Super impressive VST; the old Legacy Collection with the M1/WAVESTATION/Polysix etc has been around well over 15 years, so to finally add a Triton to the pack is outstanding. $399 is a bargain! Also props to KORG for not doing the greedy cloud stuff that Roland is doing; I want to buy and OWN software.

Romance layers always has a place in my heart ❤️❤️❤️

I always prefer the hardware, but the space limit is a problem here. Thanks for the comparison!

Korg (& Roland) reproductions of old sample based workstations are not "imitations" : they use the same sample banks and consequently have exactly the same sound, period.The only differences due to the higher quality of actual 24bit sound cards converters, which render a more aseptic, a bit colder sound, nothing we cannot adjust with little "warmth" post-processing. Scientific comparision as always, thanks.

Lovely comparison, thank you. I bought the Triton VST yesterday. Just beginning to get to grips with it. Hugely impressed with what Korg could do 25+ years ago. The VST is impressive and excellent value.

Looks like Korg did their due diligence recreating the Triton. I'm pretty iffy about software recreations of analog synths but for something like a PCM based workstation this makes a lot of sense. Thanks for taking the time to do this Woody.

I made my first beat on a Triton in 99. My best friend at the time had worked for 3 years to save up to buy it and had it in his room. One of the first bedroom studios i saw lol. Always has a special place in heart.

I bought my Triton studio in about 2004, and still have it! Still used in my studio, and I even have the CD recorder installed!!! Great video, although I do use plugins, I believe its still better to buy the hard ware...if you've got the room!

They both honestly sound fantastic, and any difference in the sound is very minimal, they got it spot on. And besides, when played in isolation or in a mix, no one will be able to tell if it was the software or hardware, the sound is simply legit Korg Triton either way! What's more important is how you make use of the instrument.

I'm usually one to say "the hardware sounds better or warmer", but this time is different. It seems that they are identical in my ears. I would even say that some of the sounds seem a little more defined in the software. It's as if the software is using more voices to do the same sounds, and there is more definition because of it. This may be one of the best software emulations/recreations yet.

I hope their next VST would be the re-creation of the Korg trinity, that thing is legit a godly Phoenix that rose from the ashes of a project that didn’t make it through. I really wish they would do that.

I HOPE THEIR NEXT VST WOULD BE A RECREATION OF THE KORG O1WFD OR THE DSS1 FROM THE 80'S

Triton is my favorite board of all time. I tried the software and that thing is next level!

They are spot on similar soundwise.

Hardware Triton also runs software code on it's DSPs to generate sound... DSPs and original code can be emulated 100% to run on x64 CPU. If emulation is done thoroughly (ideal scenario), the only audiable difference is character of D/A converter on audio interface that differ from manufacturer to manufacturer and whole lot more differ to Triton original D/A. Not to mention wow placebo effect when you touch the real thing. Cheers!

Very similar. The hardware sounded a bit more refined, but I think some EQ work could bring things back into balance.

It's hard to tell unless you are listening with good monitors or headphones. Hardware always sounds better because of the A/D converters. It gives the sound a wider and fuller sound. Hard to explain. But I have lots of hardware gear and it always sounds better. But I love software for the ease and automation. With software, you usually always need to make it fit in the mix with EQ and such.

Ok, I waited the entire video before commenting. The Actual hardware instrument sounds much more pleasant to listen to, whereas the VST was clear(er) then the hardware. I prefer the tone of the hardware instrument... especially when you did the LA piano preset. The VST one had high end where the hardware didn't or did but filtered it better. You could see the difference in tone via the waveforms. 💯 Woody! Constructive feedback: It was confusing to me without your direction to know what which version was playing hardware or virtual. I think that a title in the corner would have helped. When you said screen capture, I was thinking about the VST interface.

To install it that vst , your computer Windows OS has to be 64 bit compared to the Triton hardware. That Triton was the synth to get before Fantom X came out 8 years later. I have to find me a perfect condition Karma or M3 . This video is great , it show how many companies could take the software side but I heard the Kronos and Yamaha Montage is amazing hardware synth. The Price of the older synth are getting higher ever year. I have always said if you computer goes down your entire virtual setup goes. But with the hardware , I have yet to see my Fantom X crash. anyways I love your videos. I've watched your old collection of keyboard videos many times and will watch it today. The outside videos is my favorite because to keep those keys white you need some sunlight.

