Are you planning on getting a KTM 790 Adventure? If so, when?

Harley Davidson have been leaking oil for 60 years & still manage to sell motorbikes , so I'm sure KTM won't have any problems selling this one.😂🤣😂

I have the 790 Adventure R from Germany , no Problems with oil leak and no Problems with the fuel gauge .no Problems with the navi my ride nice bike to ride Offroad and on Road 👍

My Ktm adventure was returned and I got my money back , this was due to fuel issues, brake fault and software issues.

UK bike 1 week old. Love the Bike even with its problems..ie). Fuel gauge not registering - brake light jammed on constantly, dealer said it will be a relay sensor under tank, jammed in second gear couldn’t select 3rd... eventually cleared.... Bikes done 230miles Still love it, love is blind🙈😘

I have owned 3 KTM adventures from new, but the quality control has dropped badly, if the 790 leaks oil and this is a problem carried over from the 790 Duke, what does that tell you about their desire to sell bike over quality control. Unacceptable to have an o ring leak oil on a new adventure bike. How fragile is the engine to do this? I wouldnt want to cross a desert on such an engine. As for the fuel tank!!!! the interior coating blocking the fuel filter??? What, clown allowed this material to be used in the tank? And the final straw, I accompanied a friend to pick up his brand new KTM 250, It wouldnt start, turned over well but wouldnt fire up... It worked in the showroom 30 minutes ago.... Back to KTM, they couldnt resolve it!! Bike back to factory and he had to wait for a replacement. Have NEVER had a vehicle unable to start from new,,,,, you have been warned folks.

I had a ktm in the past, fun bike and despite never having any issues with mine I have seen a lot ofy friends suffering with theirs that is why I ride Kawasaki now and I'm convinced there is nothing better than having the reliability a Japanese bike can offer.

Issue is "Normal" if its a "branded" bike. But if it was a chinese bike, its "junk" even if it is well made. This shows how branding and perception differs on people. Remove the brand name and all, then judge the bike for what it is and the price your paying. For a premium bike, this should not happen. Oil leak? Clogged fuel filter? Again it should not be there in just a few mileage of use.

I love the idea of the 790 Adventure but I doubt I will ever own one. I respect KTM as a brand but it seems their polish hasn't kept up with their growth... Issues from the factory seem pretty common with KTM. I am certain they will smooth out the wrinkles and continue their march to the top of the charts.

Want a bullet proof (after a few cheap preventative fixes) middle weight ADV bike? Buy a DR650, spend a bit of cash on the suspension, header and pipe upgrade, carb rejet along with the usual adventure bike mods and you've got yourself a T-34 tank

Thanks for updating the community!

I got 790 s model last year and I must say that I've faced the most of the subject issues.. BUT.. I never regret it and I'm still excited as the first day with it.

I don't find it surprising. It's always something with the new KTMs. 790 Adventure R will be my third bike from them and I anticipate small problems for the first 1000-2000km and then it usually settles. It was the same with my previous Duke 990 (ignition switch, spark cable, fueling issues) and Super Duke 1290 GT (break pump cylinder, mushy clutch, locks in the panniers getting stuck, tire pressure sensor breaking, LCD screen getting dead pixels) I got all of that fixed in 2-3 weeks after reporting. For me the key is to have a friendly relation with the dealer, call it in, get if fix and don't bitch about it to much. These days stuff is getting produced faster and faster, the pressure from marketing and finance departments, shareholders etc is increasing in every company around the world. We just had planes falling from the sky and killing people because of lousy software design and lack of alert lights in cockpit that were "an option payed extra" FFS. Late stage capitalism at it's best :) I still like this bike though but would I take around the world? - NO. It's a performance/fun bike that it's great for 1-2 weeks of riding near "civilization" and/or support car, not a RTW adventure bike.

As usual Short, concise, valuable info added + a bit of funny as well Thanks very much for your videos Keep posting Take care

The mythical creature: A KTM that does not leak oil...

