It is so nice and refreshing seeing someone actually take a big ADV offroad. So tired of seeing everyone constantly bash anything heavier than 250 pounds as being unable to offroad.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for that ;-) At least this was my way in to riding some off-road - it is a lot of fun on such a big ADV bike but I am open to try lighter bikes in the future too ;-)
@48jerrybiker3 ай бұрын
Depends how ruff the off-road section is. Some areas, unless your a pro rider, is to heavy.
@Gofr53 ай бұрын
@48jerrybiker Yeah. The super gnarly single track stuff I agree. But some people make it seem like you can't even go on a dirt or gravel road with anything heavy. It's silly.
@johanballin6601 Жыл бұрын
It is such a rare pleasure to come across honest reviews. Most reviews are either too positive and, thus, seem more like an advertisement or just a bunch of nonsense anyone can find in a spec sheet. Real world experience and knowledgeable honesty is golden. You helped me decide on my next Adv!Thank you!!!
@MotoVibes Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Johan - I am glad you found this useful. The original 30k km review is in this video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ntCGY7Wa0rKmqps.html if you are interested. At the end of last year I traded my 2020 1290 Super Adventure R for a 2022 1290 Super Adventure R - I haven not ridden it much over the winter but here are my initial throughts on the 2021 model when it just came out kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bKh3fLVm1dDNZqM.html - cheers, Oliver
@alessandrogagliani6913 жыл бұрын
started following you just because you were in possession of this bike, and in fact I bought it. Now I hope to enjoy myself like you did, hello, Gallo from Italy
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Well, thank you very much and thank you for letting me know ;-) I am sure you will 😉
@DaveDayve3 жыл бұрын
Yep same here, same reason why I started following u. I had a 1290s exactly the same. I'll still follow u also... Naturally ☺
@orpaztron3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations for the upgrade mate. The R model in my opinion will make your ride easier in off road and you will not suffer on the road. I replaced my KTM Adventure (1090 S) with the Husky 701 Enduro and the difference exceeds the expectation. Now I can't cruise at 150 km / h on highways and go 600 km per day but with a windshield and an aftermarket seat one can ride for hours at 120-130 on the road. I don't want to travel on pavement any more and the benefit while off-road riding is enormous. Enjoy your new machine -Ride Safely!
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much - sounds like a very good choice for the type of riding you do. The 701 is also easily 100 kg lighter than the big 1290 .- that alone make a major difference
@skiterbite3 жыл бұрын
I rarely subscribed to channels however watching your channel tonight was enlightening. Thank you for all the behind-the-scene hard work it takes to produce these videos! Best wishes to you.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words Dan 😉 I am glad you enjoy the videos 👍
@nikoszaios57233 жыл бұрын
It was just a matter of time for you my friend to go for the R,enjoy the mountains and keep on riding!!!!
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
You got that right! Thank you very much Nikos!
@Kaysersoza3 жыл бұрын
@@MotoVibes I think you are doing a BIG BIG MISTAKE. The 21 on bike about 250kg is a stupid fact. Is too high bike. You will pay a lot of efficacy on street for a little better on off. Try it before buy
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
@@Kaysersoza Well, I still have the smaller 17/19 wheel set - which I will equip with road tires - that should help ;-)
@stathiszoumpakis3 жыл бұрын
I wish we had the privilege to ride on the greek mountains every time you ride like you Niko. Here in Europe is almost everywhere strictly forbidden. Also you cannot find any Evrytania-Agrafa or the others trails you know for sure. Here we have to search a lot and to drive far away to get this feeling. I suppose you understand that speaks only the nostalgie.
@nikoszaios57233 жыл бұрын
@@stathiszoumpakis For sure I can understand you,I really can not imagine someone telling me do not ride here or there,but nevertheless keep on riding wherever you are!
@fabiena17873 жыл бұрын
Hi ! It seems the R was a no brainer for you. It had to happen at some point. I wish you many more great adventures with your new bike.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Fabien! I am so excited that the season is now finally starting but I still do not have the R yet - next week I hope ;-)
@abdulazizaleissa6283 жыл бұрын
Hope that you get even more fun times with the new R model ...thanks alot for the videos you are making about this beautifull bike you have inspired me and now because of you i am a ktm 1290 sas rider 🌹 hope that next year conditions will get better and we can meat at germany some time . Thanks . From kuwait 💐
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! It is really nice to see where everyone is from - such a large world and everyone is dealing with the same issues right now - I hope we get to travel again freely soon. Thank you for watching und your support 😉
@pierreschmale3 жыл бұрын
Da ich selber die S fahre, fande ich es immer sehr interessant, wie vielseitig das Bike doch ist! Deine speed run Videos auf der Straße haben mir eigentlich immer am besten gefallen. Mittlerweile fahren schon so viele KZfaqr auf Schotter, gerade in den Westalpen! Auf der Straße konntest du dich immer gut absetzen von den anderen, mit deinen wirklich guten Videos. Aber Hauptsache du bleibst ktm treu und ich bleibe deinem Kanal natürlich auch treu! Bin schon sehr gespannt auf die neue und auf deine kommenden Abenteuer🙂 Viele Grüße Pierre
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Vielen Dank Pierre - ich werde auch weiterhin noch auf der Straße fahren - dafür gibt es einfach auch zu wenig Off-road Strecken. für die schnelleren Sachen hab ich ja noch den 17/19" Radsatz - der bekommt dann halt Straßenreifen ;-) Wobei mich schon mal interessiert ob man die R mit den dicken Rädern auch auf der Rennstrecke fahren kann 😂
@pierreschmale3 жыл бұрын
@@MotoVibes dann bin ich ja beruhigt 😅😎👍 Original wirst du wahrscheinlich die ax41r drauf machen. Laut dem Wolf bringen die keine volle Traktion auf die Straße😅 Aber wie auch bei Stollen 🤷♂️😅
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
@@pierreschmale 😂
@patrickcooper96413 жыл бұрын
Hello Oliver, I think it was time for you to "upgrade" to the R version! You went through a lot of "learning" with this bike. You became such a better off road rider, so now is time to have what you will feel is a better version! Cheers and congratulation on your new purchase!
