Which is the exact same thing happening in Japan, Taiwan, Hong kong, Singapore. All the rich and developed nations, the birth rate and marriage rate is LOW. While countries like Phillippines, Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia, they are getting married and having children very often and their population is exploding!!

I'm in a somewhat similar position. I'm Bulgarian and moved to Austria which is fairly close. Even though I kinda struggle financially I can still make long vacations in Bulgaria. The most expensive part is the flight tickets. I'll stay in Bulgaria for almost 8 weeks this summer. Bulgaria is amazing when you don't have to work there and rent there and rely on the healthcare there. Education is hit or miss, the more I learn about Western Europe, Korea, Japan and the US the more I'm surprised to say there actually are significant advantages to Bulgarian education, both 1-12 and university. As for the culture, I have to say I may be a bit biased as I seem more sensitive toward this, but there is ONE thing I am very happy to live away from now. People speak with a lot of confidence in their statement but they don't actually know that well. And they sort of rush you and stress you and insist on what the right way and the wrong way is. It's funny to say this as someone who grew up there and didn't experience anything else but man oh man this really made me struggle. Just the sort of attitude with which people talk about what to do and how to do it, not everyone but many people - it's so stressful. Definitely more chill in Austria. I do have ADHD and I may have some other neurodivergency or mental health issue too, idk, but I really don't vibe with those attitudes. Just really messed up my perception of self and how the world and life works. Which btw is one of the issues of CPTSD as dramatic as that sounds. Without having the repeated traumatic occurances which cause CPTSD I still relate to a lot of the thought patterns and feelings and ways of seeing the world that a person suffering from CPTSD does and that's just crazy. I trace it back to having had a very stressed mom in early-ish childhood and indirectly soaking up toxic and stressed ways of thinking from her BUT ALSO several environments I was in growing up. I was never bullied or abused so that's just crazy to me. But going back on vacation, meeting lots of people at camps, meeting friends while they're too on vacation, in summer, that is all fine and dandy. I love going back in the summer. Sorry this turned so long and sidetrack-y. But maybe someone else relates so I want to post it anyway. 😊

​@@jeffjohnson5053and Islam is gonna penetrate these develop nations in groups 4 the different propaganda if the security dont stay alert haha

may I ask which country did they move to?

Ugh I am Korean American and I remember as soon as I stepped foot in Korea, I was so compared to for not wearing clothes well.

Spot on, well said

No I think they can barely afford themselves much less a child.

24 baby making age

Yeah. Self love. Tell that to yourself when you're 60 and alone.

@@markgilrosales6366 being alone and being lonely aren't the same , people of any age group can feel lonely.

religion in Korea, having Korean students (university) come on the podcast to share their perspective, while they are students, former trainees who failed at debuting and what it's been like for them, or former, not that popular idols, mental health professionals talking about mental health in Korea, or an episode on mental health (I am always curious how accurate or not Kdramas at portraying mental health issues- WAIT, this an excellent idea for a series on your podcast (KDrama vs. Kreality: panelists dating, beauty standards, money, self-esteem, family issues, etc- identifiying similarities and differences with popular kdramas). Hope my ideas turn some wheels in your head.

Nice episode! Interesting and entertaining. I have a topic suggestion. It might be boring and too serious for the podcast tho. Years ago, PD of Form of Therapy did either a video or a podcast and mentioned that-if we'd like to-they could talk about why cannabis consumption is such a taboo in South Korea. They never did a new ep about that topic, but since then I'm interested about the historical and societal background on that, and also about the marijuana crackdown after the 70s, how's people perceive drug consumption nowadays and how SK government deals with alcoholism issues.

Also, may I suggest a collab with Korean Cowboys Podcast? KPC + KCP

Hi David! I have a guest suggestion! His name is Leo Chun (that's his channel name). He's a Korean youtuber but speaks spanish too and has lived in Mexico before and is very familiar with the dating style and culture here in the west. He makes videos about international dating and I believe it would be really cool (deabak hehe) if you could have him in a future episode sharing his insight, and seeing what you and other koreans think about it, share opinions. Great episode! I personally believe this (finding a life partner) has just gotten so complicated not only in Korea but all over the world, although the pressure and style in dating does vary a lot which makes it interesting. I hope to meet you one day. Keep up the amazing work! 🤗

it would be interesting to hear about the explosion of Korean media in the west and how it's affecting life as a Korean, having to navigate your culture being in the limelight, dealing with foreigners being weird about you being Korean or fetishization and all of that. Like, the run-off/side effects of the popularization of Korean media on normal life, I guess.