Finally it's here :)

Great video, Woody! I have a deep connection to the Triton and this is a treat!

In my humble opinion.. software will always be "a homage to.." and hardware, however dated, is the go to.

Thanks, much closer than the Wavestation one. Guess I'll stick to the VST in this case.

I've a Triton Le and also the vst, for me Triton even makes most modern keyboards blush. For example my Triton Le is way better than my Yamaha Modx 88 in sounds, functions (sequencer , aftertouch -something Modx doesn't have, and Yamaha workflow is just a fucking mess)

Oohhhhh yeahhhh, Hardware VS Software 💖💖💖💖 Lezzz goo

I do love the sound of the Triton- even that cheesy Oran Jones bit.

Hardware version sounds better, VST isn't far of but in a track with compression, eq boosts, limiting etc all those small differences will become more evident. That's why a good source sound is so important. Thanks for the video!

Maybe other people are playing this on better sound systems, but to me they both sound close to identical. If you don't watch the screen, you often can't even tell when it switches from one to the other. That doesn't surprise me. Making a VST model of an analog synth is hard, but a digital synth is basically just software running on dedicated hardware. Take the same samples and software, move it to a PC, and you'd expect a similar result. There may be minor differences in things like DACs, but not so you'd really care. It does seem like this VST is a bit quirky and missing some features for the price. I especially agree that the MOSS board should have been included, as that's very expensive now in hardware.

I can predict the replies already - just go see any "VST vs. hardware shootout" video out there. HW Sounds better! No SW sounds better! No they sound the same! The software has no soul!! etc. I think I'm beyond all that these days - does it matter? My criteria are does it sound good and is it usable? Does it help me make (arguably) better music? There's always the nostalgia factor, and the "I paid HOW much for that board and now it's just a plugin?"... I'm as much a gearhead as anyone and I got over 60 synths now (cause I got the room and an understanding spouse) so I'm qualified to say: Go make some music!! (Personal non-cop out opinion - they are different because the output stages are different and probably some of the math results in processing filters have different round-offs and precision limits due to different hardware. If Korg did the code correctly that should be very close indeed.)

Hardware sounds better IMHO - especially evident on my A7X's ( on OG sounds rounder and a smidge warmer).

I just wish korg would make some way of loading third party sounds made for the hardware, if they did I'd be sold.

The Triton is the sound of my late teens and I love it (but couldn't afford it at the time). I also prefer hardware but the VST sounds pretty good too and I don't have space for (another) keyboard!!!

Sounds fantastic. A great comparison video.

Wow, plug sound pretty good! But since the Triton was a sample based synth, it would’ve been pretty easy for Korg to turn it into a VST. However, in my opinion the best thing about the Triton is the MOSS card option (aka half a Korg Z1). I can’t see why Korg couldn’t add this at some later stage, physical modelling should also be easy enough for them to implement in a VST. I would buy it for sure IF they add MOSS to the mix.

I bought it when korg released it.. i m waiting for a korg z1 vst with lots of sounds.... may be i m dreaming...

The CC linked to each knob may change on each patch/combis. If you to the PROG section, select a patch, press the menu; go to the Page 1 (Edit-Basic), the "Controller"' tab you willl see the current assignement for the knobs. For example with the default Triton Classic factory settings, Prog A-000 "Noisy Stabber", the knobs are set this way: Kb 1 - CC73, Kb 2 - CC75, Kb 3 - CC70, Kb 4 - CC21 Same Triton Classic, A-113 "Sweeping EP", Kb 1 - CC17, Kb 2 - CC19, Kb 3 - CC20, Kb 4 - CC21 You will also see here that the ribbon, switch and joystick can also be changed there. If the classic have the exact same screen as the Extreme, on the main screen you should also see in PROG what the knobs are doing. If they are not set to Attack, Decay, Sustain and KMod4; they will have different CCs.

Triton is epic! Best hardware synth/workstation ever! Best VST instrument ever! The new ones don't even have a sequencer like the Triton. It is not a workstation that has realistic acoustic sounds like pianos and violins like the new workstations but in electronic sounds it beats any of the new workstations on the current market. Triton is a dream. I can't believe it exists for software either. Unmissable!

15:10 - I can hear the 'Woody on the Beat' Beat Tag Over this...

