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Jason Hudson a.k.a. john berry

Jason Hudson a.k.a. john berry

8 жыл бұрын

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@NyQuilDonut
@NyQuilDonut 7 жыл бұрын
I watched Soaked In Bleach and apparently they found a cheat sheet of Kurt's handwriting in Courtney or Cali's backpack. That alone seems like enough evidence to have Courtney arrested for conspiracy to commit murder.
@perrap79
@perrap79 7 жыл бұрын
lasoogneypubes the problem is that the Seattle PD consider his death a suicide. Therefore there is no suspects. There are (in their opinion) no evidence that he was killed. I watched it too and I totally agree with you...
@Foustdoodles98
@Foustdoodles98 6 жыл бұрын
I hope Courtney dies alone from all the drugs she took in the 90s, and i also hope that she burns in hell for what she did to Kurt!! Courtney Love killed him and that's a FACT!!! Even my mom watched "Soaked in Bleach" and she believes that Courtney did it, which we all know she did!!!
@nikkimarchant9113
@nikkimarchant9113 6 жыл бұрын
Aaron Foust Her own dad has said she killed Kurt
@NITE_SHIFTING
@NITE_SHIFTING 5 жыл бұрын
I KNOW! People are rotting in prison with WAY less 'evidence' than this against them.
@trollop4866
@trollop4866 5 жыл бұрын
They reopened the case again and did the undeveloped film and closed saying it didnt show fould play......bitch you expect me to believe he shot up then had the mind to roll down sleeves and put it all away high as fuck in a neat little box and then shoot himself in the face with a gun right side up and the gun flipped lmfao nope
@ichiban308
@ichiban308 8 жыл бұрын
if this happened 20 years later, the hive mind collective that is the Internet would have torn this suicide to shreds. She is guilty of complicity at minimum.
@hankmoody940
@hankmoody940 8 жыл бұрын
interesting ..astute.
@Quoteunquot3
@Quoteunquot3 5 жыл бұрын
From the way it sounds, Kurt knew something was up and that's why he escaped the rehab and went silent to get away from Courtney. I think they tried to make him overdose and stage it as a suicide in Rome and when he came to, he realized that there was something nefarious going on and wanted to get away asap.
@jordyb1131
@jordyb1131 4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@fabiulamaria6595
@fabiulamaria6595 3 жыл бұрын
I agree too
@harrietmarshall956
@harrietmarshall956 5 жыл бұрын
"All publicity is good publicity", "selfishly, this might help to sell my record".... Kurt's death benefitted Courtney in more than one way 🤯🤬
@ltrain4479
@ltrain4479 5 жыл бұрын
For people who keep saying Courtney killed him, she couldn't physically have done it, she was in LA. But she definitely conspired to have him knocked off.
@r.palombit704
@r.palombit704 5 жыл бұрын
Well yea
@jrrcorcloudsaremine
@jrrcorcloudsaremine 5 жыл бұрын
What part of this are you missing? She had him killed... she paid someone to kill him... are you that stupid?
@MehIgotnothing
@MehIgotnothing 4 жыл бұрын
We all know she didn't physically kill him. She was setting up her alibi by being in LA. She was the ultimate puppet master in this situation though. You can't forget El Duce passed a lie detector about her offering him 50k to kill Kurt. It's no coincidence either he died shortly after that interview.
@PaulWildstar
@PaulWildstar 3 жыл бұрын
Charles Manson did the same thing. Instead of Acid-headed Killer Girls, Courtney used her Heroin-drenched Boyfriends to do the job. Manson got convicted because one of his girls talked. Same thing could happen to Courtney...
@bobbyramblewood1047
@bobbyramblewood1047 3 жыл бұрын
Obviously
@cloud_monkey422
@cloud_monkey422 5 жыл бұрын
Cali and Dylan need to be looked at
@ZachAttackO0
@ZachAttackO0 5 жыл бұрын
Why the hell is the case still closed we got a lot of fans here...
@SecularProphet1968
@SecularProphet1968 5 жыл бұрын
I don't like Courtney Love. I think she's a talentless hack that would have remained in obscurity if she had never hooked up with Kurt. The bottom line is that no one in the general public knows what really happened. It just sucks big time because Kurt is gone and he's never coming back. The world is a little bit darker without his brilliance. If Kurt was murdered then the people involved may get away with it. In the end though, justice will be served. Everyone has an appointment with the almighty creator on judgement day and no murderer can enter the kingdom of God. So rest easy. While Kurt is enjoying the unfathomable bliss of an eternal paradise, Courtney and her minions will be doing their time in the place of eternal punishment. No one gets away with anything. Justice will be served and no one will escape it. If anyone thinks I'm crazy to think this, that"s cool. Maybe you're right. I guess we'll all find out someday,
@sushikittyuwu
@sushikittyuwu 4 жыл бұрын
Amen I believe is rocking in heaven watching over his fans and frances
@jeffwolfe4058
@jeffwolfe4058 6 жыл бұрын
Courtney would of never gave Grant the time of day and not tell him to F off or leave crazy messages if she didn't think she needed to suck up to him to keep him from digging any deeper.