Which is the exact same thing happening in Japan, Taiwan, Hong kong, Singapore. All the rich and developed nations, the birth rate and marriage rate is LOW. While countries like Phillippines, Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia, they are getting married and having children very often and their population is exploding!!

Trust me. Big difference living in southern Malaysia vs Singapore. Haha. Here we chill AF. Most Singapore will cross the border every weekend 2 escape the toxicity of the country for 1/3.4 of the price. Hahahaha.

So feminism lie to you?

@@Ytpremium5389 What does this mean?

Thank you for using conjunctive adverbs correctly. 👍

@@Ytpremium5389 you do realise many feminists have children, right? anyways, be gone incel

@@Ytpremium5389 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Post Yoga effect🧘🏻‍♀️

When I heard Kelsey’s voice but I had to look closer at my screen to make sure it was her, she was so chill haha

@@KelseytheKorean LOL KELSEY 😭

To say that this indecent behavior and defense of feminism and degeneration is knowing what you "want" shows the total and complete decadence of the world. The West was as traditional as Asia, but why are we now liberal and degenerate, with open prostitution, abortions, divorces, children out of wedlock, free sex with no strings attached? all this was implanted by organized political groups, think tanks, universities, non-governmental organizations and other crap, to completely destroy the West, which was Christian and conservative.

Some would call it societal pressure, others would call it societal genocide. Seems like people aren’t able to understand or empathize with both positions, but one is worse than the other. Not conforming to societal pressures might mean your quality of life suffers a bit for the greater good of society. Societal genocide means that the top 1% of a nation creates a Neo-feudal state that is ran by an authoritarian that will drop most people quality of living and create a new hierarchy that is similar to china’s hierarchy in terms of freedom. There’s a reason why feminism doesn’t exist in China, they’re a neo-feudal state. If a nation state or government feels like it crossed the rubicon and there’s no more rational solution to solve their large institutional crisis in this case, birth rate and family formation, they will enact irrational policies, and everyone will suffer.

You are destroying your daughter.

❤❤❤

There is a lot of pressure being married to a Korean for sure.

@Sodium Syndicate That's your opinion, and you certainly is entitled to it. I didn't have my daughter for her to live her life for me. She walks in her own skin and has her own thoughts, wishes, wants, and desires. Many of us Westerners are about individuality to some degree, and I am not apologetic about it. Just as my daughter respects me, I have to do the same in showing her respect. Of course, some of the decisions that she makes, I don't always agree with, but it's her life, so she has to live with the consequences of those decisions but as her mother,I'm always going to be there to support her and cheer her on. I'm not my daughter's oversear,put on this earth to control her, I'm her parent, here to guide, support, encourage and give her tools to live by. Marriage is not for everybody, and neither is being a parent. All I can to you@SodiumSyndicate is if you are a parent or when you become a parent, you have an opportunity to make that child into a thoughtful human being, not control their every moment and decision. How then do they grow and learn if we as parents are making most of the critical decision for them. Life is about experiences, learning, and growing. My daughters life is her own. When I leave this earth, she won't die for me or vice versa, so it's up to her to live the best life possible.

Your daughter chose to give her child a one parent home by choice ? So the child will never know what its like to have a father is it ? Perhaps the cheering of single parent homes is the reason why america is filled with single mother homes and according to the prison stats in the usa , most prisoners come from single Mother homes , not single parent but specifically single mother homes . If the father is not in childs life as a result of his death , my apologies , other than that , willingly being a single parent should not be cheered because its denying a child the love , protection and guidance from the other parent . Its rare that children that come from single parent homes grow up not feeling the absence . How many bfs did the child not witness the mother having? Single parents tend to expose their kids to things that married parents do not . Ones child should not see parents rotating partners yearly or see parents having flings .

😂🤣 right!!

personality types are BS, most psychology is BS

@@RR-et6zp I used to swear by personality tests. Now, I hate them because they just foster preconceived notions about one another.

@@subterranean327 the scientific method shows that its bs

​@RR Most legit psychology tests are not fun or easy to share. They generally tell you things you don't like. MBTI is mostly bullshit and I'm disappointed it's so popular. The five-factor inventory is incredibly boring but accurate and reliable.

Probably took a sedative before going on the show😂

but im glad, she was really well spoken and articulate now

Yes, I did not know it was the same Kelsey I watch on YT.

I’m surprised she didn’t wear her Rolex on the show ….a fake one at least.

