Great retrieving by the world's best female choppers Kim Kyung Ah / Park Mi Young (KOR) against Guo Yan / Ding Ning (CHN); women's doubles semifinal, 2009 World Table Tennis Championships, Yokohama; China wins 4-1
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@joebulatao11 жыл бұрын
I love watching matches between loopers against choppers. They have long rallies which makes up a very exciting game.
@WheeinJupiterMars7 жыл бұрын
To all of those who've said why aren't they attacking, the fact is that returning a chop is not as easy as you think. If you return it badly, the chopper will smash it hard back to you, which are their intended way to score.
@Katarogy6 жыл бұрын
asdasd im sure, they mean, why the defenders doesnt play sometimes offensive, not why attackers doesnt play agressive topspin all the time
@rovinurulhaq19065 жыл бұрын
Lonycat indah
@philelmo4 жыл бұрын
Obviously it doesn’t work against the Chinese
@KyoFanDuB3 жыл бұрын
They arent attacking. Yes, its a strategy to gain points, based on technique, defense and counterattack. In long terms choper style its not that effective. In this match we can saw clearly how they loss.
@micahaugust3726 жыл бұрын
I was a chopper when playing matches during the school years. Really enjoy great defense, rallies, techniques and also counterattacks.
@VS0854012 жыл бұрын
There are quite a few choppers in women's table tennis, not only from Korea. Some are "modern defenders" who also attack regularly, others play more traditional defense. Look for Fan Ying and Wu Yang from China, Li Jie from the Netherlands, Li Qian from Poland, Viktoria Pavlovich from Belarus, Irene Ivancan from Germany, Yuka Ishigaki from Japan and others. On the men's side, there are also some very good defenders, including exciting young players such as Yuto Muramatsu from Japan.
@lillbrorsan13 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best tabletennis videos i have seen, really entertaining!
@Dos89514 жыл бұрын
That is some of the best table tennis I've ever seen! Very exciting to watch and both teams were great!
@michalmatas79774 жыл бұрын
Fantastic match. The best of all doubles at all times.
@archkde10 жыл бұрын
0:14 o.O Did that ball just start rolling backwards on the ground before she picked it up??? That's some SERIOUS spin right there...
@mario_gabriel9 жыл бұрын
ArchKDE with that rubbers, who doesn't do that
@harpzbluelion84486 жыл бұрын
ArchKDE Tt
@arm86364 жыл бұрын
@@lynhehe really!?
@jonathanwood88473 жыл бұрын
@@arm8636 no, they don't play on a slope
@TimeattackGD3 ай бұрын
this is really old and theres a chance that people will never read this, but it does confuse me just how little a lot of table tennis watchers know about the way these pips rubbers work. she barely even put any spin onto the ball. 90% of it was the topspin from the opponent. similarly when it comes to players like joo se hyuk, it might look like their massive swing allows them to put more spin onto it, but this isnt actually true at all. the reason they swing this big is to have the ball not fly over the table from the amount of tospin the ball has while still keeping the spin of the opponent. this is different when they are using forehand rubbers since those are normal and dont "inverse" the spin, but players like joo se hyuk arent really putting spin onto the ball with their backhand. theyre doing this motion to conserve the spin of the opponent. if they blocked it and angled their racket downwards instead, the ball would loose a lot of the spin (although still having backspin. you can see a lot of older pip players do this. this "style" is actually quite popular in older germany, and there is even a brand specifically desigining pip rubbers for this style, although its questionable whether that "style" of rubber should be given any attention, as it is basically made to be as frictionless as possible. kinda like using wood without rubber (which works amazingly for chopping believe it or not) i think many people believe there is some magic to pips for some reason). by doing this motion, the ball can continue spinning without that much resistance. this is also a mistake that many new (and even some more experienced) defender players with pips make. they think they need to swing extra hard to add spin to the ball. this is pointless. if the opponent plays a dead ball, the amount of spin you can create with long pips is incredibly small, no matter how hard you swing. long pips defense players dont use pips to create backspin, they use it to keep the topspin of the opponent and turn it into backspin. and making a very strong swing is very useful for that, because it allows to keep the spin that is currently on the ball. this is why attackers will play short balls to defenders with no spin on their backhand, because defenders cannot put backspin on a dead ball with their backhand, so the attacker will be able to attack easier on the next shot. you can see players like ma long doing this constantly. players who keep putting topsin after topspin on backhand will usually loose because it makes it incredibly easy for the defender by feeding into the purpose of the long pips. The perfect demonstration for this is why you can see many defenders having an incredibly different backhand chop technique. the reason for the difference in chop technique is because it doesnt really matter how hard you swing. 90% of the spin comes from the opponent. you could almost argue that a lof of chopping technique is aesthethic
@orionilian7 жыл бұрын
Amazing,elegant defence ! ... And beautiful operator sound!
