұрын

UN-possible... That would go contrary to the show's value... It's all about the chemistry between all the musical elements! This amp, that pedal, this guitar... Ultimately, the vibe it inspires. Blind tests activate a different part of the brain.

@o_p_g_gamer_b9160 6 жыл бұрын

I own the Tumnus the morning glory and ordering the archer ikon soon. They all sound so good, warm round an juicy.

@bryandunn349 8 жыл бұрын

Great Video guys! Keep it up. Thoroughly enjoyable, fun, and really it helps many of us avoid making mistakes in our purchases as so many company's attempt to lure us towards pedals based solely on price. Thx again.

@LesPaulDuderino 8 жыл бұрын

+Daniel TheGigRig Great episode! Will you be doing a "How to clean gain with volume knob" anytime soon? Theres so much there to explore; treble bleed vs no treble bleed on strats, 50s wiring on a Les Paul vs modern wiring, linear pots vs audio taper. I think Klon type pedals would be perfect for an episode on the subject.

@MrFrenchHarp 8 жыл бұрын

Never ever set the knobs in the same place. To compare these pedals you have to dial in the treble content and the dirt/gain content to match what you are hearing EXACTLY ( with eyes closed perhaps ) Then compare whats different about the two pedals in every way from there. Simply having a knob at noon doesnt allow for part tolerances and also where the pot is tightened against the box in orientation. Cool video and I enjoy the relaxed vibe of things.. but its unfair to compare two pedals.. ( even if they are the same exact pedals ) based on where the knobs are pointing.

@MrShaneConaway 8 жыл бұрын

Exactly! They didnt give the soul food a fair shake with its tone at noon. They had some of them as low as 10 o'clock.

@northernthrifter8817 8 жыл бұрын

Shane Conaway they spent their time on the gold clon because they'd borrowed it, this kind of thing is very hard to guage the hype of klon is ridiculous the soul food is close enough for me, they've increased by about £30 since I bought mine but its still half the price of the archer and everyone gets a crack at the klon which is good I think because nothing should be exclusive to only those that can afford.

@scooter5005 Жыл бұрын

31:30 Larry Carlton! Nicely done indeed. LOL, I think your tones overall are darker then I'm usually allotted to, you 2 certainly play marvelous. But for me the EHX Soul Food is probably more to my usual recipe, but, as you point out so well, there is a bit of secret sauce compression going on, especially in the original Klons. And you shared several other tonal secrets in this episode so thank you again

@GTRJohnny66 8 жыл бұрын

A very big THANK YOU for doing this comparison. It went about how I thought. I have a new Tumnus arriving in a day or two. Daniel, your new Nik Huber guitar sounds truly amazing - very open and alive. Congrats! :)

@crazyjoe1540 8 жыл бұрын

Jesus Christ I thought the archer was good but the tumnus kicks it out the park, there's almost nothing in it between that and the real klon

@breathtimebreath4934 4 жыл бұрын

Not sure if anybody has mentioned how the Klon centaur stacks with other pedals so amazingly

@wutnot 8 жыл бұрын

Dig it! Just want one now. these kinds of shoot outs with direct comparisons are great! very good to know less expensive option available can certainly hold up.

@CraigFlowersMusic 5 жыл бұрын

Revisiting this now that I'm done building this $7000 stereo speaker design is finally done . . . I had a pretty damn good system before, but now it's world class, and whereas I could somewhat discern a difference between pedals before, NOW they ALL sound COMPLETELY different. It can not be overemphasized how important it is that people listen to this show on the best speakers or headphones possible. I have Raal 140-15 tweeters, for a start, and now it's clear I'm going to have to pick one, because I think it turns out that in the room they are all quite different in character. Time to revisit pretty much all your oldies!

@Tanzi24 8 жыл бұрын

I'd take that Tumnus over all of them I think, lower end sounds tight and beefy. Love it! Disappointed by the Archer pedals, not as good as the hype I've read. I own a Soul Food and it's great, shame you didn't spend more time on it. Someone else here said they felt there was an element of snobbery going on and I agree; it more than holds its own against pedals worth three times the price. Good tone for the masses, nowt wrong with that!