She's on medications, that's why.

To say that this indecent behavior and defense of feminism and degeneration is knowing what you "want" shows the total and complete decadence of the world. The West was as traditional as Asia, but why are we now liberal and degenerate, with open prostitution, abortions, divorces, children out of wedlock, free sex with no strings attached? all this was implanted by organized political groups, think tanks, universities, non-governmental organizations and other crap, to completely destroy the West, which was Christian and conservative.

I think grandparents do not know how much it hurts their grandchild's marriage prospects when they perpetuate these rigid rules.

Not the same.😂 "Asian" is not a monolith.

​@@la381 u know india comes under Asia right?!

Very well said Jasmine.

@@endisnear306Yes, Indians are Asians. However, customs are not the same all over Asia, hence, it cannot be treated as a monolith. The difficulties that Koreans face sounds constrictive for me, a Filipina who now lives in the US.

@@Starcraftghost india is very diverse, the whole North East has the typical "Asian" Custom. The indians u met in the USA are mainly those who might be central and South Indian.

We dont mind providing for our family with resources if she takes care of it in other ways, and yeah food is like love in a plate. She already wants someone better than her in every metric though, taller, stronger, higher socioeconomically etc, get real. + if she preserved her value , we'll build up our value. If she does the housework then we'll pay for everything no a problem. I think laziness is the only thing that isn't wanted. If we both work then ok cool she doesnt have to make food but we each pay for our half then. However I would argue women want to be provided for and dont want to pay half so.. we'll see where society goes.

What is the MyersBriggs test

@@wuncieadams1352 It is a personality test originally designed for the workplace. It has 8 "results" in 4 categories. The first category (letter) for example is "Extrovert" E or "Introvert" I... The problem is that most people are Ambiverts and land somewhere in between or change based on the situation... And that "somewhere inbetween" is true for all four categories! So how accurate can it be?! for some reason Korean people rely heavily on a person's test result for hiring and DATING! Koreans in the media are often identifying themselves with their MBTI - like an astrological sign! If you google it, you can learn a lot about it.

​​@@RR-et6zp Lmfaooooo wtf

​@@wuncieadams1352A personality test and categorization scheme. Not terribly precise but the four traits it measures does have some correlation to the five or six characteristics modeled in the actual science of psychology.

In Scandinavian countries it is not quite like that. The mother is assured full wage for approximately 6 months after giving birth and would then often take another 6 months funded by private insurance, which most people have.. Parental leave laws have even changed recently , so 3 months are now specifically for the partner, meaning that if the partner does not take these 3 months, they are wasted. This means that it has become normal for men to have 3 months of parental leave alone with the child. It makes the burden on companies more equal whether they have female or male employees, which in turn should make pay more equal. And it makes the men more used to looking after the kid and doing house chores (and respect their spouse when they find out being a housewife is not like having nothing to do). I have very high hopes for how this might influence gender equality in future generations in Denmark. ❤

@@tanjakragelund3380 that's why your nations are largely homogenous and dont allow mass immigration to overload the system🤣

@@tanjakragelund3380 I agree people always blame it is hard to have a baby because lack of support however this influence isn't as great as people mention. Studies show married people on average have two children on average. The actual problem is getting married in the first place. Just not enough people getting married or getting married too late. For example 25 percent of first marriages in Japan is at 50!

@@2DarkHorizon It surely is different getting married in Denmark. First of all, it is not seen as a much. In fact, a lot of people choose to start having kids and then getting married (by choice not accident). Secondly, marriage in Denmark is not like 2 families uniting. They will most likely only see each other at special occasions. In my case, the first time our parents met was at the wedding. And I did not get any obligations towards his family after the marriage. Of course, I would often visit them together with my husband, but they would remain his responsibility (or perhaps not even that) - never mine. It is not something new. It was the same for my parents (and I am 51 y. o.).

@@tanjakragelund3380 Denmark is interesting by what you said people having kids before marriage. It isn't that accepted in asian countries. Anyway I would need some statistics to confirm the extent of it. However the start to everything is dating or just man and woman meeting up for a partner. If that requirement can't be meet easily problems will start. I made another comment earlier that in a survey in Japan 40percent of men between 20 and 30 never had a date in their life. So basically no dating experience the chances of marriage drop by a lot.

That's contributing to the high suicide rate in Korea. What sort of "studying" is that? I doubt even Einstein studied that much. The work load and brain stretch is beyond a healthy comprehension.