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Patrick - I am really excited how I will get along with the much taller R version of this bike - I have ridden so little this season that I could leave for a 4 trip tomorrow if I could - anyway- I am back with the Enduro Action Team tomorrow for a one day traing and my first day in the dirt this year. Also with the R model but not mine but the 2021 1290 Super Adventure R - curious to see how this will compare to the predecessor. I cannot spend the night due to covid restrictions so its going to be a very long day tomorrow as I will have to get their in the morning, ride the whole day and make it back home 😂
@patrickcooper96413 жыл бұрын
@@MotoVibes Enjoy your day with Enduro Action Team and take it easy riding back home! How far do you need to go? Cheers
@bradleyalexander58213 жыл бұрын
Every great story has a beginning, a middle, and an ending. Kinda sad for you too, but super exited for the new steed. You’re a serious motorcycle enthusiast, so I know as a subscribed viewer, we’re in for an exciting future with the channel. 🎩-Tip for choosing the heavily discounted 2020. (wow 5000 euros 👍🏼) so my Friend.....Ride Safe, Ride Often. 👍🏼 😎 🇺🇸 🌎
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I just got back from a full day of riding with the Enduro Action Team and hope to have new videos ready to show soon. It was with the new 2021 1290 SAR - a great bike ;-)
@Lenek80053 жыл бұрын
Wow man, I also dream about the R version. I envy you a little, but in a good way. I wish you all the best and I am asking you for a video of how you unpack or buy a motorcycle. It is so emotional for me how someone is enjoying a new bike. I will also buy a new KTM 1290 SAR in the future.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I rode the 2021 1290 SAR the whole day for the first time and it was a great experience. I may consider buying it some day but the price difference to go for the 2020 was just too much especially as it would be even harder to keep dropping a 20k EUR motorcyle all the time. I hope to get out a video on today's experience soon.
@gaborgyorkos86243 жыл бұрын
Congrats,and good luck with your new bike I love my SAR😍(2020)
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much - I cannot wait to get mine ;-)
@mac46rr3 жыл бұрын
Phew! Thought you might defect to a GS 😆😆 Congratulations on the R 😁😎🏍🧡 Look forward to some epic off road vids. 😀👊
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
nah - not quite yet - I am sticking to KTM for a while 😁
@D-Stealth3 жыл бұрын
Hi Oliver. Your KZfaq channel was the last straw for buying KTM SAS two years ago. But from the beginning of the current season, I am thinking of changing it to the R version. I also began to drive off-road. And now I am watching this video. Looks like I have no chance. :)
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your comment - that is very nice to know. I had a whole day on the new 2021 KTM 1290 SAR - just got back from the Enduro Action Team just now. The R is awesome - the suspension so much better than on the S model. I assume the supension between the 2020 and the 2021 so not that much different. I hope I have descent video clips for a good video on the new R model and the training today. Nice to be back in the game after a long pause of riding ;-)
@BazzerObama3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your reviews, it’s always a sad day when we part with a bike that we have created so many great memories with......here’s to your new KTM and the start of more great memories being made 👍
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Well said! Thank you very much! Of course I will take you along on the journey 😎
@creedm30403 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the reply. I am looking forward to seeing the new bike. Best!
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
You will - in the upcoming video ;-)
@Ozzy416183 жыл бұрын
Big congratulations mate, enjoy
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much 😀
@garzktm3 жыл бұрын
I took your same decision after some trips, daily use and offroad use and I totally agree with your feelings about the S, can't wait to ride the new R!
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Every day of wait seems like an eternity right now ;-) Still do not have the new bike yet
@garzktm3 жыл бұрын
@@MotoVibes same for me I ordered the bike already more than 2 weeks ago and sold my S to a guy one week ago, then no bikes at home, and it makes me more upset because lockdown in Italy is finished and I can't enjoy it!
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
@@garzktm well, I hope I can travel to Italy soon too ;-) I should get mine tomorrow if everything goes well
@garzktm3 жыл бұрын
@@MotoVibes save my contact and if you come to Italy (near Coast French border) I'll show you some itinerary around here and obviously we can do again the salt way... Both of us with a proper bike ✊
@robhahn74223 жыл бұрын
Good choice to go for the R! I had the 1290S for 2 years and changed in March to the new 890 Adventure (‘s’). I like it specially to try more offroad in the Alps, like you did. Enjoy your new KTM. Stay safe and healthy.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Rob! I can see why you opted for the 890 Adventure- I just came back from the Enduro Action Team just now and I initally wanted to the try the 890 Adventure BUT they also had the new 2021 KTM 1290 SAR - so I could not resist and rode the big brother for a whole day. I hope I have enough descent video material to show you soon
@jefftorgerson55353 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the new bike. Looking forward to watching your new adventures.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Jeff!
@rogerschwab35963 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to follow your new advenures with the R! Take care!! I keep riding the S and i agree it is the best bike I had so far. Please keep posting your videos, it is always fun to watch! Roger
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Roger ! Will do! 😎
@stevenwescott14223 жыл бұрын
I had the first year Africa Twin. Good bike, traded for KTM 1090 r really good bike. Last spring bought 1290R. It is nervana. Sooo much fun. You’ll love it too. Just installed the Rottweiler intake and dynojet. Insane.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Way to go Steven! I cannot wait to give the 1290R a first spin - especially in the dirt. 😎
@g000se993 жыл бұрын
I have the 1090, love it. What improvements do you feel after the upgrade to 1290r?
@stevenwescott14223 жыл бұрын
Chris Bewick I like the cruise control and quick shifter. As well as the power. Wasn’t much difference in weight felt a little wider. Both good bikes for sure.
@hedonzx8223 жыл бұрын
Hello, I’ve sold my 2019 SA S model a week ago after 15K on the clock ( should have been more if I had not been in a n accident that kept me off riding for 6 months ) and I’ll pick up the new SA S 2021 model next tuesday 🤗🤗🤗🤗 My offroad riding is limited but I’ve to admit that the R model in its new paint scheme looks wonderful 👍🏻👍🏾 Good luck with your new KTM. I’ve enjoyed your presentations very much Regards and stay safe Frank
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much 😉 Enjoy your new KTM!
@jonasbaine35383 жыл бұрын
No interest in 790 or 890r? The suspension off-road is nearly as compliant as a dirt bike. I guess it depends on how aggressive someone wants to go off-road do decide on 1290 or 890
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Actually I do have an interessent in the mid-class bikes and it is not out of the question I may get one some day. However, I also still ride a lot on pavement where the power of the big brother is hard to pass up right now. If I did a lot more offroad riding the 890 Adventure R would probably be my first choice
@brunogp82693 жыл бұрын
I've tested yesterday the 2021 S model and I loved it. I still prefer the R, but at least in my country the S is better equipped. The only thing I didn't like was the excessive heat I felt from the engine.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Did you buy the S model? I though the heat issue was better now with the split radiators?! I did not get to test this last weekend during my ride with the 2021 R as it was relatively cold that day.
