I mean that was one of the many reasons that people pointed out as to why obama is really doing this centrist run all of a sudden. He doesnt want bernie to win because he will immediately expose him and tarnish his legacy. Keep him out and people who dont pay attention will still see obama as this big lefty. When the rest of us know thats not even remotely the case.

Yep

This will happen because the emotional appeal and easily manipulated leftist vote for ideals not reality.

He's been hoping nothing changes for the last 10 years.

What does Obama and Trump have in common, they only care about themselves.

as with Yang

and Tulsi 🙆‍♂️

Correct the dems have done nothing but talk left while voting to support every major republican legislation just to get bills for their states passed easier. They are corrupt now just as much when Tammany Hall controlled the 5 Burroughs in New York, NY.

Bernie will never, ever be president. I can put that on a certificate that you can frame.

Bernie, Yang, and Tulsi are popular with independents and people who break from party lines, however, this is exactly why they basically have little chance of winning the Democratic nomination. Most Democrats and most of the DNC primary voters *like* Hillary, Obama, and Biden, run-of-the-mill establishment democrats. It's only the disaffected voters (most of us here on KZfaq, who consume independent media) who are unhappy with the DNC, have considered voting 3rd party, etc, who have dislike establishment democrats.

I voted for Obama in 2008 because I believed his bullshit about hope and change. I refused to vote for him in 2012 after I realized that he's Hillary Clinton in blackface.

The Democratic circular firing squad has formed. No doubt they will all vote to re--elect Trump. I think Obama is going to endorse Trump when all is said and done.

Thomas Frazer You nailed it.

Thomas Frazer True that, Obama was a disappointment

@scrub44 Obama hasn't even endorsed his own VP Joe Biden yet. So clearly, he endorses Trump over him. It's probably because even Trump is less offensive than Gaffing Joe. That says a lot.

Yep, him, Yang, and Tulsi are the only ones that actually want to help the people! (Since they're not corporates)

Democrats: He's not even a democrat!!!! Me: That's fine because I only vote for progressives. :)

Yang is the future. He can get this freedom dividend give him the job

Exactly. He’s refused to sell out his whole life. He goes against the grain and does what’s right while the rest of them fall in line.

Seth Sanders is a socialist. That’s not progress that’s regress.

Boy, are you slow! Imagine if you were actually unbiased, you would have been hating this establishment chump for 12 years.

You have to admit. He’s a better public speaker than trump

It’s bittersweet with him .... I got a sour taste in my mouth when unarmed black men were being killed under his watch and also Chicago went to hell

Alejandra, you are not alone. Many people were fooled by Obama. Now we know better.

@@CocktailsWithEdgar being a good public speaker is not enough if all we are hearing is lies

Man you got a point I never thought of that because why did they get leaked?

Weird, right? Why would they leak this? It can only galvanize Bernie supporters that Obama is definitely a hack.

@@bernlin2000 Oboomer thinks black voters still see him as Lord and Savior after he betrayed them and sold out

leak this to obumma Trump wins again

I just donated another $17 out of anger at those inside the beltway. Get rid of them! Drain the swamp! Bye Obama and Trump. Go away and dont come back!

You are potentially the right choice. You may also be just another douche.

Not a good rule because Trump filled that spot perfectly in 2016! Sometimes everyone is against you because you suck. I don't care if Bernie is a Dem or not. It's not the party that makes the candidate. Parties divide people.

#tulsiyang2020

Trump and Bernie. Both great.

Scag Swag-21 Yes you know you are the correct choice when both sides attack and attack kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bKpgmZCd2dzHcmg.html

Exactly, but the Hell with Obama. It`s all about the Bern. #Beernie2020!!! #JusticeDemocrats.com #Wolf-Pac.com

It's like we're his ex who said, "I don't want you back, buddy, I've got a new man and he's gonna give me all the things you promised but never delivered."

Obama isn't "jealous", he's just working for his next paycheck.

Absolutely

Gaming Bitchface Get out of my head. I say that all the time 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Exactly. Bernie is better than any party loyalist because he puts his country over his party.

