Knee's DEFINITIVE Tekken 7 Tier List

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7 ай бұрын

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@HitokiriSingh
@HitokiriSingh 7 ай бұрын
For a man that gets asked this question incessantly since T7 launched, he has so much patience and introspection every time he speaks on the topic
@demogorgon4244
@demogorgon4244 7 ай бұрын
give him a rimjob. he can't even speak baby level english and he doesn't explain anything. phidx asked why geese is not good i don't understand, what did he say? nothing. uuuuuh, very high introspection alert!
@dmitrysofa
@dmitrysofa 7 ай бұрын
Knee is such a humble person. Good job with that video phi!
@shadowofthenorthstar989
@shadowofthenorthstar989 7 ай бұрын
"Lars tresh" will never stop being funny 🤣
@jeromeng
@jeromeng 7 ай бұрын
"You play Noctisu? Please stahp. Changey characto"
@Ghakimx
@Ghakimx 7 ай бұрын
"Noctisu iszu..... TRESH 😏"
@Julio54
@Julio54 7 ай бұрын
Play stevu, stevu is good characto
@Asura6ix
@Asura6ix 7 ай бұрын
This must be racist.
@Ghakimx
@Ghakimx 7 ай бұрын
@@Asura6ix kzfaq.info/get/bejne/irSCd92Jv626ZJs.htmlsi=PiQ6KAuuOKoukTkO
@bennymountain1
@bennymountain1 7 ай бұрын
Mo?
@joaomarcosgsp7515
@joaomarcosgsp7515 7 ай бұрын
thank god he didnt put steve on top 5. Now I have an excuse when i lose
@PhiDX
@PhiDX 7 ай бұрын
LMAO
@muhdazhad04
@muhdazhad04 7 ай бұрын
Nah, even if he put Steve at Top 5 you have another excuse.... He's hard to play and requires strict execution 😁👌
@tk_foxer
@tk_foxer 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@azuresaiyan9005
@azuresaiyan9005 7 ай бұрын
Tiers barely matter only since it’s unreliable and Tekken is so knowledge checky that even the worst characters can get away with nonsense.
@ARN_Chronome
@ARN_Chronome 7 ай бұрын
Nah you have no excuses
@TechRoll123
@TechRoll123 7 ай бұрын
I'm seeing your channel lately and I have to say your videos are very good and your takes are really on point. Keep it up, you deserve more subs/views. If I can make a little suggestion, I'd really like to see a deep dive on the match ups, for example I didn't know that Paul has a bad match up with characters with a good back dash. But that's just a suggestion, you are doing great
@ourdailymeat
@ourdailymeat 7 ай бұрын
Now I realized why it feels so strange when I join the tournament, coz I practice on PC, and there is no input delay, while console have.
@reirei_tk
@reirei_tk 7 ай бұрын
Wow, what a coincidence, I was just about to ask for this! (Been watching a lot of YGO tier lists lately) I do quite enjoy the discussions that can be had with tier lists, but I don't know how far they can be taken with Tekken (YGO has tier lists for days). Although they're definitely something I like to watch.
@Dyleniz
@Dyleniz 7 ай бұрын
I mean we have a diverse format, I saw a teirlist of the current format almost 2 hrs lmao
@reirei_tk
@reirei_tk 7 ай бұрын
@@Dyleniz Jesse Kotton's 1.5 hour video about 50 or whatever staple cards was peak
@Dyleniz
@Dyleniz 7 ай бұрын
@@reirei_tk yea thats the one I saw also the hr long when to hand trap guides form other ygo creators
@JoeMurray5
@JoeMurray5 7 ай бұрын
Haven’t played Tekken since Tekken 5 so getting into it again before 8 :) thanks for this
@Parad0x_834
@Parad0x_834 7 ай бұрын
Big fan of your content! They're informative and help a scrub like me understand what's going on piece by piece. Keep it up!
