Saone Grant 2 years ago the 3 reunited on the new Dallas

What episode of the 1st season was this?

Episode 6

Val and Gary moved to California and Lucy reunited with them in the first season of knots landing why didn't she do it more often though I don't understand.

Walter Schivo Yeah, I think she fits well on KL than on Dallas.

JR wouldn't let it happen!!

Lucy would have kept Abby out of the picture and Gary and Val would never have gotten divorced.

I couldn't agree more! I can understand within the story why Lucy wouldn't come live with her parents, but KL would've done more with her than Dallas did.

@@theresapetekiewicz1788 Good. I think a more interesting story line would have been the reformation of the Gary-Valene-Lucy family.

Mine too

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Awesome! I had a similar experience with Knots Landing in college, and i eventually did move to Los Angeles…and i still love living here.

Deloris Fox Me too!!

***** oh yeah?

knots landing was great

In a lot of ways ,I liked gary ....he wasn't living at home with mommy and daddy like his brothers were . He was on his own out of state .however, miss ellie did pay for their house.

It was a wedding present. After Val divorced Gary, she returned all the furniture Miss Ellie bought.

You can assume they did off camera. However Lucy might resent them as she was a rich spoiled brat and the fact that Gary and Val raised them and not her would make her bitter.

I forgot that Val and Gary had twins.

they look so cute together

I had heard a rumor they tried to get her to guest star in 1992 to come to Val's funeral but she was unavailable. However she was mentioned on that show. Mack offered to try to track her down in Europe and I remember she left Dallas the 2nd time to move to Europe a few years before.

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And it's funny how Lucy was sleeping with her uncle, Ray, too.

@@justafanintexas7913 but she di

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Lucy would have kicked abbys ass

Would have like to see Lucy clash with Abby and Dianna clash with Paige. Those would have been great story lines

@@draperscott7698 Now That I Think About It,Your Right,Lucy Would've Made A Great Addition To Knots Landing,Renuited With Her Parents Val And Gary,And I Would've Loved To See Her Meet Her Other Grandmother Lillimae!!! 😍🥰🤩😊

Made me misty eyes. too.

laminage she was so spoiled

Yes, Miss Ellie acknowledged this in Episode Two when it was still a Miniseries. They gave her everything to make up for what they couldn't give her and that was Gary & Valene.

laminage that's why her and Mitch were incompatible. She was a spoiled brat

Yes, it's too bad that they couldn't go for Pre-Marital Counselling. She had "everything" handed to her while Mitch had to "Work" for everything he had. Also, did you see the Apartment Mitch lived in while in Med School, it could fit Lucy's Room at Southfork.

laminage exactly and Mitch kept telling Lucy to slow down and think about that but Lucy was too eager to get married in general that she didn't care who she married, she was eager to be loved because of her parents not being there, I liked Mitch, but it wasn't a good match . She would have been better off marrying someone from the same social class.

Saxon C he loved Gary. he just wanted Gary to have guts

Yeah but Jock 's favorite son is Bobby and Miss Ellie's favorite son is Gary. J.R is just love that's it.

Rosemary Isaac Bobby was jocks favorite by far ! from January 1981.....hes a helluva son and a helluva man!

JR resented that Bobby and Gary were the golden boys of the family!! I think that explains a lot about JR's behaviour.

Gary was his own man. Bobby wanted to please his mama and daddy so much but he didn't agree with alot of things and Jr well he just like his daddy

Charlene is a small gal. A tiny peanut.

Mary Crosby as Kristin also appeared after Kristin shot J.R. She caused some trouble in the cul-de-sac for one episode. It was obviously a ratings grab to boost Knots ratings. After early season 4, no Dallas character ever appeared on Knots again.

I like wearing that dress too! And I'm a guy! - Frilly Phil

That's the nature of soaps. You never keep the characters happy for a long time because it gets boring

Ikr. She was hot beautiful n sexy back then(even though i was a small kid lol). Now I don't know what she has done 2 herself. Lol

@@alfonsogreen2722 fuck loads of plastic surgery!!!

She had disfigured herself terribly, but repaired by the 2012 reboot. She looked pretty good in that considering her refusal to get old.

I had heard a rumor they tried to get her to guest star in 1992 to come to Val's funeral but she was unavailable. However she was mentioned on that show. Mack offered to try to track her down in Europe and I remember she left Dallas the 2nd time to move to Europe a few years before.

Yes that was very good casting. Joan and Charlene do look a like then. And Val was a very young teen mother so they could pass for sisters.

The Colbys was just a cheap (though very expensively made with BIG names cast in leading roles) knockoff of Dynasty. Even the opening credits mimicked Dynasty’s. Knots Landing, whilst a spin-off of Dallas, was a completely different beast altogether with its original focus being on suburbia, married couples and their relationships and friendships.. stuff ordinary people can relate to. Knots Landing was on air for 14 years with a strong fan base whose love for the show remain intact. The Colbys started with a bang but without a solid premise and grounded characters it quickly fizzled and disappeared into television oblivion.

@@tsutsuji1The Colbys is a fun binge watch, and the acting is pretty good thru most of the cast, but the real reason to watch is for Stephanie Beacham’s work.

Blame Jock and Ms Ellie for not raising and disciplinary JR.

@@SouthSideLadyWright remember when Ms Ellie told JR you were born old. What kind of mother says that to their child. Even if he was a conniving backstabbing bastard from the 7th level of Hell.