LMFAO! You hit it right on the head!

@Dan Ryan Bernie is the only person in this election who is working to make your life better: All of the rest are working to make their life better.

Money is making these Corporate shills Scared & Thank Goodness Bernie is exposing their True Colors Power definitely Corrupts Absolutely

Bernie is too far left, FJG will never work..

I agree as Bernie does not have an ego like most running for President.

2008: "Yes, we can!" 2009: "Yes, you did it! -- So you're no longer needed. Now go F yourselves. My bouncer, Rahm, will 'escort' you to the door."

I think this is a really good comment.

Very good Obama your done you are over and your love for money and corporate Democrats and billionaire you're out of her buy Felecia 😘👍👍👍🔥

“Yes we can” “But we didn’t”

@@DaveLH 2009 Angry Voter : " I don't get it, Barack ! We've welcomed you into our homes, Christmas, birthdays, Easter...! We trusted you, man ! WE TRUSTED YOU BASTARD !!! WHY YOU'VE SOLD US OUT ??? " Obama : " That is a good question. Annnd uhhhh I'm going to answer that question " Signals his bodyguard. Angry Voter : " Hey, Don't taze me bro ! " BZZZZT BZZZZZ " AAAAAAAHHHHH !! HELP !! " Obama : " No. No one is going to help you now ! " kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bp-YibKD1bjcZmQ.html

Obama misspoke. He underestimated Trump.

How? Source?

Got news for ya...it's 2019 and he's JUST LIKE a moderate republican.

And yet in 2008 he seemed somewhat more liberal than Hillary Clinton, which is why I preferred him to her. How ironic! And sad.

Still would be considered one now. #bernie2020

Moderate Republicans weren't vile frauds who cheated their own base.

Duane Reed A moderate Republican would never have been friends with the Muslim Brotherhood, would not have kissed the rear of Al Sharpton or brought as many Muslims in as Obama did.

That shows how tribalist establishment Dems are... Look how in this last debate Kamala talked about Tulsi criticizing Obama and the Party like it was the most heinous crime under the sun.

Meanwhile the "real democrats" would happily vote for a wannabe fascist dictator.

He is a liberal capitalist or a moderate republican no change

It resonates with some people who vote Democrat cause they always vote Democrat and their parents and grandparents and so on always vote Democrat. There are some Republicans like that too.

@Big Brother I guess you don't care for the highway system, or the Fire fighters, policemen and the United States Millitary that protect us all, all of which are social programs. Stop being a moron and pushing your stupid commie bullshit, social programs help prop up this country. If people at bottom have purchasing power it props up capotalism. We taxed the heck out of the rich from 1930-1970 and it was arguably the most prosperous time we ever had as a country.

I voted for Bernie in the last primary. But if his supporters are going to keep making up lies about one of our greatest presidents, Obama, to try to get higher in the polls, I probably won't vote for Bernie this time. If you have to trash Obama over unnamed sources and made-up quotes and lies to help Bernie's campaign, then maybe Bernie doesn't deserve the nomination again.

Pete M. I’m not a Bernie supporter. I’m just curious why you think Obama was one of our greatest presidents... unless you work for Goldman Sachs?

Everything Trump has rolled back since the start of his presidency undoes eight years of progress made under Obama. As far as everything Trump has done, rolling back anything Obama did is the only thing Bernie fans actually agree with? That would make them no less stupider and willfully ignorant than the Trumpanzees. obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/issues I'm for Bernie too, but I don't make up crap just to boost him. This talk about Obama being against Bernie is in the Fox News headlines, too.

@@trickq5883 don't forget that Trump killed the TPP which was gonna be the final nail in the coffin for the average worker. Obama did everything he could to try fastrack it before he left office. Dont kid yourself, Obama was a wolf in sheeps clothing. His legacy is one of a snake in the grass.

@@jf9979 Yes. It's one of the first things Trump did. Forgive me, but I have a hard time believing Trump ever had good intentions with these rollbacks no matter what positive or negative effect he thinks those policies might have had. Trump with good intentions?