@VS0854012 жыл бұрын
Correct. By the way, that shot at 3:23 by Ding Ning (the leftie) was a fabulous misdirection - the opponent anticipated the ball to come to her backhand and was completely frozen, which rarely happens at this level.
@VS0854012 жыл бұрын
A doubles team with two defenders is quite rare. When defenders play against each other, they will either play long "pushing" rallies (backspin shots close to the table), or mix up offense and defense. Most top defenders are capable of attacking fairly well with the forehand, although the slower equipment limits the speed of their attacking shots.
@digiver4 жыл бұрын
Wow......... old videos, but very fresh in terms of skills and dedication.... amazing on both sides
@shogrran10 жыл бұрын
Is it just me? Or are Koreans the ministers of defense in table tennis?
@nabilan1115 жыл бұрын
In badminton too Lol
@pizzastock1114 жыл бұрын
Especially Joo Se Hyuk
@rodsaenz397511 жыл бұрын
Excellent demonstration of offensive vs. defensive games!
@Herold00814 жыл бұрын
Kim and Park are the best chopper in the world among the woman line ! Great Highlights !!!
@Ricksonkimura8 жыл бұрын
The Korean girls look like they were personally taught by Joo Se Hyuk himself
@stuartdryer13526 жыл бұрын
Except that they are about the same age he is.
@dabideuh41316 жыл бұрын
Ricksonkimura who is hoo hsyusk
@rohitashwapratapsingh1424 жыл бұрын
Koni Niwa..?
@pizzastock1114 жыл бұрын
@@dabideuh4131 one of the best defence player in ping pong
@charliepaultompodung51538 жыл бұрын
that is one sick chop
@joll1e6 жыл бұрын
The best Women's Doubles Choppers ever
@tt1cheuk6915 жыл бұрын
World's best women double chopper match ever, no others come close
@TheRhonBell13 жыл бұрын
Superb play! I think my neighbors heard me yelling! Thank you so much for uploading this video. I
@RapIsDeadly10 жыл бұрын
I could watch this shit all day....simply amazing!
@forksapien925310 жыл бұрын
through the only internet socket in north korea? :D
@RapIsDeadly10 жыл бұрын
Fork sapien You real funny guy. I only need ONE connection....I only one to have authorization for internets.
@wuwuwubu75534 жыл бұрын
The best game I ever watched.
@adityabayu8911 жыл бұрын
wahaha omg what a hilarious back spin from the korean pair! love it!
@beardown55512 жыл бұрын
It's unreal how good these ladies are.
@Herold00812 жыл бұрын
Kim and Park are amaizing !
@joll1e4 жыл бұрын
How nice, how much enjoyment and entertainment to see this kinda Attack vs Defense Doubles games, Even Though Chinese Attacking pairs win at this but there are so much efforts, so much strategies , so much skills inside to be put on the show. This Era is I believe the old era , the before this 40+ plastic balls that are much heavy , speed and less spin and the Era that Defensive table tennis is showing its existence, showing its strenght and capabilities, but it is now slowly fade away
@footynutdyl15 жыл бұрын
this is absolutely breath taking.
@simonmkleung14 жыл бұрын
They are great teams and great to watching! good skills to the duo!
