I thought it seemed cool too and if the main problem was printing cost, an online version would be cool. I'd try it out

Yes, it would be. Add in a robust 3D system allowing monsters to be visually "grafted" onto each-other, and you'd have a hit game!

it could work more as a boar game tcg hybrod tbh

Honestly, didn't know about this game but I am so hyped by the ingenuity and concept. I agree that if it were to be remade digitally I'd be sold immediately

My thoughts exactly, actually looks like a cool game. I'd see it less as a tcg with packs and more as a hand-building game though. Similar to Sushi-Go!.

card long

Don't give Yugioh any ideas to expand text even more, lol. Next thing you'll see is Epic Paragraph Dragon 1-7.

@@DeckKnight Yugioh? More text? WTF would they even do with it--describe the art more? Make even more obvious names for everything?

@@therealbahamut Yu-Gi-Oh has some MONSTER effect texts. They've gotten better at writing them over time, and most of the bad ones are pretty old, but there's some infamous 'seven lines in 3 pt text' examples. Look up Relinquished if you want to see a REAL tough one.

@@EinDose imagine if relinquished's text got rewritten to "haha, monster go in belly"

“Your games all work weird and bad and they suck but at least they work”

As someone who collected cards from 3 of these growing up and would still have Pokemon cards if I didn't have nephews/nieces who could actually play the game with friends at least in theory, I am feeling exactly this about the outliers in every episode :P

Nah, this guy's a YGO fanboy.

@@TechHug More a DuelMasters fan (you can kinda tell, I've not seen a YUGIOH card signed by the creator of said card but he got a DuelMasters card signed as it was linked to good memories)

Given MTG is kinda wacky at times anyways, thinking of the double-faced cards GIVEN ALSO that's a very special case where they have a functional reason to be weird + they fit into a sleeve just fine and have had separate "helper" cards be printed specifically for legal format use

It even outright has some crossover cards.

There is a manga about mtg for real now

man I miss Duel Masters. I liked it better than magic :( I've been playing the japanese duel masters online app but I wish it was viable enough to have a global release still. Oh well.

The author of the manga was also a former assistant of Kazuki Takahashi (the creator of Yugioh) and the main reason for DM's "flop" in the West was that it was intended to serve as a springboard for MTG into the Asian market, yet it was so successful that no one wanted MTG there. ^^ (as well as a MTG burnout in Europe (circa 2004/05) and mishandled marketing in the US)

There is a game boxed card game that uses that type of mechanic called Gloom.

@@Steev42 Yeah Gloom is awesome BUT it is a boxed game that doesn't rely on being collected. For those not in the know Gloom is about picking a family with 5 members and slowly layering on suffering ontop of them (like being 'bothered by bees'). It's a great thing for improv because you have to describe just how the family member suffered this disaster. Then you kill the family member off when you think you've got enough points and to stop your Opponent removing suffering from a family member. Yes it IS a very dark card game.

not really, the cards are extremely hard to shuffle.

@@luketfer i tend to be the one playing a bunch of happy cards on my family first for all the bonuses

@panda cooper you mean arkham horror?

I was actually thinking that myself that being said i still think the mutate mechic is a giant fustercluck

I run the mutate edh precon and it is quite odd with trigger stacking and such

This was exactly my thoughts

@@shaden489 Yeah due to Covid I havent had the pleasure of actually playing with mutate yet but it just seems really confusing

@@thedadawson2749 I just made an gihdora king of the cosmos mutate deck and it had so many weird interactions and honestly I love it

I got a pack from the bargain bin just for my collection of dead games.

I'll take "Sentences I Didn't Think Would Ever Exist," for 5000, Alex.

I mean, at least Decade cards would have fit more...

I've never even heard of this franchise before. It looks ridiculous! Lol

Maybe product placement or looking like real life versions too much rules for TV in certain countrys so it could air anywhere caused this. The Giant action figures having projector animations in them that work with all cards was a different idea. But this was only card game in UK they sold in Action Figure section i remember.