@rogerwilliams29023 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the next chapter , stay safe mate !.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thanks you very much - you too! 👍
@yveskc13 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see your new motorcycle in the next video. 👍
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
You and me both! 😉👍
@KMeyn3 жыл бұрын
Good sum up! Still adjusting to my 2019 S, ridden it a wee over 2k km. Ergonomically it's not perfect, then again what is. Risers now next on the list. I'm still comparing it to my previous bike (BMW 1200GSA). The good old apples & oranges exercise IMO. They're very different in character. The GSA is more comfy, especially at lower speeds. A booster plug did however smooth things out on the S and closed the gap vs the 2021 S (tried it). I think it significantly improved the characteristics of the engine. And would without hesitation recommend the solution to anyone with a 2017-2020 S/R. Done almost all the things you've done with your S with my beemer. It never let me down, even when I went down. Not been on gravel with the S yet. But for my moderate needs I think it'll do fine. Contemplated on getting the R instead, but thought I'd miss creature comforts. Strange those aren't options on both models. We'll see how I fare on gravel roads in Scandinavia. That'll be one of the things to determine the length of my ownership. Cheers.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much - the BMW are great bikes too - especially at low speed in off-road conditions they are hard to beat with regard to handling. Once it gets faster I am looking forward to the R with the bigger wheels and much better suspension. I got a taste of it today at the Enduro Action Team - I rode the 2021 KTM 1290 SAR for a whole day - videos will follow soon
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
oh - by the way - which booster plug are you referring to? the Rottlweiler?
@KMeyn3 жыл бұрын
@@MotoVibes www.boosterplug.com/shop/boosterplug-ktm-1290-545p.html . Doesn't look like they've got one out for the 2021 models.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
@@KMeyn Ah cool - never heard of them - thank you for the tip. Seems like they smooth out the throttle control - sound nice but was not really an issue that I had - unlike with the 2021 model that I rode yesterday. I must have stalled the bike 20 times ;-)
@KMeyn3 жыл бұрын
@@MotoVibes Whilst compared to 1200GSA I think they're rough. Also the 2021. But the plug closed the gap. It's also down to your riding style. I like it in lower RPM so still adjusting to KTMs lower end :)
@lpete5313 жыл бұрын
Congrats on your new bike, can't wait to see it 👍🏽
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you - You and me both!
@shavedape3 жыл бұрын
Subscribed after this (first one I've seen on your channel) because it seems like a cool channel and want to how you like the 2020 1290R. I'd like one too but will keep the 990 for awhile and will also consider the 890R.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your support Brad. I am getting the R tomorrw (if all goes well) cannot wait to ride it ;-)
@lostwheels59513 жыл бұрын
Hey Friend, the correct answer is: I suggest to own the S and R model and a racebike to be ready for all Terrains.We had a fast riding day with the S in double pack. 😂🍺🍺Good luck the new one!
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
I wish I could - add a small enduro and an old school Harley to the line up and I would be very happy - not sure if I even had enough time to ride them all. Hope you are doing well my friend!
@lostwheels59513 жыл бұрын
@@MotoVibes I feel a bit better ! More details on a call ! And yes, time is always the limiting factor. On Sunday I go for two day trip to Hockenheimring riding the BMW M67 again ! In the evening having some beers in pit. There will be no trouble with speeding on track.
@johnhunter87533 жыл бұрын
How awesome for you mate. Keep up the great work. I’m sure the R will be even more awesome for you off-road. Enjoy your new ride. 👍
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much John! Will do and I cannot wait for it ;-)
@zeplin40783 жыл бұрын
Wow Oliver, you had me worried there for a while until you said you are buying another KTM. Cheers! the R version makes sense seeing that you enjoy your off-road so much.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
I was really wrecking my head all winter if i should make the move now I am glad I pulled the trigger and I am excited to finally ride ( I still do not have it yet)
@zeplin40783 жыл бұрын
@@MotoVibes Can imagine like a kid waiting for a present, before you know it, you will be riding your new bike..one must enjoy life to its fullest as long as life allows it.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
@@zeplin4078 indeed ;-) and it will take 1-2 days to get all the accessories back on the bike again ;-)
@g000se993 жыл бұрын
I have the 1090r - she is always begging me to take her off-road. I also have the 690r. The 690 is inferior in every way other than weight. Awesome bike. I was tempted by the 1290 but I really don’t need all those ‘electronic assists’. The 1090r only has traction control and abs. Beautiful bikes
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
and the 1090R is quite a bit lighter too that is a benefit as well - thank you for watching ;-)
@szaneman7913 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the new machine Sir! Hope it serves you well.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much - I am exctited to finally get it. Hopefully next week 😎
@dorian2244 Жыл бұрын
Just bought the 2023 KTM super adventure with a heated seat that sits lower and heated grips with the full tech pack in the USA out the door 20200.00 everywhere else I went they wanted 23000.00 with no heated grips or Seat no tech pack. It was also hard to find any KTM dealer that had a new 2023 in stock I had to drive 2.5 hrs to see one and test ride it
@MotoVibes Жыл бұрын
Excellent- congratulations to your new ride. I bought a 2022 Modell last year at the end of the season 😉
@valleontour3 жыл бұрын
Glückwunsch zum neuen Bike! 🥳👍🏻
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Vielen Dank Valle - hätte ich so ein schönes Fahrwerk bekommen können wie Du für Deine BMW dann hätte ich sie sogar noch ein Weile behalten - so hab ich jetzt einfach das komplette Bike tauschen müssen 😂
@guydumont79043 жыл бұрын
think you made right decision, the R version will be great for you. I finally made testride with the S version, also model from 2020 and about 4500€ less than teh new one....thought some days about it because liked it a lot but was too late, was sold a day before I made my decision so have to find aother one but not so easy in Belgium :( Good luck with the new bike!!
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Guy - the price difference is significant - I hope you can find what your are looking for. Good thing I bought my new bike before I rode the 2021 KTM 1290 SAR today for a full day with the Enduro Action Team - the decision might have been even harder ;-)
@cosmo000133 жыл бұрын
Congratulation on your new purchase and ....Drive Safe!!
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Will do!
@willraven73 жыл бұрын
Thanks always brother. I did the opposite and now have the S (the R off road has a speed limit warning tag because of the rubber band inside those spoke wheels of 100mph) if u go over for long periods they melt that spoke band inside and BLOW OFF THE TIRE...
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
I had no idea - I know the R is speed limited to 225 km/h or something - really bugs me but not much I can do about it - but 100 mph seems low
@mageshmootharunni2 жыл бұрын
Magesh from India. Fist i thaks to you. Your all videos are great and it gives always a next level experience and that will boost up for travel exploration
@MotoVibes2 жыл бұрын
So nice of you - thank you very much ;-)
@black_metallic_fxdls3 жыл бұрын
You made a great decision. You’ve opened so much more for yourself. Look forward to seeing it.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much - I cannot wait to take the bike out for a long ride ;-) Unfortunately my next off-road event for this month was cancelled due to Corona restrictions. Also, we cannot travel anywhere at the moment either - cannot wait for all this to be over!