Same

Which ones? Nigerians are obsessed with marriage and having children. Never will have a negative birth rate. So which negatives exactly?

I'm in north africa (Tunisia) like literally, this 100% how it is here too hhh

@@nadiaaouadi4266 I bet. It is crazy how the Asian culture is so similar to that of Africa. Even when Asians talk about having "tiger moms" that brag about their children's IQ - I can easily relate. We are more similar than we differ.

@@thoughtprocess97 that how a lot of cultures are

@Thought Process I agree, I am French/Congolese and relate a lot with other African cultures even from the North like Tunisia or Morocco although I am not from a Muslim countries. And I feel the same with Korean India or even Vitnamese cultures. Which are cultures I happened to know better thanks to friends.

I think most married Japanese rather raise their kid outside their country hahahaha At least in my neighbourhood of Kuala Lumpur 9 /10 apartment neighbours of mine are Japanese family who father is corporate mogul and mother is fulltime mother with their kids study in KL Japanese school So yeah if the Japanese wanna mingle better moved out of Japan

Not really. The single women of Japan over 35+ in Japan tend to import men from overseas. I have lived in Japan and do not think it is single friendly

Thank you for sharing your perspective and Japanese culture!

We dont mind providing for our family with resources if she takes care of it in other ways, and yeah food is like love in a plate. She already wants someone better than her in every metric though, taller, stronger, higher socioeconomically etc, get real. + if she preserved her value , we'll build up our value. If she does the housework then we'll pay for everything no a problem. I think laziness is the only thing that isn't wanted. If we both work then ok cool she doesnt have to make food but we each pay for our half then. However I would argue women want to be provided for and dont want to pay half so.. we'll see where society goes.

well tbh you were the only one out of all 3 that was normal and respectful/respectable...rest 2 are tr@sh ACC. From all of my experience, I can say where they coming from...and there is a word for these types of women here in western and that is delusional, who are going to live their whole life at home full of cats.

In our culture we have parents and grandparents and family members taking care of the children if women go to work but most of the time women can stay home with the children. Women stay home and take care of the babies. They should let women stay home taking care of the children. Men should go out to work and make money.

​​@@user-ti5um5ek1t Wish it was like that in the states. Plus we have to pay a ton to have a baby. Insurance covers somethings, but if you have complications during or after pregnancy it gets pricey for some people.

@@user-ti5um5ek1t the thing is many women want to work for themselves and build their own careers and interests outside of childrearing

@@user-ti5um5ek1tomen don’t want to do that though? You put all that work into getting your dream job and have to give it up forever? Who wants to do that.And also womenhave never just stayed at home they’ve always worked Because for most of history people were too poor worldwide to afford one parent not bringing in an income

difference between western and eastern marriages. In east your basically marrying the whole family.

why the need to be so judgemental? every culture is different. just because you find it unacceptable, does not mean you are better. you coming here with "better than you" attitude, i wish people were more understanding and less judgemental.

@@edgehodl4832 most foreigners cherrypick and also make generalizations of korean men, discarding actual statistics and evidence that claim foreign societies require much more understanding than their twitter and tiktok-given knowledge, of how the default thought of all men here being misogynist, perverts and controlling-minded beings, which is just plain out stupid. if such were to be the arguments, in 2023 there are just as much if not more things to criticize how women here are so demanding of men in dating culture as well as marriage and work-life, but if there is a factor that is infact true is that due to confuscionism, the korean society- similar to many east asian countries- historically had wives basically having to indoctrinate themselves to the traditions and housework of the husband's family, including doing worshiping for the dead. with the introduction to secularism here in korea (more than 60% increase of the youth now being secular in comparison to the previous pre-1980s born generation), as well as various liberal culture influence, such depths of tradition has been on depletion since the 2000s which the numbers back it up.

It's just a cultural difference. Why do you even watch shows centered on Korean culture if you're just going to be "gobsmacked?" It's a completely different culture, Western culture has its aspects that would "gobsmack" a person from the East as well. Your comment clearly has this xenophobic undertone to it, like wtf do you mean "as a human?" Do you think Asian ppl don't know how to act "as a human?"

@@dathunderman4 probably just cultural shock?

We dont mind providing for our family with resources if she takes care of it in other ways, and yeah food is like love in a plate. She already wants someone better than her in every metric though, taller, stronger, higher socioeconomically etc, get real. + if she preserved her value , we'll build up our value. If she does the housework then we'll pay for everything no a problem. I think laziness is the only thing that isn't wanted. If we both work then ok cool she doesnt have to make food but we each pay for our half then. However I would argue women want to be provided for and dont want to pay half so.. we'll see where society goes.

