Can't even spell his dang name right but want to act like HIMSELF is all important about an opinion or point of view. I don't need him to validate my opinion. That's his opinion. Good for him. The problem is the term 'Paved the way' means something different to you than it does to some others. Nobody is wrong or right. Numbers don't mean shit to anybody who believes paving the way is about something else. So there's no point in all of this idiotic hostility and weird ass gloating about this unserious topic. Why is it so important for you guys to have everyone else believe what you believe? Why is it so important for you guys to have everybody else think what you think? You do you. You want to believe BTS Paved the way? Have at it. Believe that until all your little hearts burst with pride. I on the other hand do not believe paving the way has anything to do with numbers and ya know what? The world is still spinning isn't it? So no use in throwing tantrums because people don't agree with you. You're not going to convince anybody to think like you so just stop with the hostility when you come across a comment you don't agree with just because some people don't hold BTS in the same glorious light as you do Edited - Not saying you were hostile here. I'm talking in terms of this whole hot mess of a comment section by mostly BTS fans

@@EXOluv98 yet only u are on armys posts arguing ... there is plenty of posts hyping and praising other idols yet all of u focused on armys posts .. we see who is desperate to proof who is who ...

@@JkLina13 Hmmm I must be scared then 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@EXOluv98 hypocrites don't care u are one of them , u better give ur flops 2 streams cuz as numbers and statistics showing eggso got only korean fans only them doing something while yall international doing nothing . That's why they only have streams on local charts and nothing outside of their homeland . I pity yall who fighting on KZfaq but doing nothing to support.

@@thetabright37 I am fine don't worry .

Good no one asked

@@doughuapluskpop2697 stay pressed 🤣

​@@doughuapluskpop2697 lol cry

@@dalandandan387 cry in what? Nobody knows those flops

When they flop???​@@doughuapluskpop2697

Yeah i truly believe they really ike exo too much, in their patreon they have a lot of exo reaction.

@Erisss1517 Really? Oh wow, I should join but I'm already paying for so many streaming apps lmao

Right? I've noticed that too lol It really is very cute

i know right that's so cute frfr

in SK and partly Japan

Exactly. They actually got me into Kpop back in 2010

They’re seniors deserving of respect ofc

@@thetabright37 Ummm. So who's bigger than them ? . Don't tell me no Beatles cuz I won't take u seriously 😑 . 1 there's a difference between group and a band , 2 even if we compared them BTS are still bigger, we're from north Africa my grandma knows BTS but she never knew who the Beatles were and she was a big pop stan . BTS are global while the Beatles were known in Europe and America only

@@thetabright37 I said "group" not solo artist. As an artist overall yes it's MJ but I said "group"

​@@thetabright37 nah, under 10.

Truth hurts. Some people won’t recognize this. The same thing happened with The Beatles. They were big time mocked and clowned, but now people respect them.

@@hannah-ti6qo Who's under 10 in this situation? . The one who can't tell the difference between a group and a solo artist or the one stating simple facts or the one denying simple facts and calling those who state it immature 10 years old just because that fact does not comply with what their delusional head believes in ?

You're so Right. You can understand the power of the name "bulletproof boy scout" when you're dumb and don't think deep Who ever make fun of this name is just 🙄

@@user-ic1dk4us2b not to mention fandom name ARMY lmao just to us become real ARMY with millions of ppl from all over the world 💜

☠️ chill, it’s their opinion

🗑️♻️

What do numbers have to do with paving the way? What did BTS do that wasn't already happening or headed that way to begin with in kpop? By 2017 when BTS first started getting really noticed on a global scale, Kpop was already becoming more and more popular globally. BTS just happened to be at the right place at the right time when the climate for a kpop group to strike it bigger than their predecessors did in the west. That's not taking anything away from BTS but their fanbase and social media played a huge part and that's a testament to their catchy music and devoted even sometimes to a toxic degree, fandom. I am interested in why some of you feel like BTS are superior because of numbers though when groups before and after them also make very good music. Not many groups have as large as a fanbase willing to mass stream, mass vote and mass buy like BTS Army do. I think some of you do forget that a lot of these numbers you keep throwing around are due to a large amount of their fandom mass streaming, buying, etc etc and if you're going to brag about numbers then that also needs to be acknowledged. Don't even bother with "all fandoms do it!!!" Because yes while that is true, again, the need for Army to always need BTS to be first, they will mass do whatever they need to do, to an unhealthy degree and other fandoms aren't willing to go to those lengths

@@FoodiePlanet716 cuz unlike bts fandom we do have a life and i won't spend all my ye and money on ppl who doesn't even know me lmao thank you for being one of the few down to earth kpop Stan out there

@@FoodiePlanet716mass this mass that babe the fandom is THE MASS. There are millions of people.

@@FoodiePlanet716kpop became popular BECAUSE of BTS in 2017. Majority of global kpop fans started stanning BTS and then discovered other groups. Not to mention countless idols have said it themselves. Idk why it triggers you so much to say tgat BTS paved the way for kpop.