@CallOfCranK
@CallOfCranK 7 ай бұрын
I love how Knee said that xD 18:40
@coupdegrace7809
@coupdegrace7809 7 ай бұрын
Iconic
@JaredMS0
@JaredMS0 7 ай бұрын
Wow what a treat man. Awesome video. Knee has great takes as usual... Devil Jin main here :^)
@NovaSeiken
@NovaSeiken 7 ай бұрын
"If Parry 100%, #1" *L M A O* Gotta love it. The ridiculousness, absurdity and *truthfulness nonetheless* in this statement alone. Knee is the real deal.
@bigc122
@bigc122 6 ай бұрын
I’d love to see a technical list of what damage Jin can get vs what Leroy can get since you can do certain moves after Leroy’s parry that aren’t the canned parry attack. It’s more difficult so you don’t see it that often but Knee was talking about hypothetical perfection.
@michelleh1464
@michelleh1464 7 ай бұрын
finally a tier list, that says Yoshi isn't weak, like many other lists. He is far from being weak.
@partymantis3421
@partymantis3421 7 ай бұрын
Glad you got knee to do this, the list was pretty good considdering the rushed conditions, Not sure about Noctis being top10 but what do i know, also putting Julia & Katarina specifically in "PS4 top 5" was funny
@PhiDX
@PhiDX 7 ай бұрын
Noctis is really really really really good
@Hyglo27
@Hyglo27 7 ай бұрын
Man i really despise goin up against noctis and usually root against any noctis players in tourneys that was you included. But tbh im becoming a fan, watch ur content very often these days cuz it's top quality, straight to the point, very informative. Keep it up 🙌 one of my favourite Tekken creators rn.
@finnmarr-heenan2397
@finnmarr-heenan2397 7 ай бұрын
He’s such a boring and lame moveset
@The1stRyder
@The1stRyder 7 ай бұрын
What a guy!! Hopped on a plane to get good hq videos for us!
@mizukumecasko1216
@mizukumecasko1216 7 ай бұрын
Never realize king worst matchup is 1 monitor
@thefabledenglishman6000
@thefabledenglishman6000 7 ай бұрын
There are some players who quite literally put a blanket on top of their hands to try to prevent their opponents from hearing the iSW or GS inputs.
@Animetheplayer
@Animetheplayer 7 ай бұрын
Makes me wonder what King's tier would be on pad
@mizukumecasko1216
@mizukumecasko1216 7 ай бұрын
@@thefabledenglishman6000 i remember kokkoma doing that against arslan
@thefabledenglishman6000
@thefabledenglishman6000 7 ай бұрын
@@Animetheplayer Probably still bad match-ups tier, honestly. Throws aren't that great in T7 regardless, and King's high hitboxes and average movement still make some match-ups kind of annoying. df2(1) CH is kind of the wild card, because that string is stupidly good.
@FahmiZFX
@FahmiZFX 7 ай бұрын
@@thefabledenglishman6000 There are ways around that, which is doing feint and half inputs for chain throws, but it's way too much work and it's not worth it at times (taxes the hand too much with high chance of miss input).
@hassancr13
@hassancr13 7 ай бұрын
18:43 that somebody was me😂
@TSkillzX
@TSkillzX 7 ай бұрын
Special guest tony in the back
@voodustyle
@voodustyle 7 ай бұрын
Yoshi top 15 is so interesting. he's probably the strongest he's ever been with that new F1+2 counter hit launch and the guaranteed sword mill after wall crush.
@KTA_ESP
@KTA_ESP 7 ай бұрын
He was already fairly solid. 2,1 is bonkers, df2 is one of the best keepouts, and he just has great range. The oki game is top
@voodustyle
@voodustyle 7 ай бұрын
yeah the 2,1 cancel is my favorite thing to use. very underrated string in my opinion.@@KTA_ESP
@cccdeadpoolxd920
@cccdeadpoolxd920 7 ай бұрын
real yoshi is best yoshi is better than everyone
@mibbzx1493
@mibbzx1493 7 ай бұрын
Yea but he’s not because he’s very hard to win tournaments with especially in a ft2 settings. Thats why you dont see yoshi winning majors
@cccdeadpoolxd920
@cccdeadpoolxd920 7 ай бұрын
@@mibbzx1493 yeah in other words he is hard to master
@TheProswagonist
@TheProswagonist 7 ай бұрын
Asuka in the "bad matchups" tier makes all the sense in the world. Its funnt ttough cause she's solid vs some of the top 10 like Akuma, Marduk, ajd Geese, but she's just so bad vs some characters like Kuni, Noctis, Julia, Claudio, and Feng, that's its really hard to stay consistent with her. Also love how Phi was saying that top 5 had like 6 characters while the actual list only has 4 distinct characters. 😂
@lyricalsnowfall
@lyricalsnowfall 7 ай бұрын
Hold up, what makes Asuka good in the Marduk matchup? I always struggle to beat him :(
@TheProswagonist
@TheProswagonist 7 ай бұрын
@@lyricalsnowfall He doesn't have a consistent punish for b3. And because most of his good moves are pretty slow, cancan is an amazing move to just blow him up. If you play the matchup fast and force the Marduk to play to your pace, you'll have plenty of chances to get big big damage.