Yes!

Are you married?

Exactly. Using it to judge people is counterintuitive.

We dont mind providing for our family with resources if she takes care of it in other ways, and yeah food is like love in a plate. She already wants someone better than her in every metric though, taller, stronger, higher socioeconomically etc, get real. + if she preserved her value , we'll build up our value. If she does the housework then we'll pay for everything no a problem. I think laziness is the only thing that isn't wanted. If we both work then ok cool she doesnt have to make food but we each pay for our half then. However I would argue women want to be provided for and dont want to pay half so.. we'll see where society goes.

​@RR dude you just keep spamming that comment in threads that are completely unrelated to the original comment. Move on.

We dont mind providing for our family with resources if she takes care of it in other ways, and yeah food is like love in a plate. She already wants someone better than her in every metric though, taller, stronger, higher socioeconomically etc, get real. + if she preserved her value , we'll build up our value. If she does the housework then we'll pay for everything no a problem. I think laziness is the only thing that isn't wanted. If we both work then ok cool she doesnt have to make food but we each pay for our half then. However I would argue women want to be provided for and dont want to pay half so.. we'll see where society goes.

is that taking into consideration of the same position at same job or average in general? because average in general is not accurate because different types of jobs pay more that women prefer not to do etc.

He said they're "almost" earning equally

In the 60s korean gender equity was eve wise yet they had x6 times more children. Ur explanation is BS. Koreans just don't wanna have kids and spend that money on themselves instead period!

ty for that

🙌🙌🙌

Thank you for sharing your culture and insights

she said she is ESFP not?

Myers-Briggs is pseudoscience. It has no scientific or predictive capabilities.

personality types are BS, most psychology is BS

I appreciate that!

Absolutely

We dont mind providing for our family with resources if she takes care of it in other ways, and yeah food is like love in a plate. She already wants someone better than her in every metric though, taller, stronger, higher socioeconomically etc, get real. + if she preserved her value , we'll build up our value. If she does the housework then we'll pay for everything no a problem. I think laziness is the only thing that isn't wanted. If we both work then ok cool she doesnt have to make food but we each pay for our half then. However I would argue women want to be provided for and dont want to pay half so.. we'll see where society goes.

It's good seeing another Black woman check out this show! This is a interesting set of topics and I found it out via the Shorts clip.

Preach! The world is backward now. Not much we can do.

Since materialism dominates the mindset 🙁

America is the richest country by far, and is also one of the most miserable. 75% of young Americans say they have a mental illness and 25% have suicidal thoughts. Ironically, young people aren't even having much sex anymore -- it's been shown the younger generations have considerably less sex than previous generations at the same age, yet they lecture the world about "relationships" and "living your own life". Coping and seething, that's what it is.

So many great Women died alone of old age and they are fine with that🙏🙏Last that i remembered was former HK actress🤝🤝Lastly Michelle Yeoh is the pride of hot mama with no need of kids at all😇😇

A woman needs to learn supporting herself, husband can die first or marriage can end up with divorce.

@@nonisidharta1545 yes Queen 😂

Singlehood no need to worry about others so much. More free time and less stress.❤🎉, there are pros and cons.

With 42 cats hoping one of thèm start licking your p 😽

this! This right here is a very wholesome couple, and I hope me and my own lover might be like this someday. Maybe not the stereotypical, but just appreciating and balancing our lives honestly. Either, my heart is swelling with this comment!

I did cooking n cleaning n housework. For 20 + 20yrs. Little appreciation. Luckily l also manage financial stuff too. So u can guess how Good n Efficient n Financially capable l got for few decades. That or no MIL monsters in laws, really noticed. That's Life Fun(d)$ ,‼️🥳😂😂

They're the problem they're talking about though. Self centered. Me me me me. They'll learn one day on their deathbed with no children around, no husband, no grandchildren to say goodbye to. But atleast they have their own money and they had a GREAT FUN career, right?!

The girls are pretty due to their makeup just like in kdrama.

Its easy for younger women like Anna and Kelsey to say they doesn't want this and that when they have choices as evident in their discussions. Eventually women do hit that wall and when guys don't start hitting on them, the reality hits. For Christine she understands that the wall is coming close and she knows to prioritize the men that she dates and cannot be as picky. Women and Men are inversely proportional when it comes to attractiveness from 20s to 40s. Men have a longer timeline than women and priorities change for older men.