Or maybe he would have broken down sooner. Not all bodies are meant to go hard 24/7

​@@SuperRobertoClementeStill no excuses for a elite professional athlete to not be in shape, being paid millions of dollars a year to play. That's a team investment,Shaq should have put in some effort in staying fit.

@@c.antoniojohnson7114 He was a defensive bully back then, so I don't think anyone on the Lakers was willing to stand up to him until they finally lost and he got traded.

@@SuperRobertoClementehe didn’t get traded cause they lost

Yet Kobe's body was so broken down when he retired that he couldn't really do much, period. He could walk for a bit. And he couldn't ride in cars. So imagine a big guy like Shaq working like Kobe. Something would break down in him.

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Phil knew what he was doing. Shaq couldn’t possibly train and play like Jordan or Kobe.

Jordan is overrated. He was Lucky to have the right teamates like Bill russel

😂😂😂

​@@silveriocervantes4225tell me your born 2000 something without telling me your born after 2000

That’s how you saw it? I see him as a divider he never met them half way and also scapegoated Kobe… watch this whole interview Brian Shaw even mentioned that

@@TheStylishChefCheeseI do see it that way. I also listen to both Shaq & Kobe on Phil's approaches. Both have spoken highly about him with good reason. Kobe once shared in an interview about what a great mind Phil was. Shaq went down with an injury, and Phil asked Kobe to pick up the slack. So Kobe did. When Shaq healed up and returned, Kobe was still going full on, and it was disrupting team chemistry. Phil asked Kobe to dial it back. Kobe said why? Phil replied because if you keep going like you're going, I'm going to lose Shaq. He's going to lose interest and focus, and we are going to need him for the playoffs. Dial it back now, so we have the big fella clicking on all cylinders come playoff time. Kobe was like 🤯 holy shit, you're right. So he dialed it back, and big fella smoothly transitioned back into the lineup. He mentioned how Phil had a vision and mind for the little things, and how smart he was. I also don't know if I could agree that Phil used Kobe as a scapegoat. Those couple of years after Shaq left, Kobe was just a bad teammate and player to be around in general. He pushed everyone away (acknowledged by himself), and the lakers were pretty bad. It took Phil coming back, and Kobe dialing it back again, for him to win 2 more.

​@@LynxStarAuto it took the lakers to get any kind of servicable player to put next to Kobe for them to get it together. Phil never did anything without the 2 best shooting guards in the history of the game. Did he save the day when they were falling apart to detroit? Nah, cause hes not on the court. Zen master tho, oooh... the triangle has never done anything, anywhere without Kobe or MJ. Doc Rivers won a chip. If that doesnt tell you how little it takes from a coach, I dunno what will. How bout Monty Williams in detroit. Goes from viewed as one of the best on a championship contender to "should he even be a coach" in less than a year. Smarten up, son.

Sounds like he was soft, same as you and shaq lol. Mamba mentality too harsh for most these days.

​@@fenixchief7Shaq was moving around 350+ pounds, Kobe was at most 190 during that time. You cannot expect Shaq to go full throttle for a full 82 games and stay healthy enough to play a full post season with 40+ minutes every game of every round.

You must not remember when Kobe ratted on shaq to the cops when he was caught up in grape allegations 😂😂. He said he should of just paid women off like shaq had. That got info obviously got out and shaqs wife heard about it.

​@@865styleokay? And Shaq was obv in the wrong there... Doing awful shit he shouldn't even be doing?? So why are u standing up for the person committing the horrible acts?? Shows who your true character is....😬

@@philvillafana2584hater

Kobe was the one person who wasn't afraid to call it as it was😂😂😂😂

@@865styleyep people always forget that situation and they all get treated like Saints now even though they were paying off underage girls and doing unthinkable things. And Shaw act like Kobe was one of his greatest friends. Let’s be honest Shaq is glad Kobe is gone cause he can’t talk about the past no more.

1 of them retired 3x 😅.

Like LeBron isn’t equivalent to them 😂

1st off mamba mentality not mj mentality mj was smokin and gambling that's not kobe bro just because they played similar don't mean you can attribute mj kobe qualities mj was better than almost everyone kobe worked to get to that point because he was facing better athletes an more skilled players

Your favorite player is way overrated.

