ill be 298 :)

I'll call in the troops.

It looks like you have. Well done.

Congrats. :)

I go to sleep, and by the time I wake up, 303. This call to action stuff really does work. But in all seriousness, thank you! I got a little idea, that I think is pretty neat, coming up. There are prizes involved and it's subscribers only. Happy New Years everyone!

@Darth Sidious But did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Baras the wide

@@Pixx2266 kekw

Oh,yes...the story of the exile.

@@ggt47 which I just beat. Amazing story

The Tale of Revan The Bold, The Strong, The Grey. Darth Plageuis isn't a Tragedy, his story is a Comedy.

Thats just bad fan fiction

KOTOR 2 does not take place in the same timeline as the sequels. The Sequels take place in Disney’s canon

Best comment ever!!

I agree

She predicted Mace Windu

She may be refering to diffrent fall, Republic has fallen for at least few times

I. Th. the thing is, after the sacking of coruscant, the republic came back big time after revenge of the sith, there are almost no jedi left, no memory of the republic left as the empire has asserted full dominance and even disney which brutally destroyed the legends canon has portrayed the republic as almost non-existent. in fact, we dont know whether the republic will ever be the same. maybe thats their said fall.

I. Th. whatever, that wasnt the point, point was that the real fall was more likely to be what happened in revenge of the sith

I. Th. "She might have also been referring to the sacking of coruscant" She wasn't "That's when the sith took over the galaxy for the first time" No they didn't "The republic has fallen like 3 times" Not the three you mentioned however. "First when Vitiate took over the galaxy" No he didn't

Nick Name That's because there was no real fall from the Sacking of Coruscant. That's why "The Galactic Republic" came back big time, and that's literally the reason the factions signed a "Treaty of Coruscant". You are correct. That's literally the reason the factions have a cold war and is the set up for the entire game. This guy doesn't know what a fall is lol "the Republic will be reorganized into the first Galactic Empire" "tHaT's WhEn ThE SitH tOok OveR tHe GaLaXY fOr ThE FirSt TimE" Vitiate's "GaLacTiC SitH EmPiRE" controlled all of SitH SpAcE lol

Jibarhi Jones That's what Obsidian does best. The talent in writing characters and stories is why I'll always praise New Vegas over Fallout 3, for example.

Yup. And then someone comes and destroys this epic story...

Jibarhi Jones ...yes...

Kreia knows how the Star Wars franchise's narrative is structured

@@jpHasABadHandle Damn I need to play New Vegas now.

Kreia fell for a douche once lol

poor atton, such hate,even after he said" she may have been good looking once"

I think it, along with her vague Bao Dur prediction, were done to leave them open for a KOTOR 3, albeit in a clever and in character way

Makes sense given his backstory

When i first played i would think "why is she such an asshole to this guy?" Then you find out Atton's background and I'm like "ok maybe she's onto something" Objectively speaking she was right about everyone

7 parts philosophy 3 parts insanity

She is the Lord of betrayal. It is in her nature to teach through betrayal. Pain, and hunger.

Keria was victimized by so many people I understand her

Yes, but through struggle and pain you rise stronger.

Irinthius younger kreia for sure

setitus I think shes Femath from Dragon Age

Kyle Dayton is she really? No wonder I love her.

she has done 1 other video game VO and that is "shattered Union" where she is the narrator. that is the only other video game she has done. she is a TV actress. her name is Sara Kestelman. I have seen her once in one episode of "Relic Hunter" (Tia Carrere) in 2000, where she plays the role of "Simone DeGuerre" in the episode called "Memories of Montmartre". that series runs for 3 seasons, 1999 to 2001, it's sort of like a female Indiana Jones type. @Kyle Dayton no she's not. Kate Mulgrew voices Flemeth. you might think they sound alike and they do, so I can see where you could mistake her for Sara

She's flemeth from dragon age

The main lady in Fable 2, I think.

Not jango's death in particular, but his whole people becoming a shell of they once were during kotor era

Corbin Moore Perhaps she saw Jango as an example of how mandalorians die so easily during that era and then after.

@TheRealBrentmobile I thought she was refering to the clone troops as their armor is based on mandalorian armor and are "programed" with basic mandalorian fighting techniques. I wouldn't call it easy for a Jedi to slay jango as we see in his fight with Obi Wan.