Money changes people...for real...

@@myraseeger4707 money doesn't change people, it brings out their true character.

@@alhassangangu4357 I'd say it can do both.

Because Bernie wasn't a threat then; it was in the bag for HRC.

I think it's because he realizes there's better candidates now

Who is Sanders REALLY working for? He openly admits he's a Z-ist, opposes BDS because it hurts The Homeland of the …s, supports The White Helmets, a Mossad and Deep State creation, endorses regime change in Syria, supports the incarceration of Assange, votes to fund every war every time because it helps Isr… - it's all there in the open. foreignpolicy.com/2019/11/08/2020-presidential-election-democratic-candidates-national-security-employees-contributions/ Vote Third Party - REAL Third Parties, not the Fake Sanders kind.

Exactly.

D Personal ok boomer

Don`t know if you are trying to correct him (which you shouldn`t...cause that was relevant wit) or you just are throwing the phrase around to seem relevant. Either way....

@@ninjacrumbs I'm pretty sure that the person you were responding to wasn't actually replying to the OP.

**yawn** I guess when you don't know what you're talking about, you can always make crap up...

Patrick Gerace Yep, look at you.

Bernie even helped with writing Obamacare. He was there when they announced it as well.

It was always called medicare... People like trump nicknamed it Obamacare just to get people to dismiss it...

You're not alone.

A third party will never win a general. The only other option was, the first time, a well respected person with horrible policies. The second time, a republican who pretends to be a moderate by hating Trump, but falls in line with the rest of them in the end. Had you not voted, Romney and/or McCain would’ve won.

You did the right thing by voting for Obama. Just vote for Bernie this time

In your defense, the first time you voted for him he was only a baby snake. Second time it was an avoidable mistake.

Chubbub Dreamer same brother, same. I teared up watching him win on election night in ‘08. Little did I know what a fraud he was.

@@GregPopabich I'm white and my wife and I both cried. Was great at the time, not so much in hindsight.

He is the American Tony Blair.

If we Natives had a president like Obama was we wouldn’t be surprised we’re also used to disappointment.

Same here! What irks me more is when the establishment tries to buy me with DEMON OBAMA'S name. AKA the wolf in the sheets cloth, AKA the Wall Street Face, AKA the war monger, AKA the corporate sellout. I do not see any good he did for the African American community.

I respond to those attacks by just saying that he is human first.

Right he’s an independent. He operates in the interest of the people not party and not donors because he’s refused all big money corporate donations

Agreed

nope

I must disagree, I am in the Bernie train and want him to win at any cost, but Obama is still extremelly popular, so he can still move a lot of democrat voters, just the memory of Obama is what is keeping Biden on the top.

No, they will force a contested convention hook or crook!

Paul Sasso I do not think so. Obama is extremely popular.

The key to Bernie's resurgence _continuing_ is if Tulsi Gabbard can continue to attack the Dem establishment _directly,_ which will ultimately provide a huge benefit to Bernie's campaign. It is, in fact, the only way he can win...attacking the Dem establishment, but he has always been reluctant to do it. But if it is Tulsi is the attack dog, going after the Dem Establishment, Bernie will begin to appear more "moderate." Right now Bernie's and Tulsi's campaigns are in a symbiotic mode. It just might work out...

@@JJ8KK If Bernie wins Iowa he propably gets the nomination, Tulsi only strong atack was against Kamala, she was weak on Warren and Buttgig, Tulsi probably not even going next debate, so she kinda blew her last chance to help Bernie.

That could be a dangerous list to be on. Eppstein?

Haha clinton is kinda like aya from thrones

Bite your tongue. 😱😱😱

Take care Krystal. Hire armed body guards.

Suicide list*

the wars in other countries? The prosecution of whistleblowers? Expansion of surveillance to become a surveillance state? People died for our freedoms and the above is like he is spitting on them.

@Helen Collins. You're not alone. I'm finding out more and more every day about Obama. I'm heartbroken and feel like a fool. I wish that I was more aware back then as I am now, but I was bedridden for allot of it. So, I guess I have an excuse for being fooled? 😔🤷‍♀️

....can't argue ...