You don't know that and Lbj works out so much people start criticizing him for posting it you'll always trying act like mj and kobe did something so different and all it was is act like @$$ towards their teammates 🤔 and ball hog

Naw it’s was for the SA allegations everyone likes to forget about Now that he died I used to be one of the only dudes to bring him up for his skill and it would always be shutdown by the SA allegations(which it should be because I only give credit to his basketball abilities) but now thag he’s dead he another MJ

@@sirnoname6943 wrong. Kobe was disliked before then and people used to whine that he only won because of Shaq. All 3 rings came before those allegations.

@@Kaydl24It was because he was a jealous and insecure narcissist that couldn’t stand having to give up the spotlight to Shaq as by far the better player, so instead he had to start beef and be a ball hog while shoot bad shots at high volume and low efficiency instead of just getting it down to Shaq. It’s why we lost the ‘04 Finals because of Kobe’s selfishness and wanting to the Finals MVP, so Shaq had to do it with DWade instead

​@samconn7276 You speak of exactly whats bullshit about this. You would be the 99% deferring to Shaq instead of challenging him or yourself to be better. Weakness is not the Laker way so get outta here with that weak shit.

@@samconn7276shaq literally was a narcissist so your arguments should apply to shaq as well

To be fair, Shaq was gifted with freakish genetics compared to Kobe, so that probably led him to become lazy as he didn't need to put in the work like Kobe did to be successful.

Being in a military ran by whyte supremacist who call themselves Christian’s but sending people to murder other poor people in the name of maintaining the white power structure is not something to be proud of dude

@@user-nz5nd9xq1g user- fair assumption

Is it necessarily true that Shaq was lazy though? Or maybe it was just a perception thing? I'm just beginning to wonder because Brian Shaw said in the video that Phil was telling Shaq to take the summers off to rest and be healthy. You have to remember that Shaq was in fact raised in a military family and he respected authority to the fullest on top of just respecting Phil for who he was. So maybe he was just doing as he was told

Don't think it wassupposed, but reality

Kobe was just the sidekick to Shaq. Shaq was the alpha during those Finals runs....

​@@tbjb009for about 2 seasons then it changed don't down play The Mamba... thats why Shaq feels bad Kobe copped more hardware than him lol cut it out

​@@tbjb009No, he wasn't. He just outweighed his opponents by 70-80lbs.

You sound silly especially since Centers such as Kareem Abdul-jabbar & Bill Russell said a guy Shaq's size wouldn't last as long if he tried that. What year did Kobe play center again

@@melvynsngltn27 Apparently from 96-2004.

The gold standard.... whey protein

Can't call yourself a leader if you don't lead. Kobe stood by that Rip

If u are trying to quote Mike Tomlin.....9-8 is the standard nowadays!!

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MJ yeah , Kobe he'll naw not even close .

Damn bro that's deep😮

That's some bs lol. You describing someone like Barkley. Kobe about himself.

I keep telling y'all Shaq would've never won without Kobe/Wade.. He couldn't do it when he was in Orlando, he didn't start winning until he played with Kobe/Wade..

I remember blaming Kobe for the breakup. Now I know I was completely wrong. I didn't know what happened behind the scenes. Kobe was completely justified to call out Shaq's work ethic.

legendary pornstars are cool too, kinda inherent in the word "legendary"

It was Shaq’s team his first year in Miami (2005) he finished 2nd in MVP.

​@@BIgZz00 That's why they lost. They won when everybody realized it was Wade's team.

@@BlackLight_VA that’s actually incorrect!! In 2005 the ECF in game 5 Wade got hurt. It was 3-2 Heat up on the Pistons. Wade missed game 6 due to an rib injury and came back game 7 but wasn’t the same player. That’s why they loss. If not for that injury Pistons get smoked and Heat play the Spurs in 2005. Gotta learn basketball if you are going to talk it👍🏽. Also in 2006 Shaq avg 20-10-2-2 from regular season and playoffs up until the finals. In the 2006 ECF Shaq avg 22-11 and was the most impactful player that series. Wade carried in the finals. When Shaq left that team Wade and Heat were trash not winning a single playoffs series for 4 years after until LeBron and Bosh showed up. Wade wasn’t squat without Shaq

@@BIgZz00 They won the finals when Wade led them as the MVP. It was his team. Don't know what point you was trying to make with that long comment.