@TheRealBrentmobile Boba wasn't slain by Jedi

@Corbin Moore Who said Boba Fett died? In the legends continuum, where Kotor takes place, Boba escapes the Sarlac and eventually becomes Mandalore. Last I remember reading, he couldn't return to the planet of Mandalore because of an Imperial nanovirus attack. In the Kotor universe, he's alive. In the actual main canon universe, Disney is kind of likewise alluding to him being alive. Sarlac doesn't kill you instantly...its stomach injects you with nutrients to keep you alive while it digests you over a thousand years. The idea is that Jabas barge crashed in to the pit, killing the Sarlac and exposing it. Jawas came by and cut it open to loot the contents of its stomach. It hasn't been officially confirmed, but they talk about it in one of the new books.

It’s just an Easter egg. Calm down.

@@fulltimeslackerii8229 The best kind of easter egg: One that is relevant and tied to big aspects of the lore.

@@fulltimeslackerii8229 But it was so artistically done! (c)

Idk how I feel about this? It really makes the universe smaller rather than bigger

@@nataliealphonse4634 As Cap'n Sparrow said: The world's still the same, there's just less in it.

feminists are in control of star wars and feminists can't write female characters like that. They only care about masturbating to female power fantasies and the bland female characters ever

SGT Billy It’s pretty ironic how they can’t write a female the same way they do for Disney Princesses (Tiana was the best). Ironic because Kylo Ren, a CIS male, is their best character

Nosfonader87 that's because feminists always make female characters with an agenda in mind, which sabotages the character to stroke their power fantasies

"The ability to tell a good story is insignificant next to the power of an agenda".

Meh, male exile was better

I did that my first time. Partly because it was a late night and I just wanted to go to bed after spending an hour trying to beat her. On the other hand, my Exile decided she didn't need a foreknowledge of the future to influence her actions.

I love how accurate it is though. Canderous lead the mandelorians to be a force to be feared again, which lead to the clone army. It gives me chills because that’s such a subtle but good connection.

Joseph Valle I just loved it because I love the republic commando soundtrack

REPUBLIC commando, that's funny

@@Brandelwyn "ironic"

Chills everytime, you can almost hear the "For Mandalore!" being shouted in the background

*Kote!*

Mandalore for Mandolorians eh?

@@lo-rez cringe

@@themajesticspider-man6116 fuck off

vode an brother

And i killed Kreia to preserve the galaxy

VexN369 you pretty much summed up my feelings on her the fact that she truly loved you/the main character without reprise, knowing they had suffered a pain she could only grasp at and lived on without the very life essence of the universe. How could she not but love the one who rejected all that she hated and more rouse above it. I only wish it was possible to build a deeper relationship with her though a slightly longer game but that’s just me wanting more of an amazing game XD

VexN369 kreia sounds pretty selfish if she would kill off the whole galaxy to save one person.

@@silviogrijalva8801 now that you say, that's all I see

Kreia is the only one handed big saber emo gf for me

Truth, it made me feel a great swell of pride for the Mandalorians.

Many Aruetii shall never understand...

No, no he didn't. He went to find the True Sith on Dromund Kaas.

He was imprisoned. A Sith named Lord Scourge used him in a power ploy, and Meetra Surik (aka the Exile/the player character from KOTOR2) tracked him down to free him, only to be betrayed by Scourge when they confronted the Sith Emperor. Revan was imprisoned again and spent hundreds of years locked in a battle of wills with the Sith Emperor, trying to keep his power in check. Eventually he would be freed by the Hero of Tython, who would go on to slay the Emperor's physical form. Revan would leave and form a new Order, using old Rakatan technology to build an army, but he would be stopped by an alliance of Republic and Sith forces alike, who had banded together to fight against the new forces of the old Sith Emperor.

I somewhat agree. Elements of the story of the True Sith are great, others... not so much.

Who's the KOTOR 2 equivalent of Bowser?

SWTOR? Enuff say.

@@PapitoQinn Kreia or Sion

Vineeth Philip true

Yeah, I mean, it's great storytelling to just have your character talk about shit for an hour. She's not even putting emotion into it! There's not even any music!

After ROTJ EU was meh so I really didn't care about it, but KOTOR... For me will forever remain canon.

