Could listen to these two argue about football for hours.

The 'HEATED' joke must have finally got to Sky Sports.

Genuinely impressed by the fact HEATED isn’t in the title.

“James Milner has played 3 games in 6 days and he’s 35”😂😂😂 Carragher is gold

As Gandhi once said, ‘never back the early kick-off’

Gary "at this moment in time" neville

Gary “let’s be clear” Neville

Have a drink every time Gary says 'sir Alex Ferguson' 😂

Thought Carragher was trying to conduct an invisible orchestra at the start...

What about them being sent out to play internationals every 3 weeks on top of the shorter length between CL games and PL games feel like that’s been ignored in this debate.

Gary “lets be clear here, I completely omitted the internationals” Neville.

You are not considering the matches played in the international break.

Klopp is not arguing to get rid of the 12:30 slot, he's arguing for the broadcasters to not pick teams who play Wednesday night for it, something Gary totally omitted. This is disingenuous beyond belief.

Gary didn't have these stupid "nation's league" qualifiers to deal with though did he. Wijnaldum started 3 games in 7 days for Netherlands, and then he's back to twice a week with us. Players don't get rests anymore because of stupid made up international breaks. Fergie used to get players to fake injuries all the time to get players to miss international friendlies, and now there's more of those

Gary Neville! Do you realise the game has changed since the 2000's . Its more intense, more technical. High press = more energy. = more injuries.

For klopp hes simply just speaking from his point of view, and wants things to benefit his squad. The exact same as any other manager would do

Clear bit of oversight in Gary’s analysis. He compared the days per game and showed Liverpool’s was lower than other clubs in the past but there is a clear oversight. A much larger proportion of this season so far has been an international break than once at the end of a complete season, simply due to how they are scheduled. Liverpool’s days per match if you discount international breaks is higher than any of the clubs you had shown. You can see that is trivially the case because Liverpool have played every single available mid week this season, it is quite literally impossible for any team on that list to have had a higher days per match. And this isn’t just a Liverpool thing by the way, for most English CL clubs this season i believe this is the case.

From: @ben_darcy The MNF stats suggesting it’s a “normal season” need examination. Between 1st EPL game & LFC last game is 77 days. They have played 16 games. Game every 4.8 days. Also unprecedented number of international fixtures = 8. 77days \ 24 games = 3.2 days per game Whether deliberately or not, MNF chose the start point at the community shield which is misleading. It came a full 2 weeks before the start of the season and this is what skews their figures. Not to mention they played internationals in the 2 week “break” before first EPL game

The days per game stat is very disingenuous because there has been multiple international breaks already so far. But when there isnt an international break Liverpool have been playing 2/3 times a week. Players also didnt have a pre season and the results of that has been very detrimental

I do miss Gary being on MNF with Jamie... wish they would get together more often!!

I could listen to Carra rant about football all day.

Gary literally forgetting the players literally had no pre-season, playing useless international games (2+) every international break...

Gary's missing the fact that even though there was a longer break, there was hardly a pre-season this year so players at all clubs are more exposed to injury.

15:13 - the famous carra laugh 😂😂😂

The games got a lot faster since 1999 though hasn't it. Players put more into a game than they did 20 years ago. It would be nice to see on average how much the players cover the field compared to 15-20 years but I bet it's considerably more today

neville usually comes with the sense and objective facts but this time Jamie demolished him. Especially at the Milner comment "Hes played 3 games in 6 days and hes 35".

For a Manc, you make sense. But, I think Jurgen is simply trying to protect his players; and that’s a far more important consideration.

"HEATED Debate"

Let's be clear Neville is always totally unbiased in his new role.

I'd eat pasta for breakfast for £200k per week

the english always want to be special. whole europe has 5 subs. so the big teams in the champions league hav the advantage over english teams as they can rest more players in their leagues.

"I've seen a type of man do this action before, therefore everyone who does this action are the same type of people" Love Gary but I really hate it when people generalize other people as easily as that.

One of the original reasons for 12 o'clock kos was to decrease the amount of drinking time for fans before a big derby.

No wonder GN never made it as a manager, doesnt look like he has the players welfare in mind, but instead still has Sir AF welfare in mind.

Sky really blessing us today with these Cara & Nev vids.