Yeah, and he's proof that putting a D next to your name doesn't automatically make you a democrat which people like Manchin seem to think.

Bernie is an FDR Democrat.

Yes and Bernie not only endorsed Obama for his two terms but campaigned for him.. So that is a backstabber move on the part of Obama..

Are we surprised, tho? Obama backstabbing those who once supported him is not anything new.

Pete Buttigeg also endorsed Bernie in the 2000s. He wrote an op-ed and called Bernie bold.

Endorsing Bernie helps them until Bernie becomes president and they have to pay taxes on all their corrupt money.

That’s before Obama earned a shitload of dough and bought his 4 mansions.

Turns out the change he was after was change for the millions he cashed in on.

Cowabunga!!!

The reformers are. Just not radical change.

Hillary is going after Bernie as a "Russian asset" as well now.

@Halpher please keep bullshit opinions to yourself, think for yourself, don't repeat uninformed trash to seem edgy.

@Halpher Yang's Freedom Dividend is superior to Bernie's $15/hr and FJG. How is that trash unless you hate money? Bernie's plan will only benefit people below $15/hr or without a job, while Yang's plan will benefit every citizen over the age of 18 that's not part of the millionaire/billionaire class, which is around 95% of all people.

@Halpher How am I ignorant? You don't think I know that? You're the ignorant one that fails to see that Yang also wants the same thing. Yang also wants systematic change. You obviously don't know any of his policies or what he wants to implement. Unlike you, I don't hate Bernie or think he's trash, but I do believe some of his policies are inferior. Do you think all Yang has to offer is money? Yang goes much deeper then that.

FDR put 120,000 Japanese-Americans into CONCENTRATION CAMPS. Many died from illness or were shot trying to escape. For the good he did, he was still a monster.

Bernie needs a Smedley Darlington Butler to back him.

If Obama and the Corporate Democrats come after Bernie Sanders he should go on Fox News and burn down the Democratic Party by taking his supporters into a new Labor Party. If Sanders could pull 70% of the people out of the Democratic Party they would negotiate. Because the things Bernie Sanders has proposed are not that bad when compared to what the Wealthy Class deserves. I remember when the Super Delegates were voting or committing to Clinton before California and Progressive Sanders supporters were calling and threatening those Corporate tools. Sanders had to get them to stop. But if Bernie Sanders gets within 100 of winning and then at the convention those Corporate Democrats give the nomination to someone else even though Sanders had the highest total even after Super Delegates, there will be violence. Just going by what i saw when Clinton cheated and people knowing this is our last and only chance to have a Country not run by Rich people. That is one thing I do not understand about the Right, they are big on the 2nd Amendment and think they are the patriots, but they should have learned in first grade that America was created for WE THE PEOPLE and there was plenty of anti rich wording said by Thomas Jefferson. We are not supposed to pass debt from one generation to the next and the Wealth transfer tax was to remain high. The American Government has seized by the corrupt Rich, I thought the Right needed those AK 47's for just such an event. The America that saved the World in 1945 and then wrote the Rules of International Law and war does not exist anymore. The America that exist in 2019 and in 2015 ( Obama ) is the opposite of the America that stopped Germany and Japan. The America that existed in 1945 would declare the new America a Warring Nation that violates international law and human rights. Start in history with the Roman Empire and you will see each time a successful Country is finally infested by Corrupt Rich people it destroys the country from within. Russian Empire. The Russian Empire entered the war in order to preserve its Great Power status, but it ended the war in a bout of revolution and decolonization. ... The result was a year of revolution in 1917 that destroyed the monarchy, unhinged the empire. The Rich Aristocracy running Russia led to revolution just like in the 1500's Spain was the leading power because of all the Gold looted from South and Central America. The Spanish Aristocracy used the Gold to try and take over England and also fought the Netherlands at the same time. With Spanish Galleons full of Gold an Aristocrat ruled Spain and was at constant war. On the home front things weren't going so great for Spain. There were several revolts, including the Catalan revolt and the the Basque revolt among others, when the Count Duke of Olivares proposed raising taxes. For whatever reason the King relied completely a man with a record for causing trouble (his decisions had lead to the war with the Dutch and later France). Spains Empire was on decline after losing another war to Portugal this time. Always throughout History, corrupt, narcissistic, leaders led to miserable lives in their own Countries many times bad enough for those population to revolt. America was the first Country ruled by We The People, it was taken away from the people in 1976-78 by Corrupt Republican Supreme Court traitors that made bribery legal. The American Middle class is now gone and Americas GDP decreases every year as the corrupt Government officials abandon everything America was created to represent. If We The People gain control back from the 3,000 that rule 300 million, heads should roll , so that the sick Wealthy Elite never forget the price they pay for a Class War in which they send our Factories to a Communist Nation that has stolen all of our secrets of Manufacturing and Communist China now has the fastest growing economy on the planet without any Deficit. They took the Wealthy Elites factories and the Wealthy Elite now play dangerous Stock Market numbers games creating their Wealth out of thin air. Even Russia said to our allies that America is no longer the ethical, moral, just Country it once was as Putin suggested to our allies that they would be safe if they made peace with Russia and told America to take their Military bases out of Europe. America is under attack by the Wealthy Elite, the Chinese attack our financial system and search for weaknesses through the internet and Russia attacks our Republic through fake news by creating bots to form opinions and create fake arguments,