@luigivillani4924 8 жыл бұрын

This might be a bit toxic to say, but I personally like the way the Wampler sounds the best... always been a fan of wampler. Might have to pick one up!

@soundstorm9508 3 жыл бұрын

Lol why would sharing your opinion be toxic

@johnmarquez333 8 жыл бұрын

Great news about the new That Pedal Show channel! You'll have to put a link to that in one of the upcoming videos. This is by far my favorite regular show.

@joshscus 8 жыл бұрын

WOW Brian Wampler! Neither Archers impressed me that much, but as soon as the Tumnus was switched on after the gold Klon, my jaw literally dropped. Wampler fan for life.

@Dan.Solo.Chicago 3 жыл бұрын

6:38 He was definitely about to jump this dudes bones. About to drop the D, and I ain’t talking about pitch. They’d probably integrate the guitar into it as well. Put the headstock where the sun don’t shine. These two are playing with a lot more than guitars around here. The heart wants what the heart wants. You can’t true bypass that.

@joshmuz9018 3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

@gabe1141 3 жыл бұрын

Wtfffff 😂😂😂

@dunebillydave222 5 жыл бұрын

Mick, you're an amazing player. Everything you play is just beautiful, powerful and nuanced. I wish I could have followed your learning path when I was a young kid coming up. I am always impressed with your skills. OK, so now I really have to say you're an impressive player as well, Dan. That's not just an after thought so you don't feel slighted. I just forget how great you both are until I listen to you each going back and forth.

@frasersurfs 8 жыл бұрын

the ryra klone is incredible. just got one shipped to the UK and it blows away other klones I have. very happy

@heyjoe1963 8 жыл бұрын

First I must thank this two gentleman for sharing & produce the most awesome, well made guitar gear videos with awesome guitar playing & incredible tones. I must share with you all and I truly wish you'll had the ARC V2 included in this shootout because you all would be very pleasently surprised. If you can still do at later date a side by side with Tumnus, Archer, RYRA or ARC V2 this pedal rocks after trying all others..... Cheers

@ForViewingOnly 8 жыл бұрын

Hey guys, I'd like to request that you do a big comparison of fuzz pedals in the future. There are so many different types and sounds: the smooth Wampler Velvet Fuzz, the spitty ZVEX Fuzz Factory, variations like the Catalinbread Karma Suture harmonic percolator. Some fuzz pedals have gate and bias knobs. It's a minefield for someone like me who has been playing for 26 years but never owned a fuzz! Cheers.

@karlhenrikarendt 8 жыл бұрын

+ForViewingOnly I would like another big fuzz comparison. If you dont know, they have already made one :-)

@brianpatrick6102 8 жыл бұрын

I too agree with another fuzz episode. But only for selfish fuzz addict reasons. doh! If you are seriously interested in getting to the core of the various vintage fuzz circuits, look up Joe Gore's tonefiend channel on youtube. He has an EXCELLENT three part in depth series comparing all of the various vintage fuzz boxes up to 1969? If you love fuzz its pretty much mandatory viewing.

@brianpatrick6102 8 жыл бұрын

+brian patrick The channel is called: tonefiend by joe gore.

@stipeur 8 жыл бұрын

+Karl-Henrik Arendt Well they did muff style pedals comparison and thats only one style of fuzzes as we all know

@cheeks6700 8 жыл бұрын

+ForViewingOnly I agree! a video with perhaps some of the more "out-there" fuzz pedals, and how to tame them - and maybe gain stacking with fuzz.. And perhaps some tips and comparisons of how they react to respectively batteries and power adapters/power supplies. Overall dos and don´ts with fuzz. Cheers!

