Just did this to my 1290 SA. 10k miles, 2016. Oil was nasty. Filter also disintegrated. Cleaned and put it back in without the filter. Light taps with a t-handle hex wrench to seat seal. Used 20wt oil. HUGE difference. Feels like a different bike. It tipped in very fast previously (more than my other bikes), now it is much more stable and predictable. And that was just around the block at low speeds. I'm sure higher speeds will also better. If you're wondering about this, just do it! Thanks Mario.
@Raptor58559 Жыл бұрын
Thank you that helped a ton! And thank you for the comment's who told how to get the seal in. Let me summarize: I made sure that the metal rod is pulled all the way to the opposite side of the seal The zip tie is cut to about 2cm (1") I placed a 13mm deep socket onto the rod It really doesn't take much force when tapping the socket with a hammer to get the seal in When tapping rest it on the mount not on the joint - otherwise you would apply force in the same direction as you used to get the seal out
@LiveToBike910 күн бұрын
Awesome, that was so easy. I had 15w sitting around, its feels better but i think eventually go to 25-30
@rhino9415 жыл бұрын
On my 2017 KTM 1290 SAR (11000 kms), the front tyre is Anakee Wild. When accelerating hard it has always wobbled like a snake. Same when I am behind a Truck on the highway. Thinking I have nothing to loose I followed the steps on your video and OMG what a difference it did. Now its almost completely stable. I am very grateful for your videos in general but this wins the price. Big thanks Mario! Oh, and the tip pushing down a "tie down strap" :) to let some oil out was simply marvelous! BR /Johan from Sweden
@2WR5 жыл бұрын
Johan, happy to hear it worked for you!
@cmlago5 жыл бұрын
Muy bueno tu video. Son de mucha utilidad. Gracias! Saludos desde Argentina!!
@robertcabot74664 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience, it went really smooth!
@mieskalustoa9732 жыл бұрын
Came to say just the same!
@Whos-That-Guy5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Literally just did this on my 1190, took longer to go to the store and buy the oil than it did changing the oil. Haven't had a chance to test it yet cos the weather is lousy here in Melbourne Aus but I hear it's worth the small investment. The filter disintegrated on mine so i've installed it without it which I can't imagine being a major issue, so I might just service it with every oil change.
@2WR5 жыл бұрын
Got another email from someone today who did it and said it made a big difference. You'll have to let me know once you get to ride it.
@Whos-That-Guy5 жыл бұрын
@@2WR Took it for a quick ride today. My bike wasn't very good a U turns and generally a bit sensitive a slow speed manoeuvrability and that has differently improved. I don't feel like the bike drops in like it did. It's more predictable. Can't comment on high speed but I didn't really have a problem with that anyway. Absolutely worth doing, just wish I didn't have to buy 1lt of oil and only use 5% of it.
@2WR5 жыл бұрын
glad to hear it helped. what weight did you end up using?
@Whos-That-Guy5 жыл бұрын
@@2WR I put 15w but I should have used 20w.
@jean-philippepairoux11084 жыл бұрын
Bonjour, merci Mario super vidéo pour réalisé cette modification soit même.
@oeggo5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tutorial, been meaning to do that to my bike, good to know the steps now. Can't do it until next week, so I'll be waiting your updates after the upgrade.
@2WR5 жыл бұрын
Expect the update on Thursday. Already put 575 miles on it since the rebuild.
@robsea80884 жыл бұрын
@@2WR Where is the update? Did you have the time to upload it?
@bensto89792 жыл бұрын
Tip. Make sure shaft is pulled out all the way, when reinstalling the seal. This ensure there is no pressure build up.
@chucho5742 жыл бұрын
Saque el filtro que dices y todo se hizo polvo...afecta que la pieza del filtro quede así?
@stephenpatton86904 жыл бұрын
Circling back with you after doing mine, Mario. I wanted to share my experience. First off, dont use two kitchen forks instead of buying some snap ring pliers (possibly the only tool in the world that I DONT have). You will stab yourself in the thumb - ask me how I know as I can be a real dumbass). My 2018 SAS has 16,000 miles on it. I noticed that, on the rare occassions that I put a rack and panniers on it (usually go with the kriega system that is MUCH lighter, I would get some nasty speed wobbles under hard acceleration. This bike has balance point that is very forward; as such, it just makes things wonky as hell to put a ton of weight on the back if you ride it like the beast that it is, on the street, as I do. I followed this vid and went with 20wt oil instead of the 15wt. Folks, I was shocked at the difference that it made to the handling of this machine when heavily loaded. Mario, thank you!