@@jacksonwillbert1352 I was gonna mention this, but you beat me to it! I wish this would be brought up more. Almost no American today knows about it. In fact, I don't think I learned about it in school. I only knew about it from my dad who is a history buff

Animation Vault he has!!

I would if I was a US resident...

You rock.

Me too! ✌️

Couldn’t of said it better.

I get not liking him, but the worst? I think you need to study some more presidents. Start with Woodrow Wilson. That piece of shit was absolutely the worst IMO.

@@HamishDuh2nd I think you're missing how much of Bush's horrible, illegal, and unconstitutional policy Obama cemented as our new norm (and much of it, like the drone program and deportations, he expanded) and how he helped pave the way for Trump (and btw, one of the last things he did between Trump's election and inauguration was to expand executive power).

So you voted for an American hating fraud who tried to destroy this country to another complete nut job who will (with his radical policies) make another attempt at putting us under?

@quercus alba I thought bill had that title.

Glyne You’re believing a an article that hadn’t been corroborated? So many leftist his pieces on Obama are disturbing, especially since they usually lack substance

@Carl Spackler This was pretty hilarious lmao, do you really not realize who the president is?

I've contended with friends that Obama is essentially a republican outside of his lipservice to gun control and some other social issues. He is a dyed in the wool wall street hack, letting the investment banks take gov money (don't hear cries of socialism there!), with zero prosecutions and then keeping them happy by bowing to insurance lobbyists. This was the absolute last straw when it comes to any residual goodwill Obama had with me.

@@jocksharerock7318 Hoping it isn't true are you??...actions speak louder than words bro. Give it time, all will be revealed.

"We don't need no stinkin' badges"

When ?

Edouard very recently, when being questioned about immigration. It’s on youtube.

Edouard here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jcygaq2ZyZqVkYk.html

@@pallasonair6443 thank you for the link I will go see

Couldn't hear what the person said before Biden said to vote for Trump.

Right, what happened to "Hope and change"

What about obama 2018? Thats what scares me... obama said something entirely contradicting what he says right now...

Lord Obama is doing what's needed to stand up against that crazy socialist.

Concise, MsZeitgeist.

thats the problem...too many uneducated voters who are easily manipulated

Hit the nail on the head

I agree but the problem is not many voters are educated on policies or even care. Do you know how many Biden supporters I have talk to and they all give me the same BS line, "I am voting for Joe Biden because he was Obama's VP" and not one could articulate even one of his policies. The reason why this corruption happens is because most people are sheep and think that it doesn't involve/affect them. Too much ignorance is what fuels this corruption problem we have.

What ideas does Bernie have? To help illegal immigrants?? Abort babies up till 9th month & even after birth?