Ill just stick with my 990 Rally for now and see how this pans out over the next 12 months. Theres one thing that cant be denied by owners and that is smiles per mile count for everything and even with its shortfalls, KTM has always delivered the most smiles. Ive never had one breakdown on me and have always got me home (but lets leave the 690 out for now :-) )

I own a 790 Adventure (standard model), now with circa 1500 kms, and it has the fuel gauge issue, as yet unresolved. The bike rides every day, though. All I have to do is fill it up as soon as its tank reaches about a third of its capacity (20 liters). Waiting for the software update that will solve this issue. Other than that it is a phenomenal bike.

I have a 2020 790 and all is good. However, not the easiest ‘cold starter’ taking 3-5 turns. Any ideas to improve?

Soon they will start assembling it in India and then.... the same issues with all the KTM lineup which is manufactured here have oil leaks, coolant mixing in oil etc.

Today I had the opportunity to ride the 790 Adventure and the R Version may be my next bike in two or three years. This time I'll wait for a revised model where all problems in the manufacturing process are solved. I was an early adopter of the 1190 ADV and it also had its flaws. Even in 2019 it is risky to buy a new product. My test-bike today had the fuel gauge problem. It showed an empty fuel tank but it wasn't. The test-ride itself was great, I had a lot of fun and it seems that the fuel consumption of this bike is excellent.

Well I've had two 990 Adventures and two 1190 Rs. All from new. My first 990 did 56,000 mies in 18 months with no issues at all. Not one single problem with the others. I also have a 690 Enduro R with all the Rally Raid bits on it. This had to have a new clutch after I severely abused it in the Icelandic rivers. I now have the 790 Adventure. Coolant leak from the the thermostat hose and I just tightened it up. The other issue is misting of the TFT display which is common. A new display is due out in March. This doesn't detract from the bike one iota - love it.

I got a 690 2017 model. The last year they made them. I have had oil leaks both into the engine and outside of the engine, fuel pump issues, Fuel filter issues, Fuel line issues with the hose fittings coming apart. And i only have 3000k's on the clock. All were kown common issues with the 690 and were never resolved despite a decade long run. Good luck with that 2021 model.

More than 80,000 km on my 1290SA. I replaced the dipper switch for high beam and topped up the clutch fluid once. That’s it. No oil leaks. No fuel gauge or pump/filter problems. Still running the original chain and sprocket as the electronic pro-oiler is fantastic. I’d buy a 790 Adventure R if my local dealer hadn’t already sold their entire two allocations.

I'm considering either this or the Tenere 700. By the way, new sub here. Us small motorcycle creators have to stick together!

Hmmm. Vehicle manufacturers using the customer as their quality control department. What a novel idea. I wonder if we should be paid for our wasted time and effort. What do think Dave? Another great video. Thanks mate.

At least KTM try to evolve! That's what you risk when you try to improve! Not like other companies who have been using the same engine for decades !

I want the 2021 and that is my plan. I have budgeted the purchase. Plus I really want to ride both, this bike and the T7. Time will tell.

The price difference between the US market and the European market is based on how the pricing is to made. In the US the prices are without taxes (I believe) and in Europe they are with all taxes included.

Interesting video my friend. Coupled with some reports of bad dealership service in the past in the US, including warranty denials, this is worthy of popcorn as we watch how it unfolds. I agree it's probably just the usual 1st-year hiccups and no huge deal.

Great already couldnt afford it :) thanks for information.

Finally somebody telling the truth without any bias Thanks and keep up with the good work

I have 1190 w/ 78,000 miles, thank goodness there were never any oil leaks. The 790 is tempting, tho I wish they designed more as a 950/990 replacement. The fuel pump filter is a common problem but it only happen to me once. I was still able to make the 600 mile trip back home. I fixed mine with Guglatech filter for both the pump and in filler neck. Pricey, but one less worry.