@That Guy Over There: Yes... lets AGAIN bash Disney for something it did NOT DO... it's so easy... RIGHT? Cancellation of the Single Player KOTOR wasn't Disney decision (hell... at that time Disney didn't even OWN FUCKING RIGHTS to SW franchise) but *ELECTRONIC ARTS* who didn't wanted ANY COMPETITION (same goes for rest single player SW games which were in the production at the same time) against SW ToR MMO they were about to introduce...

Asheer Are you stupid? He talks about Disney decision about making these stories non-canon because they are dickheads.

Look here at the end kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y8eKipSYqr7bfIU.html

I wouldn't say they died like nothing. The Exile was stabbed in the back while facing one of the most powerful Sith Lords of all time, she wasn't beaten outright. As for Revan, he was taken down first by a strike team of some of the most skilled and powerful sith lords and troops that the empire could throw at him. Then later on and sorry for the spoiler if you're not aware but his dark half stayed alive and it took a combined force of the most powerful Jedi and Sith together to bring him down. So no, they didn't die like nothing.

@@seanallerdings8147 like Anakin (except he was conceived naturally) Revan was a rare being that had a special place in The Force at all times. He was never 100% aligned with any aspect of The Force. I know what you're thinking: "What about his dark half that almost bodied everyone The Republic and Sith Empire sent after him ?" Well in that case he had done something no one else had ever did with their spirit and divided their soul in twine. Even the Lord of Pain, Darth Sion, didn't do this with his intense dark side power. Revan just flat out couldn't dare die and not free the galaxy of a being he viewed as the ultimate evil to stain the stars. But yeah, I'm done wanking off Revan and everything (he's not even my favorite character). But yeah just wanted to give you my personal opinion of the one and only Revan 🤣

@@blackshogun272 I could listen to you for hours who's your fav character and why?

The Revan novel and SWTOR will never be canon to me. Not my Revan, not my Exile, not my True Sith.

As George Lucas said there's a cycle. So her seeing the future fits the Dune Prescience.

@@barrybend7189 Her goals even resemble the "Golden Path" from the right angle. She absolutely would have gotten on famously with Leto II.

i did.

15 montha to be exact

StarGreg what if "the true sith" was really the prime jedi...who created both the jedi and the sith. The prime jedi symbol on the floor in the last jedi film.

Shut up idiot, with your "the last Jedi" nonsense

StarGreg The Old Republic is kind of KotOR 3

no it isnt...it is fanfiction

Steven Irizarry How is it fanfiction if it was made by BioWare and is an official game

@Dalton Black yeah

@Dalton Black the last Jedi was t that horrible. There are loads of EU comics with much worse storytelling and character development (dark empire or infinities f.e) and people surprisingly even praise those. Sheep mentality

@@simonsalgueiro6217 I would argue that comics or even a series of novels that were poorly written do far less damage to the IP compared to a poorly written series of movies.

@@clayton3998 The problem isn't that. The problem is the mentality behind this shit. People nitpick everything wrong with TLJ, and that movie has quite a lot of problems. But it isn't that horrible, at least tried something and didn't just copy episode 4 to please fans like TFA. It just suffered from sheep mentality hate. On the other hand, several sw EU comics are so cringy and badly written it hurts, but get freaking praise from the same people that hate TLJ. Dark empire looks like if it was written by a 14 year old kid who loves Dragon Ball Z too much, and is so much centered towards making Luke and Sidious strong that it ends being a powerfest. Most Darth Vader comics are just desperately trying to make him look bad ass, even if it makes no sense. Infinities has a scene were Yoda takes over the death star (yes, alone) and crashes it in coruscant, destroying the imperial palace. It's so fucking stupid it hurts, probably millions of people died due to the explosion, but it was "bad ass", which seems the only important thing for the writters. And people freaking praise these comics! The same people that hate TLJ. That's my problem with the sw fandom

I think the difference is that haters of any Expanded Universe/Legends content can just... y'know, ignore it? You can't just brush The Last Jedi off like you could any poorly written Expanded Universe content. That's why TLJ *does* deserve a lot more scrutiny. Because it is canon. If it's bad, even if it isn't *that* bad, it will weaken the franchise.

I like that last part. Too many people worry about how something is said instead of what is actually being said.

Thank you. I don't know about legendary, but I get what you're saying. It doesn't exempt him from being a fool however. Like she says, the force looks out for them. Can't have a galaxy full of only the wise. Maybe that's a more probable theory to how Jar Jar lived so long.