@FortuneKOF
@FortuneKOF 7 ай бұрын
Forever mediocre tier
@kronksstronkstonks6360
@kronksstronkstonks6360 7 ай бұрын
​@@lyricalsnowfallMarduk sucks when facing aggressive players due to slow startup frames. Several of asuka's buttons have either high or low evasion that allow her to catch off attempts at punishing her spam. The best way to avoid getting evasivelly whiff punished is by using fast mids vs her when she starts sequencing neutral/plus frames with evasion. But Marduk has zero fast mids (his mids might actually all be minus on block, cant remember). Either way, he has very few tools to deal with evasive pressure as long as you're in his face. Add to that Asuka's parry and you've got a ganeplan that consist of "get in his face" versus "run the fuck away so I can use my lanky arms". Please note that there's a difference between playing aggressively and playing unsafe though. Temper your aggression or you'll witness god in 4K.
@zoroasper9759
@zoroasper9759 7 ай бұрын
@@lyricalsnowfall in general any character who can't reliably punish b3 is super weak against Asuka, one mistake and you blow up
@Hachijo3GS
@Hachijo3GS 7 ай бұрын
Boa don’t care about bad matchups, he still shreds 😂 Thanks PhiDX for this awesome content! ❤
@TimeWarrior14
@TimeWarrior14 7 ай бұрын
Boa just doesn't give a fuck if he dies in a hellsweep or not
@nsmilitia
@nsmilitia 7 ай бұрын
Boa is also very experienced, like knee was saying that experience can make a character stronger.
@TimeWarrior14
@TimeWarrior14 7 ай бұрын
@@nsmilitia Yes,but again, this dude literally after a hellsweep is blocked twice, he will hellsweep again right after, so he just doesn't care.
@killmax
@killmax 7 ай бұрын
@@nsmilitiau😊
@pneumothorax_9377
@pneumothorax_9377 7 ай бұрын
Really considerate of you to tailor your English to ease the language barrier, many don't
@bespoke555
@bespoke555 7 ай бұрын
Would love to see a video where you go more in depth with this list
@kamenrider6908
@kamenrider6908 7 ай бұрын
Love the only set to 2 because its true. players can either adapt very quick or can't.
@thomascookfyi
@thomascookfyi 7 ай бұрын
awesome stuff
@Vic-tz3gl
@Vic-tz3gl 7 ай бұрын
Armor King cannot keep getting away with it.
@BullC6
@BullC6 7 ай бұрын
It's kinda funny, I made a tier list few days ago where I put Jin in top 5, Geese and Julia below him in top 10, Steve and Lee in and around top 15, DJ in Bottom 15 below ganryu, nina lower than Anna and King lower than armor king because I believe he has more bad matchups and people flamed my ass. Now Knee has pretty much done the same and also put only my main in hard/honest category which I have been telling people for ages that she's so hard to win with against random play and very high level. The only major difference I see is I would swap lei and law here.
@Medemesis
@Medemesis 6 ай бұрын
The noise I let out when I saw Anna’s placement
@mylinuxstruggle5495
@mylinuxstruggle5495 7 ай бұрын
Your videos are to good i just finished the backdash video now this lol. I paused my show 😅 how can i not watch this.