@black_metallic_fxdls3 жыл бұрын
@@MotoVibes I’m hearing in Germany if you’ve been vaccinated you should be allowed to travel. Regardless, these are crazy times.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
@@black_metallic_fxdls yeah well, not quite - Germany has been very slow with vaccinations - it is just now picking up the pace. Germany is thinking of rolling back restrictions but it will be a few weeks - there are very few people fully vaccinated (2 shots) in Germany - let alone in the age group under 60 ;-)
@black_metallic_fxdls3 жыл бұрын
@@MotoVibes ah. I heard that too. And forgot. My son is half German.
@binalwanvlogs3 жыл бұрын
Good luck and I enjoy saw your adventure have a good time
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much 😉
@stevedenny35473 жыл бұрын
Great way to sign off on the S,looking forward to the new R. Cheers.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Steve! It was a bit of a sad moment to give it away I have to admit - lots of good memories with the S 😉
@OTWW3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the new bike. I'am surprised you didn't go with the 2021, but I get it. I was thinking to trade in, but I concluded that I'am still super happy with my 2017 SAS and paying something like 10K EUR to upgrade wouldn't bring me much more fun, apart from the initial wow of a new bike.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! That is exactly the point - it is a lot of extra cash if you already own the 1290. Also I have loads of accessories - some which are not even yt avaible for the new 1290. BUT I will get to ride a 2021 R model in the dirt tomorrow if all goes well. Let see how much better is really is ;-)
@OTWW3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to hear your view on the difference between R and S both on and off the road. The stage where you are with your riding, your objectiveness and your huge experience with the S will make this comparison perhaps the most valuable one for every one who is looking to decide between getting a S or R. The expectations are now set... No pressure :).
@sylvano19903 жыл бұрын
Congrats! Enjoy your new bike!
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much ! Will do! 😉👍
@Hans_P3 жыл бұрын
Just bought a 2017 SAR. Keeping my Tiger XCx for now. Will see which I like better.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations! Please let us know what you think!
@vaperp.10783 жыл бұрын
Hi, the decision is not clear to me. You're mainly on the road, and an 890 R would have been perfectly adequate for off-road use. Who needs 100 to 160 hp with 240 kg off-road? But you need 170 instead of 150 rear tyres with a full 160 hp on the road, and that's what the S is actually for. I come from the manual suspension adjustment and wouldn't want to have it any more, because everything you adjust is just a compromise, because at some point you don't want to keep clicking around.👍
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
I still spend a good amount of time on pavement and I do long distance travel as well. If my travel would be shorter with a lot more off-road KM the story would be quite different. I do have a smaller wheel set from the S that I will be using with road tires on the R model for all the on-road stuff. The larger wheel set will get knobby tires at some point
@chrismalton19043 жыл бұрын
I Great to see you're staying with KTM, I'm loving the 1290 SA after watching your videos, not sure I'm ready to take it off road though. 😀
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Chris. if you do want to get your feet wet find a place that rents bikes so you do not have to worry about your own shiny bike ;-)
@chrismalton19043 жыл бұрын
@@MotoVibes well I have just bought a Royal Enfield Himalayan 😁
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
@@chrismalton1904 Well, congratulations to your new bike! The lighter weight of the Royal Enfield will be an advantage for off-road riding ;-)
@roberthoney37743 жыл бұрын
Ich bin vor ca. 2 Jahren auf deinen Kanal aufmerksam geworden, da ich auch die S-Version gekauft habe. Über die Zeit habe ich bemerkt, wie du dich weg von der Strasse und mehr in Richtung Offroad fokusiert hast. Von daher ist deine Entscheidung absolut nachvollziehbar. Auch ich sehe deinen Wechsel zum R-Modell mit einem weinenden und einem lachenden Auge entgegen. Ich bin schon gespannt wie es weiter geht und wünsche dir auf jeden Fall einen tollen Start und allzeit unfallfreie Fahrt mit der Neuen!
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Robert - vielen Dank für die netten Worte! Unfallfrei werde ich mir fest vornehmen dieses Mal 😂 Ich bin auch sehr gespannt die R im Vergleich sein wird. Die meisten KM werden ja sicherlich trotzdem noch auf der Straße sein aber so kann ich jetzt Satz Speichenfelgen, den ich für die S als Offroad Radsatz hatte als Satz für Straßenreifen nutzen und werde auch in Zukunft wechseln können.
@Vulcanfighter3 жыл бұрын
@@MotoVibes Du brauchst dazu (wenn es gescheit aussehen soll) noch einen Kotflügel der S und den Höherlegungssatz von Touratech, da die Aufnahmen der R anders sind. Zusätzlich empfehle ich die 46er ABS Ringe, die Marty aus dem KTM Forum herstellt. Dann ist die Tachoabweichung nicht so groß aber der Tempomat geht noch. Ist Dir der egal gibt es auch 44er Ringe. Dann passt der Tacho genau, aber Tempomat geht nicht mehr (alles ausgetestet). Ich habe den Umbau bei meiner R so gemacht und habe jetzt auch 2 Radsätze. Das 21" Vorderrad hat bei Deiner Fahrweise nicht den gleichen Grip wie ein 19" mit 120er Breite. Im Touringmodus egal, aber Deinen Videos nach zu urteilen brauchst Du da mehr ;-)
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
@@Vulcanfighter Björn - super Klasse! Vielen Dank für die vielen guten Hinweise. Ich versuche gerade über meinen Händler die Radgrösse via Software umstellen zu lassen (sollte ja eigentlich gehen) - alternative hatte ich an die ABS Ringe gedacht, dass mit dem Tempomat ist ein super Hinweis -wusste ich nicht. Auch die anderen Tipps - VIELEN DANK!
@Vulcanfighter3 жыл бұрын
@@MotoVibes Der Händler kann die Tachosoftware der S einspielen. Dann hast Du mit den R Rädern aber einen extrem nachlaufenden Tacho und Du willst ja nicht jedes nal zum Händler. Was noch zu beachten ist, ist das TPMS. Erst ein Rad wechseln. 5-10km fahren bis er angelernt ist, dann das 2. Rad. Wenn Du beide zugleich wechselst klappt es nicht.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
@@Vulcanfighter Besten Dank Björn - ich bin mal gespannt ob KTM das hinbekommen - der Teil mit dem Anpassungen der Räder zieht sich gerade. Ich wäre sehr Happy mit der S software - dann ist auch die bescheuerte Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzung der R raus aber ich zweifel gerade ob die das hinbekommen. Alternative wird es dann die ABS Scheibe mit 46 Löchern - ich muss mal ins KTM Forum schauen. Vielen Dank auch für den TPMS Tipp - das hab ich beim ersten Mal natürlich falsch gemacht ;-)
@noworriesau4623 жыл бұрын
...dachte mir beim Titel, „welches Bike wohl deine Wahl sein wird“!? 🙈 Und yess, du bleibst 🍊 treu! 😁 Freut mich sehr, deine Entscheidung. zur neuen R! 👌 Bin dann mal gespannt auf deine nächsten Berichte.... (Power Parts extras, 😏 die ersten offroad Km💨💨 ...ich bleib drann... alles gute mit dem power Gerät🤘
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Vielen Dank - ja, war jetzt keine große Änderung auf den ersten Blick aber die R wird sich wie ein komplett andere Bike fahren und ich freue mich richtig drauf. 😎
@noworriesau4623 жыл бұрын
@@MotoVibes ...ready to race, auf jeden fall💪🏼 Training hattest du ja mit der S 😄
@k.n.v.b11133 жыл бұрын
I have the bike you’re getting . The larger front wheel sucks on toad if you are really going for it when you have a chance at a long strait away. Ktc-80 isn’t the smoothest on road but what do you expect for a tire like that. I would keep those rims and tires some how off the S so you can have the best of both worlds . Enjoy the new bike and thanks for sharing
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your feedback - I did keep the smaller wheel set - I had a second set of spoked wheels that I used for off-road riding and I intend to put road tires on the smaller set eventually and use the 21/18" for off-road riding. I know there is a little more to it than just changing the tires as the speedometer will be off etc. - I guess the side stand will be to long too - minor stuff - I am sure I figure something out ;-)
@k.n.v.b11133 жыл бұрын
@@MotoVibes If they are the original wheel set from the S they should have the sensor and work with the speedo ?
