Live stream I found of both players playing this game! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aciaZ7Kn396RhJ8.htmlsi=tKVLEn6kHCsEKgzf

Kramnik should get reported and blocked for excessive use of cheater denouncing.

Kramnik isn't playing Titled Tuesday, he's playing Entitled Tuesday

The narcissism. "If I cannot think of a good move and my opponent does, it means he is cheating" The whole point of chess is to outthink your opponent.

Cheaters use engines to inflate their egos while Kramnik uses the report system to keep his ego inflated. Really they have a lot in common.

I can picture kramnik in a dark room with different photos and newspaper clippings tacked to the wall with all kinds of crazy strings connecting everything together. Screaming “there is no Pepe Silvia!”

Kramnik has become a sad old man.

I didn't see this move so the only way it can be seen is by an engine. Flawless logic

No more joking around now, Kramnik needs to be shunned and rejected publicly by all top players and organisations. He is a disgrace to the game and himself. Goodbye Kramnik.

I think this is what the young folk call washed??

It’s like in his mind he’s still the world champion and it’s impossible for him to lose. Everyone must be cheating. While it’s entertaining to watch him freak out. I can’t imagine being a young player that just beat the former WC just to be called a cheater because he can’t accept reality.

"OK, the classic procedure" 😂😂😂

I honestly believe that Kramnik, even if he seems calm and is obviously strong at chess, has some kind of mental illness.

Lose, block, report, look at accuracy, repeat

I have followed this kid since he was 8 yrs old, Kramnik should be ashamed of himself.

Old man Kramnik wasn't raised with computers, so of course he wouldn't consider computer-like moves like the younger generation does. Tykhon has a KZfaq channel where he streams himself doing puzzles and he's lightning quick with even the most difficult computer-like problems.

After reporting both players, kamnik went back outside to continue yelling at the clouds.

Kramnik needs to face some sort of disciplinary action for all this at this point. It's ridiculous

I'm around 2100 rated and d4 was the first move I thought of. I might have rejected it, but then at this time control I'd probably have thought it was active and aggressive and played it anyway.

so according to Vlad, no human could possibly push a pawn to distract a queen? wow. Let's DO THE PROCEDURE!

i think the pawn move was good but certainlu not out of this world. The trap is one of seceral known as the Noahs Ark trap. Thanks james.

Kramnik is so paranoid...wtf

Thanks for pointing this out. I agree it's ridiculous, and it's bad for chess.

That was a bit different video - and a different tone than usual; and I love it. Love how you expressed yourself, felt not only your dissaproval of Kramnik's behaviour, but in this dissaproval - a deep love for chess and it's community.

I agree completely. Kramnik had insufficient “evidence” before, but at least one could claim that he was misinterpreting the data. Statistics is highly unintuitive, so intuitive people often get it wrong. But “He played a move I would never think about in a million years” isn’t any kind of evidence, even from a world champion. It’s pure hubris to assume that you can tell a high level player is cheating, even from a whole game. It requires a concrete pattern of evidence to make a case like that.

Kramnik's attitude is tender like slow cooked chicken borscht.

It seems like Kramnik has a very hard time dealing with the evolution of chess. I feel like he accuses people of cheating because he doesn't want to accept that the game has passed him by online in the rapid/speed formats. Even Hikaru says he feels old compared to the kids now who have played online all life.

Thank you. This needed to be done, and couldn't have chosen a better case.

Great game to see reviewed, watching the slow exploit of the dual weakness of f2 and the potential queen/king fork. And an impressive use of the word portmanteau thrown in too.

I watched that stream live. He had a terrible time on each board, and accused almost every opponent he played of cheating. Even though he always tries to cover his arse by saying "It's not an accusation".

I mean come ON ! I've played lots of brilliant moves before, most of them I never even knew were brilliant until the post match review. This is the behaviour of someone that's realising the game is leaving him behind.