@plunemfg4509
@plunemfg4509 7 ай бұрын
Amazing work on the audio! I thought the video was ruined by the bits donations etc...
@salinaember9527
@salinaember9527 6 ай бұрын
the god of tekken has spoken.
@canmyvm
@canmyvm 7 ай бұрын
You should do a reaction on FT5 Hafiz Tanveer(claudio) vs Arslan Ash( noctis) and explain the different play style of Noctis by you and Arslan against the same opponent and same character.. Would be really interesting
@Stormtrooperfan219
@Stormtrooperfan219 7 ай бұрын
Soooo the best mishima right now is Bob. Nice.....
@Kizuke21
@Kizuke21 7 ай бұрын
leo top 10 ganggang lee just keeps getting moved lower, im crying outro >:)
@thoraero
@thoraero 7 ай бұрын
At last someone puts Katarina and Leo where they belong.
@jjplays404
@jjplays404 7 ай бұрын
what's the difference between PS4 and TOP5 dynamics ?
@DEUSVULT822
@DEUSVULT822 7 ай бұрын
hey Phidx i love your "serious " approach , thank your for Knee interview man , i just love that man , no homo tho xD
@ahmadkhateeb6585
@ahmadkhateeb6585 6 ай бұрын
if you could clarify the bad matchups/risky/one monitor? specifically for howarang and king, I would appreciate it, great content.
@PhiDX
@PhiDX 6 ай бұрын
One monitor means you're sitting side-by-side and can see their hand movements Hwoarang has really bad matchups like Zafina and Kuni
@waverider9123
@waverider9123 7 ай бұрын
You should make a tier list of all season from 1-5, all season tier list
@wittmoneyman
@wittmoneyman 7 ай бұрын
LOL, Bob. Second best Mishima in the game!
@rajazel
@rajazel 7 ай бұрын
when a top five became a top 50.
@noname_noname_
@noname_noname_ 7 ай бұрын
do people make separate list for ps4/pc because of the input delay on consoles?
@PhiDX
@PhiDX 7 ай бұрын
precisely yeah
@noname_noname_
@noname_noname_ 7 ай бұрын
@@PhiDX much appreciated.. thanks champ
@reirei_tk
@reirei_tk 7 ай бұрын
Playing on PC vs PS4 is like walking through a flooded basement vs walking underwater.
@noname_noname_
@noname_noname_ 7 ай бұрын
@@reirei_tk yeah man i just disabled v-sync and changed a couple of graphics settings according to Rip's old video settings.. and i can actually play the game now LOL.
@eVuLeX
@eVuLeX 7 ай бұрын
you can tell sometimes because alot of dash follow ups are dropping
@user-fm3xr9yz3i
@user-fm3xr9yz3i 6 ай бұрын
Knee showing love to the Supercop Lei Wulong! 💪🏼 T8 🙏🏼.
@Wuuj_
@Wuuj_ 7 ай бұрын
I love the content but man, knee is operating on such a higher level then any of us that i dont think this tier list applies to any of us 😅
@aryanshyam8933
@aryanshyam8933 7 ай бұрын
It does but I don't agree with some points on some characters here
@beppo8932
@beppo8932 7 ай бұрын
cannot wait for tekken 8
@ayosgsauce
@ayosgsauce 6 ай бұрын
Knee's english so much better!! Proud of him.
@jhaycloud07
@jhaycloud07 7 ай бұрын
That giant swing advice is good.. yes you can compare that to hachet kick.. but mostly bryan player execute hachet kick on neutral.. yes you can duck it but its so fast and bryan does have 3+4 and qcb,4 but king players normally pokes first then buffer giant swing.. im saying this bcuz i fought a AK player and what i do when i heard a circular noise from his stick i press 1 🤣🤣🤣
@finnmarr-heenan2397
@finnmarr-heenan2397 7 ай бұрын
That’s why you gotta also spam 360s on the right stick as a fake out
@finnmarr-heenan2397
@finnmarr-heenan2397 7 ай бұрын
That’s why you gotta also spam 360s on the right stick as a fake out
@jhaycloud07
@jhaycloud07 7 ай бұрын
@@finnmarr-heenan2397 i see... Dont know about that thou ive never been had a game with a player using controller or right stick.. most people playing here are using arcade sticks and some korean levers are to loud ( neo knee lever,etc) clicking that you can hear the stick how they input it...