Very well said!

Well, what IS Russiagate other than a distraction from what those leaked emails revealed about the _DNC's_ meddling?

He's too much of a democrat to be associated with a democratic party that no longer believes in democracy.

A corporate one at that

Presidents trying to do less have been killed before...picking a VP more objectionable to the MIC (and especially the CIA) than yourself is good for the health of any President leaning left.

HailG3: YES! Candidates like Sanders are a real threat to the system. He IS in danger.

HailG3...you r absolutely correct...thought I was the only one who was thinking....

The last thing they want him to be is a martyr.

Probably more a threat than Trump.

He gave them wellfair

kirkm63 Lesser evilism. In the US system, the other option just has to be worse.

I'm also GUILTY AS CHARGED... learned my lesson, though. NO MORE mainstream Dems or Reps for me !!

@@robdillon2788 No they always had that, you don't get it, he is for the rich and who did he hire all wall street executives, "Yes We can" No he didn't!

@@boggisthecat Maybe not, but thats what they want us to think.

He signed the NDAA and made the bush tax cuts permanent. Obama is a monster and will be remembered as such.

Why? The guy secretly set up an illegal, massive surveillance state. He has always been corrupt. He isn't evil or anything, but he is a very effective liar when he has to be. People actually believed his spiel in 2008. So effing gullible.

Don't let Obama's smooth talk sway You Into thinking he's for The People a Wolf in Sheep clothing

@Very Fake News CNN troll

The people’s choice

@Very Fake News CNN Fake news

@Very Fake News CNN Still with the fake news? Get the car key out of your ear, Buford.

@Very Fake News CNN More fake news

Wa Yep, Obama is showing he was always center right. It’s mind blowing. I voted for him twice.

Uist1314 Both aides use the same arguments, hence the need for progressive ideas.

Yessss

Yes "govern like a moderate Republican (Reagan was hardly a moderate, though)"

Jesus Christ dude! I thought I was the only one aware of this! No one ever mentions it, but it is true!

LIIIIIINK

Bernie was the one that got the people together to protest Obama’s snake tactics.

@@outinthenortheast2728 www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obamas-evolution-behind-the-failed-grand-bargain-on-the-debt/2012/03/15/gIQAHyyfJS_story.html

Can someone tell me more about this or provide a link? Thanks

I like Bernie, but I like Yang more.

Bernie won 23 primaries in 2016, 43% of the entire Democratic primary votes. He earned his mantle as the leader.

Luis Torres lol what a loser. Why waste your money?

Bravo!

Foolish to think a socialist president is good for America. You will be saying; "money I don't have" more often than you can imagine.

@@stellablue7435 hes a social democrat..like fdr..a man so popular that he had to die to leave office...Bernie has by far most support in this country

Hear, hear

This is a Class War.

Every single person watching this should be volunteering for Bernie's campaign. You have time for something this important. There is something for everyone to do. Making phone calls, distributing flyers, etc. You have one chance, and Bernie is not going to win without everyone doing everything they can. Don't look back and regret that you didn't help. Volunteer today!

Yes the Class War is a subset - another front of the Cold Civil War. And I am speaking in general, not just between Democratic factions, but also between Dems and republicans.

Have you watched the audiences at any of his recent speeches? Quasi-religious adoration in their eyes while throwing him $300k-$500k per speech.

First Nobel Peace Prize winner who actually took us into more shooting conflicts than his predecessor Bush did.

The first D of partial color to receive more Wall Street $$$ than all his GOP/RICO competitors COMBINED.

N he probably hates the fact that is actually the only thing he'll beremembered for n probably for being the guy that sparked the resistance

People will screw Dems if they do anything untowardly to Bernie.

He's no threat to anyone. He could be the most popular candidate in history and he still won't get the nomination until he tows the party line. They don't need to kill him.

Bill Lyons Yeah and JFK is still alive and well.

Here's an even better move if he gets the nomination; Get a VP that's more radical than him. Make himself the lesser evil even to his worst enemies.

Bernie /Tulsi