Yes JR's motivations here did not make any sense. He should have wanted Valene and Lucy to reconnect. If they reconnect they would leave Dallas and Gary would ave no reason to ever come back. Lucy would have been better suited on Knots Landing.

teresa phernandez J.R. looked at ALL siblings as competition to the Ewing money, business and estate as a threat. J.R. wanted their father Jock praise and love for himself along with to run Ewing oil company and money for himself. Gary the oldest, brother at the time failed as a businessman didn't have guts and loss money in drinking and gambling back then to father Jock dismay while living with his family on the Southfork ranch. Gary was involved with Valene at that time was the first to give Jock a grandchild heir, Lucy which made J.R. jealous cause he wanted to be the first and only out the siblings to give Jock an heir, so J.R. ran off Gary by setting him up to feel like he's a loser and failure. Valene left all alone with J.R. threats fled with baby Lucy too, but J.R. parents wanted Lucy. So, J.R. and his hired boys scared Valene to give up baby Lucy and scared Valene to not to return. J.R. tried to run off the little brother Bobby too, but Bobby who had a backbone stood up to J.R. which is why J.R. look at Bobby as his true brother and love and respect Bobby more than Gary and Ray.

With all do respect, Gary wasn't the oldest brother, J.R. is the oldest, then Gary, Raymond came next, and last Bobby.

Despite Valene. being Lucy’s mother, JR still saw Lucy as a Ewing with their blood flowing thru her veins and so should be raised as such on South Fork. JR had Lucy kidnapped from Val when she was just a baby as he felt Val wasn’t fit to raise a ‘Ewing’. Lucy was brought back to South Fork and from there raised by her paternal grandparents, Jock and Miss Ellie. I don’t know if Lucy even knew or met her other grandmother, Lilimae, Val’s mother.

Gary was a raging alcoholic, so honestly he didn’t need to be anywhere near an infant. JR and Jock judged Val harshly because she didn’t have money. They had no right to take Lucy from her. It was plain and simple kidnapping and Val tried to get Lucy back, but JR bought off the Sheriff and the judges.

Including her uncle, Ray?

+T James u think she would have had the "Paige" role if she joined the show ?

Well, there was......talk......that certain actresses did NOT want CT on KL ever again....

And why?@t.james

T James YIKES! How’s that for shade!

Lucy wouldn't have fit because originally Knots was not serialized. The episodes were self-contained and the focus was on the four married couples. Lucy wouldn't have fit. Plus, her character was already established in Dallas

This never sat well with me. Gary and Val moving to California to start a new life for themselves meant that for a second time they were abandoning their own daughter. Logically it would have made sense for Lucy to be with them instead of remaining in Dallas. Consequently, she became an after thought in her parents lives since they hardly saw or spoke to her when they left.

I agree with you. Especially Val leaving her in Dallas.

LBF522, I disagree, California was better for Gary and Val . For the first time in Gary's adult life he was settled down, he had a job ,then a ranch, etc . Plus they made lifetime friends with Karen and syd and Mac McKenzie, and Laura and greg and others . This was a smart move for them plus JR and Gary could not exist together in the same house or the same state . Gary was better off far away from him .

Jason Raczkowski Excellent points. Gary didn’t have the patience or wherewithal all Bobby had. I think JR visited KL more than Lucy did.

@@woohooboy When Gary and Val moved to California, Lucy was technically already an adult. She was a freshman in college.

In Winter it is

because she was nobody. In mini series first thing JR asks when Boby married "Is she somebody?" (about Pam) and in early seasons it is mentioned that it was important to JR to marry Sue Ellen - miss Texas, good acquisition to the family

Lucy inheritied $5 million from Jock's will. She lived at Southfork rent free and didn't have many expensives. Plus, she modeled for a few years and made lots of money.

It was JR’s fault ! He had his proud boys take Lucy away from Valene when she was just a baby , he hurt Lucy more than anyone , it’s his fault not Gary and Valene !

Because the two shows tried to separate themselves from each other. Dallas was about the wealthy while Knots was about the middle class. Lucy wouldn't have fit into Knots

@@radrobd123 However Gary, Abby, and Sumner were very rich.

Lucy's Twin Siblings Were Opposite Sex Fraternal Twins,Her Brother And Sister,Robert(Bobby) Named After Their Uncle Bobby And Elizabeth(Betsy).

I had heard a rumor they tried to get her to guest star in 1992 to come to Val's funeral but she was unavailable. However she was mentioned on that show. Mack offered to try to track her down in Europe and I remember she left Dallas the 2nd time to move to Europe a few years before.

Should HAVE, not should 'of'!

Lucy at this point was already a freshman in college. She was living in a big mansion. She didn't want to move into a small (in her eyes) house in another state.

Those Lee Raintree (real name Con Sellers) books were his own fictional version of Dallas and Knots to capitalize on their success and to write trashy romance novels. I think the first book was released in 1981. David Jacobs created both shows and wrote the story bibles of these characters.

It stopped being boring when she found out she was sleeping in the hayloft with her uncle, Ray, eh?

Ewww

She was married and nothing.

@@CaptainSpalding72 I agree. That marriage to Mitch was boring as watching paint dry. The writers did not have anything for her to do. When they did write for her, they were silly boring stories seperate from the main family storyline.