Some patches sounds close/ same, but I was surprised with that 'Gods Bathtub', almost like something is missing there (last comparison). But interesting is, that this problems have all VST versions of HW synths, despite of that they are pure digital, maybe some HW imperfection, make them sound unique. :-)

Is it perfect? No. But I think having all those endless banks of sounds on the VST version, and it being cheaper to get than getting a real one, the VST wouldn't be too bad of a choice. Of course, I wouldn't say no to owning the original hardware version, but personally I'm happy having it ready to go in my computer :).

I have owned the Triton with MOSS since it was first introduced. I think the MOSS sounds a bit better, but I can't hear any real difference in the hardware vs VST. I think the device you record with and the plugins you use when mastering will make a bigger difference than the VST vs the real deal. Both are digital. Watching this video makes me want to go play my hardware synth while simultaneously making me want to list it on Ebay.

the only issue I find is that ,if you are using a third party controller that has a ribbon, you cant control the ribbon parameter on the vst .soundwise they are identical love you KORG

Great video - this was a lot of work for sure. Surprised there are some noteable differences between these two. BTW I see what you did there 8:07

The VST sounds pretty good, but I see some differences in the waveforms, still they sound the same to me.

Many comfuse VST with SAMPLE but this is a VST that has oscillators so like the TRITON motherboard on my computer it is not sampled like a photo. From Brazil

I certainly couldn't pick any difference between the hardware and the VST.

I bought a used Triton LE for $150 seven years ago. I'm curious as how the additional FX available in the plugin compares, but I'll hold out for ipad version. It's amazing how keyboard makers seen to fall a similar path. Sounds go from pricey flagship to low cost model to plugin, then finally free or ipad app. Over the course of years though. Makes Roland's current strategy a bit unique. The same basic presets from the $2500-1000 flagship gear are already available as a plugin without having to wait years for the synth engine to trickle down.

Are you planning on covering MOSS sounds in the future? I believe it is what makes the hardware Triton still relavant to this day. The sound it can create are so unique, I've been wondering why Korg has never revisited the idea since then. I for one am keeping my Triton for this very reason!

4:32 Chaka Khan - Aint nobody, plays it better(than Woody)

8:06 good lord! those CC's are really really naughty, aren't they?

Only place the physical differences matter ~ Live stage. Using a computer or actual synth starts can become a huge thing in terms of physical connections, reliability, tactile hands on stuff - The miniscule sound differences are soon forgotten....

I'd say they did a pretty good with the VST. Nice comparison! Could you tell me the name of the first patch you used? Maybe I've missed it.

Synth companies should also make usb DACs for their VSTs, based on hardware like physical synths for complete immersive experience. Regular DACs used in computer are trying to make soundstage for movies, music, conversation etc. at same time. They are not designed for "music production" by any means, and software emulation lacks warmth & punch which comes from sound coming through electronic components specially laid down for the synths. But still these VSTs let everyone enjoy, who for any reason we're not able to lay hands in the past.

thanks for this video Woody. Was the Triton keyboard connected via analogue into your sound card?

The VST sounds less meaty to me, but it’s a more than adequate substitute. One thing I would like is a USB device with just the joystick, ribbon, and assignable knobs.

I think that the proper way to do this kind of comparison is to play the same program or combi and put A and B and ask to think which one is the hardware Triton and then put the right answer: I've watched this kind of test on KZfaq on GForce OB-8 and most of the time none can figure out who is who.

The VST Triton doesn't sample or even give you the opportunity to import your own samples. I wish Korg will allow that in a future update.

Not sure if the Triton Extreme had a different sound/character compared to Triton but the preset Monolothic Motion sounded very different to the VST when I fired up the hardware a few days ago. And the valve option was off. Also a little disappointed that Korg showed the Extreme in their video 'ad' but the Extreme presets are missing unless under a different preset name. Which is why I've not upgraded yet and sticking with demo for time being. Here's hoping an update will add an Extreme option to select. A bit like the choice of the Odyssey.

Which os the name of the song at 10,42 ? Im going crazy to remember..

I initially thought this is one of the videos I saw 3 years ago😀

with all the hardware that the VST comes with -it's more bang for the buck- i still have a triton

4:33 Man, now I know we're in trouble...

does the vst have extra presets that cant be made on the hardware(triton extreme) or do they have the exact same presets and pcm samples? thanks in advance!

For everyone that complains (or subjectively likes the HW over the SW) can one just not slap on some compressor or eq to help bring out some of it's missing perceived depth or warmth?