@GeneralSpecific314 жыл бұрын
I've never seen more solid forehand chops before
@msmuzikera1312 жыл бұрын
great players! the koreans did great even though they fell 2nd place ...good play
@marilyn007monroe11 жыл бұрын
While the defensive style of chopping clearly makes for exciting rallies against an attacking duo who is game to throw down... You will also notice the chinese offensive pair won the match quite handedly despite these amazing points. Nevertheless, I was inspired to learn the art of chopping after watching this video as I'm sure many others were too. Table tennis is always in need of more choppers! Keep the dying art alive, boys and girls!
@fadzransazali19788 жыл бұрын
So beautiful the chop chop
@jhcwang11 жыл бұрын
Fantastic play it is. They are all the best player!
@Trystaticus4 жыл бұрын
great tactics and perfect coordination
@balysuarez14 жыл бұрын
este video es increible , los jugadoras son fantasticos , saben devolber remaches y tienen buen reves .
@VS0854012 жыл бұрын
@MycroDomin: yes, in table tennis players have to alternate (unlike tennis)
@marilyn007monroe11 жыл бұрын
Hence why you see comments such as "Why don't they just slam it back at them?" Their backspin causes the ball to dive almost straight downward IMMEDIATELY upon contacting the paddle. As a result they must LIFT the ball as well as moving it forward, whereas a no spin or topspin ball CAN be slammed back as there is no need to counter the heavy backspin.
@strawhatgunz11 жыл бұрын
great match.. respect to the choppers.. they can win points by top spin as well..
@MusicisMYlife21012 жыл бұрын
i'm amazed at the spin they are able to put on the ball, esp. the koreans. it's freaking crazy.
@sitobroullon52612 жыл бұрын
with the new plastic ball at that time it would have been impossible to watch such a fantastic game
@user-rh3pg5lp3f3 жыл бұрын
Замечательное удовольствие! И нападение, и защита!
@Abiduly112 жыл бұрын
Some of the best rallies ever
@SuperChessboy13 жыл бұрын
The power of chops... I love this kind of defence! It's also very psychological. how we can see here in the alliviation of Guo Yan and Ding Ning after the points...
@nirmitchetwani14 жыл бұрын
ultimate video,as to how calmly a player can plat!!...
@MrJesseLabadlabad12 жыл бұрын
D best doubles game I've seen so far...contrasting styles
@vyseerx4 жыл бұрын
Wow, great talent, very inspiring !!
@user-sn8bu3je7t4 жыл бұрын
素晴らしい試合!!
@yobmas72213 жыл бұрын
koreans have the best breed of choppers and j-pen players today!!!!
@mozart300210 жыл бұрын
Truly beautiful rallies~
@Chooser130l13 жыл бұрын
OMG, that match was AMAZINGGGGGG!
@VS0854012 жыл бұрын
It's not about the speed and all about the spin: slicing the ball produces heavy backspin, which is difficult to attack for the opponents (they have to respond either by lifting the ball with an extreme looping stroke, or by "pushing" the ball back safely and passively). This defensive, "chopping" game is a well-established strategy in table tennis and can still be very successful at the highest level. Many attacking players have a lot of trouble overcoming choppers and lose by making mistakes.
@topgrain11 жыл бұрын
Table Tennis is great exercise.
@Simi_4_AUT14 жыл бұрын
This is unbelievabel o.O this is maybe the best game i have ever seen in my Live o.O Better then the 1VS1 games ^^
@user-px4yt7eu7x8 жыл бұрын
What an insane rally!!
@astroboyzone407110 жыл бұрын
What lovely chops!!!
@sharkl1113 жыл бұрын
I dont know, at the very top level it seems like the supreme consistent offensive person will always get the better of supreme choppers
@FolarTheGreat5 жыл бұрын
I like this video because it also shows the points they lose.
@millionmileflyer13 жыл бұрын
The Chinese (in blue) both look like Korean and the Koreans (in pink) both look like Chinese :-). Watch again. I've watched more than a dozen times. This is table tennis at best. Thanks for sharing.