@fortemesh7450
@fortemesh7450 7 ай бұрын
Hoping that DVJ will be become stronger in T8.
@chiaramaffei3739
@chiaramaffei3739 7 ай бұрын
Me too!
@gsai64
@gsai64 7 ай бұрын
He's trash right now so nowhere to go but up
@davida7229
@davida7229 7 ай бұрын
​@@chiaramaffei3739Just dont be surprised if more inbred whiners complain over 2 single moves of dj and they nerf him to the ground once again lolol.
@Firjiwater
@Firjiwater 5 ай бұрын
It's happening
@absynth0
@absynth0 7 ай бұрын
Can we finally admit kunimitsu is busted? That character ruined the game for me. She is so stupid to play against.
@atiebiss
@atiebiss 7 ай бұрын
Ur not alone 🤣
@givaru-tan9623
@givaru-tan9623 6 ай бұрын
Kuma and Panda not gonna sugarcoat it , b1 b1 b1
@shenpai4
@shenpai4 7 ай бұрын
Excuse me for not knowing this but why are they making extra tiers for ps4 and pc? Are there actual differences between the two?
@PhiDX
@PhiDX 7 ай бұрын
Yeah input delay and general game feel
@strikemist
@strikemist 7 ай бұрын
Knee pog
@keidz03
@keidz03 7 ай бұрын
Can I ask why PC and Console are different Character tier? Just curious.
@patches3
@patches3 7 ай бұрын
console is used in tournaments and has more input delay compared to pc
@keidz03
@keidz03 7 ай бұрын
​@@patches3I didn't know that Ps4 version has input delay. Thanks for the information. Cheers.
@aryanshyam8933
@aryanshyam8933 7 ай бұрын
​@@keidz03ps4 has 1/2 frame delay and pc dosent have any delay that's the thing I can share the video explaining the same so it becomes easier to put frame perfect commands on pc as per my experience myself
@jordbarker732
@jordbarker732 7 ай бұрын
With king my main and Paul, drag and kuma being characters I like it makes me feel better about being trash 😅
@michaelcarrig627
@michaelcarrig627 6 ай бұрын
When I played Fahkumram was good. What happened to him?
@since2133
@since2133 7 ай бұрын
Top 16 are definitely great tournament characters. The rest are fillers. I’d probably only switch Bob with Bryan tho.
@ihugyoucuziloveyou
@ihugyoucuziloveyou 7 ай бұрын
I'm new to this. Why is there a difference between tiers based on platforms?
@Atamachikaku
@Atamachikaku 7 ай бұрын
Ps4 has more input lag than pc (I don't remember how much exactly), making some moves that you could more or less consistently react to in PC unreactable on ps4. And also when it comes to precise movement and the likes, because of the input lag ps4 basically makes it wayyyy harder and many times even downright impractical. Yes it's fucked up, blame bamco.
@ihugyoucuziloveyou
@ihugyoucuziloveyou 7 ай бұрын
@@Atamachikaku oh yeah, its weird. Thanks for the explanation though!
@victorcalalang997
@victorcalalang997 7 ай бұрын
console to pc difference? i dont get it
@Whitesoul-.20
@Whitesoul-.20 7 ай бұрын
Thats why I am saying the developers should not entirely listen to the pro players when it comes to balancing. It was clear since the beginning how strong Katarina rly was in online pros only discover the characters strengths when another player does well with that charcter in a tournament
@i3ssb00st5
@i3ssb00st5 7 ай бұрын
Ill def use Katarina in a tourney and be funny if made it to top 10 using only her lol
@Soulblight
@Soulblight 7 ай бұрын
Kata got buffed hard on the last seasons, especially her small tekken. On release she was underrated but not as strong as she is now.
@rpgtimefire
@rpgtimefire 7 ай бұрын
Naw your forgetting the buffs. 44 string wasn't so solid and harrier follow ups were trash.