Zayne Carrick is right there to prove that the force wants some people unhappy but alive, LOL

Fools arent blinded by probability, only by desire

@@PapitoQinn is she really being dismissive, though? When she says "the Force watches out for the ones such as him... as it does for the old such as I". I see it as she kind of putting herself on the same level as him and that the Force has to "be on the lookout" for them lest they go out of control and "swim against the currents" of the Will of the Force... i.e.: Kreia wanting to kill the Force She does consider him to be one of the Lost Jedi, doesn't she? "They were the Lost Jedi, you know? The True Jedi upon which the future will be built. They simply needed a leader and a teacher." And he was the one that she had to constantly keep in check, even going so far as blackmailing him so he wouldn't mess with her plans. The only exception was Mical, who could see right through her. Mical does say he recognizes her and that "not even the markings of the dark side could hide who she was". She easily messes up with his mind, though, because as she says his mind is weaker than the others as he is "too open and too trusting" and thus "all his thoughts of her will slip away from his mind like water". Atton is immune to all of that. She isn't even capable of reading his mind for a very long time.

@@JayL- An interesting perspective, although Kreia didn't plan to blackmail Atton lest he become a significant obstacle. When imprisoned on Telos she just caught on to how nervous he was inside what he thought was a Jedi academy. His mind is difficult to read to because of his training and talent in concealing his mind. It was probably impossible for any average Jedi or Sith to do it. But Kreia has talents of her own. After that she just discovered a tool of opportunity in Atton. I don't know about any kind of time allotment for mind reading though, the game never gives us any indication of anything like that.

Heh! Me too!

how do you feel that she didn't foresee the droid attack on the wookies?

"What's a Wookie?"

Sjw and Barbara Lerner spectre tribe gunna save us all haha

Bring her and Revan back.

@@deltaket6485 "What's a Revan?"

A picture of future Telos? None that I could find. That would have informed the viewer of what became of Saw Guerrera, but not of Onderon. I actually never saw that trailer until now that you mentioned it. But even so, I think most of my viewers have a somewhat hostile view of SWTOR.

@@PapitoQinn Yes we do. SWTOR SUCKS.

@@Motoko_AHTR Not all of us.

I like good stories swtor is fun

@@Motoko_AHTR It's the best Star Wars game of the decade.

Vode An has that effect

The grey jedi in the game are pretty much like luke in the last jedi.

I mean, in reality, TLJ took a LOT of KOTOR elements, such as the Force connection between Rey and Kylo being reminiscent of Revan and Bastila, as well as hints of the philosophy of Kreia being played out in that Luke's new Jedi Order was DOOMED to fail from the start as trying to find a middle ground in the Force always fails.

Vilheim it did but it was in a bad and confusing way

Apples is good Fair, I agree execution wasn't great.

Far as I'm concerned that garbage is from some weird fucked up dark universe

@Michael Hewitt-Clarke My point exactly.

They had to choose between the death of the people and the death of their ways.

Returning back here with more of the story. Their warrior culture DID end up being the end of them, Mandalorians returned to the warrior code to resist the empire, and for that Mandalor is destroyed, it's people slaughtered its culture nearly eradicated.

@@kazmark_gl8652 But without that warrior culture, they are not mandalorians. To be a Mandalorian you have to follow the Resol'nare as to be a Jedi is to follow the Jedi Code. Thatswhy with Jango we can talk about the death of the Mandalorians, he rejects the Mandalorian way ,being Mand'alor, after his defeat at the hands of Dooku and the other jedis, so even if in his dead he is using a mando armor, he was a dar´manda. And in the Disney canon we can see, that in fact was the perservation of the warrrior ways that allow the Mandalorians to survive, as culture, as one and in the end returning to reclaim their home.

What did kreia say about order 66

Disney would have screwed it up, but that's what happens when you don't have the brains, talent, or creativity that God gave paste

Daniel Letner And are driven by Cultural Marxism.

And Political Correctness.

And influence from EA's lootbox microtansactions.

Turmoil Post mondernism an Marxism . Kreia mention philosophies that Nieztche had explained. Marxism i think is the embodiment of slave morality. Everything Kreia is explaining is whats going on in disney star wars. The problems repeat as the jedi and sith repeat their wars because they cease to listen to the truth of reality.

Would she speak of the echo that the Mandalorians leave behind? The final revenant that haunts the stars with the wrath of ages hanging heavy on his shoulders? A minuscule voice that silently howls of his forgotten people's might.