@2WR4 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear it made a noticeable improvement for you. Now put down the fork and get a pair of snap ring pliers!
@stephenpatton86904 жыл бұрын
@@2WR Other than the expense, what is your take on the scotts dampener for our bikes?
@billysantiago12514 күн бұрын
Question. Would a steering damper failure cause a slight wobble on the front end?
@2WR3 күн бұрын
Won’t cause a wobble but will allow the wobble to be worse.
@AllMotoTireLLC Жыл бұрын
So I just finished installing new fork seals and guide bushings. Of course to do that the steering damper fork collar has to come off. I put the bike back together, but I must have the collar rotation wrong, as the forks steer completely to the left side but not to the right side. What's the alignment trick before tightening the fork collar pinch bolt?
@nickc56334 жыл бұрын
Great video mate, got a 790 Duke which has a bit of a reputation for a shaky head, sure enough the factory oil that came out was very thin & pretty grubby, followed your method and worked an absolute treat 👌
@yingzhong47323 жыл бұрын
Nick C, ive got the same bike. What viscosity of oil did you use?
@nickc56333 жыл бұрын
@@yingzhong4732 hey mate I went for 15 W
@yingzhong47323 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@asribamadhaj23443 жыл бұрын
Hey Nick, can I ask how much oil you had to put in for the 790 duke steering damper?
@nickc56333 жыл бұрын
@@asribamadhaj2344 Hey mate sorry for the VERY late reply ! Just check out the vid, just visually fill it to the top and be ready with the kitchen roll
@shawnclements144 жыл бұрын
How do you push the seal all the way back in there? Edit: a 14 mm deep well socket worked great. I also used 30w fork oil and it works great. Super smooth and I can still hit a u turn in 2 parking spaces.
@2WR4 жыл бұрын
Glad you got it figured out and that it's working well for you.
@Raptor58559 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Near2Future6 ай бұрын
Mine doesn’t wanna come / slide apart when tapping it with a hammer lol any suggestions? (Edit - I fixed this. If it doesn't wanna drive out. Use a heat gun on low or a hair dryer, heat around where the rubber would be. 3-4 inches away from the paint do this for 10mins & it should drive right out!) I have 22k miles on my 2019. So, will be intresting to see if I see any changes. Will update this once i've been out :)
@Budschidau5 ай бұрын
Wondering if I shall rebuild my steering damper at my 1190 ADV R. Bike runs stable up to 250kph with Dunlop Meridians. Love the easy handling now, think it will be sturdier with steering damper?
@chuckb337 Жыл бұрын
My experience for bleeding: (Maxima fork fluid is clear- so you can see the micro bubbles). Bleed the bottom 1" first (under the piston). Fill cartridge from a small cup or syringe as not cause any bubbles. Slowly move piston towards the top, then rotate shaft 180 deg and return to bottom. Wait/ repeat until no bubbles. Most important: Prime the bronze guide & the inside of seal with oil (to displace the air), as to not install the air otherwise captive inside the seal. Install seal with the bleeder wire/ zip tie like on videos. The OEM is a quality assembly for most applications. Note: All to be done carefully, and the KTM manual supersedes anything suggested here .
@EstebanAGaido5 ай бұрын
The best way to purge bubbles... is of course, to go up and down several times... but the best is to let the oil rest and stabilize!!! About half an hour rest and all the bubbles will go up and go away. Cheers!
@PropDusting6 ай бұрын
Where did you buy the rebuIld kit? Did it come with new filters, o-rings, oil seals and all?
@Westside7be4 жыл бұрын
4:12 oooh yeah, get those bubbles out :D
@mvellido Жыл бұрын
I have a question, do you know where to get the repair kit? I mean the filter and seals?
@abdullahkhan66049 ай бұрын
I have duke 790 same steering stabilizer. took it off the motorcycle cleaned it took out the snap ring. knocked arm part which attaches to the fork. The seal on the other side is not ready to budge. have been knocking it for sometime now. Any suggestions how to get it loose??
@susanMarkle5 жыл бұрын
Now I know why I have trouble using a wrench...….I just didn't have my cap on right. ;-}
@xltman8 Жыл бұрын
Hello!! Curious how well the 15w oil helped or did it make any difference..??
@roybatty-4 жыл бұрын
Bruh, I tried this upgrade. Spent 30 minutes trying to get the C clip out WITH SNAP RING PLIERS, threw in the towel, bought a Hyperpro.
@nickc56334 жыл бұрын
They're lovely but presumably you had to sell a kidney ?