@Whitesoul-.20
@Whitesoul-.20 7 ай бұрын
@@rpgtimefire she was never bad in online and a few buffs cannot make a character go from f tier to s tier unless the buffs are crazy like the ones leo got
@rpgtimefire
@rpgtimefire 7 ай бұрын
@@Whitesoul-.20 one buff can make a character broken. I remember one patch they over buffed a law move and everyone was playing him destroying ppl. Its not one buff its multiple small buffs over 10 years. Her small tekken game is so much more cleaner now. Plus the ability to frame trap way easier.
@aR0ttenBANANA
@aR0ttenBANANA 6 ай бұрын
Why are PS4 and PC different?
@nowanepcfw
@nowanepcfw 6 ай бұрын
Katarina main, I agree with this video 🗿
@jorgeroman820
@jorgeroman820 6 ай бұрын
I don't know why fahkumram is so weak to Knee, can someone tell? I feel he's not an easy character to defend against
@benjamindaniels9828
@benjamindaniels9828 6 ай бұрын
Video covering the tier list can't see it
@AfterSchoolSophie
@AfterSchoolSophie 7 ай бұрын
I want timestampssssssssssss 😭
@watermelon64220
@watermelon64220 7 ай бұрын
Cany anyone explain what are difference between ps4 tekken and pc tekken?
@husband20yearlivesickdie40
@husband20yearlivesickdie40 7 ай бұрын
Tekken 7 on consoles has significantly more native input lag. This makes reactive play much harder - the risk of eating a strong mid while moving/fuzzying is increased while mixups are harder to block if you choose to stay still and avoid being clipped. Characters like Katarina are ideal for this environment because she has tons of fast and safe big hitbox buttons which constantly force reactions out of the opponent on hit and on block. Katarina and Claudio are still strong but high level players would be able to block, move and punish them bit more accurately on PC.
@prosketch95
@prosketch95 7 ай бұрын
So funny how far Devil Jim fell
@I_Shotgun_Beers
@I_Shotgun_Beers 7 ай бұрын
"Devil Jim" 😄 I'm calling both Jin's Jim from now on.
@yomi_jeremy3964
@yomi_jeremy3964 7 ай бұрын
It’s very impressive how Tone has made it into the top player inner circle. Unless I’m outdated, I don’t believe he has made top 3 at a major before.
@KingJaeTV
@KingJaeTV 7 ай бұрын
King Jae question 👀😂
@PhiDX
@PhiDX 7 ай бұрын
🤣
@truebatman9421
@truebatman9421 7 ай бұрын
clip this to bandi-namco as the best says again for 3rd time that lei is very gd character and hard to use proerly and consecutively. Lei wulong for Tekken 8 plz. thx and ty. love your channel and ty sirs.
@ToastyYokai
@ToastyYokai 7 ай бұрын
Damn, didnt know lars was trash.....wow
@SoldierLuka
@SoldierLuka 7 ай бұрын
As a Kazumi main, I agree. Kazumi hard!
@98-carlmarkmarak22
@98-carlmarkmarak22 7 ай бұрын
Kazumi is all about the players themself, sure its hard to win with kazumi , but winning against a good kazumi is even harder , they have tools for almost everything
@ReMeDy_TV
@ReMeDy_TV 6 ай бұрын
Why would PS4 be different than PC? Dualpad/FightStick/HitBox should work on both, so is it like a framerate thing?
@PhiDX
@PhiDX 6 ай бұрын
Input delay is higher on PS4
@kotasake
@kotasake 2 ай бұрын
​@@PhiDX What about Xbox?
@Elegost3000
@Elegost3000 7 ай бұрын
What does one monitor mean ?
@PhiDX
@PhiDX 7 ай бұрын
playing the game side by side on one monitor
@mkelleyaggie
@mkelleyaggie 7 ай бұрын
So is it better to play on pc or console
@mosley3485
@mosley3485 7 ай бұрын
pc because there's no input delay. if you play on console, you're also playing against people with the same input delay as you though.