@@BlackLight_VA like I said Shaq avg 20-10-2-2 from regular season and playoffs up until the finals and was more impactful in the ECF! When shaq left Miami ur boy Wade was trash couldn’t even win a playoff series for 4 years until LeBeon and Bosh shows up. Sorry Wade was garbage without Shaq

not enough said infact you said nothing

MGay and GayBron, nuf said

In your opinion what made him the 🐐?

@@StevenHunterPangians1 what makes a crow black?

​​@@StevenHunterPangians1• 🐐🐐🐐 travel in herds. Leave it alone.

Everyone knows the real finals were in the WCF. Kobe cooked in those series. Spurs had already won in 99 and if Lakers weren't winning then it was spurs in the west. Shaq needed Kobe to get to the finals.

​@@CampLife-pl7ezand Kobe was the sidekick to those runs too....Shaq was the man

@@tbjb009 Only a casual would say such a thing. Go look at the tapes, or u done with the 2000s too?

True, he needed Kobe to win in LA. Kobe was not a sidekick. He didn’t start winning in Orlando until he had a great wing/guard in Hardaway. People seem to forget how great Hardaway was until he got hurt. He needed a peak Wade to win in Miami. Shaq needed a great guard like Kobe, Wade, and Hardaway to win or contend. He never could otherwise. Wade and Kobe won without Shaq though.

@@ehrenthompson7891Wade and Kobe won wing out Shaq? Are you forgetting who they had on those teams they won with?

Truth

@@MoreSmartter Why? Because at his peak, he was 373lbs!!! 🤡🤡

Kobe should of been more of a team player. That so called out of shape shaq was still the most dominant force in the league. You must bring the double team, and shaq was a willing passer out of traffic which left guards on an island. But kobe wanted to be Jordan.

@@dickeymono Kobe was averaging 5-6assts in that era, sometimes 7 in certain playoff series. But you wouldn't know that though because you never saw it.

@@melvinhhcp3615 Opps! Breaded Basketball Player Here 👋: So, who said that a certain amount of assists.. doesn't make you a ball hog or a selfish player? Example: If kobe brings the ball up the court, decides to keep the ball, and Jacks up a shot..vs Wade bringing the ball up the court, decides pass the ball to the left or right..to start the ball movement..tell me..who was awarded an assist?..neither of them! The triangle offense is an equal opportunity offense..IF.. everyone buys into it 100%. In other words, a player (kobe) can still choose to keep the ball, allowing the defense to reset and attempt to force his offense.. When he could have easily just ran the offense all the way through. Resulting in another professional getting the ball in an easier position. You bring up (stats) assist numbers when stats are just a SUMMARY.. of the game, the season, the playoffs, of a player's career. Do you open a book, read the summary, then claim to know the book?..no! You just insulted yourself by bringing up assist numbers. People who use stats to justify their claim are the people who can't read film nowhere near an elite level. Class Dismissed! You thought you knew the sport simply by bringing up stats.. not even close.

Umm,we already seen a much better Kobe....MJ. Now we never seen another MJ, though. Kobe was just a Great Value version of MJ 😂

Shaq has injuries and healed in the off season

Maybe, shaq carried them "out of shape"

@@claytongiampaolo7848categorically false. Shaq had it easy because he was so much better than the opposing centers. So even though Kobe was 120 times the player, the offense is designed to go through shaq because he is leaps and bounds over his competition.

Or he could've gotten hurt faster

​@@TheGhostofMrArthurs"better" = bigger

During his prime he was far from weak

dont act like kobe didnt have an ego

​@@srensen3081we don't Kobe drive was by far unmatched between Shaq n Kobe

And if they would have stayed Kobe would have been winning more MVPs than Shaq too the older Kobe got the better he was Shaq even if he stayed he was getting more out of shape and didn't care as much as Kobe

now just imagine how much better every single person would be if they didnt have flaws, wow its amazing

He ain't ever lie.

He got traded

@@MoreSmartter no he didnt, hope this helps.

Greatest asshole ever

He was saying that Phil asked Shaq to be in shape,

Idk why u didn't doubt urself when u misheard lol. Nobody would say that

Phil is a known liar

@@pfunk42bra use your brain. Phil would’ve wanted shaq to come in camp in shape

@@pfunk42Phil is a big time prick not much of a liar though.