@danurenaz1005
@danurenaz1005 8 жыл бұрын
How Could the Cops b that Senseless. Seattle P.D is Wack
@BloodofaFool
@BloodofaFool 7 жыл бұрын
almost guarantee Cali killed Kurt and put him in the greenhouse. That's why Dylan didn't bring him up there because he knew what was going on and all these kids are crazy junkies who, you have to keep in mind, rely on Courtney for drugs. If she gets everything she can pay off these folks easy. if you want to get away with murder you choose a drug addict. Also Courtney has remained in his shadow when Kurt was only with her for the last two years of his life who happen to be at wits end with his wife. how could you deny the timing and ultimatum. everyone knew Courtney she could set all this up and pay them all off.
@CarolineChiasson
@CarolineChiasson 5 жыл бұрын
Bri Khamp I agree fully and completely.
@sigsin1
@sigsin1 4 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure Cali actually did it but he moved in with his girlfriend that week so that he would be out of the way.
@MelchizedekKohen
@MelchizedekKohen 4 жыл бұрын
@@sigsin1 both dylan and cali and girlfriends lived in the house after kurt passed
@meme-px2wu
@meme-px2wu 5 жыл бұрын
This video makes no mention of it, but let's not forget Jessica Hopper was staying with Cali in the house, and was one of the last people to see Kurt alive.
@filipematias5127
@filipematias5127 5 жыл бұрын
me me : TRUE!
@djefferson5669
@djefferson5669 5 жыл бұрын
Both Cali Dewitt and Rene Navarrette we’re living at the house at the time Kurt’s body was found. People forget or don’t know that during the last 15 months or so Kurt was alive he had 3 different Nannies. Cali, Rene and Hattie. Hattie quit a few weeks before Kurt died. She was a Nanny for Frances from Jan-March which required her to fly to Rome after Kurt’s “overdose” even though Cali and Pat Smear we’re already with Kurt and Courtney. I guess they need a pretty, wholesome face around Frances if they were to get any publicity leaving Rome. They didn’t need child protective services coming to them again after a drug overdose with a Nanny looking like a full blown junkie the way Cali did in March94.
@kymbreleigh
@kymbreleigh 8 жыл бұрын
one sweet day we will see this woman in handcuffs! #justiceforkurt
@biggreeneyedcat65
@biggreeneyedcat65 7 жыл бұрын
I truly hope that we do! God Bless Tom Grant!
@KaleidoscopeMagic
@KaleidoscopeMagic 7 жыл бұрын
Yep, her and Hillary Clinton on the same day would be AWESOME!!!
@sue54walker
@sue54walker 6 жыл бұрын
No we won't
@jrrcorcloudsaremine
@jrrcorcloudsaremine 5 жыл бұрын
As much as I wish that would happen, she has too many big wigs on her side, like Geffen and other elites... She won't go to jail at this rate... but she's not going to ever rest easy... She's always going to be haunted... She's the DEVIL.
@xwarx1000
@xwarx1000 4 жыл бұрын
no that wont happen because she is fckng women.
@rachbrowne8180
@rachbrowne8180 7 жыл бұрын
She makes me feel sick
@cindyurena975
@cindyurena975 8 жыл бұрын
Courtney is a Liar. How does Love Sleep at Night.
@peterheinzelmann3335
@peterheinzelmann3335 8 жыл бұрын
a bit off topic but your words reminded me of the fact that I believe there was a reason Kurt played "Where Did you sleep last night" as last song on Unplugged
@stefanieanguiano5983
@stefanieanguiano5983 7 жыл бұрын
CINDY URENA Courtney sleeps at night just fine because she is a heartless, soulless piece of trash, and she takes strong drugs to knock herself out.
@williamrobinson7568
@williamrobinson7568 6 жыл бұрын
How does Love Sleep at Night...A very large bottle of Xanax
@paulmader1052
@paulmader1052 5 жыл бұрын
She manages to sleep with all the drugs
@nunyabiznis817
@nunyabiznis817 5 жыл бұрын
well, duh, she takes Rohypnol.
