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KNX ETS5 Tutorial - Heating Hell

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Alderley.ai

Alderley.ai

7 жыл бұрын

A video describing a residential setup for a knx heating control system. Heating system control is one of the more advanced functionalities that a knx system has to meet and the set up can be challenging. Here I give an introduction to the structure, equipment and the necessary programming required. Good Luck! Products used Theben Varia, HMG 6T, RMT

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@panosthebest1
@panosthebest1 5 жыл бұрын
Incredible job man! Thank you so much for this! You have no idea how hard it is to find a decent ets programming tutorials like yours to actually show you useful information. I think you might be the only one! :D So thank you again for all your work .
@Alderleyai
@Alderleyai 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I had the same trouble as you. I figured it all out myself through trial and mostly error.
@ilyass_bouarasse
@ilyass_bouarasse 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video
@juanmanuelsende5805
@juanmanuelsende5805 6 жыл бұрын
How do you operate the pump, as far as I know the pump should be turned off when all the valves are closed. So how do you manage it with out a logic module? are you using HVAC request to manage the switch actuator?
@juanmanuelsende5805
@juanmanuelsende5805 6 жыл бұрын
If any one has the same problem my MDT valve controller has woolen value of 1 if any of the valves it's opened
@sarbinasahaptheen4889
@sarbinasahaptheen4889 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Alderley. After voltage dip, exhaust fan in our office not running. The office become very hot. How to solve this problem in ETS5. Thank You!
@ZFIXXX
@ZFIXXX 5 жыл бұрын
Hi If I want to use these actuators on the radiator which one you recommend 24V or 230V and can I group them cable wise so each room say got 2 radiators and the signal go to them on the same channel.Great Job thanks !!!!!
@G8YTZ
@G8YTZ 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, my set-up is similar to yours, though my implementation is slightly different. I have Theben HMT12 (24V) driving my Rehau Underfloor Actuators, the "Call heat" from the Heat Pump is implemented using the HMT-12 add-on relay module. I have individual Gira 3+ Room controllers and in most rooms I take the average of two temperature sensors on opposite sides of the room. However I am confused with one thing: What exactly is the KNX Compliant "Controller Status" Data Point? Does is allow complete control/status of the Room Thermostat through a single Group Address, including two circuit heating & cooling in a single room, e.g. UF actuator control and Towel radiation (in my use case the radiator is Electric driven from a Gira 16 Channel binary actuator) That seems to be the implication. Best regards, Justin.
@danielbairstow
@danielbairstow 4 жыл бұрын
what type of cable would you use to connect the actuator to the radiator valves?
@Luzt.
@Luzt. 7 жыл бұрын
Great work!
@torinhuxley7535
@torinhuxley7535 3 жыл бұрын
i know Im quite randomly asking but does anyone know a good website to stream newly released tv shows online ?
@bishopquentin3577
@bishopquentin3577 3 жыл бұрын
@Torin Huxley i use FlixZone. Just google for it =)
@elflewis3465
@elflewis3465 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, unsure if you are still monitoring this, but I'll give it a go! I have a similar setup, but with direct electrical heating. The temperature can fluctuate quickly, and Im trying to stop the heating turning on and off repeatedly. Is there a way to effectively program "on at 20.5 degrees, off at 21.5", so that the heaters dont switch on and off every time it dips below/above 21? I dont have the controller, so would be doing this just with the theben controls. Thanks for any pointers!
@Alderleyai
@Alderleyai 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Elf, good question. First check the controller documentation you have. There might be a way without a logic controller. If not you could just change the time associated with the temperature sensor to say 15mins, then the heater will come on for at least 15mins
@helavarlden8466
@helavarlden8466 5 жыл бұрын
This is rather academic - if you live in a cold climate with water based underfloor heating. Water based underfloor heating is slow to respond. It takes about four hours or so for the heating to settle to a new temperature. So switching modes can be somewhat unpractical. Besides, at 60+ north, you do wish to keep your thermal mass warm and not pump the temperature up and down. I am not an expert on this, but it sounds counter intuitive and it may well be cheaper to keep the acquired temperature constant compared to a cooling and heating cycle.
@robertkalinowski9413
@robertkalinowski9413 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, Actually properly done underfloor heating, response of few degree higher temperature in just 0,5 an hour. The system might be easily adjusted to what exactly final temperature you will get in half an hour from the moment of start the heating system. Other way the system can learn how long boiler got to be on to get to 21degree in 30 min in combine with current temperature that is outside and inside.
@thomasbreheny225
@thomasbreheny225 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have watched your video few times, you mention that one of the modes of control you have is that the Varia can control the room temperature of a number of rooms via the HMG 6T as a valve actuator, I presume that the set points are fixed by the Varia and your temperature from the Jung light switches is reporting each actual room temperature to the Varia. Then the Varia send a % single to the actuator to control each zone valve on the manifold to control room temperature?
@Sheffypea
@Sheffypea 6 жыл бұрын
Yep absolutely correct.
@TiMxNeI
@TiMxNeI 6 жыл бұрын
Didnt understand, what are you using to measure the temperature for rooms
@TiMxNeI
@TiMxNeI 6 жыл бұрын
Please can you send me how did you use the group addresses for heating system
@Alderleyai
@Alderleyai 6 жыл бұрын
So each room has at least one device that measures temperature. Typically this is a light switch or movement/presence sensor. For rooms with multiple sensors I post the values to a new group address that is listened for on the raspberry pi. The pi has a short script that takes in the output from all the sensors and outputs the mean to the "room temperature " group address, which the controller listens to.
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