@thetabright37 Comparing to the older ones who existed way back in the days . They're definitely the biggest, there's also a difference between group and band

@thetabright37 Bruh !, when did exo get in the conversation? Who said anything about their vocals ? They're excellent good for them . Don't change the topic ig

@thetabright37exo flopped sadly

Meh

Wait, why is it jealousy? We aren't these groups. They're groups made up of talented strangers to us. What they accomplish or don't accomplish has got nada to do with us and our lives so tell me again why non BTS fans would feel jealousy over something that has nothing to do with us personally? That doesn't even make sense 😄 Yes yes, BTS's achievements make me so darn mad! I mean my life isn't affected either way but damn it I just want to be angry about it! 😠😂 Gotta love ARMY and their silliness lol

​@@MoscufoGoofou just proved that op comment is true 💀

@PR_YA HUH???? LMFAOOO You mean my sarcastic ass comment about being mad proved their point? Oh Lord you guys need Jesus 😂

@@MoscufoGoofo they didn't directly commented u, but u still got triggered and jump on it, right. Here u writing "what they accomplished has nothing to do with your life" But it do matter for u, cuz your fav ain't at top. So... 😏

Fr , they're mostly EXOls . I can't imagine how vile they were to younger BTS back in 2014 2013 😰

@@thetabright37 I also looked for several sources, among them the list of the best-selling products in history and the tour the planet #4 was the fastest seller, so I don't know what you're talking about, I'll just leave it there if you want to believe it or No. It's your business

​@@thetabright37the 1:47 it was another concert, EXO Planet #4 - The ElyXion at Gocheok Sky Dome sold out (66,000 tickets) in 0.2 seconds, there is no official information about that, several media said that Exo had broken their own record but they never said how long. The 0.2 second data comes from several users who were waiting to buy the ticket and said that at that time it had already run out and they could not buy them. Officially there is no information about the sales time.

@@thetabright37 yeah of couse,obviously an official page is needed, the Koreans were crazy, I don't think they invented it because I remember they were writing it in real time. But yes there is no official information about that.

@@thetabright37 ohh I'm so sorry, I hope you recover. take care and rest

I agree.

Slay

Glad it was helpful!

It’s going to be the BIGGEST in history of korean music industry

That's the truth 🐻🐯

Amen🙏💜

You're the best!

yess

unmm this isn’t factual, you just took a wild guess. Top four is first Michael Jackson, Beyoncé, Whitney Houston, then Madonna.

@@tailynngarland482 Actually Taylor swift is now coming for number 1 and BTS for number 2 , this is how much awards they earned in a year and a half!

@@user-qd5gr8ql2w …okay but right now they aren’t.

@@user-qd5gr8ql2w That is a matter of what kind of awards are even aknowledged for this list. The one on "Best Lagos" from the beginning of this year aknowledges BTS at 10 but does not give any numbers. It holds also a negative bias and no father exlanation like they mention "American Awards" but not BTS winning "Artist of the Year". A List from a year before that from "Team Boma" places BTS at 4 with 786 awards. Which would place them higher on the other list. "shout me Celeb" has a list from 2024 that places BTS at 4 (also claims they are from China - the article itself names South Korea) with 486+ awards (Beyoncé with 542+, Rihanna 673+ and Michael Jackson 834+). No idea where and if the Forbes numbers are real because it reads like a bad copy/not quiet accurate "feesherslive" placed them on 4 also with 486 awards at the beginning of 2023. It's tricky and I think people are messing with numbers.

I agree. Many fans think LSM adopted Japan's trainee system but he was actually inspired by Motown who had a training system albeit less intense than SM's. He even named his company SMtown based on the name Motown. He's shady af but has a great eye for talent and great ear for music. I also appreciate him giving credit where credit is due and admit that kpop was built on black music which so many fans do not recognize or acknowledge. EXO is definitely the group that embodies his love for R&B and vocal R&B groups especially once people hear their B-sides

*Agree!*

Not really Psy's success and Psy even aknowledged it. Quiet a few people thought he was Chinese and nost people didn't care. I'm a bit sad with what happened with LSM last year but I also aknowledge how he cheated the system - the Dispatch article was fascinating. But it is BTS who "paved the way" for Idol music globally. bby gang mag: - how BTS paved the way boracity magazine - BTS paved the way, why is so hard to admit? - why most Army don't like Kpop (has interesting numbers) - why the music industry is terrified of BTS (something to think about) (she also has 2 vids on trends BTS has created)

psy is so iconic and a legend but no one knew that his music was kpop sorry

so wrong and so loud. especially towards the end like go ask any non kpop stan who exo or bigbang is and it’ll be 🦗🦗🦗

BTS but yes ❤

Glad you enjoyed it!

Exactly

Nope. They are niche and would have stayed niche. And as pointed out the music elements already existed in Seo Taiji and first gen. Concepts? Are good way to turn the global audience away with their prejudice about "artificial" artists - especially since not even in SK they get aknooledged as artists often. It's alway fun to blame the internet. Internet gives a plattform but you also have to offer it something worth investing it.