Funny how the pressure on the white kings position mounts up, when he allows all black pieces to go from being a defender to sole attacker on the board. That happens to me as a beginner in random parrings against 2000s ten times a day. Solely because I don't see what's about to happend/not taking their presence seriously enough before it's to late. Resulting in them having unlimited amount of tries to find a way in.

Good on you for speaking up about this. I imagine Kramnik's opponent has studied many of Kramnik's games and probably looks up to him as a chess player. A bit sad to think one of his (maybe) heroes has so easily accused him of cheating. Kramnik should be celebrating such a move. It is certainly NOT an unthinkable move, because even my low rated mind was calculating that move before he played it. I didn't see that sequence, of course, but I did see the move. Perhaps Kramnik is too dogmatic with his move selection process and doesn't think creatively enough anymore.

It’s sad that he’s just become a meme now. Great vid James, justified rant, part of me does wonder whether he IS going to do damage or just end up becoming the mad old cat lady of chess.

At his current pace of blocking everyone who's better than him, Kramnick will soon be playing only sub-2000 players. Maybe then his self-esteem will get a boost.

These playing platforms should have a rule that you're not allowed to make a public accusation. Kramnik has a right to report, but he makes a point to purposely do it on stream. In fact, I think that is the main reason he is streaming--not to play chess but to make public accusations of cheating.

I've been watching Peshka since he was VERY young, probably like 7 or 8 years old. That kid was a monster even at that young age, doesn't shock me at all to see him find a move like this. He is insane at puzzles, this is absolutely a move he would consider.

Once you see d4 the variations are all quick and short. And you find it by asking the question - how do I make the discovery on the f3 knight work? Wouldn't it be nice if I could play knight to d5 hitting the queen at the same time?

I saw it live it was ridiculous. Especially since this isn’t even the correct move order and black had a

Oh. I see Kramnik is talking about pokemon. Not chess. I understand now why he hates cheaters

If you play Kramnik, you already have it in your head that he is going to call you a cheater if you win. It’s extremely distracting for anyone who sees his name pop up as their opponent. Kramnik needs to be banned immediately and sued for defamation. This shit has to stop. I have less and less respect for the chess world with this guy is still allowed to compete. In any other sport, you would have been banned by now or sued for defamation, and any legitimate organization would not touch you

Kramnik's toxicity is that of an amateur. If he wants to be taken seriously as a troll he should instead be accusing everyone who draws or loses a game of sandbagging, rating manipulation, and pre-arranged results

Kramnik: ok... let's do the procedure...

Bro, the "Kramnik Procedure" has killed me XD

8:25 "okayyy let's do the procedure" cracks me up every time I see it 😂

This is like a girl crying false rp and getting a slap on the wrist for it.

Thank you for highlighting this problem. Soon no one is going to want to play the boy who cries wolf.

Time to send Kramnik to the front lines.

The are repercussions for Kramnik though. With randoms behaving similarly it can be frustrating if theres no penalty. The penalty for Kramnik is that his legacy WAS that he was one of the chess greats; the guy who dethroned the player some still consider the GoAT. Now he's a punchline. edit:spelling

Kramnik only loses if they cheat. Weird how that works.

Great move, but its not impossible to spot. White just weakened his Knight by going g3 and with Blacks Queen allready attacking the Knight and the Rook beeing only blocked by his own Knight its pretty obvious to check where the Knight could go to. Making room for the Knight with d4 isnt easy to spot but you dont need to be a super grandmaster to find such a move, if you ask the right questions. So sad to see Krammnik beeing paranoid.

Just before the ultimate move queen capture knight on F3 is also good or am I missing something because if white recaptures, knight H3 check is good ?? Also if queen is left alone g2 mate is threatened

at this point it already has a reverse effect. being labeled as a cheater by kramnik is already considered an honor amongst chess players

Kramnik needs to be shunned and rejected publicly by all top players and organisations. He is a disgrace to the game and himself. Goodbye Kramnik.