Watched them both, Whole careers. Shaq was in shape when he played for LSU, Let's not forget about Chris Jackson and Stanley Roberts. As a superstar athlete, when a team is paying you 180 million over six years you should be in shape. Kobe did what a professional does, work hard and perfect his game. That's what a elite professional athlete is supposed to do, not sit around and eat without a care. Sounds like you're trying to shame Kobe for working hard. It's the NBA, not the court in the hood.

@@c.antoniojohnson7114 You really took my comment totally wrong Big Guy, Nor did I ever bash Kobe, Kobe never took the kinds beating Shaq did, Shaq rested his body as much as possible when he wasn't on the court and he still delivered, Now do you really think they couldn't have won several more championships together had Kobe not kept his mouth shut, I Think they still would have won & for Kobe to go on tv and say he should have paid off the chick and cover it up like Shaq does was TOTAL DISRESPECTFUL & I BE DAMN IF I WOULD WANT TO STILL PLAY ALONGSIDE THAT BULL💩 EITHER... ✌🏿 MY BROTHER.... PRECIATE THE COMMENT THOUGH....

No it really fucking didn’t 😂 90% of the teammates they had sided with Shaq, many detested Kobe

THIS 100%​!@@hardwoodthought1213

cant be a leader if youre actively hated by your teammates buddy

@@srensen3081 oh yeah what was Jordan than he is hated by pretty much hated by mostly Bulls players they are doing a tour right now talking about how much they hate Jordan trust me a leader is mostly hated not liked a leader will tell you what you don't wanna hear and that my friend are mainly the people who want have that many friends but will succeed in life you not gonna have too many friends on the road to being successful just giving you life advice but look at Jordan and Kobe them being leaders gave them more championships than Shaq and Lebron all put together you see Shaq wasn't really trying to be no leader why you think before Kobe came he had all that help from Eddie Jones and Van Axel P Hardaway and still was losing because he was too busy living the Hollywood life more than winning a championship Lebron Tries to be friends and share the ball to 68 overalls on his team and wonder why he kept losing in the finals. Kobe and Jordan is like you gonna have to earn my respect to get this ball thats not being selfish thats being smart so therefore you won't have a J.R. Smith moment again lol why would Jordan and Kobe keep passing the ball to their team mates when its time to close a game you putting too much pressure on them Lebron does that a lot to protect his stats and to say you see it was my team mate that fuc... up not me and that my friend is being selfish just in reverse Shaq won 1 without Kobe with no fmvp Kobe won 2 without Shaq and 2 mvps look like Shaq was giving them finals mvp because he was the veteran with the better look but Kobe game was better than Shaq Kobe can shoot threes, free throws, and was a better closer than Shaq and more focus Shaq can thank Kobe for them MVPs. Shaq of course win them mvps in that easy a.. finals game but who balled out everytime on the road to the finals yeah Kobe even when there toughest competition was on the West so them mvps don't really count Shaq couldn't do nothing to Duncan while Kobe was cooking Duncan ok so when the finals came Kobe sit back a little after he poured his heart out on the court in them tough a.. Western Semi-Finals and still don't get no credit because he is not 7'1 320lbs

Yes, but even shaq would agree that he didn't have a strong enough work ethic. He could've been even better if he worked on his game like Kobe did.

Can't question the man

​@@demichelloconley1888 says who? If you don't max out your potential then you have to be open to criticism. Shaq himself says he's regretful he didn't work as hard as others, and even said he's jealous that he's not mentioned in the GOAT conversation when he could have been...

Those 3 could of been 6 or 7. That's da difference mentality

Those 3 could have been 1 or 0. The real finals in those days were in the WCF. Timmy D had already won in 99. Kobe cooked in the WCF and Shaq couldn't get it done before Kobe became Kobe. He had Penny and then had 3 more yrs to win while Kobe was a bench rider.

if shaq had kobes work ethic there wouldnt be no debate about who was better are you mental?

Good thing he wasn’t because if he were there would be no Kobe.

fuck yeah, lets have exactly 2 players who want to stay on that team

Don't tell Shaq that

kobe with shaq's social skills wouldve been the goat