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
@@k.n.v.b1113 Yes, they are original KTM powerparts - the sensor in the rim is only for tire pressure. The speedo uses the ABS ring and converts wheel spin into showing the riding speed. With the smaller diamter wheels the speedo will read faster without adjustment. My understanding is that the adjustment can be made through software in the bike. Plan B is to get different ABS ring (the S und R use the same ABS Ring).
@k.n.v.b11133 жыл бұрын
@@MotoVibes Good to know because I have been thinking of getting a road set for my 2018 R . Great riding out your way ! Hope I can visit one day . Thanks for sharing
@adriaan2k6313 жыл бұрын
Hi Oliver, i bought my SAS 2020 and started to follow your vids with great pleasure. Glad you decided to stay with KTM 💪. You rode a GS previous. Also the GS is part of your offroad team. Did you think about a GS and does it have more offroad capabilities then the 1290 SAS ? Congratulations on your KTM SAR and i hope to see many more great vids.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching - glad to you like the videos ;-) The BMW vs KTM comparison on the off-road capabilities of their big adventure line up cannot really be generalized. The BMW scores well with low center of gravity, smooth throttle & engine response at low rpm and tight steering radius. Despite the heavier weight of the BMW it carries the weight very well. The exposed cylinder heads of the BMW are a liability even when well protected with crash bars (see our Sommelier video from last year). The shaft drive is good for maintenance reason but not very tough - it cannot really tolerate jumps (both wheels off the ground) etc. for extended times. Both offer off-road specific models with better suspension: The BMW adds A LOT weight in their "Adventure" bike but it comes well protected. The KTM is available with 18/21 wheels in the R version. The stock suspension of the KTM is superior to the BMW for off-road riding. For faster riding / more agressive riding the KTM R with better supension & larger wheels will be the better choice. So - it is a toss up really. You do not really have to go fast when riding offroad but when you have to go slow the better handling of the BMW will come in handy. I just rode the 2021 R model and the suspension is a game changer as compared to the S model - I cannot wait to take my R off-road ;-)
@crk582413 жыл бұрын
I went just the opposite direction going from the R to the S. I don't do much off-roading so the best choice for me was the S model. The S is quicker in the top end and is so smooth. I'm happy with my decision.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations ;-)
@shaneolivier16503 жыл бұрын
Good choice,as I am planning ahead also for this bike is going to be very interesting to hear your comments,occasionally I would like to go off-road and camp and long tar road trips,enjoy and looking forward to your comments
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
There will be more content coming up with the R model of the 1290 - unfortunately my next off-road event with the Enduro Action Team was cancelled last week due to covid restriction - maybe I will use the time for some road riding close to home during that time (we still are not allowed to stay over night anywhere in Germany for tourist purposes). Thank you for watching ;-)
@drolli12823 жыл бұрын
Wir sind eine Woche weiter - steht die R schon in der Garage? Bin auf das erste Video gespannt ;-) By the way deine Videos haben mit dazu beigetragen, dass ich mir vor ein paar Wochen eine 1290 SAS zugelegt habe. Ein großes Danke für deine Videos und die harte Arbeit dahinter. Schaue sie mir gerne an; auch mehr als 1 mal...! Oft fehlt mir ein wenig das deutsche darin (hauptsächlich wohl aber, weil ich den ganzen Tag englisch/amerikanisch Rede und Schreibe), aber ich verstehe, dass Du mit englisch natürlich international erreichbar bist ;-) Grüße
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Ich hab die R Mitte der Woche abgeholt- allerdings lief der erste Tag völlig anders als geplant aber dazu später mehr. 😬 freut mich das dir die Videos gefallen
@MrWheely13 жыл бұрын
Top choice, I was afraid you were going to ride the beemer. aahahahah but the R we've already talked about that, and your last trips, that's what the R is made for.... I have a tip for you: put a few Rottweiler Fuel Dongles on it from the beginning so you will stop less at trail trails... top choice and lots of safe kms 👍👍🤘🤘.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I already had the beemer - time for something slightly new and different - it will be the tallest bike I have ever owned - let's see how well that will handle in the dirt - I will have a look at the fuel dongles. thanks for the tip ;-)
@dermaschinist25963 жыл бұрын
Also die Überraschung, die das Wörtchen "sold" in der Überschrift mit sich brachte, währte nur kurz, da mir irgendwie tief drin völlig unzweifelhaft klar war, dass Du Dir wieder eine KTM kaufen würdest. Nach all den Erlebnissen und dem Spaß, den Du mit der 1290er hattest (und wir natürlich beim Zusehen) konnte es eigentlich gar nicht anders sein. Da der Zeitpunkt jetzt kurz nach der Präsentation der neuen Super Adventure gesetzt wurde, dachte ich zwar zunächst, Du würdest Dir sicher die neue "R" (in blau) holen. Dass Dir das Fahrwerk der "S" für den zunehmenden OffRoad-Einsatz zu weich war, hattest Du ja schon öfter bemängelt - so war die neue Ausrichtung also absehbar. Nun ist es doch nochmal das "alte" Modell geworden, was ich absolut nachvollziehen kann. Schließlich habe ich mir ja selbst Ende letzten Jahres zu einem sehr, sehr annehmbaren Preis noch eine der letzte Euro 4-Modelle geholt und eben dieses Argument und Deine positiven Langzeiterfahrungen sprechen nun mal für sich. Gratulation!!!