@mosesramirez6330 5 жыл бұрын

22:30 for the tl:dw version

@OriginalEyeball 7 жыл бұрын

Great very useful vid!Helped me decide on the Tumnus.That thing edged it for me.Sounds great 👍🏻

@jdavis.fw303 8 жыл бұрын

Oh man I got my Tumnus today!!!!! It is so glorious! I had never played a klon klone before. It is everything I had been missing in an overdrive. It sounds like it adds the perfect amount of compression even at low gain and low volume. It really does leave you nowhere to hide like you guys said. It somehow adds even more touch sensitivity to my rig. I was playing an old noname (Sound Projects) All-American 5 style amp (tube radio tubes) and it made it sounds like I was playing some $2000+ boutique amp or something. I have the Earthquaker Palisades for my tubescreamer mod+ clone, which has been fun, but I think I must be more of a Klon guy. Thanks for introducing me to it!!

@TheGigRigDaniel 8 жыл бұрын

+Jonathan Davis our pleasure Jonathan. Make sure you subscribe to the new channel :)

@onewiththings 3 жыл бұрын

At 5:15 Mick can tell the difference between the Klon and the Soul Food.

@gdasilva 8 жыл бұрын

My experience has been that as a player, I can get a great tone out of a pedal/amp/guitar by myself but once in a band mix, the perception changes drastically. I suppose the Klon/Klone mythos relies primarily on what it does to your tone in a band mix situation. Any chance of repeating this demo/shootout with some backing tracks including drums, bass, and a rhythm guitar? I suppose that would be the ultimate demonstration of which of these get the job done.

@JaiceyLynnWins 2 жыл бұрын

I am truly curious to see just how much of a difference would be discernible in a live mix, pound for pound. They are all so close in this setting that it still challenges a seasoned ear to hear the subtle nuances between them, but then adding in a band with the interplay of frequencies vs. the slightly different tonal characteristics cutting through. Part of me thinks it would be even more difficult to pick out those same differences, though I feel as if certain pedals may actually surprise us when the amps are pushed to a higher volume in a live band mix.

@makeanttila7440 2 жыл бұрын

Amen

@sega62s 4 жыл бұрын

Brillant Team work, thx from all serious guitar sound seekers 🍻

@sophiebosio8171 7 жыл бұрын

Woah, thanks a lot for this proper run-thru of the coolest Klon Klones and comparison to the originals! Really cool! I think the silver Archer sounds massively good, so that's a new addition to my list :))

@michael_caz_nyc 7 жыл бұрын

Love the Show. Watch you guys Constantly. I am Absolutely Addicted. It's Phenomenal. ( However ) There is 1 way to Improve upon it. Is there a way, to Normalize the Volume? ( between the speaking parts & playing parts ) as often-times, I am watching at 2am - and find-myself: Constantly Adjusting the Volume to hear you guys Speak vs. the Actual Playing segments. Keep it Up. I Never want this to end. Even the AB Comparisons are Fantastic. Best Show on You Tube ( for me ). - Michael Caz - NYC -

@Grant_Ferstat 8 жыл бұрын

I actually liked the silver Klon better than the Gold, but maybe that's cause I had one for many years and I miss it :-) The Rock Your Repaired Amp is the one I'm going to buy I think it has the low mids that the Archers & others miss but without the slightly over-hyped bass of the Tumnus. I can see why folks would love that about the Tumnus but I use the Klon circuit as a post OD solo boost and I think the amount of bass might not work for me in that application. I need the low mids and the presence lift of the Klon circuit but I wouldn't want any unintended bloat.

@Hagstrom4ever 6 жыл бұрын

One of the best KZfaq channel, I LOVE watch your videos, anything. :-)

@danielbertola7868 7 жыл бұрын

Tumnus for the win!!!! Awesome little tone ninja!

@57ebartley 5 жыл бұрын

I've been contemplating a Klon clone. Dang that Tumnus might be the ticket.

@endezeichengrimm Жыл бұрын

Or the Tumnus deluxe. It has bass,mid,treble and an extra gain switch.

@styx85 7 жыл бұрын

Great video guys, but why haven't you included the Blah Clone?

@angelvox1603 7 жыл бұрын

Hey Daniel and Mick. Brilliant presentation guys. Thank you for going into detail on the these pedals. Daniel you are a tone genius. I have the Gold Ikon Archer. Cheers.

@TheLawdaug 7 жыл бұрын

Just stumbled on you guys. Great videos and very entertaining. No doubt pedals sound different in the hands of different players as well as equipment. Keep it up!