@garygeist1356
@garygeist1356 4 жыл бұрын
The Seattle Police Department should be sued for not properly investigating the death of Kurt Cobain
@takenoprisoners837
@takenoprisoners837 4 жыл бұрын
His so-called "Best Friend" Dylan or Cali was absolutely involved, he assisted Courtney plan all this. Then he made sure the Private Investigator did not go in that greenhouse at all costs.
@BigDisco-ff9lr
@BigDisco-ff9lr 5 жыл бұрын
If someone is doing heroin they usually start to nodd out before the needle leaves their arm, so how could he get a gun and load it being like that?
@heatherhillman1
@heatherhillman1 4 жыл бұрын
Not just that, but the syringe and tourniquet were placed neatly back in the box and his sleeves were rolled down. It's pathetic that the Seattle Police just ignored a lot of red flags and sloppily covered tracks because they just saw him as another junkie that OD'd.
@elisekellogg3700
@elisekellogg3700 4 жыл бұрын
I can't believe the Seattle police department didn't do any investigation .
@QueenMabx
@QueenMabx 4 жыл бұрын
I always think if there was just one thing in the world that I could know the absolute truth of, it would be to know the actual circumstances around Kurt's passing... it bugs me so much, like so many other people I'm sure
@Oshkaga
@Oshkaga 6 жыл бұрын
"Nothing in this world is hidden forever. The gold which has lain for centuries unsuspected in the ground reveals itself one day on the surface. Sand turns traitor and betrays the footsteps that have passed over it. Water gives back to the telltale surface the body that has been drowned. Fire itself leaves the confession, in ashes, of the substance consumed in it. Hate breaks its prison-secrecy in the thoughts, through the doorway of the eyes, and love finds the Judas who betrays it with a kiss. Look where we will, the inevitable law of revelation is one of the laws of nature. The lasting preservation of a secret is a miracle the world has never yet seen." Wilkie Collins
@MarcDufresneosorusrex
@MarcDufresneosorusrex 5 жыл бұрын
amen
@MelModica
@MelModica 5 жыл бұрын
Yes the truth always comes out eventually!
@kristaheck580
@kristaheck580 7 жыл бұрын
Didn't realize Cali was Love's ex boyfriend. Find that a little odd.
@madelineluvspugs5141
@madelineluvspugs5141 6 жыл бұрын
He’s nasty like her , gross!
@melodymodica7922
@melodymodica7922 5 жыл бұрын
I didnt know that either makes them look even more suspicious!!!!
@21chch
@21chch 5 жыл бұрын
whoa!!
@stephendoran2690
@stephendoran2690 5 жыл бұрын
He was also a junkie
@444ltr
@444ltr 4 жыл бұрын
So was the coroner who ruled a suicide, he met with unfortunate skiing accident years later. Courtney has a lot of boyfriends. By the way at the morgue they cut off all of Kurt's hair and danced with his body making a video which allegedly Courtney Love has. The witch then took the hair and made a doll of it which was given to her daughter Frances Bean.
@hackchewspit1956
@hackchewspit1956 5 жыл бұрын
All about the Money!!! Courtney's rantings before kurts death even proved that. Would really love to know what exactly was said during the "intervention". And funny how the people at that intervention where corporate/money people, NOT friend's.
@TT-hl5ql
@TT-hl5ql 3 жыл бұрын
For sure interesting...
@cindyurena975
@cindyurena975 8 жыл бұрын
Courteney Sounds so Fake how sad
@Dave11115
@Dave11115 5 жыл бұрын
The F.B.I should reopen this case 2018 asap
@TT-hl5ql
@TT-hl5ql 3 жыл бұрын
There is a petition. I don't have the link right now but there is one. Maybe even more than one. I really hope it's reopened.
@agdrummer2610
@agdrummer2610 7 жыл бұрын
This video is great but I wish the text on screen wasn't blown through so quickly. I am admittedly a slower reader but you cant throw an 8 sentence paragraph up there for 4 seconds and expect everyone to be able to read and absorb it all. Other wise awesome video about a horrible event. Courtney has used Kurts death to live a very prosperous life and that is a sad fact.
@jasonhudsona.k.a.johnberry1944
@jasonhudsona.k.a.johnberry1944 4 жыл бұрын
If you press pause, the words stop moving.
@_u_t_o_n_
@_u_t_o_n_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@jasonhudsona.k.a.johnberry1944 I did that, but it was also challenging to read & listen at the same time, but somehow I managed :D (but it wasn't easy)
@lisagraham2944
@lisagraham2944 4 жыл бұрын
The truth has come out thanks to Tom Grant. God bless you. I also think there is more to the story than any of us realize.