Why was pawn d4 excellent? In game review the engine calls it an inaccuracy. Also, you would think if Peshka was cheating he would have just played the top move not an inaccuracy.

Totally agree James! You can’t just simply insinuate cheating without proof!

303 comments so I don't know if anyone else mentioned that the "Fishing Pole" involves sacking a black night to open up the h file in another context, I think, not this bishop cornering theme. Thanks again for the vids.

Serial accuser what a concept! 😂

Great summation at the end. Honest yet respectful opinion and spot on.

Kramnik plays chess like a bronze FPS player. He's the best and everyone else is cheating.

People should start reporting and blocking Kramnik.

Well I saw the move, but only after I was told to look for a great move of course.

When you keep doing the same thing and expect a different result...🤔

The Kramnik who cried wolf. He's an awkward baby who doesn't realize that OTB brings with it a lot more pressure than online events.

I report. I block. I get a coffee.

as a young man who has been following and trying to find out, what it is about: civilization, humans, life, ... so basically philosophing about anything, back when i was single digit age, i was completely stunned how teachers could teach us: about the world, things in it, learning, civilization. coincidently, civilization 1 by Sid Meiers came out in 1991. the concept of the game helped me to look at things in a much more simplistic way, i could start somewhere. also back then on local German TV we had chess-nights. and then? this guy here, behaving much much less mature than probably a few % of the society in an advanced civilization did, was one of the heroes. and i had thought they would be 1000x more intelligent than me, having surely found out the aforementioned relations of life, civilization, humaity, things in it ... and now as propaganda, the internet, communication have spread their way, this man , by his comments is so affected, so much non-objectively assessing the situation in "the conflict", i cant beleive it. my hats off to Kasparow with his sharp comments. But what a behaviour, so leisure-like his mind has dropped to another level. and i dont mean "upwards"... it is not only a huge disappointment. in single digit age, you shall overcome oyur emotions and start to train rational thinking. and he has dropped below that, is taking the things as his mind likes. but, at least communication allows us to learn in this world, and i hope, anyone letting himself down to more "wishful" thinking, thinking the way after you feel, instead ofrational assessment ... would somehow understand and work hard on himself. being more objective is the only way. and we see one thing: though the western world offers much more luxury and freedom (look at companies, culture, way of living) we still see great minds, attitude. its quite the situation, the geopolitical situation in a nutshell. Kramnik could not accept what happened by his narrative and acted like that, which shows, that living under poorer conditions doesnt make your thinking more sober or better in a way.

I am under 1900 and that was the first move I looked at after Nh3+, as you said they tie together. Doesn't take a genius to see this! C'mon Kramnik, you used to be so admired (rightfully so).

a clown like Kramnik accusing everyone who beats him of cheating creates the perfect environment for people to get away with cheating

Young Tykhon played brilliantly.

Absolutely, the correct response to Kramnik’s accusations at this point is to ignore them.

The Kid: The Future is now, old man! Kramnik: Cries, *Blocked and reported*

Kramnik used to be world champ, so he genuinely was the best chess player in the world. I think as his skills have (slightly) declined and other much stronger players have risen in what is essentially the game’s golden age, his ego and evaluation of his own relative skill level never adjusted to these changes. He still has the thought pattern of someone who thinks he is better and smarter than everyone else. So how could he be losing so much? Must be foul play, especially from other top players. Add in some old person anciety over technology and the massive shift chess has seen onto online formats (which warrants a fair bit of legitimate scrutiny, to be fair) and you have the complete mess of a guy that Kramnik has become. It’s a downward spiral that his ego won’t let him recover from because he’s already decided he’s right, so anyone who is against him is either stupid or involved in the cheating.

Bobby Fishing over here

Gotta catchem all.

Kramnik la está flasheando a dos manos

I noticed Tihon's nickname is "PeshkaCh". I think Peshka is the name of his Chess Club in Kharkiv. I used to play there before the invasion.

Such a shame. Kramnik used to be quite the chess hero for me in the late 90's, early 2000's. It makes my heart heavy to see what he's become.