Chris Avellone. Arguably the best writer the video game industry has.

Vitiate was a weak and disappointing resolution to this hook

What do you mean?

I do not know, what the man above meant, but Kreya couldn't even match her own teachings, as they contradicted the will of the Force. And she could not break that will, that's why she was abandoned by everyone. Both Sith and the Jedi.

I could see how he feels sorry for Kreia. Smarter than most, repeatedley cast out by all her allies, misunderstood, more powerful than most, and she lost the love of her life in the wars. In fact it would make a lot of sense that these were the reasons why she was so bitter.

That's why I pity her. Poor Keira...the jedi and sith teachings have lost themselves and have become hollow.

She never was anti-Jedi, she was anti-poor teachings. The Jedi had grown too complacent and too comfortable in their dogma. They became zealots to a god they made rather than zealots to a truth that is.

Thats the build up for KOTOR as planned by Obsidian

Not planned by these writers. JUST SAYING

You're absolutely right. And if Revan was female she would make a reference to Carth.

sadly, the one who wrote the story here is not with Obsidian anymore. And he was the main reason the story is what it is, an amazing guy..

@@enes8k9 He's working freelance now, so they could easily call him in to write. And he's working on Jedi Fallen Order, so it's not too far out of the question.

Mass Effect Andromeda wasn’t that bad. I heard they are going to finally make other Knights of Old Republic

@@keetongu445 yes and no Because he had an issue with the upper management Its possible because now Obsidian is owned by Microsoft so he doesn't have to deal with them

"I what?" "Yes, because Drew Karpyshyn took Vrook literally and decided that you had no personality or common sense of your own. He decreed that you let HK-47 wander off before you talked to Bastila, then went after Revan with just T3, and you forgot everything you know of everything except worshiping Revan" "But that makes no sense"

Well, nobody’s perfect.

Even in Legends the Mandalorians came back. Boba Fett even became Mandalore and saved the Mandalorians from the Yuuzhan Vong.

Thank you

jay whit Nah. That would ruin her uniqueness. I'm glad Rebels stopped just short of revealing anything about her.

And they attempt to create a new Meetra Surik. Out of a Mary Sue. Or is Rey not supposed to become a new Grandmaster of the Order? BioWare and Obsidian created real Star Wars here. Not Disney.

To echo Kreia's words: "You have failed me, completely and utterly".

They wouldn't put such a complex, nuanced, and morally grey character as a lead in a Disney movie. Their movies are suppossed to be family friendly with clear cut good/bad guys so young children and simpletons can understand them.

You mean jar jar Abrams, krazy Kathleen Kennedy and riun Johnson

What happens to Bao Dur's remote after his death? I guess it joins up with the HK Units?

@@GeriatricFan1963 destroyed when the MSG is activated again

Considering Dinn is headed to Mandalore, to a part of it that's ancient and sacred, I'd applaud the writers if he found the Helm of Mandalore. He really is the perfect fit, a firm believer in the code and traditions that made their ancestors great, that made them so feared that even when squabbling amongst themselves the Empire still decided to wipe them out. Revan's instructions to Canderous still hold true, when the true darkness comes the galaxy will need the Mandalorians.

@@wittyreviewer well said. With what you implied, we can only surmise that once Mandalore is restored, the true darkness will reveal itself, and it will be either Vitiate, or Darth Nihilus that’ll resurrect. Perhaps both. There will be an inevitable end to the force, and Kreia will be redeemed.

Ok boomer

I hope a miracle happens and swtor is just decanonized in favor of a fresh Kotor 3

Already died when they canceled Kotor 3. The Old Republic is garbage in comparison

Slappy White You are right, the true enemy of our galaxy is not the Galatic Empire, but the Disney Empire, controled by emperor Mickey, also know as Darth Mouseus. But not everything is lost, we can still reunite the fans and create our New Rebel Alliance.

Yes, that's what bolshevik rats do. They will remake everything to fit their agenda, and what they can't remake they throw out.

Nothing in SWTOR delivers satisfactorily on this

But that would mean they actually cared about what the fans think

A pc, you peasant.

Justin Green Lantern Golf she just a glorified secretary....

@Justin Green Lantern Golf Kennedy doesnt create the movies you idiot

Thanks. I made a second one for the male exile side. I added more things. Could really use a scene with Bastilla for a reason I won't get into. But i added a picture.

Thanks!

And have a happy New Years