@outkast978
@outkast978 6 ай бұрын
also PC because PC players tend to use ethernet cable as opposed to wi-fi
@i8pinedazhiro567
@i8pinedazhiro567 7 ай бұрын
my main goes hard fr fr
@kiidrecklzz
@kiidrecklzz 7 ай бұрын
i dropped julia because it felt too easy to win sadge. i hit genbu with steve tho im proud
@kitsune5150
@kitsune5150 7 ай бұрын
Can you please explain why devil jin is trash tier?
@shadowform1264
@shadowform1264 7 ай бұрын
Lídia still my favorite
@AllureKaraoke
@AllureKaraoke 6 ай бұрын
I’m concerned about Lydia, cos they rated her thrash and I always get slayed when I match with her
@muhdazhad04
@muhdazhad04 7 ай бұрын
I just wanna know why Knee put Devil Jin on trash tier. If he could take some time to explain it I would really appreciate it.
@xan187
@xan187 7 ай бұрын
i just wanna say it’s pro play tier list, in casual play he’s still good i’d say but that can be said about every character tbh
@hoassyoass2480
@hoassyoass2480 7 ай бұрын
i want to say the u/f+4 nerf is what turned many players away from DVJ. Don't play him myself but thats what sticks out the more from the Season 5 changes
@darkknessPS3
@darkknessPS3 7 ай бұрын
What i've seen from playing him its he has low/avarage damage combo, quite bad mids, his cancel transitions can be interrupted, u/f 4 gives nothing, too much telegraphed moveset (like strings as d4 3, ff3 2 4, d/f 3 2 4), bad magic4 And then he has some stupid moves like u4 or the short imblok
@LegendaryPlank
@LegendaryPlank 7 ай бұрын
My guess would be how hard he is to play well, especially when compared to other high tier characters who practically pilot themselves. DJ is still insane on paper.
@Soulblight
@Soulblight 7 ай бұрын
With uf+4 nerf Devil Jin doesn´t have a scary mixup anymore. You can just duck against him at mid range and he won't have much tools to deal with it.
@waifuhunter9709
@waifuhunter9709 7 ай бұрын
I wasnt playing for 2 years What happened to devil jin????😮
@killhunter674
@killhunter674 7 ай бұрын
Doesn’t have a mid anymore :(
@mh--jz8rv
@mh--jz8rv 7 ай бұрын
So trash easily bottom 5 unfortunately
@iHeartAMP
@iHeartAMP 5 ай бұрын
Why is peeshee and Pee-S-fo different?
@Leonykf
@Leonykf 7 ай бұрын
Got 3 trash characters as mains
@LongjoyNl
@LongjoyNl 7 ай бұрын
Surprised about Anna in top 16....
@falo4043
@falo4043 7 ай бұрын
For short tournaments when people don't know your patterns on the 50/50 she is a very dangerous character, even more than Kazuya. For long sets she is close to bottom 10 imo
@LongjoyNl
@LongjoyNl 7 ай бұрын
@@falo4043 yeah...that I can understand... Playing her at the moment and I'm not even that good with Anna...just playing her basics...do not expect a lot of elbow rushes from me...but people get very confused about her mix ups en speedy strings...Ok..higher ups will have it easy playing against her but her explosiveness and 50/50 is indeed what makes her difficult to play against.. And now I'm playing against a 3xS+ Anna....gonna get wrecked....🥲🥲😄😄
@sorrowinthewind4258
@sorrowinthewind4258 7 ай бұрын
@@falo4043 I never understood that statement. In a long set, a good Anna has the time to adapt and condition you to her 50/50s and keep you guessing.
@kyubi3000
@kyubi3000 6 ай бұрын
As a Lars main, I feel sad
@omaisgee123
@omaisgee123 7 ай бұрын
Knee is so chill and not full of himself. It's why I love him and not a huge fan of Arslan.
@tabkg5802
@tabkg5802 7 ай бұрын
JIM KAZAMER N#1 💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥
@gawdzirra93_20
@gawdzirra93_20 7 ай бұрын
Anna top 15? Isn’t she like the most unsafe character on the entire roster?
