extra villager sight will be helpfull at tower rush too. normaly if enemy spot a villager he knows trush but with extra sight you can prevent that

SOTL: onager is the best unit Me: *onager accidentaly kill my army*

I had kinda hoped the Korean unique unit would be the Hwacha. It is a multiple rocket launch device with rocket arrows. I would think in game it would function somewhat similar to an onager. With a much higher range, higher movement speed and more projectiles fired however with a lower rate of fire, less damage, less splash and less HP. I think it would have the largest range of any unit as that was historically the Hwacha's best feature, it could shoot further than any archer and unlike cannonballs it did actually have a hint of accuracy at long range. It would be sort of like having 20 longbowmen shooting all at once however with a much slower reload. I think it would likely be something like 18 range and maybe a unique tech to push it all the way to 21.

I was waiting so much for the video. Thanks for the efforts you put forth in your videos, Spirit :)

I'll say it a million times. SOTL has put so much passion and love into these videos. He's just incredible. These vids are so special. Just INCREDIBLE

FIRST! I shall take this opportunity to thank you spirit, it is your videos which inspired me to get a steam account and buy the game again. Thanks for making me rediscover my childhood fascination!

Fav civ! Woohoo! Tried them after taking your quiz! I fell in love with siege onagers ever since ❤

Okay, having viewed this a few times (I like rewatching videos I find enjoyable), I think you should look at the Turtle Ship as something that isn't quite a Galleon replacement, but more as a Fire Ship killer. Turtle Ships can tank Fire Ships for a good while, and their attack is going to blow the Fire Ships apart. You want to use them sorta like how you use Pikes to guard Archers; don't chase the enemy with Turtle Ships (they're too slow for that), but use them as a defensive wall so that Fire Ships that try and attack will get massacred. When pushing with Turtle Ships, think of them like Teutonic Knights. Have them advance with Galleons behind them, and your opponent will keep getting pushed back because they don't want to engage those Turtle Ships head-on. Even if your Turtle Ships die, they will soak up a ton of enemy damage. The only race I would not recommend using Turtle Ships against is the Spanish; Cannon Galleons can blast right through Turtle Ships, and Spanish Cannons are undodgeable by Turtle Ships.

Thanks for all the effort you put in your videos, really explicit. keep it up

Nice vid, i try to wacth every one that comes out. Keep up the good work :D

I love Korans. Ty for upload and you have the BEST Intro on KZfaq :D

The only civilization where stone is more valuable than gold.

Loved the Modus Tollens reference. Nice detail! Great video!

Thank you so much @Spirit Of The Law for this video i requested

One thing I'd like to add with comboing war wagons + onagers is the fact you can protect your onagers very well with them as you can literally use the wagons as a mobile wall. Supplementing them with some bombardiers to protect the wagons vs melee units (you obviously want to limit your onagers firing at your wagons as much as you humanly can) and you get a pretty damn scary setup.

Love your videos,appreciate your work for them!

I love the Ontage. You should definitely make an extended version (Y) Love your channel, Spirit! Keep it up!

Keep up the good work. I always though of the korean vill-sight-bonus as an additional tower-rush-buff, since u put ur vills in the enemy base when tower-rush them - so that bonus gives u some additional scouting (like town-watch when tower-rushing with byzantines).

I've been waiting for the Koreans :D Such a unique civ

Wow. I don't really follow this channel, but I got the urge for the first time this morning to check out the benefits of building turtle ships. Good timing mate. :D

A great video as always. While I don't play the Koreans often, I am a huge fan of the Turtle Ship. It's a very good Fire Ship counter (And considering their terrible speed/missing demo ship I imagine that was the idea) and I also feel they're HUGELY superior to demo ships, a unit I loathe to use. I hate the one-time use of them. It gives me this feeling of tension whenever I use them, thinking that if I use them at one point, I'd need them more later and regret wasting them. With Turtle Ships, you can get so much more bang for your buck, and I think that (along with what you listed) really stands out for them. I also enjoyed your argument about such strong, expensive units being good in that they don't take up too much of your population limit. It's something I've never heard before, and as somebody who loves his trash (Go Magyars) it's something I'm going to seriously need to consider in the future.