I was looking at the Adv R but the local dealer says they won't have any till June earliest (US)

I have the new 790 KTM adventure since 2 weeks , A VERY GOOD BIKE IT IS ! But i've the problem : FUEL GAUGE KAPUT since the first 2 kms ! 4,7 l/km ~ 5,2 l/lm with a 20 l tank : each 350 kms by security gasoline station . I'm waiting for a new gauge . Except that , a super bike even an off road , everything perfect ! i'm in love !

I like your totally objective information it does help the decision choices

I have the Duke 790 - by the time they got to Australia the bugs and drips have been ironed out - + KTM keep updating maps so are providing excellent service to keep this awesome bike in play.

Where did you get this price tag for Europe? List price is 13,499 EUR for the R model.

Great review....

What about my strategy of buying a demo bike from a dealer? It spent 6 months there so presumably will have had its youth issues, and then they sell it cutting the price by almost 25%.

I bought my 790 duke back in March and I'm at a little over 9,000 miles. No issues so far.

Suprise suprise .. a KTM with issues .. noooo that cant be right .. I wont be getting another KTM to endure any more silly unnecessary issues .. you would think I would have learned after the first KTM experience .. 4 KTM's later all having redicules issues .. I'm never going back to the orange brand ever again .. and how ugly is that 790 .. YUK

bike looks great except for that headlight im not a big fan of the dakar style i hope there will be different options available for that

We purchased 2. Both had ABS issues that apparently the factory over pressurized the system causing the brake light to stay on. Blead the brakes fixed 1. The other 1 needed a new ABS sensor.

530, 350 and 250 freerides, 690, 990, 1190 all had issues in their first year....I would like to try a 790 but wouldn't buy one in the 1st year....or 2nd since I've herd about the Chinese factory.

Purchased a 790 Adventure last June, so far all is well, first service completed. TFT screen went blank for about 30 km’s and then back on, no issues since then, will be buying an extended aftermarket warranty though.... Otherwise the bike is great, performs well and is most enjoyable to ride.

Can you please make same video about bmw k1600 gtl. I have new engine after first service as it leak. I have vibration from front between 40-51 miles per hour and it’s not wheel as new tyre twice put on. Balance too. And the biggest issue bike pull to left when you take hands off and not only my one.

Bought my 2021 only a month ago and only now saw your video- does it makes me smart? :)

My 690 Duke is my third bike and the first bike i bought brand new, and also the bike I have had the most reliability problems with. Shitty clutch slave cylinder left me stranded on a ride, and now I’m dealing with a warped front brake rotor. Here’s the thing though: despite being the least reliable of of my bikes it is by far the most fun to ride and the one I have gotten the most joy out of owning. If you ride for strictly for pleasure as opposed to necessity, owning a KTM is worth it

the guy with the oil leak has a hole in the engine case!!!!! its not a oil leak, the oil leaks reported are from 2 bikes where the gasket needed to be replaced,as for the fuel gage there is a software update that fixes it

Very interested in purchasing one, but of course KTM messes that up as usual. Dealers in the US keep pushing back the date, because KTM doesn’t keep them informed. Then each dealer gets a very small amount of bikes, and claims they cannot order more for a long time. Now reports of all these little issues. I love my European bikes, but more and more hoops each year to purchase and live with them. Might start looking for a garage full of Japanese bikes again when it comes to new stuff.

Australia....2018 Duke 790.....had front sprocket countershaft seal replaced twice and its now leaking again

This is exactly why i´ll never buy a KTM motorcycle.Never had any problems on my Yamahas.

man you gotta checkout the price on ktm chinese website why? there isn't one, the duke 790 is priced at 128k cny which is 18k in usd. im planning to get the 790 but should i wait for the chinese version? should be a lot cheaper

I'll go with the AT or T7. Maybe wait for the DSR/F. No oil to leak there.

I've owned 33 KTM motorcycles over the years. Never had any mechanical issues. I'm on the list to purchase the 1st 790 R that my dealer receives. Can't Wait!