@@ruthfischer7615 How the heck do you know what would've happened? Omg aren't you tired of the b.s. from which you speak yet? Damn

@@FoodiePlanet716 If that is your whole argument I can only write: "look in the mirror"

@ruthfischer7615 What does that even mean? When did I ever try to predict the future of something or aay something that wasn't true? Holy damn, I am so tired of you guys. You think and say whatever ridiculous thing you want to because I'm sick of talking to you guys and then met with some idiotic reply. You're on mute, talk to yourself

Seo Taiji and DSP are first... which does not mean that SM didn't have an enourmous impact on "Idol music" The development would have been different. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Welcome!!

I thought Sechkies also performed in North Korea since they were one of the most popular. I remember seeing ko jiyong clip of them performing in North Korea.

@@bertram5806 they may have but I don't remember honestly!

K-pop fandoms ALWAYS win in fair (!) voting competitions against non-K-pop fanfoms - it does not matter who is against whom

@@ruthfischer7615 not always true..these days kpop companies are doing hella payola and even have the backing of some foreign labels.

@@bertram5806 payola has nothing to do with fan voting lmao

Lies lies and more lies but considering the source, ain't no surprise there. Perhaps you should branch outside and find out the actual truth instead of repeating this gross false narrative and the fact that you felt comfortable saying all of this is so disappointing because it means you're just believing whatever it is people feed you and you're not taking the time to actually find out what's true and what's not. I can't even be angry because this is just sad. Sad that BTS fans either know this is a lie and spreading this narrative anyway or think it's actually true and the ones who actually know the truth are staying quiet and I honestly don't know what's worse. I truly feel bad for you that your experience in something that should be fun has you spreading lies because of a fandom that has brainwashed people into believing this. Not denying some EXO-ls are toxic and blame BTS for stuff but what you're doing is disgusting. EXO has never been anything but respectful and kind to the members of BTS. They were all friendly with each other before toxicity became the norm between fandoms. If you have a beef with EXO fans that's one thing but don't drag EXO into your stupid and immature fan war

they’ve been like this since the beginning of time, worst fandom ever idc

@@JudiChewiesource ? Go check bts hardships 2013 2021. The person collected all evidence and recipients about how bts were humiliated by kpop community since day 1 .

@@JkLina13 they still hide it and it is absolutely disgusting how they try and turn everyone against us when it's them. No kpop group or fandom can say what we did to them without lying cause it's usually in retaliation

​@@JkLina13As if that wasn't made to paint a narrative. Get out of here

What does that even mean? BTS fans can't have it both ways. You can't continue to vote and want them to win awards based in the kpop industry and win Music shows for kpop groups and then say ignorant shit like they're bigger than kpop. They're a Korean group in the kpop industry... they're a kpop group period. Just because they have global recognition does not change that they're still a Korean group from the kpop industry. Wtf are you talking about? Lol

You'll only see them in lists that have MJ and the beatles and Taylor swift that's how big they are

@@LesEXO2012womp womp they're bigger than the industry

Lol someone is mad​@@LesEXO2012

@@LesEXO2012 when I said they are not part of kpop? I said they are BIGGER THAN KPOP, which is a fact.

Its bts actually. Love yourself her was the first album in 16 years to sell 1m copies

No lol

​@@teenieweeniemini4297 xoxo in 2013 is the first kpop album to sell 1m copies after 12 years

@@teenieweeniemini4297 Exo was the first, but they didn't want considered for the record because it contained the chinese songs

Wow!

We did some Deaannn on our patreon!

@@nspreactsOMDSSSSSS 😭😭😭😭😭 bouta buy it cuz aint NO WAYY

they paved the way for kpops huge explosion of popularity in the west, the numbers and stats dont lie if you deny this your delusional

⁠@@isolde04and thats the reason why op said theyre the biggest. but paving the way like literally? of course no. while your faves were nugu, a lot of groups made an impact globally too thus “paving the way”

@@ahhnnewhat were those groups who made impact globally?

⁠@@ahhnnewho completed with western artists can you please name some? 😂

BTS PAVED THE WAY PERIOD

They can't these comments would call them nobodies as say bts did more as babies

@@pinkiepiereincarnate22912nd gen brought K-pop into the western industry but it was just a niche interest, K-pop got global recognition because of bts. Wonder girls, 2ne1, big bang, blackpink and bts were probably the most successful groups that carried kpop to global success

@@pinkiepiereincarnate2291 that's definitely true

​​@@pinkiepiereincarnate2291y'all r so jealous of BTS success, and snsd did more than 2ne1 so why mention them? BP is ygs gg

@@Jing_Ling_Uncles except a closer look at numbers shows fascinating differences in the how. Boracity magazine has an interesting video essay on numbers among other things: "why most Army don't like Kpop" As the numbers are wildly different.

nope only bts

blackpink hasn't even won an american music award, what paving are you talking about? Jisoo accepted in an interview that the road was already paved and that they took the opportunity.

Correct me if I'm wrong... but no SM artist ever managed to land a song on the HOT100, correct?

company stans are so weird

@@sanadoIlunless it’s hybe 💯

except it looks like they silently disbanded...

Yes let's make kpop cringier 😐