Thank you so much for this overview ! :D

I would watch the shit out of a 10 minute, normal speed "Ontage". Make it happen Spirit! Love your videos man.

Thanks a lot for this video, I really wanted to see this one.

Thanks for the overview... Really enjoy watching your videos...

Very thorough. Nice video :)

Koreans definitely my favourite civ. I definitely play differently than him though. I think their power is in that they can counter any units with a pure army of ranged, which means you can sweep without taking any damage. And even if there was an issue they have access to all of the trash units. The advantage of turtle ships is you dont have to worry about counters apart from speed, So just mix them into a bunch of fast fires and this becomes less of an issue. Getting a single villager to build towers/castles behind enemy lines is actually not often difficult to do, and even if you dont towers are the most versatile way to stop early rushes (he really doesnt like their early game). Their biggest weakness is that they have no speed, if you have an issue in one place and your army is in another its going to be difficult or at least slow to have a response so you have to keep an extra eye on your blind spots.

Excellent video Spirit!

keep up the great work, thanks for the review Spirit of the Law :)

You finally did it. Thank you so much :D .

18:45 that's a very good point Spirit, never thought of that before.

The villagers extra sigh range is also extremely useful in nomad maps, specially at the start when placing your tc and exploring the shoreline for a good dock placement. I feel this is a lot more important to mention than say seeing a wolf just a little bit earlier to look for a hill.

Dude! I love the Onagers too!!! :D Nice vids!

Amazing! thank you for this.

I find it hard to believe you haven't done a video on onagers. ps - great work as usual

Hey Spirit, with the turtle ship I always viewed it as more defensive. Mainly because while its slower, if you are defending you really get to pick the engagements more readily. Along with amazing towers on the shore line I never view the Koreans as an attacking navy but it is by far one of the best defensive navies in the game

Yay!!! Thanks, Dude! My soul can rest in peace now.

Nice overview like always keep it up

Love your videos as always

Nicely done!

Only 2 civs left to go! Good job Spirit!

Aaaaaaaah I made it up on the big screen! Thanks for doing this civ overview! You're videos are interesting and fun to watch!

Onagers? more like "Ownagers"

I can't figure out why they didn't give the Koreans the Singijeon as a unit or the Hwacha to the Chinese. It would have been great.

You have probably the greatest intro ever.

Spirit, you are just awesome.

Another great video!!! keep it up!!!

Havent played the game in years but still made popcorn for this

just wanted to thank you for your effort, its a pleasure. (only a thumb up seemed a bit to less to me) On a sidenote, you might have mentioned the impact of the Vill line of sight bonus on nomad, but on the other hand koreans probably aren't seen that often on that map.

I come back now and again to have a great time replaying that there "Ontage"!

Hey Spirit! Can we get a longer "Ontage"? :) I'd like to just have like, a satisfying minute of massive amounts of deaths.

Good, deep and subtle analysis.

You got me hooked on mass onagers, And on weird forwards so that my opponent is unaware of mass onagers until he's already attacking me and leaves his base undefended. Spirit, you gave me stealth onagers.

after watching this, I'd really like to see a commented video with you playing the Koreans :-)

thanks for this. now I know how to handle onagers instead on of OWNAGE-ring my units

The turtle ships will show their greatest strengths in bottleneck areas of the water where the galleons will have a greatly reduced DPS because there is a small front line and the many of them are in the back not attacking.

Yess a new overviewww :)

Yay! My comment got featured! xD Great vid my friend. I hope the next review is about Chinese, or Aztec, or the Malians. Still, great content you have there.

I think Koreans may be my new favorite. I love playing defense

Yay, new video :)

YAY KOREAN SHOWCASE thank you so much for this, I liked them anyway but with the expansions they really are perfect for walling up.