Not gonna lie I had no idea there was a card game attached to the show

So then not bushiroad/vanguard is a sin. Pokémon, DBS, and Marvel are all proving to be successful despite not promoting the game with it being played directly in the show, naruto had a rather successful run without the show revolving around the game, and while it’s pretty early the new digimon game is proving to be successful without the show involving the cards. Bakugan while suffering from problems with distribution and lgs support (partially due to how redikai screwed spinmaster’s TCG credibility) the show’s lack of card game focus hasn’t been shown to be an issue with its ability to entice fans. Then you have games like Magic the gathering and hearthstone which don’t even have shows in the first place. Lastly even many of the shows where the card game is played it is hardly analogous, yugioh is so detached from how the game is actually played in a competitive level and devoid of anything close to the meta it hardly even resembles the actual game, and WiXoss focuses so little on the gameplay it is incomprehensible without already playing (which is fine as that isn’t the point of the show) and sometimes isn’t even in line with the game. The one of the only shows that accurately depicts its game that I’ve seen is Cardfight Vanguard, which kohdok despises (despite many regarding it as one of the best card game anime around) so I highly doubt kohdok would consider that a sin.

Haos magna Ingram I agree that Kohdok won’t consider this a sin but I think that if their is a show based off a card game not vice versa it should at least include the fact that there are cards out there.

Those are just the *deadly* sins. There are others, but these aren't as vital, I think.

Good news! He does more in a similar format called errata text!

I've played a ton of games at once but reduced it down to a reasonable amount of board games, and have moved away from TCG/CCGs other then online format... but its a big number. :D

I play all of them including redekai which I still have a set at my house

I was about to say "they own a game store" as a justification but at my lgs the owner plays just plays mtg and barely at that so...

It's called being an old gamer. Ever played Wyvren or Quest for the Grail? Great games. 100% dead

How do you have the money to play 3 separate card games and remain competitive?

It was an evolution of the Host mechanic from Unstable, their joke set. Basically they were cards with halves, where they combine into a greater whole. But that tended to be parasitic.

yep, as soon as i saw it i thought of mutate.

Can confirm, bought them for Planechase and Commander.

They're made by Ultimate Guard and Ultra Pro.

FFG makes them, and they are easily found.

Yeah if I can find them in Perth, Australia, world's most isolated capital city, pretty sure you can say they're readily available.

@@rhythmandblues_alibi yes, I can say that. Tarot sleeves are something that are generally available. Even if you can't find them locally, they are always available online. Cost of shipping may be high, but they are easily found.

Same. I think maybe it’s because both the near necessity of the cards being larger for 2 bakugan to open on, and the fact that you played with an unshuffled deck of just a very small number of cards. That being said it was annoying for storage and maintenance purposes. Gate cards getting frayed seriously sucks, and not even being able to sleeve ability cards was just stupid. It’s very understandable why at least gate cards had that sin though.

Or a digital card game

Funny thing, paper sizes (A1, A2, A3 and so on) are just like that, you put two of the of the same size together and they'll have the same area as the next bigger size

The only issue now is how much text is on new cards

@@pandosham PENDULUM

They have so much text on the card they should be standard size.

@@patbateman69420 nah, I play yugioh, the card text is fine. Even on big daddy Endymion.

It just the standard size for Japanese card games, YGO legitimately just has a different demographic. The card size is fine. No card game player reads anyways so too much text is not a problem.

Least they have the checklist cards to remedy that.

​@@garrukwildspeaker2230 I got deck checked for top 8 of an Innistrad event and got warned for marked cards even though they were checklist cards, the judge thought I might have been able to see the dent from the tick on the back of the card and known what I was going to draw lmao also they were suss because I was 3 - 0 after windmill slamming a trepanation blade on terror of kruin pass in basically every game

DM it the third (in japan) and fourth biggest TCG in the rest of asia.

Also, now that i think about it, there was some weird cards that had a thingy that you could pull out I check it out and it's in a avatar the last airbender cards game

Also reminds me of that unstable card type but that was 2 at a time

There are a lot of advantsges to tarot size cards. But u cant print en masse like most card games. Make the product more expensive but less junk cards. Its really to make cards the most packed with content and quality you can for that.

I'd love an SMT card game

What's SMT?

@@danielwappner1035 I'm guessing Shin Megami Tensei.

Shin Megami Tensei is right. The franchise has a very well balanced combat system and if it could be translated to a card game it would be so satisfying. If you’re unfamiliar with SMT, Persona is a spin-off of it, so a lot of personas are demons in SMT.

I recently learned of Warlords and I wish that game was available today, it seems really fun.

Uhh... What? I tried comparing my Vanguard cards to my pokemon card, Vanguard's smaller...

