Kopi Time 107 - Kishore Mahbubani on the Asian century versus the American century

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Kishore Mahbubani, Distinguished Fellow at the Asia Research Institute, National University of Singapore, returns to Kopi Time to give his take on China-US relationship, the war in Ukraine and its many facets, and where Asean and India stand in all this. The ever erudite former career diplomat pulls no punches, pointing out poor national strategies, short-term oriented decision making, and hypocrisy on foreign and economic policy across industrialized economies. He worries about US presidential elections next year, although he sees little course correction on US policy toward China, regardless of the outcome. The conflict in Ukraine, however, could be profoundly affected by the US election outcomes. Mr Mahbubani also weighs in on China’s geo-strategic response so far, room for cooperation on climate change, the expansion of Brics, and the outlook for Aaean. We end with a a prognosis on Singapore. The transcript of this chat will be worth saving.

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@geoffreygoldsmith165 8 ай бұрын

What I appreciate about the views of Kishore is that they are both relevant and concise. Not only is he a master communicator but his grasp of the Asian versus Western dynamic is total.

@rodger-ef5xy 8 ай бұрын

In fact his accuracy makes me worry sometimes

@calvinteoh5660 8 ай бұрын

@@rodger-ef5xyhe's from the future

@simroysten7963 8 ай бұрын

No respect to people suffering from TDS, total wackos

@vinay_rai1984 8 ай бұрын

Kishor is a Chinese agent

@donaldjoseph3903 7 ай бұрын

All pro PRC loves him. ❤️ Kishore loves PRC deeply 💖 ❤️ 💙 💓 💕 ♥️.

@righteousbro2384 8 ай бұрын

Professor Mr. Kishore….always giving fair comment.. respect Sir

@rodger-ef5xy 8 ай бұрын

I am being following Kishore comments for a few years now and I think he is very knowledgeable and frankly too honest. In fact he is so honest that the only people who can accommodate him are Chinese because China understand well the kungfu strategies and the go game tactics. Bush said "either you are with us or against us"

@tanl7756 8 ай бұрын

Too bad Singapore agreed with the US on the war.

@donaldjoseph3903 7 ай бұрын

Kishore loves PRC deeply 💖 ❤️ 💙 💓 💕 💗 💖 ❤️

@zackali1997 8 ай бұрын

From London, big respect kishore..

@johnyap4605 8 ай бұрын

Fantastic. Great job on the inside of Singapore. I did not realise that the 70% vote by the Singapore has so much implication on the maturity of the people. Thank you for the sharing. I am proud to be a Singaorean who voted for Mr Tharman, our President. 新加坡加油！ Credit goes to our Ex-PM Mr Lee Kwan Yew who has brought us together with one commom identity, a Singaporean.

@clementsliu 8 ай бұрын

great video. I learn a lot from prof kishore mahbubani

@tigerwong122 8 ай бұрын

Mr Kishore Mahbubani has a very far sighted political knowdege. Yabas to him !

@nizicike759 8 ай бұрын

kishore too know this world than most people on this planet

@jacklinchang 7 ай бұрын

Prof Mahbubani has always been clear, concise and fair in his analysis of the World Economics & Politics. I share with him my fear that at the pace things are going, we will face a WWIII which will wipe out all human beings' achievements. The writing is already on the wall and this is simply something we only pray will not be soon.

@TacticalMayo 7 ай бұрын

If there is a world war 3 that's China's fault because they damn well knew what would happen if you challenge the United States for their throne. ☢️

@frankm6218 8 ай бұрын

Wow! You invited Mr Mahbubani! Always love to listen to him.

@fangxusun1723 8 ай бұрын

what a wise man. unfortunately the Americans would not listen

@TacticalMayo 7 ай бұрын

That's cuz you're a Chinese so you would say some stupid junk like this. We will be dealing with China very soon even if it ends the world ☢️

@Parasuram5 8 ай бұрын

You are very right about Europe being idiotic in dealing with Russia. They have been both dishonest and unfair.

@user-xl3is5bh4c 8 ай бұрын

Big respect Kishore Mahbubani amazing thinking sir.

@adindahutabarat_sinolog 2 ай бұрын

Great viewpoint 台下30年的外交经验和功夫，台上53分钟的精彩观点

@acommon1 2 ай бұрын

Spot on as usual. About TIME more ASEAN & other Asian countries statesmen become more out spoke. Over the past couple of I have stepped up my search and purchases of legacy Asian ✍️ author born in & residing in Asia.

@tonytan6547 8 ай бұрын

There are so many "Americans" elected to European Parliment n European governments

@CO-vv9hv 8 ай бұрын

Kishor and George Yeo are breath of fresh air, unlike the foreign correspondents that fill the main stream media on geopolitical views. No doubt Tharman is an outstanding candidate for presidency. But the outcome would be different if this was an election for a prime minister.

