Should I make a part 2?

People, criticism is NOT A SAME THING as hate!

"they sound good" bro how can your standard be this low? 💀💀

I feel like kpop is just about visuals now..i miss the old kpop:(

Netizens spoke facts for this one 💀.

it’s always funny to me when they can “sing” during their performances but can’t sing standing doing nothing during their encores 😟

I see both sides of the argument. As one said in the comments, it's an encore stage where they are supposed to loosen up and sing for their win. On the other hand, it's kinda embarrassing to see them sing off key ngl.

jimin?!? Bro has definitely not watched all the other live performances 💀

“why is he like that” LMFAOAOAO

Let's be real. These people are literal musicians, and while their job is also to look pretty and dance well, it's ridiculous for artists to sing their own song off-key. If it's just once or twice then who cares, but a lot of idols REPEATEDLY sing off-key or with an unstable voice. If they aren't capable of singing their own song well, then I think it's up to the agencies to train them better or choose someone more capable/well-rounded.

SM can’t relate

Kpop Stans never adding BTS in any positive videos and only adding them in negative ones shows how rigged they are. Bro if you really think that Jimin is a "bad vocalist" then, I'm sorry, but you're a newbie who's only here for the "kpop trend". Only judging his singing abilities based on one bad encore makes me sick. Meanwhile my man be hitting high notes higher than so many people's fave's fame (it's not about any idols in person. If you don't get sarcasm it's not my problem) and he was literally given all the difficult high notes even in his debut era and he absolutely nailed it. Just another day of kpop Stans trying to bring BTS down

There are many video compilations here of JM hitting all his high notes live & still there are ignorant jobless people here who are ready to criticise🙄

vocal doesnt matter in kpop rn 💀

hybe need vocal training

"Why is he like that" 💀💀💀

Almost 11 years of being in the industry, people are dragging him for 1 encore. He has only a few unstable stages. Funny how no one, absolutely no one ever claimed his vocals were bad until their hiatus

It can happen sometimes, but it is not normal if it happens all the time.

I could never be an idol, it would just take one moment like this and I'd never show my face in public again

BRO STOP DEFENDING ARTISTS WHEN THEY CLEARLY LACK IN VOCALS. IT IS LEGIT THEIR JOB

Honestly the jimin one is not true . True the like crazy encore was a little off key but my man literally kills it in other performances .You people need to here his love letter to armys just his voice tone is high for a man i think thats why these netizens cringe like wtf!? Only in this i think he needed more confidence thats all . And who saind shuhua was only a visual thats just too much 😔

: thank you for 10k likes

I agree that criticism is good for idols , it helps them to improve themselves but netizens are wayyy tooo harsh 😭

Coming from a classically trained Musician here, Most of the idols mentioned here aren't typically 'Bad Singers' they might have the vocal quality but they are lacking in technique.All of these idols fully relay on nasal voice which might be unstable and requires a lot of breath control as well.What should be done is to get vocal training.They help you to channel you're chest voice and head voice (which is what a lot of singers use) and falsettos.Each singer's style is quite unique and versatile to them and they should find the right technique to fuel it Hope this helps anybody who are aspiring singers or just needed a justification for the video Good day :)

Bro Jimin carried whole Kpop for more than 10 years who are u to judge him only by one performance It's really sad that people can't appreciate him for 1000 of amazing performance and can't see how powerful his vocals are😐

These comments would look completely different if this were IVE, Aespa or Blackpink. International stans love to pick and choose which groups are worth having empathy for. Edit: where did I say Aespa couldn't sing? You weirdos love to make stuff up to be mad at, I've said it multiple times in the replies that Aespa is one of the groups that gets shit from kpop stans NO MATTER WHAT. They wouldn't be granted the same protection as the groups mentioned in this video.

It's Mamamoo's line and their lines. In terms of vocals, they are a million miles ahead of everyone else.

Showing us one clip of them doesnt prove youre point at all.

