Life of a boxing fan. The big fight never happens

@@gregoryboatswain1605or they happen 20 years too late. Maybe ksi vs Jake in 2044 in a pointless exhibition? 😂

Khabib vs tony Ferguson?

@@user-yf8oy7oz4l To be fair they tried to make that fight several times and both pulled out for various reasons. That was just unlucky. This fight isn't even trying to be made.

I have been studying ksi Vs Jake since 2018. After 6 years of collected interviews, data , charts I have came to conclusion: without a doubt Jake is ducking the one and only Nightmare K.S.I

It’s because they have wack events, like random people know one heard of, if they did deji vs slim or against gib, that would do massive numbers, it’s because they choose lame fighters

big man ting styll 🔥🔥🔥

“Jake paul bullshit” are you good? 💀💀💀

@@Mr.Vagabond It is bullshit, not saying he's not smart for doing it - he distanced himself from the circus so he could fight ex-fighters / bigger names and make bigger bags - it's good business, doesn't mean it's not bullshit.

@@Joelucas210 I would say they don’t want to rush the big fights however as more time goes by the numbers will drop for these so called big fights. But I do reckon they need a couple of filler events with known names this year if they want it to last if we don’t get ksi Jake this year

and if they do take it seriously, it just become amateur boxing with no names to people who arent apart of their specific fan base

@@Bloodclatburner I think eventually what Mams will do is bring in ex UFC & MMA stars in a bid to raise the profile of misfits but that comes with the risk of, it will be like another AT situation, the current stars will basically be killed off if they get matched up against them

I think that's one of the things misfits needs to invest in, content creation for fighters, especially their current stars and upcoming talent/fan favourites. Not just fight week vids but content leading up to fights and in between events. Especially when the fan favourites are not fighting, working with them to create content is key to keep the fans engaged. I think the current model misfits use is only really effective on the cards which have the tag team/survivor tag and gimmick fights. Like u know on 008 in July wen they had the survivor tag, they did the misfits manor series, that went really well with the fans, content like that on a regular basis would do great I reckon.

@@username2828 Even then, I think that when it comes to the people who were big before boxing, people like Jay, Deji, Gib, KSI etc.. they're 9/10 times much more entertaining in anything other than boxing. So it's not even that I want them to be doing videos to promo their boxing, I'd just rather see them do actual KZfaq and just let this boxing phase die since it just makes people boring at best and unlikeable at worst

Facts

Jake is a bum. The Tommy fight certainly didn’t prove Jake is better and KSI jumps around like a kid a trampoline park. Jake wants to A-side KSI hard bc his “real fighter” joke is over if he loses, KSI doesn’t wanna make concessions bc he doesn’t wanna lose

@@lolcow6668slim is too slow for Ksi ksi has speed defense for slim if he pulls up on him

KSI and his team want that fight a lot more than Jake & his team tbh.

Still wanna play up his "retirement"

​@@klsecond5755wdym I think he actually did retire

@@revowow because gib didn’t promote cause he didn’t give a shit about mcbroom he just wanted to beat him as he was robbed before the appeal vs Taylor holder imo gib is one of the goats of influencer boxing if you get rid of the main fighters (ksi & jake) imagine a gun vs slim or gib vs AT that would sell tf out

@@bradley_jordz doesn't matter . he didnt sell thats all that matters in business. can't be a hub if he can't sell a big fight.

@@bradley_jordz I feel if Gib gets a saudi fight next and it does well and he has a good performance, the people who critique him will be back on his side lol. All it takes is one good performance and good numbers to sway the community imo. I think that's what they are trying to do, if u watch recent interviews Gib's manager has had with Fred (cannot remember wen the last one was lol), all they talk about is waiting for the next opportunity, creating storylines etc etc. I am pretty sure they are done with Kingpyn and if u recall, prior to Kingpyn announcement early last year, Gib was in talks to fight on the Jake v Tommy card in Saudi but it fell through, so I reckon this year another opportunity will come his way, he just working in silence as usual

Thinks he’s bigger than he is though, one of the better influencers boxers for sure but nobody really cares when it comes to viewers so why should he demand millions?

@@frankieeefinn8798ong, and he brings no audience either

Ksi should knock him out

to fight who? slim or salt or kenny?

He got no reason to

Jake won’t take the fight wo big A side privileges. His “real fighter” Larp is over if he loses to a guy doing star jumps and acting a fool in the ring. Jake is a bum

​@@joshASMThere's literally no chance, like even 10% of a chance of that happening. Only way KSI leaves that ring IF he gets the balls to fight Jake would be on a stretcher straight to the hospital. That's an inevitable outcome.

well if jake beats him fair and square then he won’t react like that but if it’s a robbery then he will

i agree. i think he realises that jake is going to keep getting better. its a waste of time to chase this fight if its hard to agree on terms. it won't happen because he can't chase a man down for a fight forever. jake will keep fighting mma guys but remember he has 5years experience he could fight better oppenents.