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Vielen Dank! Die neue ist halt echt noch einmal deutlich teurer - ich bin sie heute den ganzen Tag beim Enduro Action Team gefahren - ist schon ein sehr geiles Bike und die Änderung am Tankdesign und die niedrigere Sitzhöhe sind große Vorteile im Gelände. und dann ist da noch das R Fahrwerk - wahnsinn - so muss das sein ;-)
@creedm30403 жыл бұрын
Do you worry that the R is more prone to tank slap on the highway? Great videos btw I have enjoyed them. Best!
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Well, the added suspension travel does not help with stable high speed riding (above 200 km/h) - with that being said - I think this bike is capped at max speed of 225 km/h I believe ( the S is rated for 250 km/h). This has something to do with tire speed index ratings here in Germany (for the bigger wheels sizes). Lower top speed increases the range of tires that can be used with this bike (don't ask - German regulations do not always make sense ;-) ). I am still within the first 1000 km in the breaking in period so I will not take it up to max speed in the beginning but I am expecting to go at least 200 km/h even with the large wheel set. we will see ;-)
@TR8503 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the new bike. I just subscribed because of the fact that you bought the R version. It happens I just bought the SAR last week, too. Still not registered due to pandemic and sitting at the dealership. I had a 1190 S before. I actually wonder whether the R suspension with the 19/17 wheels would be the best of both worlds for most types of riding and because of tire availability. I am curious to see your reviews of 21/18 vs 19/17 on the SAR. Cheers
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much - as it stand right now the smaller wheel set still has the knobby tires and the new R will come with street tires on the 18/21 wheels. Unfortunatly my May Event with the Enduro Action Team was cancelled today - I hope I can find something else instead- I would be curious to the take 18/21 to the race track too - just for the hell of it ;-)
@thomasg.20553 жыл бұрын
Solange es eine KTM bleibt bleibe ich in deinem Kanal und schaue mit Freude deine Videos... Viel Spaß mit der neuen!
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Hehe - ich denke ich bleibe KTM noch eine Weile treu 😉
@humzilla7073 жыл бұрын
I would love to have one for sport touring only but have no interest in taking a bike that big off road. Seems more practical than duke gt.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely - it is a big compromise to take such a big bike on off-road tracks - but also kinda fun until you drop the bike and have to pick it up 😂 Which I did today - multiple times
@DJohanM3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Did you have extended warranty on the 1290s, is it worth it/ needed? (Normal driving, 90% on street). Thank you gr
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Yes I did! I think it was about 350-380,- EUR at the time. I got it because of the warranty issues I had on my BMW R 1200 GS - I had multiple issues that were fixued during the warranty time - even though it was a pain the BMW service was excellent. However, I never needed anything fixed that was not normal maintenance on the KTM. I will get it again for my new R model - it is good insurance - if you only need it once it will pay for itself or if you sell the bike within 4 years (which I did) you can pass it on with manufacturer warranty -
@DefenderOfTheSlot3 жыл бұрын
Nice bike! Can you tell me what helmet you are wearing? The one with the coloured goggles? Looks cool!
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you- it’s this one kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sLB3dqaLmZuRm3k.html
@casefarley57443 жыл бұрын
Great video. It sounds like the S got you where you wanted to go, and that was to the R. KTM would have it no other way. : ) I look forward to your experiences on the R when you pick it up.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Well said! Thank you very much! I cannot wait to finally get my hands on the R now ;-)
@jamiewillson23502 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@MotoVibes2 жыл бұрын
thank you Jamie
@sudhinkumars79403 жыл бұрын
Hallow...aa a bike enthusiast and a fan boy of you i highly recommend to take the 2021 superadventure S model over the R model. And for better off-road capability can use the ktm powerpart offroad wheels and tyre as you done in this bike. R is good one but misses radar and semi active suspension.and this one is lot lower seat and hav much more touring capabilities extra.That is my recommendation for you...and to change those wheels for beeter offroad. Ok...its R comming...do onething brother...do good off-road include s mud ,sand rock .all...with good camera angles....because noone done it yet on new models.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
I actually just got back from the Enduro Action Team and had the new 2021 KTM 1290 SAR for a full day and got to ride through some difficult stuff (at least fo rme). KTM have really done an amazing job on the new iteration of the 1290 Super Adventure series. The suspension alone from the R model is such a big improvement it is unbelivable. it will be a while before I put the video together on today's ride but it will be coming soon
@diunshin3 жыл бұрын
Natural Evolution, enjoy your new ride. Once you taste off Road ...
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait! I still do not have the bike yet - it is the worst - the WAIT 😂
@diunshin3 жыл бұрын
@@MotoVibes i had the 1190adv s and the 1290 s adv r , i think the 1290 have the same sprockets as the S versión so maybe you need a front sprocket with 1 less teeth in order to have the same engine response as in the S version. Please let me know if you feel a less overhelming throttle response on the R ✌️
@pumrel3 жыл бұрын
I understand your choice. I have the 1190R and it's been amazing off road. It's capable well beyound what I can do with it. The big front wheel might be a downside on road though. Just out of curiosity. I will be upgrading too next season but the occasional fall led to some battle scars. How did you handle that? Did you replace all scraped parts?
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much - I curious on how the larger wheels will handly on the road but I still have a 17/19" set of wheels for extended on-road riding. Yes, I did change out all the scrapped parts - tank panels, crash bars, head light, clutch cover, etc. the bike looks as good as new when it went to the dealer. I also kept the scratchec parts and some will actually be installed on the R model
@MrPaulo14002 жыл бұрын
thank you for this information. I am actually looking for a super adventure r but I am also asking myself if it is worth it to look for a 2022 model or a 2020 model. There are not a lot of 2022 R models in Switzerland and I found 2 good second hand model, one is a 2020 model new and the other one is a 2019 model with a few kilometres on it. I didn't try the 2022 model but I did try a 1090 r and liked it a lot. What would you suggest? Regards.
@MotoVibes2 жыл бұрын
If price is no object the 2022 model has a slight edge over the 2020 model in my opinion- lower center of gravity and lower seat height are great improvements especially if you intend to take it off-road some times. It wasn’t 5000 euros worth in price difference for me. If you know the 1090 R the 2017-2020 will be similar in feel and handling. So if money is no object I would go with the 2022 - if it is the 2020 is still a very capable bike - maybe this first impression helps kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bKh3fLVm1dDNZqM.html
@woitika59833 жыл бұрын
I have traded in my 1090S for 890R, today, I feel sad as well. KTM series 1050-1290 are fantastic bikes.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
The 890 R is a great bike - congratulations ;-)
@woitika59833 жыл бұрын
@@MotoVibes thx :-)
@stephenpatton86903 жыл бұрын
Why I would NEVER buy this AMAZING bike again. Wtf???