Mostly it’s HYBE female artists 😂😂😂

For people who are defending them : I myself love all the idols listed here, Shuhua is my bias, but this is not the first time this has happened, in many shows these idols had unstable vocals. So stop defending em, ain't gonna take you nowhere

if this had a certain group here the comments would be DRAGGING them through the ground 😭😭

Out of context(kinda) but JYP is supposed to be the best at dancing but the groupsare so good when it comes to live vocals too tbh Twice Itzy Nmixx Straykids slaying encores and live performances

I can't deny they're vocals are mostly shaky or out of tone Not hating By the way criticize and hate are not same: Criticizim is indicating the mistakes of something or someone in a disapproving way and wanting them to improve

The "why is he like that" in Jimin's comment makes me laugh ahshshs

All these people are defending their faves by saying that "IDOLS ARE HUMANS".I wonder where the hell were they when ive,blackpink and aespa used to get hate for similar reasons. No one ever said they were humans

The standards of kpop are so low now.. Idols can't even sing and aren't stable at all

We laughed at their vocals They laughed at our bank account 😢😢

cuz the teenagers who dominate the fandom dont care abt talent they care about how hot their idols are 😭

And that's why the 2nd gen is the golden age. Nobody sings off key in any situation whatsoever even if you put them upside down. Lol.

Nowadays even main vocal of some certain groups are very average like cannot even do simple notes

Bro you can't judge them just because of one performances they are also humans they can sometimes be tired you can check their other performances and calling Jimin worst vocal is crime

I'm happy that Shuhua finally got more lines, but on the other hand I agree that Shuhua still need to improve her vocal skill more 😌

Nervous??? Some of them has been doing this job for 10 years now. What utter bullshit reasoning.

I’m pretty sure people wouldn’t care anyways since most “fans” consider visual over talent. Plus, to be honest the nets were right in some ways, since if an Idol cant even do their job, then yes, but other times, if the choreo is hard and tiring then there should be an exception. I see both sides of the story here, but they still sound pretty good, and I know all idols are improving.

LMAO not y’all trying to defend JIMIN 😭

The armies defending Jimin are just embarrassing 😭✋🏼

Well encore is supposed to celebrate your winning but doesn't mean it's okay to sound off key

Some times idols vocals is good but sometimes their vocals are bad but they still work hard

This was actual criticism, not hate. The fact they were trained to have pretty voices that hit the right note and they still can’t do it is both deemed the fault of the company and the idol.

Does vocal even matter in kpop nowadays💀

I love Jimin but that encore stage was a difficult watch ngl 😂

The guy tho HAHAHAHA

Jimin vocal will always be bad fr yall untill yall see other kpop idols covering his songs or singing his parts in bts songs

Some people like EXO , Mamamoo, BtoB left this chart bruhhh

People should really stop making up excuses for their idols. “oh their humans, their not perfect.” Who said they weren’t?

Best Vocal is in YG & SM 😊

Sakura barely has any lines cause she doesn't want a lot she said it herself

Now that I've been ARMY for a few years, I've started to agree with the one about Jimin more. He gets a lot of vocal praise because he has such a unique sound to his voice, but sometimes it feels like his technique is lacking. Maybe he's more unstable in some parts of his range and not others but I feel like sometimes he sounds like he's straining himself or singing unnecessarily nasally.

ok but sakura ASKED for less lines ☠️

now moka (illit) is added too the list😭

Everyone saying jimin still good, I think they’re totally deaf. I like bts, n their songs. But whwn it comes to jimin parts. I don’t know he sounds like breathless n uncontrol.

You know the worst part??? Jimin wasn't always this bad...he was actually a decent singer around 4-5 years ago. Now look at this mess. This is what happens when you sing with insufficient or unhealthy technique, hybe prioritised "aesthetic/vocal tone" over proper vocal coaching, they keep giving him parts out of his range constantly instead of properly equipping him first. It lead to his vocal chords getting permanently damaged. Now what he needs is to not sing AT ALL, and TAKE REST. Maybe consult a therapist and take care of his throat cuz this can be more dangerous than just "bad singing"....the same shit happens to so many vocalists and not only in kpop. People love to give crap to Rose for singing in a 'fake' voice, but atleast she has somewhat a grasp of her limit, as we can see her vocals haven't been severely damaged even after all these years... I think YG learnt _something_ from park bom(yes, the same thing that's happening to jimin happened to bom first. Pls take notes how NOT to ruin your artists). As BTS is one of my favourite grps, I sincerely hope hybe takes the necessary action cuz the situation can get only worse from here.

im baffled at how multi millionaire companies cant hire a vocal trainer for them?? like where did the training go apart from dancing :/

It's okay if they aren't stable during performances where they dance, but it's much worse when they aren't stable while literally STANDING

Jimin was stable during 2017 idk what is hybe doing now even lisa is more stable than him who is the sub vocalist

If your idol sucks at live singing its ok. Just dont defend them for bein ass at what they have been training to do for years. That counts for any type of proffesion. I am a martial artist, and sometimes i see people training for years and they still suck. The coach teases them and tells them its time to improve a lil, and that actually helps.