I agree the smart play is to wait until 2021. BUT I'm not sure I'm going to

No problems... Give me the KTM 790 adv R right now 👍😊

4 issues with my KTM adventure s .. HARD none adjustable rear shock.. (major problem for me) ... software made the bike chock to a stop... fixed at dealer.. fuel gage was not working.. fixed at dealer... rear brake abs not working properly.. skids sometimes when stopping... must take to dealer.. miss my trade in..

My 1976 Triumph T140 leaks less oil than that

List price in Australia is $22,695 for the R.

I am gonna wait a few years and keep riding my 1090r.

The neighbour took delivery of the new KTM 790 he has had all of the problems you speak of, his lawyer is getting his money back. I have been able to give him much hysterical laughter as I rode my CVO Street Glide 23,000 Km this summer, zero issues 50 miles gallon, comfort. Building the KTM in China is a good idea, the Chinese are able to enjoy slave labor from North Korea, a less than starvation wage is sent to KIm. The employer only has to supply the amount of food to keep these folks alive. A good deal all around. The bike will cost 60% less to build. There is a lot of historical info. regarding the absolute minimum calories to avoid death . Everybody is a winner.

the list price for the EU markets include VAT or whatever you call that tax. I doubt the US listed price includes that tax. ....i think.

I have a 1290 Super Duke R built in Austria. I love the bike, but.. it seeps a little oil, the oil temperature sensor failed, for no apparent the plastic lens on the instruments has started to craze(cheap plastic), speaking of plastic...none of it really fits well, the front brakes have been recalled, the filtration function of the airbox is essentially useless as the flange between the upper and lower halves have gaps between the screws, the speedometer reads 10% high, I just discovered fretting on the rear wheel axle at the drive(left)side bearings with only 11,000 miles on the clock, when I accomplished the first valve clearance check all valves were out of spec, the price of parts($60) for spark plugs is outrageous... I could go on. KTMs are fabulous machines to ride but I think they take the ready to race motto a bit too far. Race bikes get major maintenance after every race, road bikes should go a while before anything is required. That being said, I still think I am going to look for a used 790 Adventure for a trip to Alaska. With the new 890 coming out I guess many riders will be rushing to trade their 790s in.

I got two 790 adventures, with 20k and 22k miles. No issues except on one of them the dash goes black about every 1500-2000 miles. I need to turn off the bike to get it to come back to life.

It seems the oil tank is at higher risk of getting ripped....

I have 790 adv 2020 model , no problem at all great bike

I knew this was going to happen and it's exactly what the Yamaha T700 needed. Reliability over performance. Typical Euro vs Japanese dynamic

Ach du lieber, I am happy to have bought a 2018 for such a great price now!

Apparently will be $22695 ride away in Australia. Shifter and cruise control extra.

R is $22600 in Australia

Your Europe prices are way off! In Germany the adventure R is advertised by KTM as 13.399€

It's good to hear this. That amount of hype floating around on bullshit reviews at the moment is mind bending

Nothing new here. Someone said these problems will be solved when production moves to China. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 15.000€ OTD over here.

Its 12k at my local dealer in UK, not sure where you found that EU price as 12k gbp is much less

As I know all "small "engines bikes (790 + 390) are yet totally produced by CFmoto in China. They are evaluating to move there the production of big v-twin engines (not the entire bike) also in the next year.

Well pricewise is the ktm not the cheapest, there is still the Yamaha with their T700 wich costs way less and seams to run as reliable as all Japanese bikes.

Buy a KTM 950 and save your $$$$`s... Awesome bit of kit... Had mines for 12 years and still going strong.... It's a keeper

Hi, I hope you can help me... I own a 2018 R1200GSA which I took to South America on a 20,000km ride. I then got a 2019 F850GSA to take on my last trip from Miami to Thailand, 30,000km. Neither new bike even burped... They were perfect and I only needed to do a maintenance and change tires. I love BMW for safety and security that they won't break down. I am not a fanboy of BMW -- but I only care about reliability. Ok, so my next trip; Miami to Cape Town, South Africa. I plan when the virus ends. I'm looking to shave weight and get the KTM 790 Adventure. I have only heard horror stores about reliability and I care... I don't want to be in the middle of Africa when the bike breaks down -- and I'm stuck is some crap village waiting on parts 300km away. So I care about reliability. What changes have you heard since this video? What are the very real issues with the bike here in late 2020? Thanks.