@lucyfiniarel2347 4 ай бұрын

George Yeo is too emotional about China for Singaporeans to trust his objectivity and priorities. Kishore is much better than him.

@janicetone2313 8 ай бұрын

Great Guest!

@thinkingcitizen 2 ай бұрын

Baig sahb, bahut achha ji !

@lityoungkok5879 8 ай бұрын

Great program . Looking forward to more !

@Sky-8646 8 ай бұрын

Always love to listen to kishore talks. In depth knowledge..

@kissoonkissoon1355 7 ай бұрын

Very deep and scientific analysis of the geopolitical situation we are facing today. Kishore is a brilliant geopolitical strategist and analyst

@billmeldrum7669 8 ай бұрын

Excellent interview. Huge admirer of Kishore's analysis of issues over the Longue durée. Curious about his generally positive stance on ASEAN though. Notably, the military coups in Thailand, and Myanmar, thousands of people killed, imprisoned, and disappeared. Yet, ingoing economic support for the junta by ASEAN corporate interests. Although of course, that is their internal affairs, and not a subject to be raised publicly.

@adolft_official 3 ай бұрын

similar to libya, iran, afganistan, iraq, cuba. Nothing to different here

@abriz6688 8 ай бұрын

Hubris keeps the empire afloat but the legs they are standing on have withered.

@zacharycohen9985 7 ай бұрын

Corright. Feet of clay, head of stone

@TacticalMayo 7 ай бұрын

Our legs are made of nuclear weapons. If our legs give out the whole world falls with us ☢️

@adolft_official 3 ай бұрын

the switch is in US hands@@TacticalMayo

@TacticalMayo 3 ай бұрын

@@adolft_official and we will hit that switch.

@allahdinosamo7654 8 ай бұрын

unbeatable Mahbubani!

@simroysten7963 8 ай бұрын

Should be unstable China hack.

@trekpac2 8 ай бұрын

Perhaps we are transitioning from 500 years of empires to finally a multipolar world (where countries pay tribute to China!)

@Andy-P 5 ай бұрын

42:30 Kishore America's No1 allies in the Region is Australia and Japan. Not Vietnam.

@haoli5779 8 ай бұрын

He does know how to talk.

@TacticalMayo 7 ай бұрын

Because he says the exact same script every single time.

@stlaw08 8 ай бұрын

The US should lead, not mafia style but collaboratively with nations rather than divide.

@osos718 5 ай бұрын

Despite of being huge fan of kishore since long, calling us for Climate change as priority for a country is a weak argument

@guestonearth1274 8 ай бұрын

ＭＲ　Kishore

@kcchong5661 8 ай бұрын

the host seems a bit biased against China.

@kerkls9871 8 ай бұрын

Asian games

@cktan3475 8 ай бұрын

@user-nt8ib4hf1w 5 ай бұрын

petervote please do not be narrow minded c'nt you be open minded & self sufficient 😮😮😮

@hikurukutai 8 ай бұрын

So why didn't Biden take Trumps tariffs off

@jimmyng2203 8 ай бұрын

Why Biden or Trump, why not another American becoming US president

@kcyong5028 3 ай бұрын

There got no choice if a new president that love China that’s what they afraid of.

@kanw.9 8 ай бұрын

HE HAS STOPPED TALKING ABOUT CHINA THESE DAYS,

@jacobbechandersen9029 8 ай бұрын

I am looking forward to reading his new book series, probably starting with “Can Indians think”, to be followed by “The Indian Miracle”, and “Has India won?”😂

@user-if1vh8po2f 4 ай бұрын

@@jacobbechandersen9029 Correction: "Can India Ever Win?"

@petervote7914 8 ай бұрын

I'm Singaporean Chinese and I disagree with Kishore on the elections. Tharman was a very strong Indian candidate facing off two very weak Chinese opponents. The story would be different if the Indian candidate was a very weak one.

@wawanhermawan-sz7gl 8 ай бұрын

totally agree, all of my singaporean friends already decided to elect tharman because he has been in various minister positions including vice PM for a long time, so it's clear he's a favorite coming into the election. even mahbubani himself was promoting tharman since a few months ago. i think it's just lip service to say the result is "quite shocking"

@rodger-ef5xy 8 ай бұрын

@@wawanhermawan-sz7gl I am not Singaporean and take Kishore analysis a bit differently. I think he is saying that "who would have thought a few years ago when the Lee family has a hold on everything ... that a non-chinese singaporean would become president in 2023" Imagine someone thinking today that a Chinese-Indian would become India (Bharat) prime minister soon :)

@wawanhermawan-sz7gl 8 ай бұрын

@@rodger-ef5xy previous president was a malay non-chinese, halimah. see, even you didnt know who was singapore's president. like india, no one remembers who's their president (india had several muslim presidents). in that regards, to be "quite shocked" that a non-chinese in singapore or a non-hindu in india could become president is a bit..........exaggerating and disigenuous.