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
And I didn’t - I am proud owner of the R now 😉
@stevecade8573 жыл бұрын
You might be better suited to the 890 R but if you got a 1290 R 2020 discounted there is probably not a big difference in price plus you can take some of your current accessories.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
I have though about the 890 R too - not out of the question that I may go down in size one day. I still do a lot of on-road riding and the 1290 series is a lot of fun on pavement. And you are right - if you look at the price tag right now you get a whole lot more bike with the discounted 1290 right now ;-)
@Aldimann0073 жыл бұрын
W0000t?! Aber muss sagen ich habs auch schon überlegt wenns mehr Richtung offroad geht. Oder eben die kleinere Adventure. Aber cool das du Orange bleibst ;). Hattest du noch Zeit für das Video mit den Schäden/Problemen bzgl. Offroad nachdem ich neulich gefragt hab? Wobei sollte ja für die 1290 R ähnlich gelten. Bin mega gespannt auf deinen Eindruck gerade onroad mit der anderen Federung und der anderen Felge vorn.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Ich habe schon Video Aufnahmen dazu gemacht und werde das wahrscheinlich zusammen mit dem Zubehör für die R mit zeigen - die R wird ja noch ordentlich umgebaut, sodass ich mir nicht in Hose machen muss, wenn ich ein nagelneues Bike ständig in den Dreck ablege 😂 Heute war aber erstmal eine Runde Enduro Action Team angesagt und die Fahrt mit der neuen 2021 1290 SAR
@hermannschmidt97883 жыл бұрын
Bin das Modell neulich 2T lang gründlich gefahren. Alles ziemlich geil außer der Scheibe, die ist eine Katastrophe. Ein Mordslärm und Gerüttel am Helm, egal wie ich mich hingesetzt, oder die Scheibe rauf- oder runter gedreht habe. In dem Zustand für mich nicht fahrbar, sonst wär sie gebraucht interessant für mich. Hast du da was gemacht?
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Die Scheibe lässt sich ja einfach ersetzen- mittlerweile gibt es für die 2017-20 Modelle viel Auswahl. Ich habe eine große Givi Tourenscheine und eine sehr kurze Scheibe von Puig- die bin ich ausschließlich gefahren letzte Saison
@petermosk90683 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
👍
@sandrobiaggi5083 жыл бұрын
Bravissimo bellissimi video posti stupendi 👍👍👍
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much 😉
@antonkuzin85443 жыл бұрын
Why haven't you chosen the 790/890r? I doubt 160hp are useful off the road. And, because of 21" front wheel, they aren't really useful on the road either.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
I still ride a lot on pavement and I love the power of the 1290. I still have to see how much the 21“ will be an issue- so far I can hardly tell the difference but I am not riding the alps right now just easy roads.
@antonkuzin85443 жыл бұрын
@@MotoVibes what about highways? In your 1290 SAS review you've confirmed widely mentioned high speed instability. Is it worse on the R model? I mean, why do you need 160hp if you can't go 180+ on autobahn?
@1bikerdude3 жыл бұрын
You'll love the R, as I also own & do ;-)
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to ride it ;-)
@calland13 жыл бұрын
Just traded a tracer 900 gt to the 1290 r for the same reasons! Good luck
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Good choice! 😉👍
@erikboerma3 жыл бұрын
Hi friend, after owning an 1290 sas im also thinking of getting another/second bike. I’ll think i’ll will buy a husky 701 LR (one reason is that i owned a Vitpilen 701, great engine). I was also looking at a ktm 890 but weight-wise that does not make a lot of difference compared to a 1290. Have you als considered a 890 r or what are your thoughts about that one?
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Actually, I did consider the 790/890 - I yet have to actually ride one myself but I am sure it is great for off-road riding due to the much lower weight and once you start looking at single cyclinder bike that gets even better. However, the long distance travel comfort goes down with it. The 790/890 would still be fine I am sure but I will still do a good amount of on-road riding and even try out the R on the race track once I get the chance. I really like the power of the 1290 on-road. If I could have 2 bikes I would probably look at the 790 or lighter to complement the 1290. As a matter of fact Thomas, my ridding buddy, bought himself a 350 EXC and is shreeding up off-road tracks in the Netherlands - he owns the 1190 R and had the 1290 SAS and sold for the 350 EXC as he was not really riding the S model last year.
@erikboerma3 жыл бұрын
I have not really offroaded yet (maybe tey to do a bit of the tet-trail in france this summer) because where i live in holland its mostly paved. I would not want the sheer power of the 1290 so for me is just the question if (or better, when) a second bike. For the tet-trail i’ll think i’ll put on those mitas-tires you used. But, since im planning to do some serious long distance trail (or degraded roadriding) in a few yours, maybe to kirgistan or something, im thinking of a bit lighter and more droppable. Choices choices 😏
@phillipgarfoot98673 жыл бұрын
I'm in my 3rd year on my 1090r love it!
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
very nice! I assume you ride a fair share of off-road tracks with it !?
@phillipgarfoot98673 жыл бұрын
@@MotoVibes no tour,NC 500 ,often on the Yorkshire moors, got pirelli scorpions on now, great bike for touring, 23ltr tank 240miles ,did 1515mls in 6 days on a tour £150 15pence for fuel? I'm 65 now so off road
@phillipgarfoot98673 жыл бұрын
Is hard for me?
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
@@phillipgarfoot9867 wow! thanks for sharing ;-)
@davidandrew3483 жыл бұрын
just a tip from another 1290r owner get a steering damper for off-road and onroad handling performance
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the tip! Which one do you recommend?
@davidandrew3483 жыл бұрын
@@MotoVibes Scotts with the antivibration handlebar mounts or save some money and order the same setup from XRC out of NZ Which I am currently using
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
@@davidandrew348 Thank you for the tip David! Much appreciated ;-)
@zeez90533 жыл бұрын
What do you define as “season”
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
I mean the riding season from spring to fall 😉
@davidbathe41083 жыл бұрын
How sad to say bye bye to such a do anything bike I have gone from the 1190 s To 1090r those couple off inches make it a very tall bike I hope you enjoy sir 🏍
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much - the extra height was and is a bit of concern. I getting a seat custom made to increase the long distance comfort but also to drop the height of the bike - I am curious how well that is going to work ;-)
@davidbathe41083 жыл бұрын
@@MotoVibes please keep me informed I may take the same path
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
@@davidbathe4108 Will do ;-)
@Rubberdust3 жыл бұрын
Where is that: 4:26
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
This is the upper part of the Col de Sommeiller kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Zp1ziNd4nJrdfYU.html
@leventeyuboglu45013 жыл бұрын
what is the list prices over there? 5000 euros discount for left over is very good, if they do similar discount here I could go this direction as well. congrats for the new bike
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Well, that is the price difference between the 2020 to the 2021 model - which I belive is already 1700,- Euro more expensive than the predecessor and now at 19.800,- Euros. Add to this the heated grips, quick shifter and rally mode (I currently use a dongle to keep the MTC turned off for offroad riding) and you are well over 20k. I did have to get the quickshifter again for the 2020 model but I do not have to buy the skid plate again, mirros, levers, radiator guard, Akrapovic exhaust which I can all take from the S model. AND I kept the crash bars and tank panels of the S which I will mount on the new R so I do not have to worry about scratching brand new parts and then replace them again later if I want to sell the bike again
@leventeyuboglu45013 жыл бұрын
@@MotoVibes yes 2020 is no brainer for your situation. 5000 euros is huge anyway even the reusage of assessories not considered. we have no discount here at all so 2021 is no brainer :)
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
@@leventeyuboglu4501 That makes it easy ;-) The 2021 KTM 1290 SAR is a fantastic bike - I rode it the entire day yesterday during a training with the Enduro Action Team. It is still like the old 1290 but improved where it really matters: lower center of gravity which is actually a lot more noticable than I thought it would be, lower seat height was great for me and improved throttle response at low rpm. If the price difference had been much lower or they had been equal in price I would have most likely picked the 2021 model
@slai062 жыл бұрын
Hey, witch suspension mode did you use when off roading ?