​@@Vengeance622cap

The misfits scene is largely built around the social media/entertainment aspect cuz that drives the attention and numbers which is why they say misfits is it’s own product within the space. It’s all about the storylines and drama which drive the fights imo, people can call it a circus and complain about it fake and being a joke with no authenticity but they market has changed since 2018 and meeting the market standards is key

That doesn't make any sense. Influencer boxing is already pretty much dead. We need final nail to send it off and that nail is ksi Vs Jake but ksi still can't grow a pair and get his big boy pants up

@@eachypinky118you acting like Jake already agreed to terms 😂 both Jake and jj can’t compromise. Equally their faults

@@puglife8686 except he did and ksi made excuse that he's not big draw blah blah, I need a break. Just the usual excuses to wiggle his way out without looking like a duck to his deluded fanbase

@@eachypinky118 I generally don’t know how u can think KSI is ducking rn?

@gottabouncebro447 haven't checked what's going on and don't care about this bs

thats not a fact thats your opinion..

​@@officialdownload4that is a fact and you can only pretend to not see it

@@eachypinky118 how can it be a fact if he’s only lost to Tommy Fury( controversial), you guys just say anything without any actual reason.

@@officialdownload4 it's about overall behaviour not about reaction to the loss 🤦

@@officialdownload4 show me where I said it’s a fact?

he has what it takes, he just doesn't want it or need it. why should he risk himslef to build ksi's company when he himself is not building it

Deji isn't a hub. On paper he is but in reality he isnt. The fousey fight blew up because Deji had lost every single fight he had had in the past 5 years. Now he's beaten fousey and swarmz. No one really cares what he does next

@@ElPatrondel Worded perfectly

​@@ElPatrondeli disagree

agreed plus outside of youtube and boxing, is he doing anything? working with any brands etc? what does he bring other than his current audience and ksi audience? tbh tho majority of ksi audience also watch deji so ksi could push the numbers on deji's behalf lol if he does become the face of misfits once ksi steps aside@@ElPatrondel

Bro stop💀 "mockery to the sport" what are you 80?

"Mockery to the sport" yet you sat down like a btch and watched the whole entire event like a fan 😂😂😂😂💀

​@@imdaking9448when you have someone hugging more than boxing and also having a grown man spreading wide in the middle of the ring. It's a mockery, Stan.

​​@@PMraz Tbh I'm not going to lie your not wrong Danis vs Logan was awful to watch all that promotion for complete shit show 😂😂

​@@michaelogbuabiaboth of the main event fights were lame af. I was even considering to pay for it but im great full that i didn't. Its either JJ vs Jake or there is no point to watch these goofballs

ngl u put it perfectly there, now thinking of it, it has to happen this year if they want someone else to take the spotlight after ksi imo. The rest of the guys in the scene (slim, kenny, gib, deji. salt, deen etc) dk if they will have their big fight this year and fans may lose interest in them so if KSI jake happens this year, ksi moves on from misfits and it sets the path for the next potential star who will already have the attention around them. I think it will be Deen if he is active this year cuz of his character, it could be Deji if he is active and promotes. People are saying Slim but idk, unless he brings in sponsorships and brand deals, I doubt it plus in his division what other attention grabbing fights are there other than a potential salt rematch?

Gib isn't a big draw he literally made nearly the whole crowd dissappear when he fought mcbroom

​@@elishawilliams2480 like I said if he was active on social media and KZfaq it would make a difference

Ok lsi stan

This!

I’ve accepted it’s not happening.

Especially as high pace KSI is. Slim will be in fact gassed within 2 rounds. Still wish we couldve seen it instead of Temper.

I mean ya slim natural weight class is 160 lmao and ksi is 180

@@Mikkeruwe would of if Tom zanetti’s last two opponents didn’t pull out probably

agreed, that's why I think this year mams needs to focus on building and elevating the next potential stars beyond ksi (slim, salt, deen, deji etc) and push for KSI Jake this year and if that cannot happen then at least they can go into 2025 with a set of potential stars if they spend this year really building their brand, presence etc, branch them out to work with other brands, get sponsorships etc.