@rodger-ef5xy 8 ай бұрын

@@wawanhermawan-sz7gl You are right, in fact I thought the new guy was Prime Minister, hence my reference to India PM and the Lee Family. Thanks for clarifying

@spade1974 8 ай бұрын

while in malaysia ,how low IQ leader you are,if u belong to one particular race,you will be elected even if he bring you to' hooland'

@user-nt8ib4hf1w 5 ай бұрын

petervote then vote yourself please c'os you don't knows what is politics so please give your advice 😮😮😮

@jamescktan17 8 ай бұрын

I think you are not accurate. Biden to be president. You are blind Kishore. What has he done to world peace. Hahaha

@scalarnai 8 ай бұрын

Kishore should eat his humble pie on his assessment of Biden who has shown himself to be a cognitively impaired not fit to be President, who has threatened nuclear escalation by increasingly supplying inexhaustible amount of weapons to Ukraine in its proxy war against Russia. Further Biden is also racheting up the Taiwan China tension. Alas Biden is fit for the care home, not the White House for the safety of the entire world.

@tstecksuan 8 ай бұрын

I have held high respect for Professor Kishore’s analysis and views on the Asian century but bewildered that he has not revised his recent assessment given the stunning geopolitical shift in the Asia Pacific caused by China’s aggressive and hegemonic foreign policy of the CCP regime at Beijing triggered by Xijinping’s regressive ultranationalist policies down the slippery slope of Mao’s era.

@mbvgvskvrs868 8 ай бұрын

You're watching too much western MSM.

@fajarliong 8 ай бұрын

The Courageously Competent People, you mean?

@WWLooi-js8rl 8 ай бұрын

Which planet are you from?

@fajarliong 8 ай бұрын

Planet where Courageous and Competent People live. The planet where the government could bring out 800 million people out of poverty, have 400 millions high spending power people, where the people with government could build 40 thousand kilometres of high speed rail in just over a decade, build space Station, become the biggest trading partner to over 140 countries, build infrastructure together with 150 countries of over 3000 projects, and so so many more achievement. Great Courageous and Competent People.

@WWLooi-js8rl 8 ай бұрын

@@fajarliong Actually, I was asking the original poster @tstecksuan which planet he is from for his lopsided view of China. Your reply is excellent, nonetheless. 👍

@AbuShivaToyib 8 ай бұрын

Europe is a rich country and has high technology. If Russia joins Europe, the European Union will be a super power that is stronger than the US or China.

@banarama4144 4 ай бұрын

In the past the EU had high technology now they are just America's bixxx

@adolft_official 3 ай бұрын

that tech is gift of colonialism

@estchu 5 ай бұрын

ASEAN was the white Europeans back garden for two centuries. The rise of ASEAN is looked upon with disbelief and jealousy. The tail is now wagging the dog. How the West wishes for a war in the region to destabilize and to trivialize its growth. ASEAN cannot separate from China and the Chinese immigration in the region. Ethnic Chinese do very well and can be a sore point with the locals. Some natives are still lounging for the white man rule. The Philippines has made a turn towards Americana under Marcos. It sticks out like a sore thumb amongst ASEAN.

@user-if1vh8po2f 4 ай бұрын

You DO NOT KNOW the real reason why Marcos is kow-towing to the US??? His father's fortunes are held ransom in the US ... !!!

@DD-sr9xm 8 ай бұрын

I wonder how the good professor processes the sudden sharp downturn in the Chinese economy, and the demographic time bomb ticking away, and the bai lan generation. IMHO the Asian Century is still here but it’s not driven by Chinese economic strength, it’s driven by Chinese instability and security concerns under Xi. And as for the chip technology, it is way over-hyped. Their chips are what AMD was already doing 15 years ago. Its absurd to think that the US government doesn’t do extensive research on China. That’s reductive. It’s absurd to think that the US is using “the Soviet playbook” on China now. That too is reductive. He argues through hypotheticals and not facts.

@johannuys7914 8 ай бұрын

Well, from the outside, it looks like the US is still using the old playbook. US diplomacy, today, is a fallacy. Furthermore, hey have totally weaponized the US dollar which is definitely not a sustainable long term strategy.