Vanguard cards iirc are the same size as yugioh's, not sure what you're talking about

The plastic cards is a silly gimmick. However stacking cards on a creature is a good idea. It is cool to see a creature get stronger with supporting cards. Pokemon actually does this. The Pokemon themselves are powered up by resource cards and sometimes by held item cards. Stacking also allows weaker Pokemon to evolve into stronger ones. This is all done without the plastic. The physical Pokemon cards are normal cards. They are the standard size and material. So I recommend to just doing what Pokemon does. If anybody has never played it, they should learn the basics of how that works. They should do that before they think about using the silly gimmick. There has got to be some KZfaq videos about how to play Pokemon. The minimum effort should be to watch a video. I used to play the Pokemon card game when I was a kid. I never played the Digimon game. I did watch the anime for both franchises as a kid. I do know that Digimon evolved too. It was so cool with the music, the spinning and the flashes. This video shows some footage of stacking Digimon cards. I recognize that as the evolution of Matt's Digimon, which is named Gabumon. In Digimon jargon, this is called digievolution. Pokemon cards stack for evolution in the same way. MTG does creature stacking to a lesser extent. In my old comment I talked about a special case of the Ikoria set. Stacking also occurs sometimes in the main game. Creatures are powered up by equipment or auras. That involves card stacking. I have thought about my own mechanic. It is where a creature card stacks on an element card and class card. This has a huge effect on the creature as it fights in different ways. Element cards have a rock paper scissors interaction, just like the types in Pokemon. The class cards are based on classes of RPGs, such as warrior, mage and priest. There are different roles. Some classes are more offensive and some are more defensive. These extra effects should really take up their own cards. Separate cards also bring more flexibility. Players can put any combination of element and class on their creature. I like this idea. Maybe there can even be extra cards to make cards even more powerful and unique. I am still doing development. So none of this is set in stone. Since I know what Pokemon does, I can use this mechanic without committing this sin. Besides I am thinking of a lot of features in the cards. I would like element cards to show strengths and weaknesses to many elements. The Pokemon TCG had a major simplification of the type system when compared to the original game. Part of it is that Pokemon has a lot of groupings, like Card Fight Vanguard. So supporting all types can be two difficult. So types got merged from 15 to 7. Note that those numbers came up in the original generation. Later times added the dark, steel and fairy types. This is an issue that was discussed in sin number 3. Another issue is card space. Pokemon creature cards are already crowded. There is info for HP, attacks, costs, effects and evolution. Then at the way bottom, there is a single weakness and sometimes a single resistance. If element was a whole separate card, there would be more room for more interactions. Class cards would have attributes. By attributes, I don't mean the colorful groupings in sin number three. When I hear attributes in gaming, I usually think of statistics that passively make a fighter stronger. It is something in the RPG games. The Pokemon video game has the attributes hit points, speed, attack, defense, special attack and special defense. I recently got into DND, which is the first RPG. It was played by tabletop. In that game, attributes are added to dice rolls and give the character a boost. I did figure out how this can be incorporated in a card game. The creature cards have their own damage and hit point amount. Then a class card is stacked onto that. That brings attributes. These attributes apply special bonuses to the fighter. I have four. Strength increases user damage. Armor reduces the opponent's damage. Health increases user hit points. Speed decreases opponent's hit points. I am still developing my ideas.

It's not a surprise since even with cardboard this kinfd of problems may occur. Like for yugi-oh where some high-rarity cards where heavier. It seems its not anymore the case.

1) A. LOT. Back in the mid-oughts, practically every intellectual property had a TCG. They were shovelware on paper. 2) The most expensive buy-in for a TCG I've seen so fa is $669.98. 3) Playtesters always proxy cards to test mechanics.

@@Kohdok 669?????? Was this a version of Pokemon that came with real living Pokemon?

That’s the entire thing Digital Bugs do. Combine little bugs together to make a bigger bug with different boosts depending on which little bugs you used.

Heartstone is a video game. It may be a card based video game, but it doesn't exist in the same reality as a TCG/CCG. They can errata at any point in time, they can have infinite rules text in a card, they can add levels of randomness that aren't feasible for analog play. The rules of what makes a paper TCG/CCG thrive don't apply to them since most of the mistakes that have tanked card games have been related to their analog nature i.e. distribution issues, broken cards, hard to implement rules, poor production quality, etc.