@@username2828 100% and he needs to start by putting these potentials star as their own main event like we cant have deen and salt on ksi undercard all the time cause people will only watch ksi but by slim salt etc headline their own card will be a right step foward

yeh agreed, I say by end of next year it's over unless some miracle happens and the numbers keep growing. Reason why it's stagnating the way it is, is because roster has not grown the way they anticipated and the quality of talent is just not it. They act like they only select based on set criteria but you can tell they don't care about quality and just quantity imo. Apart from the fan favourites (ksi, deji, slim, deen, kenny, salt, and potentially AT) what stars do they have? They ain't built up the talent in the right way imo and they are paying the price, if they think of a good strategy for this year they could be back on track but with the way things are going unless they branch out to crossover fighters/mma fighters fighting on the shows I don't see them lasting till the end of next year

yeh now it don't make sense, back then it did for the misfits scene but if we talking ksi vs Jake, then a slim fight should not be in the picture. But I do think Mams should focus on building slim more and giving him some good opportunities this year, he is a fan favourtie within the misfits scene, held the LHW and now MW belt so can use that as a storyline along with his wins etc but who is there in that division that is a good opponent and will hook the fans?

You must be new to the scene 😂

@@zariffrost53 🤡

@@zariffrost53Hassem is right

@@rogerhof2495 how?

Overall from all the talks that have been had, it’s right to say KSI ducked the most, however, before the Jake tommy loss, the fight was essentially ready to be announced (catch is only if Jake had won) the date was agreed on, weight agreed on, venue was even booked, they even had the card nearly ready with a mvp x misfits collaboration. And when Jake lost to Tommy, Jake literally said “nah don’t wanna do it I wanna fight Diaz”

183 with rehydration is a bit KSI-biased. Make it 185+ with rehydration or 183 with no rehydration. Must not happen under PBA though. Would allow KSI to excessively clinch himself to a victory. A fight of this magnitude should be a proper pro fight, nothing less.

10lb rehydration clause? it's like jake is allowed to balloon up to 193? it's pretty much like having no rehydration clause lmao

@@accountnew7030no lol Tommy had went to 200

@@therealhb1763 and you've seen that where exactly?

​@@accountnew7030 Are u dumb ksi said multiple times him Vs Tommy has no rehydration clause which means he bloon upto 200lbs plus

Ksi meatrider still made at wade 😘

@@nodruj8681 meatrider? I could care less about any of them. Just know drama when I see one

​@@gallistik6956sounds like you know nothing on this situation tho. Wade has not bad blood with misfits or mams even ksi for that matter. He is giving praises where deserved and so does he give critics where deserved

@@eachypinky118 like I said I couldn't care less, this situation has made the public (same as MAGA and it is not politic). The boxing world copied the format and they are doing good business in Saudi and influencer boxing cannot even claim the benefit

Exactly this, I think it comes down to the fighters doing more than just turning up on fight week. Misfits this year should invest in helping the roster grow and explore other avenues outside of misfits to help grow their profile, perhaps working with brands, bringing in sponsorship deals etc. It's those things that will help it last imo. Plus, u can tell the roster has not grown in the way they anticipated hence why you are seeing random names fighting especially on the upcoming non ppv event this month. I think when they have randoms fighting, they should invest in creating content in the leadup to get the fans asking questions, getting engaged etc. People say how Mams should get influencers from LA etc as that will bring in a new audience but let's be honest. these guys already have money and they ain't going to put aside their schedule to fight regularly on misfits, it will be a one time thing then back to usual for misfits. I think the only reason the UK non ppv shows have been doing well is because it's been fighters the fans enjoy or are familiar with, I have enjoyed some of the recent non ppv cards but this upcoming one idk how to feel about it, seems like a short notice mash up ngl

What , its either Jake or he better off staying retired

lmao this was his pan for 2023 only to go fight Tommy then lose and retire

@@SammyPebbles yeah but the more he fights the better always exciting when he’s boxing

@@JonathanVegaa god you just said Jumping Jacks clinch man excitng was exciting when he's boxing 😬

They won’t sell 500k ppv that’s a star. Floy with Debi only sold 100k and that’s Floyd

@@therealhb1763 I don’t think there was interest in that fight ngl, atleast not from people I know, like it was very obvious what was gonna happen, i think if deji and gib fought and had a prime card type atmosphere then it could do numbers, but idk honestly I just think he sells more than the other guys

Idk deji also kinda sucks at promoting. He used to be really good during the Jake fight times but since then he’s been kinda quite and uninteresting in the lead up imo

Nah don’t think deji is that big enough to be the face, plus from a business perspective what will deji bring? Not working with any brands etc, just will have the eyes from ksi nothing beyond that

@@Leeyung2 Yeah in a vid Deji said he stopped promoting loudly like before because he kept on losing LMFAO

Ksi fans always so delusional about everything

@@Leeyung2it’s cause he don’t talk trash anymore cause he lost too many times in a row so he learned to stay quiet ever since fighting fousey