La tristesse est bien plus redoutable que la vieillesse et la mort. _Sadness is much more terrible than old age and death._ Encore une excellente vidéo👍

Someone needs to sit Vlad down and tell him “if you think everyone else is the problem, perhaps the real problem is you”.

I think it should have been said that Kramnik doesn't actually have any real "Maths and statistics" against Hikaru either. He showed a huge misunderstanding of statistical analysis with what he presented. The guy really is off the deep end.

Its become an issue even at my level. I get hurt when I lose, and rather than appreciating my opponents skill and giving them a well played, I think oh..a cheater. Its not right.

I don't even see how it would be possible to cheat in 3 minute blitz unless you had a friend putting all the moves into the engine for you, and even then, the amount of time you would spend getting the engine moves would make it likely that you would lose on time. I suppose it is feasible that a player could do that for a small number of moves, but it seems highly unlikely on its face. The stridency of his accusation is outrageous.

"I've not yet been drinking pints of beer" It's been 4 hours, I hope you are enjoying your evening.

when will shamenik be banned for good?

Trapping the bishop is the waterfall trap, fishing pole is when you allow your bishop to be captured by a pawn opening the rook file to attack a castled king

This is all leading up to Kramnik rationalizing using an engine in his games to level the unfair playing field.

What was he thinking with that g3 move?

Great Victory, forget old men with hard feelings.

I agree with your comments on Kramnik's behavior. Thanks for being brave enough to express your thoughts about him online. Negativity towards someone with Kramnik's stature in the chess world can be intimidating.

at 4:18 after Re1 it may even be better just to take the rook. Black will still pick up the queen after ...Ne2 + but he will even make a mess of white's pawns in the process.

Well said. Who would've thought the former WC would've mattered to this day. If you don't see great moves coming (...d4, keep pushing 'm, baby :) and just procedurally report them as unhuman, there's always that very large cinematic neon billboard that's attached to the chess highrise, that says that Life is Cruel. If you miss a fantastic move, you missed it. Kramnik should look for more useful 'usual procedures' after getting earwashed. Maybe do the dishes, do the laundry, mow the tundra. Midjourney and any AI would absolutely love it as a prompt.

His name is not Tie-on, it more of a Tea-Hone, but with a short "o", like in "lot".

To be very honest, play well and be accused of cheating, is in fact a badge of honor.

Twenty years after: Kramnik blocking himself after being crushed by himself.

This video is spot on. I used to think Kramnik's tin hat paranoia was amusing and found his refusal to pre-move because he didn't like to "touch" the piece during his opponents turn endearing, but in the last few months he appears to have gone nuclear - his behaviour is seriously tiresome, unbecoming of a former world champion, and frankly slanderous. I randomly wandered onto his stream last night just as he was justifying his decision to rage quit the tournament - he claims to only play for "joy" now but the only thing to be had from him these days is jealousy, paranoia and bitterness. It's a shame, not just because of the young players he's trampling all over but because he does still play some good chess (I even saw him win a tight time scramble against Aman Hambleton a month or two back without premoving or dragging, all the while accusing him of using a bot. I was seriously impressed and entertained).

The question I have above all is what was drunk at 6 if not beer?

It’s called the Noahàs Ark trap. The fishing pole is a variation of the Greek gift scarfise.

Ignore this guy. He's done. No more Kramnik, please.

The thing Kramnik misses is the fact stockfish exists. Not that people use it in games but some people will analyse all their games, get into situations and see afterwards that the engine prefers this move in this position. So when people get those situations, they know the top engine moves. As Hikaru said before, if someone analyses and checks all their games you know how stockfish behaves and can mimic it. If Stockfish did not exist this way and you could not analyse games then yes Kramnik would have some valid points. This is just the info i think he really misses out on

This is just getting ridiculous. I honestly think people should just begin resigning when they are paired with Kramnik. I don't really see any other way of countering this.