Great debate as always, could go on a marathon of debates between these two

Gary “i don’t know why” Neville

Its an " exceptional year" for those that have been made redundant and struggling to make ends meet at home.

nevilles talking rubbish. klopp is bang on. he talked about injuries, not just for liverpool but for all the teams.

Gary has deluded himself with some data he has in a spreadsheet, then he goes and admits he has omitted certain games. 30% extra injuries is a ridiculous increase. It's not a coincidence.

The one time they’d be kinda justified by including ‘HEATED’ in the title and they don’t do it 😂😂🤯

sky bottled uploading klopps rant though

Brilliant.. Best way to describe Jamie's comments ❤️

Pure football discussions! Love these two.

Liverpool are absolutely playing more often than every 5.4 days, we've had 2 games a week pretty much all season

Jamie is right, Nevilles argument doesn’t make sense, Ole was complaining about the same thing as Klopp and he isn’t a title winning manager

Two brilliant football brains and opinions. The best in the business by a mile. You do not get this level of considered understanding and analysis of the game, from “any” other pundits. Carragher and Neville are exceptional.🥊x

Not sure how Gary can say games aren't coming faster, CL games are coming every week rather than the normal 2 weeks. 2 days recoverys which isn't enough and will eventually catch up with most players and less training for games.

I love how Carras voice sounds like a litter of kittens being done in every time he gets a bit passionate, or shall we say “heated”. Every time he’s on my screen, my dog starts cocking his head at the telly and howling.

I was the whole time like: "tell him Carra yeeaah tell himm" 😂 love these two

What a point from gary . Brilliant observation, i agree

love these two man

No Gary, evening kick offs have better atmospheres because most of the fans have had a few drinks. Only loons start drinking at 10am for lunchtime KOs

I swear they don’t use HEATED in the title no more probably because everyone banters it haha

This year teams should have atleast an extra sub because the seasons so congested, it's why there are so many injuries. The issue being that the top teams with better squad depth may perform better. The issue with this idea is that top teams will benefit by having better players to replace first team players that get injured due to the congestion anyway. So I think it's just better to add maybe 4 subs and see how it goes just for the rest of this season.

Jamie “listen” carragher

that figure for days per game is inflated because of the 2 international breaks in a short period of time

Gary 'cherry picking evidence' Neville.

15:15 damn, I never realised how bang on Darren Farley was🤣😂

Ok this was a smashing vid! Neville made some fantastic points with convincing arguments. Absolutely loved the back and forth and especially illuminating was the comparison to the rest of the seasons and days per game played. Klopp might actually be a world class politician after all 😂😂

How much saliva does Jamie carragher needs to speak like that?

Gary "HISTORY" Neville

Sometimes i think one of them just talks and the other one chooses to argue the other side without knowing why there really arguing, its brilliant

Fantastic by Gary. Totally agree.

30% higher injuries because the fundamental style of football has changed. High press and longer distances ran per 90 increases the workload for each player, thus leading to higher injury rates.

More rest than in any other season? Has he seen the soft tissue injury figures compared to literally every other season, how does he explain that one? Having 3 months off playing elite sport and probably not training anywhere near the intensity that they should be whilst they were at home will not give them a 'rest' it will mean that their soft tissues will adapt to having less demand and lower their capability to cope with high intensity training and competition which the players have been flung back into without having the time in pre season to slowly re-gain this ability to cope with physical demands. I usually agree with everything Neville says, but he is not qualified to talk about recovery and injury and he's completely off the mark on this one.

Brilliant content once again

The early kick-off problem that Klopp is pointing at though, is in context to the late midweek fixtures. Not about the time slot itself. It is in context of recovery time Between games. And further, the argument that they've had the most rest ever in the prem, and that Klopp played the best 11 he could through out the most uncertain times, how could anyone have known the scope of this pandemic, hindsight is always 20/20 and that can't be an argument. The way that teams are being trained, matched, rested have been reactionary since the pandemic got taken seriously. So every team in the prem (and the world) are reacting to things as they come, they certainly try to have a season/periodic plan for what to do, but they lose precious time to accommodate every outcome with a plan. And ofcourse the bigger teams will get an advantage, and that is something we can't disregard in all this, so where should the sympathies be? How do we make a good, sensible change to how we get the best for everyone? There's no easy answer, but in my opinion i wholeheartedly believe that the players should be the focus of this. With muscle injuries at an alltime high, we can't disregard that something is very very wrong, and those injuries can halt, stop or even END careers. All because they can't have 5 changes or fixture times can't be changed? Let them have 5 player changes, but maybe only at 3 separate moments. That way, teams wouldn't be able to kill the momentum more than what it can do now, but still have the possibility to guard their players.