@fobo3361
@fobo3361 7 ай бұрын
what i hear when someone says a character is "bad for tournaments" or "low tier" "so if you play this guy and win, you're better then everyone else who plays these other characters up here, cuz they're just SOOO strong and you're just simply better"
@bennymountain1
@bennymountain1 7 ай бұрын
Not really. They mean that some chars are better in a quick ft2 match, rather than deathmatch. Knee and other Koreans still play deathmatches. Knee also plays a bunch of characters, so I assume he would choose different chars for each situation. Not riding his dick here, just don't think it's johns necessarily.
@fobo3361
@fobo3361 7 ай бұрын
@@bennymountain1 no im just messing around cuz the two characters i main are uuusually considered hard to learn and not the beeest I picked em cuz they're cool to me, they both just so happen to be hard/not the best characters Edit: main is bryan cuz zombie cyborg is metal as fuck, secondary i picked up recently, drag, cuz he's kinda funny and awkward, but also cool grapples, i like grapples, and shit lows, cuz i dont wanna rely too much on bryan's strong lows (just if you were curious idk lol)
@AirLancer
@AirLancer 7 ай бұрын
They wouldn't be "former champions" since it's not like their championships got revoked or anything.
@PhiDX
@PhiDX 7 ай бұрын
True, just not the most recent world champs
@mikaela5938
@mikaela5938 7 ай бұрын
this video funny
@F.O.G_Music
@F.O.G_Music 7 ай бұрын
Eyo Lei made top 15 ! i am content !
@truebatman9421
@truebatman9421 7 ай бұрын
ikr. now we needs to send to bandi-namco that lei is very skilled and hard character to use properly and is hella tricky and fun.
@cdavis7529
@cdavis7529 7 ай бұрын
Why would you have the camera covering the bottom tiers
@PhiDX
@PhiDX 7 ай бұрын
The whole stream was hectic to get set up... and finally getting to sit down with knee I was more focused on having a good interaction
@meikspk
@meikspk 6 ай бұрын
I just just gained Emperor with Asuka last week. And I'm really not good at tekken. I feel Asuka is one of the strongest. I only have problems fighting Bryan. Anyone else is manageable with Asuka.
@PhiDX
@PhiDX 6 ай бұрын
Noctis is soooo hard for asuka. Confidence is really good though 💪🏼😁
@meikspk
@meikspk 6 ай бұрын
@PhiDX oh you're right... so is kuni. But they're not that much represented online and I mostly lose to them because I know nothing about them... and of course because of their non sabaki conform moves... Btw... I'm rooting for you. Love the way you celebrate your wins.
@hands-ongaming7180
@hands-ongaming7180 5 ай бұрын
@@PhiDXIm hard for Asuka 😜
@harps7366
@harps7366 7 ай бұрын
Dude Kunimitsu feels so bad because she has basically no lows (to my info) how do I play this character dawg
@PhiDX
@PhiDX 7 ай бұрын
Backdash evades everything, so there is no consistent way to attack her without risking dying to whiff punish, running into 2,2 / jab / df1, or getting CH by SET 2. Do nothing, let them die. If 60s is almost up, you have completely ambiguous mixups and hopefully you've done nothing long enough to avoid telegraphing habits. Enjoy.
@wumboTK
@wumboTK 7 ай бұрын
its a bit confusing how to view this tierlist because of sections that dont say "top x," it'd be nice if you were able to place a single character several times so we could see where they would be at on non pc / ps4 great video otherwise
@codysadler9718
@codysadler9718 7 ай бұрын
Why did that guy sit in your chair?
@karimkj01
@karimkj01 7 ай бұрын
Why Devil J Trash lol ? and How dragunov went from top 5 Season 1 to trash ?
@kotasake
@kotasake 2 ай бұрын
Power creep and nerfs
@Golden2Talon
@Golden2Talon 6 ай бұрын
katarina top 5? what ? no one plays her and especially not in tournaments?
@noblejustice19
@noblejustice19 6 ай бұрын
Arslan won twt with her. Kuni and cat are S stricly because of arslan ash. Not shocking right?
@Golden2Talon
@Golden2Talon 6 ай бұрын
s tier because of a player is the dumbest reason ever. that is not what a tier list means. if one wins all tournaments with yoshi, and only him, that does not mean he is s tier@@noblejustice19
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