@ChongWahHing 8 ай бұрын

"1990. The Economist. China’s economy has come to a halt. 1996. The Economist. China’s economy will face a hard landing 1998. The Economist: China’s economy entering a dangerous period of sluggish growth. 1999. Bank of Canada: Likelihood of a hard landing for the Chinese economy. 2000. Chicago Tribune: China currency move nails hard landing risk coffin. 2001. Wilbanks, Smith & Thomas: A hard landing in China. 2002. Westchester University: China Anxiously Seeks a Soft Economic Landing 2003. KWR International: How to find a soft landing if China.. 2004. The Economist: The great fall of China? 2005. Nouriel Roubini: The Risk of a Hard Landing in China 2006. International Economy: Can China Achieve a Soft Landing? 2007. TIME: Is China’s Economy Overheating? Can China avoid a hard landing? 2008. Forbes: Hard Landing In China? 2009. Fortune: China’s hard landing. China must find a way to recover. 2010: Nouriel Roubini: Hard landing coming in China. 2011: Business Insider: A Chinese Hard Landing May Be Closer Than You Think 2012: American Interest: Dismal Economic News from China: A Hard Landing 2013: Zero Hedge: A Hard Landing In China 2014. CNBC: A hard landing in China. 2015. Forbes: Congratulations, You Got Yourself A Chinese Hard Landing …. 2016. The Economist: Hard landing looms for China 2017. Market Watch: China’s economic problems will come to a head in 2017 2018. CNN: Forget the trade war, China's economy has other big problems 2020. Economics Explained: The Scary Solution to the Chinese Debt Crisis 2021. Global Economics: Has China's Downfall Started? 2022. Cathie Wood: China's COLLAPSE Is FAR Worse Than You Think 2022. Business Basics: China's Economic Crisis, GDP is Crashing, Protests Everywhere. China's financial crisis is here." China 2022. 'The Worst is yet to come'. China's slowdown weighs on Global economy. 2023. 'Why China's economy won't be fixed,' The Economist - An increasingly autocratic government is making bad decisions. The fact that China’s problems start at the top means they will persist 𝗤𝘂𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 : Do you see patterns ? 𝗔𝗻𝘀𝘄𝗲𝗿 : Consistent wrong predictions. 𝗥𝗲𝗮𝘀𝗼𝗻𝘀 : Parts of the US and western propaganda. To smear China. China blind. Sinophobia. 𝗪𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗳𝗮𝘃𝗼𝗿𝗶𝘁𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘀𝗼𝗻𝘀 ?

@rap3208 8 ай бұрын

yes, they have a problem but you watch too much MSM. According to them they'll be collapsing anytime soon. They've been doing this for years, decades. Somebody have to call them out and ask them about their prediction of China downfall every year for years. you should know by now that it is just wishful thinking for the west, perhaps they think that the more they keep talking of China collapsing, the more chance it will happen.

@whirledpeas1663 8 ай бұрын

好汉不提当年勇😂

@jujumantay2157 8 ай бұрын

I'm still not convinced about China. For instance if China is following international rules & norms then it boggles the mind as to why have they drawn borders that impinge upon the sovereignty of ASEAN as well as north Asian countries not to mention India and even their allies Russia. This along with belligerent talk of a Taiwan invasion has caused their neighbours in the region to get nervous and to seek security arrangements with the US. Also China lacks one key ingredient they will need to ultimately overtake the US and the West. Freedom of expression that the US has enshrined in its constitution gives them an edge in a lot of areas not just economic even though it has at the same time contributed to its recent internal issues. Without freedom of expression Chinese industry and entrepreneurs will not be able to question the status quo and push the boundaries that allow them to innovate in the same way as the US. In fact the control that the CCP exerts encourages fear and actively discourage any meaningful discussion to innovate and create as evidenced by the troubles in Hong Kong & the exodus of China and Hong Kong citizens to the west in the last several years. So I'm not convinced that China's rise can be sustained especially with the events of the past few months in mind.

@stevewang2 8 ай бұрын

FREEDOM!? FREEDOM!? FREEDOM!!! We are hunger for FREEDOM! FREEDOM is yummy and delicious!!! LOL...

@trekpac2 8 ай бұрын

You are grossly misreading China.

@hofamily6718 8 ай бұрын

Freedom of expression !! You are permitted to talk all you want !! Just do not expect the US govt to fix gun violence, robberies, homelessness, inflation, wars, corruptions, drugs & the trillion dollar debt problem. Chinese industries like Hwawei, Shein, Tik-Tok, Alibaba innovate far ahead of the US. That is how it became the second largest economy in the world. China has the most advance space station, world telescope, satellites, EV cars, high speed rails, automated ports & amazing infra-structures. That is creativity !! Millions of Chinese tourist visit the world every year, spending their hard earned dollars purchasing local goods. And they all RETURNED to China, their beloved country. Do not just repeat the lies of the Western media. Whether you are convinced about China do not matter a bit. Spend time criticizing others makes people feel superior. I understand.

@pringlessourcream9527 8 ай бұрын

Biden could not string a complete sentence and doesn't know the direction to walk off stage. He is not doing a good job. He is working for his son, hunter.😂

@weliedwecheatedwestole8717 8 ай бұрын

@@stevewang2no point in teaching the stupid.