Hybe is destroying their Idol's vocal..cant they hire good vocal coach? like literally jimin is 10 year older singer and he is still a non-vocalist...Hybe should hire some of the best vocal coaches form west ...

I've been into kpop for over 10 years and I've lost count over how many times jimin went viral for his awful vocals while his fans defended him by claiming he was sick 😭 like seek a doctor damn

i am a jimin ult bias, my bias of all kpop is jimin and i love him so much but god sometimes he can sound not so good and sometimes he can sound so good

anyone who wants to excuse these idols vocals should watch any of shinee or snsd’s encores or lives. in mrmr by snsd they put effort into the encore like it was their main performance. many idols like sakura have been active for over a decade. don’t forget that an idols job is to sing. it’s not hate, it’s rightful critique. it’s unfortunate the new generation of kpop prioritizes visuals, nonetheless it’s no excuse for your faves bad singing when there’s groups like aespa and fromis_9 that can do both.

It's fun to read fans supporting their idols bad vocals by saying they're best lol

Calling Shuhua “just a visual” it’s a crime

Hybe should keep their nose job money and use them for vocal lessons

as an army i'll be honest... jimin's voice is a hit or miss... sometimes I love Jimin's voice and sometimes I cringe at its instability

They are veteran idols, so the criticism (not hate!) is valid.

In kpop, it doesnt matter if u can sing, u just gotta look good at this point💀💀

To tell the truth, Shuhua is not good at singing. But that comment about her was very rude

As an army: Jimins voice is getting damaged. You can clearly hear the difference of a few years ago to now and HYBE needs to do something to help him. Maybe his voice is damaged on the long run which will affect his future career

The editing slays harder than anything 😭

I don't know then what company sees in the idol for recruiting as they are idols, their basic talent should be singing or atleast they should be taught to how to sing. Shallow base of kpop companies like this is frustrating. Earning money but not channelling on where it's needed, especially Hybe.

HELP NON KPOP FANS SHOULDN'T FIND THIS😭😭

Sakura herself said that people have criticized her voice and she prefers if she gets less lines. Saw a video yesterday of her being interviewed about something Edit: Don’t compare people with many more years of experience to junior idols

Proud of SM Entertainment for debuting groups with a great vocal line as always 💅

Hateful, manipulative and phony supposedly "Kpop" channels like tbis that always hate for reasons of prejudiced against Korean pop music and constantly generalize stereotype about Korean singers, actors, athletes, etc for reasons of jealousy and hate should be banned .

Cough *Le sserafim* cough Cough *illit* cough Except chaewon and 2 other illit members 🔥

People in this comment section have seriously a problem. Guys, you are all confusing constructive criticism with hate. You can say Jimin couldn't sing in that clip, I'm an army and I can admit that too, you can say he should improve, you can say your ears hurted while listening to that clip, but saying things like: "His voice is horrible" or "He sucks" are straight up hate. There are live performances where his voice is good, not fantastic, cause he is not great, but he sounds good. They are humans too, they can make mistakes and be average in something. Imagine doing a math excercise, making a mistake, and your teacher telling you: "You have been studying math since you were six, you suck in this subject"

How can you people still defend your idols even if they cant sing . Actually its their job to sing but nowadays kpop is all about visuals so i'm not surprised🙂

all of lessafarim actually💀😭..

And the fact that all SM idols has the best vocals of kpop. ❤

Stop protecting your fav by saying they were having fun, they were nervous, they were tired. Anyone can clearly say that they have bad vocals.

I'm happy knowing that exo will never appear in a video like this

2nd gen Kpop artist are Pure Live singing Legends with powerful and amazing vocals. After that generation, most groups are manufactured, their voice filtered and when they do have to sing LIVE , you can hear that their vocals are👎🏻. Now, AI are even used to help them.

We can be critical and have tact. I feel some people here are masking hate as critique and I'm sorry, but it shows.

"is she tone deaf" HDIEJDIWJSJSIS

Me waiting to get sunghooned

i’m sorry i cant defend them 😭

Sakura is good but hybe ruined it

Please stop criticize someone like that Sakura herself is really bothered by her vocals and asks producers not to give her much lines in a song please give her a safe space in which she improves herself Please it's a request It might degrade someone's mental health vigorously

So i love all groups and i have been an army for a long time but i totally agree to this because can we normalize not knowing or not liking everything about our fav groups??

Why are u guys hating it can be that a idols once break and sound like that but not always and jimin he sings bad u gotta be kidding me bro u cant even sing and giving hate to these huge singers shame on you