I love doing tower rush with Koreans. So fun!

Well Spirit, since you've finally given me my second cameo in the video, and done the Koreans; now let's see the Portuguese, FIETORIA FTW!

Little bit OT I love these little facts about AOE2 HD that you reveal in each of your videos and it would be very cool if you could do some numbers with Homeworld Remastered (another great classic)

I constantly find myself rewatching your videos, even though I don't have AoE2 anymore.

Yaaay! New vid!

im learning more and more :D this is better than school

I thought +3 LoS for villager is also a great bonus on nomad. Anyway, as a korean, I approve this civ overview. :3

This is some good content 10/10

Im hyped! i dont know why but im Hyped.

Buen trabajo hombre

Noice advice on the war wagon counters. Skirms got chewed, but Celtic pikes stabbed em up pretty good thanks to their fast walk

Bro I must say ur intro 👍👍

well job! Could you make a rushing guide? Your videos are awsome and you show them simply i always go teutons and turtle up even tho i play for years! A early castle rush guide would be terrific

The villager line of sight really helps in nomad maps. You can scout easily and find better spots to settle way faster.

YAY A VIDEO

16:48 Actually, you gave the Celts an A+ :P

Here's something you didn't point out in regards to the Korean Villager LOS bonus: it's super-helpful on Nomad maps. Having that extra line of sight makes it MUCH easier to find good TC locations or to spot enemy TCs.

Nice video, I would like to mention another aspect of Turtle Ships bc it seemes to me like you didn't point it out entirely. You compared unit statistics which are not expressive, since water warfare works through hidden bonus damage vs ship class (that's why ships do little damage against land units) and hidden anti-defense vs ship-attack-bonus (esp. Fire Ships, but Turtle Ships even more). That explains your result of 3-to-1 ratio in comparison with Galleons. Plus they have no minimum range of 3 like Cannon Galleons (edit: and ofc higher projectile speed, in case someone got irritated by different video speeds), another benefit in huge fleet chaos. As always, enjoyed your video! Cheers :-)

Love the ontage!

I recommend the Aztecs for your next civ overview!

One thing I think could be added about the turtle ships is that they are a castle age unit and on water maps most people have a pretty sizable feudal fleet before going up. So either you would have to transition, which correct me if im wrong, but would cost more resources and would be hard to do early - mid game. Or you would have to concede early water control in which case building up a turtle fleet will be almost impossible without allies.

damn that mass galley vs fewer turtle ships reminds me so much about Admiral Yi

Oh gawd the ontage though! I don't know why, but the music with the ontage makes me laugh so much.

Iove the onager ontage 🔥🔥🔥

Dat beautiful modus tollens... what a great vid

THE ONTAGE RETURNS!!!

Jeez, Spirit of the Law, you NEED to make a dedicated, full Ontage video. Please. I will donate the amount of money you like for that to come true.

Unique tech: Roof Koreans OP town center defense

1:58 Now that's what I calla Scotch-Korean bonus!

korean viliger line of sight is really helpful in no tc start maps such as nomad

WE NEED MOAR ONTAGE. THANK YOU. :)

I fucking love your overviews!

Im playing aoe right now as the koreans and decided to check on youtube for no reason and this was the first video that popped up

You should do a video talking about the siege tower! If I'm not mistaken you haven't even mentioned it offhandedly before, I'm really curious to see what you think of it.

Would be cool to see a video about the strength of units in teams compared vs. smaller groups. Like what the most efficient # of units is per group.

Just an Idea about sinergy from the apparently not so useful +3 LOS villager: it encourages early, early tower rush as it gives forward agents more strategic info. Neat tool to have only for a tower civ.

i like ur vids

Updates as of DE Update 40874: Construction speed bonus for fortifications removed Military units (except siege) cost -20% wood (unique units have increased cost to compensate)

I know Chinese will be next, but I'd like the Malians. Great vid btw.!