@CornelDena6712 жыл бұрын
Fantastic. Seams to be like a dance.
@exorc15710 жыл бұрын
Why is this so entertaining? XD
@iyethtaclas25595 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed watching chopper player they are the best for me.ding Ning s always pretty
@AshishChauhan-wf1pu11 жыл бұрын
what a game yr.......both teams were excellent
@jayrperiod13 жыл бұрын
wow, amazing display of reflexes ..i think they're ninjas
@polskagranica14 жыл бұрын
the game is very slowly but veryy fantastic !!
@DilipMuralidaran13 жыл бұрын
God Damn it! This is what you call a game!
@hanspeterpitsch11 жыл бұрын
Didn't even know there were doubles in table tennis. Interesting. I'm just getting back into the sport.
@aldrinjuralbar434112 жыл бұрын
That's Great/ for me they're are both winners !
@hitlernidunga528212 жыл бұрын
Greaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttttttttt rallllly.Hats offf to u.
@LORDFUGESS13 жыл бұрын
child: can i go play ping pong with my friends? Mom: whats the magic word child: CHAAAAAAAAAAAA.......
@MankenGame12 жыл бұрын
The korean really knows how to put that backspin in the ball :O
@xanado7413 жыл бұрын
unbe-friggin-lievable!!! what a game!!!
@jamesissoawesomeful11 жыл бұрын
As a tennis player doubles makes me feel claustrophobic, than I look at table tennis doubles,
@flyingc4pyb4r413 жыл бұрын
table tennis at its most beautiful.... and its done by the Koreans
@iLoveTurtlezRoar11 жыл бұрын
honestly.. this is pretty cool
@zhangxing28538 жыл бұрын
good , good , good beautiful chop
@Braven997513 жыл бұрын
The Blue is very good although you can't deny the fact that they were given a very hard time by the Red to win this match game and with their skills as choppers
@HoangiePongie13 жыл бұрын
Koreans' Defense are soo BEAST!!!
@justin.taylor909111 жыл бұрын
omg the way the girls play is fucking awesome the ball seems like a feather most of the time when they hit it cause it goes so slow and the way they move ughhh soo good
@bigblakboiii11 жыл бұрын
I swear these guys must have... The best vision that is possible
@jacksparrowhammer12 жыл бұрын
well don't know much about table tennis still enjoying the game:)
@sTEALtooth12 жыл бұрын
Amazing. just. Amazing.
@tongsifu11283 жыл бұрын
Just brilliant!
@backspacekk15 жыл бұрын
best woman match i ever seen!!!
@Cema2314 жыл бұрын
fantasTiC
@faezskywalker14 жыл бұрын
the korean maybe lose but they win audience heart...i love this korean chop chop hehehe
@grashew43233 жыл бұрын
Whoa 😮 Incredible !!!
@VS0854012 жыл бұрын
@Ricksonkimura For a doubles with two right-handed players, the backhand serve is convenient because the server can stand well to the right of her partner and get out of the way quickly. Flipping the paddles is easy, many pips players do this not only for the serve but during a rally too.
@jatinverma0710 жыл бұрын
really chop Chop king .... :)
@geoffreydames206111 жыл бұрын
absolutely AMAZING.
@VS0854015 жыл бұрын
A "chopper" is a defensive player who uses backspin shots ("chops") to return the opponent's topspin attacks. It's similar to the "slice" in tennis.
@leexster15 жыл бұрын
da' best female doubles match ever played in history! xD
@mimithecat239 жыл бұрын
UNBELIEVEABLE!!
@AboveWaterful11 жыл бұрын
Well that was awesome.
@VS0854011 жыл бұрын
Kim and Park (the pair in pink) are Korean.
@atencionalcliente16138 жыл бұрын
Exelente demostracion y gran talento mi pregunta es..... porque al final del video pierden las de rojo.... es porque pega en la linea blanca ?
@tabletennisgame362311 жыл бұрын
Super match Great players
@1711ev13 жыл бұрын
Can see why they are so good - no time for social activities !