How do you record a short simple song on the Korg Triton?

CAN YOU DO A VIDEO ON THE TRINITY PLUS PLEASE?

The Triton is a beast, but I dunno, I think the MODX has killed all other synths for me, hardware or software. I love it.

When you are using the knobs on the hardware can these be used to control the VST?

I own the original Korg Triton and I was thinking of selling it and getting the vst. Do you think I would really be missing anything?

Your videos are the reason why I chose to pull the trigger on the Korg Triton Collection...but I never received my serial # & the link to the download. I submitted a support ticket and now I am waiting in a cold sweat....wondering if I'll ever receive a reply? If it requires something like 24 hours for a Korg representative to process my product,then why doesn't Korg give me a time frame?? What makes me really nervous, is Korg does not refund software purchases....

Hey, I setup this VST in Reaper and when I'm tryng to get it to play a midi track imported from a differernt editor, it doesn't make a sound (although the keys in the UI are being pressed). However, when I manually input notes in Reaper's own midi editor, Triton plays them. Does anyone one how to solve this?

I have triton Le version, it was a great keyboard... i really want krome maybe kronos, but i prefer sound source from midi controller it more sound source and more fun than triton... and i already try and play this VST, its a good soft syntg

Hi and thanks. So I have the tritan work station 2002 and it seems im having some problems with sounds. Is there a way to reset the hardware or reinstall??

I don't think they're that close tone wise, and it's not down to EQ differences . The keyboard sounds more open, airy and nuanced, more 3D like and you can hear the layers of the tone, the VST is closed in and much more flat sounding with the frequencies bunched up sounding shrill . OK I'm being slightly dramatic but this is where every damn VST clone always fails for me, not at all in the basic sound of the patch (that's exact / spot on !) it's the body of the sound that's always wrong ! I love software BTW, Omnisphere, Hive etc are amazing but these clones never sound as good. Thanks for the demo Woody and sorry to be negative :(

Most hardware synths nowadays are specialized computers anyway.

What was the brilliant track at 14.:38? It's quite the groove.

Hello Woody, Thank you for the good video. I’ve got a question about the software. I’m running it in the MACOS catalina (10.15) In standalone mode, the menu buttonin the software doesn’t work for me. I’ve tried reinstalling it, but it doesn’t seems to be of any help. Please can you help me?

TIP: I bought a cheap Korg Micro-X, build quallity is not so great but if you want to play around with the triton sounds...not bad at all..

I wish we could hear the software without the L2 limiter. That changes the sound. :-( Were they both going through the L2? Ugh.

Software version it’s maybe very useful for midi recording sessions

Are you going to keep the HW now that you have the vst?

KORG TRITON Hardware = much BETTER!!!

I've done the same here with the triton LE and studio and flagship board and I hear the same on your demo, It's ok-ish on some patches but on most the low end is just bigger and wider and I just prefer the keyboard, However if I only have the plugin id be very impressed with it

I wonder if they null. Can you do a null test?

The software really struggles in the low end.

I have the triton extreme and this so called plugin defiantly doesn't have all the korg triton sounds, as there are countless sounds from my triton extreme that are not in the plugin

Will it import sysex from a hardware Triton?

Hardware is way more define and bassyyy

Both are romplers. I prefer the plugin because it’s more clean.

There was no phantom of tine...

I have the plugin witch I like a lot, but I also have the Korg M3 and the sound is better than the Triton plugin.

KORG : TRITON :Hardeware ; Software ; Hoje : instruments Musicais é : igual computador Tem Programas : Ritmos : Sons !!! Digitais do que você Quer ??? Tudo Digitais ???? Os Gráficos !!! ; Parameter : Etc !!! .Gostei !!!! 👍🏻😄👍🏻😊👍🏻😄👏👏👏👏👏👏

250 Euros? Nah dude...

I just can't believe how screwed up a simple simple simple test by over complicating the hell out of it. A simple note for note chord for chord comparison that's it. I left confused as to what the goal was I had to reread the title

It's just too close to have that big ass thing

Have you tried any of the Korg emulators from Full Bucket Music? www.fullbucket.de

Bass and treble frequencies are missing from VST. I vote for HW. Also the VST sounds boring.

I’ll watch this later, perhaps at High Noon?

Stop switching

Romance layers always has a place in my heart ❤️❤️❤️