@MotoVibes2 жыл бұрын
Most of the time Off-road mode - it’s the stiffest setting. You can get away with sport mode for a little more comfort but you will bottom out faster 😉
@slai062 жыл бұрын
@@MotoVibes thx. I switch between those 2 modes as well on the 1290 T but I can’t decide witch one is the best on « hard » off road
@thepassionofthegoose54723 жыл бұрын
Mine ate a motor after 12 months and 24,000-miles with no help from KTM, even though the issue is more than documented. And yes, mine was expertly maintained and cared for. Maybe if you ride these as weekend toys they're okay, but if you plan to ride it like intended and put serious miles on one they will fall apart and KTM will not lift a finger. Hot garbage that I will never buy again.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that. Others had issues with KTMs service. May I asked where you are from? I have not had anything go wrong so I cannot say how the service would be in this case.
@thepassionofthegoose54723 жыл бұрын
@@MotoVibes I live in the United States, San Francisco, CA to be specific. The dealership was actually very helpful and went to bat for me, which didn't help. KTM has many known issues they keep under wraps (technicians know through service bulletins that are not made public) so that customers don't demand recall/warranty work. One specific issue is the slave cylinder failing on most models which can destroy a clutch and send the parts into the motor (you can guess what happens next). The majority of slave cylinders are quietly changed when a dealership does a valve job, but go unnoticed if you do your own service. Net/net, change your slave cylinder to an aftermarket one ASAP. Buy a service tech a beer and they'll tell you the exact same thing. Cheers.
@4tech693 жыл бұрын
Congrats.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much ;-)
@harunsolmaz72133 жыл бұрын
When riding and cornering on pavement 21 inch front wheel bikes are pain in the ass
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
So I have heard - I will have to try that on my new R but I did keep the 17/19 wheel set which I will keep using with road tires if I plan to stay on pavement
@markworthington1710 Жыл бұрын
Is that a lr2 helmet?
@MotoVibes Жыл бұрын
Mark - it is a Touratech Aventuro Carbon
@petar-boshnakov3 жыл бұрын
Noo, don’t. The easiest fix for a suspension is changing the valving of the forks. It is super cheap and it is night and day difference!!!!!!!
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
My understanding that this is not possible with the semi-active suspension of the S. I could not find a single reference of suspension tuning on the S - so you know of a place that has done this?
@petar-boshnakov3 жыл бұрын
@@MotoVibes I think the active suspension controls the rebound and compression and not the valving ie the shim stacks in the forks. Of course I can be mistaken if not then this is well possible and should be pretty much the same procedure. If I’m not right then… well
@UncleWally33 жыл бұрын
The question for me is how much better is the “S” than the “R” on road (tarmac)?
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Well, the extra suspension travel is not really an advantage on-road but I am sure it can be tuned to be as good as the S suspension. I also kept the smaller wheel set which I intend to use for on-road riding in the future which should keep the handling closer to the S for on-road riding.
@jacobeldredge8033 жыл бұрын
R will be a little more squirrelly and less stable than the s. S also has electronic suspension vs manually adjusted on the r. R will have more adjustment, so could be tuned in well, but will also have a more limited selection of street tires. I have an 1190 s, and haven't taken it off road, but it would do just fine. Onroad it does way better than I'll ever be able to ride it.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
@@jacobeldredge803 I am curious to try it out - I was already expecting that I will not be able to go as fast as with the S when I decided to go for the R. But who knows - maybe fast Autobahn travel still works. It my least favorite type of road to ride on - that is also the reason I like to go fast on it - the sooner it is over the better ;-)
@jacobeldredge8033 жыл бұрын
@@MotoVibes known several people that have always gotten the r, because they do trips to the Colorado rockies fairly regular. They've had no complaints about the roadworthiness. Imo I would rather take a 690 or 890 for that type of riding, and I think the super Adventure is best as a 60/40 bike, which the s setup is perfect for.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
@@jacobeldredge803 with the Rockies at my doorstep I would likely be looking at the mid size adventure bikes too 😎 I am at least 1250 km away from descent off-road riding from where I live. Even descent onroad riding (eg alps) are 800 km away from my home, so long distance (fast) travel features are a bit more important for me with the expense of off-road capabilities- also I am still fairly new to leaving paved roads. At moment I like the variety of riding different terrains. Let’s see what the future will hold.
@TheApexMind3 жыл бұрын
Sooo... do your Offroad spoke rims need a new owner now?
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
Well, i am going to put a set of road tires on the 17/19 set and the 18/21 set will get knobbies 😉
@TheApexMind3 жыл бұрын
@@MotoVibes does 17/19 fit on the R model?
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
@@TheApexMind Yes, no problem. Thomas was riding his 1190 with 17/19 wheels for a long time and it works the same on the 1290.
@sv70173 жыл бұрын
When will you show us your new Pan America?
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
haha - Even though I have a soft spot for Milwaukee Twins the Pan America is going to be a tough sell - the market of adventure bikes is very saturated. I am curious who will actually buy this bike and if they can draw buyers that currently own a different brand of adventure bike. I doubt many will be from the Orange Camp ;-)
@sv70173 жыл бұрын
@@MotoVibes Maybe you could do a testride because I think many would be curious about your views.
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
@@sv7017 I would actually be curious to ride the Pan America - especially in off-road conditions but I am not sure that I will get a chance very soon - there are not many places within my current range of (restricted) travel. The Enduro Action Team is a good place to try out bikes off-road - they have a very nice lineup now but the HD is not yet part of it
@g.c.55713 жыл бұрын
1290S my 2018 white/orange...a fuckin beast! But...too heavy, too much unused power, too high for my 172cm. Ktm 790 it's more rational bike for me...
@MotoVibes3 жыл бұрын
It’s a tall bike for sure and 160 horses are not really usable off-road but they are awesome on-road 😉