Japan and China are holding hands in the manufacturing industry hence the QC issues. The only American manufacturer that had more recalls was Ford but Toyota alone has more than the other big three. Acura is climbing rapidly and now so it the Honda CRV. Good old days are long gone my friend.

Thanks for the info. This type of Marketing , is destroying everything!...… But wait, i ve got an idea! If Brands produce all in China it s OK, clients just have to pay their motorbikes at chinese prices too!!!!!!! hahahahahahahahah Bye

the price in Europe is around 13.000 euros or 14.500 american dollars

Your info is off. In Belgium it's 13 500eur for the adv R. There is no one price for Europe, because of different vat across different countries. Still happy I bought one it's a great bike, and no oil leak after 2000km 😊

Thanks for the updates.. If my $10 Chinese coffee maker breaks, I can throw it away and buy a new one.. Yamaha has been talking about a 700 CC adventure bike for two years now .. maybe in 2020 ? People in Europe keep voting for more Socialism so taxes keep going up .. Gas here in USA last December was $1.80 for 3.8 Liters..

America has not received the 790's yet we will let you guys get all the bugs out for us :)

I have no idea where you get the price. But in Germany can have a 790 adv r for 13,399 € -> 15031 $ . The Price is inclusive taxes. The Price is from EU Country to Country different.

If it dosn't leak oil is it even a KTM

Japanese motorcycles gives you reliability...... KTMs gives you smiles. Such a subtle difference ;)

don't wanna get a 790 but...this doesn't look too serious...I prefer an updated 690...

After watching this video i was curious about these issues that this gentleman has stated but cannot find anything aside from one guy that commented below that he had a faulty fuel gauge? Not to say there are no issues but nothing aside from this video and the usual arm chair jockeys that comment on stuff they have never been on...

So the same old KTM's then, T-7 will have less power but it will be you there . L L. L.l for 6K less.

European prices include VAT. North America, not.

FYI, prices in EU are with tax, and the US without ... as usual :-)

I was looking buy this as a shirt rider I have 1190 r I love one compear to 1199 the plastic feel lot better then ktm 790 the plastic Kent protect the tank I rip off my own hands let alone a rock or brach one that tool kit is under one fearing really annoying will get broken easy if pulled the wrong way if in rust and only 20kg lighter then 1190 r that has 150bph then 90 . And ktm mead 640 adventure back in 2004 was lighter then 790 the speedo all ways brake on 1290 it not adventure bike adventure bike be a bike every u get around the world more recent more unrealbale the bike get and lighter. I think this bike for one place the bin. I think Yamaha t7 is better and cheaper and cheaper to run.

Definetly nothing compared to the BMW 310's produced in India. I go for the anything produced in China over iIndia. Ok food tastes better in India....

Go electric and you don't have to worry about engine oil and fuel filters etc. Range is a deal breaker for now, but in 2 years who knows...

Honda made in Taiwan beats KTM build in China any day in my rule book. NEVER!!!

Them moving to China means we will get copies of chinese ktm with same reliability but quarter the price

That dutch rider Noraly (Itchy boots) has ridden 31000 kms on her RE Himalayan from India, Myanmar, Thailand, Malaysia, Central Asia, Iran, Baltic states. Only issue so far is a worn sprocket and a front tire puncture. The bloody thing has only 27 HP and it carries her two metal side panniers, metal top box, 35L tail bag, tank bag and two 5L fuel jerkin (front)! And it cost EU 2,400 in India. Oooo KTM is European and bashing it is blasphemy.

Am I understanding that the new 890 adventure R is built in China.....?