@IIIMPowa5 ай бұрын
Hi, someone knows the exacts sizes of the seal+protect seal (blue part)?
@Bulgie2 жыл бұрын
I'm looking to find the seal and the filter as mine need to be replaced. You did a great job on the video. Any recommendation where to find the seal and the filter? Thank you for your time I appreciate it.
@2WR2 жыл бұрын
Gonna have to measure and see what you can find online (or in shop) that fits its.
@Bulgie2 жыл бұрын
@@2WR thank you. Ordered one online and it arrived today. Gonna see if it works. Appreciate your time.
@mattdunbar48295 ай бұрын
@@Bulgiewhere’d you get it?
@davidmurchie5346 Жыл бұрын
What was the weight of the factory oil?
@slackJocks4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mario I've done the rebuild and all went perfectly, just one small thing the steering lock doesn't seem to be working great, I can almost move the handle bars to perfectly straight even though the lock is on. Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks Phil
@2WR4 жыл бұрын
Philip, glad it's working for you! As for the steering lock, it's something I never use, not only on this bike but never really used them on any bike. So not going to be much help in this case.
@philipdarnall7873 жыл бұрын
Thank you....that's what she said.
@stephenpatton86904 жыл бұрын
How many road miles would you suggest the interval on this being? Any thoughts on 20 wt instead of 15 wt? Thanks!
@2WR4 жыл бұрын
Can’t say on intervals since I went over 30k between trying. 15 works for me. Other prefer 20
@Jptrs1985 Жыл бұрын
Hey, which wt oil do you recommend for mostly off road riding?
@2WR Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t go heavier than 15
@rubberskilla29915 жыл бұрын
Did you just completly fill up the damper all the way? Thanks
@2WR5 жыл бұрын
Not completely. Kinda guestimated where up to the area where the screen, seal and washer would go.
@peterchown15525 жыл бұрын
Good informative clip Mario, have been thinking of doing this job on my 16 SA, how many miles is the bike up to now just as rough guide for me ?
@2WR5 жыл бұрын
31k. I plan to post a video on Thursday sharing my thoughts on the differences it made since I put 575 miles on the bike Saturday.
@peterchown15525 жыл бұрын
2 Wheeled Rider great I’ll be looking forward to your verdict.
@lynolad3 ай бұрын
You literally didn't show the only part I tuned in for 😂 how to get the seal back in & circlip it's being a right bitch to me
@robertxxl44945 жыл бұрын
does anyone know where to buy the parts?
@2WR5 жыл бұрын
Which parts?
@robertxxl44945 жыл бұрын
2 Wheeled Rider rubber semering the blue circle
@2WR5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I don’t believe WP/KTM sells anything over than the whole unit. Since they are nothing more than a rubber seal I would bet they could be sourced at a place like Fastenal or a similar business. I have a POC at Fastenal so I’ll reach out.
@robertxxl44945 жыл бұрын
2 Wheeled Rider thank you for your answer. you are exceptional
@04azgoat5 жыл бұрын
Mario, Is this recommended at a certain interval in the service manual?? Thanks for the video!
@2WR5 жыл бұрын
There is no service interval (or even servicing it at all) in the service manual. IMO it should be. It's made a big difference.
@04azgoat5 жыл бұрын
2 Wheeled Rider rock on!!! I’ve only got 3k on the odonof my SA-T, will be taking a 2k mike trip to Yosemite next month. Perhaps I’ll change it out after that trip. Most certainly before my Alaska trip next year!!!
@genedhallinc5 жыл бұрын
I'm 59 and over the years, steering damper prices have become ridiculous. I'll do this, my 2017 GT only needs a little more dampening.
@2WR5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, those aftermarket ones are high dollar.
@nicholaschai44585 жыл бұрын
I don't know bout 1290 SAT, but my previous 1190 adv will wobble at high speed, but after rebuild the damper and swap with heavy oil, it actually improve a lot but my damper filter were all destroy the time i pull it out. I jz put it in without the filter. 😁😁😁
@iismatthew1235 жыл бұрын
New camera/lens? Video looks crisp!
@2WR5 жыл бұрын
Good eye! New lens
@whistlersoldcow3 жыл бұрын
Hei, is it normal if there is looseness in the connection between the bolts?
@2WR3 жыл бұрын
Gonna have to explain what you mean.
@mts9825 жыл бұрын
Please redo the intro, too many back in the garage slices.
@2WR5 жыл бұрын
You must be new around here. Welcome! Pro tip: FF 9 seconds
@JesterOnTwo5 жыл бұрын
2 Wheeled Rider love your ITG series intro don’t change a thing