Gary Neville omitting one big glaring Stat: the Nonsense International friendlies and nations league

Neville dismissing reality to make a point.

i used to love the early kick offs on a sunday me

Gary Neville gives very good logical arguments unexpected of a footballer. Being able to pull out numbers like days per games to substantiate his points rather than relying anecdotal "this is an exceptional season" is impressive.

Let’s ask Chris wilder and his 1 point about it

Just when it's really cold outside and we need warmth, Sky Sports stops the heating.

Love the heated debate between these two, great television.

These 2 are the best of the best...well done lads.

If you want a real advantage please get in touch with your local VAR representative and ask about their decision packages. Man Utd are the only club this season that took this amazing deal and look at them go. Penandes is laughing. Please, speak to a local VAR REP straight away. Financing options available, T&Cs apply

Gary has got it entirely wrong here I’m sorry it’s not the same season as always

The smaller teams dont play in Europe so they play less games. But if PL is the only big league in EU that doesnt have 5 subs and the injury rate keeps climbing there must be a conection.

Some great points from Gary there, hard to argue with any of that.

Shouldn't be surprised that people employed by Sky are sticking up for broadcasters. Klopp has always said it's about the health and fitness of ALL players. Also he didn't get done in that interview, he actually made great points. Broadcasters don't care about the players.

Gary 'Sir Alex Ferguson' Neville

Good discussion

Makes a good point about more rest than any other season and the 12.30 kick offs should only be a thing if every side has the same amount of lunchtime kick offs

Ohh gary lets wait for united players to drop like flies..... I'll wait for your argument then.

Regardless of whether Klopp wants this "for Liverpool" - from a PL pov surely you want to minimise injuries?! Talk about the Asian market, I am sure they want to watch the best players playing like everyone else! If the league is a product we should be making the best product possible and whatever the reasons that is obviously not the case with all of the injuries (and VAR)

Excellent debate from Gary and Carra they are both extremely talented and fun to watch

Does this include the 3 international breaks?

Klopp has never complained until now cos of the pandemic. The whole world adjusted and other league made adjustments aside from England!!!!!! Why is that so difficult?!!!!!! He's talking about his players. All of them are basically injured.

Try getting up at 6am on a MTWTF for a fraction small fraction of a player wage. Zzzzz off

I agree with Gary, klopp has used the same team nearly 3 years in a row and they suffering with mainly muscle injuries (vvd Gomez Thiago are different) also Liverpool play a fast style of play so it’s going to catch up at some stages

Poor on this issue from Gary. It’s one thing to worry about big teams having a tactical advantage with their squads being deeper - it’s another thing entirely to oppose a solution when more players than ever are suffering serious, career and life changing injuries because of their workload. The stat Gary brings up here doesn’t take into account international fixtures, including pointless friendlies players are conscripted for. He also says he wants to see the trend over a whole season when he disagrees with Carra, but brings up the stat based on part of the season to support his own argument. The season started later than usual, but they plan to finish on time and play the same number of games. So over a season we will see games played more frequently to compensate. It’s already started, which is why there are so many more injuries. Stubborn and reaching for statistics to suit his narrative, when usually he’s really good and seeing the facts. And he talks about Klopp being done in an interview, Neville’s done himself here

Neville got done in here, makes sense why his run at Valencia was so tragic

Gary is saying that over the last 10 to 15 seasons Liverpool played a game every 5.4 days. Yeah, I think for half of that they weren’t even playing Europe. Now they’re that good, they play everywhere in a year where all the games have been condensed into a narrow period. He’s absolutely got a point!

How many games per day between now and end of January??

I would of love to have seen gary neville debate with jimmy hill.

Gary's spot on about that Liverpool playing the highest level of football for 3 years without much rotation. They were bound to crack

How's he looking for an advantage? He's at a disadvantage because this season of all seasons, playing in Europe is a real hassle. It's the disadvantage he's trying to do away with.

This was actually a really good debate.

how i love this two when they speak whit arguments :D