@user-hw6kq1fn2l
@user-hw6kq1fn2l 4 жыл бұрын
It's very hard to realise everything and very difficult to understand if you're not an english speaking person. But thanks for the information, it's important for fans and justice.
@TT-hl5ql
@TT-hl5ql 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonhudsona.k.a.johnberry1944 are you serious lol it's crazy you expect that. Not a bad video otherwise but you shouldn't expect people to keep pausing like that.
@cindyurena975
@cindyurena975 8 жыл бұрын
Arrest C Love
@hankmoody940
@hankmoody940 8 жыл бұрын
@gamma21285
@gamma21285 4 жыл бұрын
@@irotac ehhh people like her don't have any guilt. You have to have a conscience to have guilt.
@martymcfly7532
@martymcfly7532 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry I can't continue to LISTEN TO HER VOICE!...SEEING THAT CALI WAS HER EX...WOW..LITERALLY 1:41 IN AND I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE...SO SAD TO TAKE KURT FROM HIS FAMILY.. AND THE MILLIONS OF FANS AROUND THE WORLD!
@filipematias5127
@filipematias5127 5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately this case can never be reopened simply because it would never amount to anything in legal terms thus it would never reach to a trial in a court of law since the body was cremated, the shotgun mishandled, the original "Rome" note destroyed and the greenhouse (crime scene) demolished shortly afterwards so that no new material forensic evidences could ever be found! The missing credit card mystery and the shredded double plane tickets are also unsolvable questions due to the Seattle police departament's negligence during the investigation and also to almost 25 years that have pasted since! Plus some people of interest in this case have already died (or simply vanished) like Pfaff or Hoke and also Det.Cameron or the medical examiner while others are still keeping silent! Of course there are aboundant circumstancial evidences of a conspiracy both to murder Kurt and also of a cover up by several different people: the discrepancies, inconsistancies, lies and contradictions are plain as day that even a blindman can see them! Nevertheless I think it would be highly revealing if the Seattle Police Departament interviewed formally Courtney Love, Michael Dewitt and his girlfriend Jennifer Hopper, Dylan Carlson, Allen Wrench, Eric Erlandson, Jackie Ferry, Tom Grant and Rosemary Carrol as persons of interest to the case: maybe one of them would slip up under questioning admitting to something without wanting a lawyer present which is a longshot! The writing on the practice sheet can't be admitted as evidence because it lacks due legal provenance to establish a chain of custody and its authentication inspite everyone knowing it is real! A confession of guilt by one of the major role players in the Cobain affair is the only way this case would be reopened! I am afraid doubt will always persist which says a lot both ways... Requiescat In Pace Kurt Cobain ✝
@MelModica
@MelModica 5 жыл бұрын
they need to make Courtney and Cali and anyone else involved take a lie detector test!
@Charles-bn4cd
@Charles-bn4cd 7 жыл бұрын
It's fucked up how a lot of evidence was destroyed. Kurt's body, the shotgun, the greenhouse and the "suicide" note. Jesus fucking christ.
@D4Disdain
@D4Disdain 4 жыл бұрын
The key to reopening this case is Francis Bean. When she gets older and Love exerts no more influence over her, I think she could legitimately request that the SPD reopen the case and release the coroners report along with all the evidence that was collected at the scene. With Tom Grant's assistance, I believe the real truth surrounding Kurt's death will finally come to light.
@irenesmith7445
@irenesmith7445 4 жыл бұрын
Top video, cheers!
@James-xj9zu
@James-xj9zu 7 жыл бұрын
Courtney love was not the only person involved in this. I love how everyone focuses on her as the hit person. But no one ever thinks about the truth of the matter. Who killed Jimi, The damn record company. It is the same with Cobain. Kurt was wanting to Make one more Nirvana record. But he wanted a long break from Nirvana he didn't want to be touring is was getting to stressful, So he was branching out in to solo projects. Everyone knew that Dave was going to eventually do the Foo Fighters. Krist was headed on the path which we ended up taking the eyes a drift project, as well as the other band projects that Krist did, plus his venture into political matters. Kurt was wanting to do some stuff with Michael Stipe, a solo acoustic project, and so on... Kurt had depression but who the hell wouldn't if you were in his shoes. Kurt went through a lot. But I defy one person to say they them selves have not thought of suicide when life looked so bleak to you at that moment. That coupled with the fact of Kurts dark since of humor it give easy access to blame him that he was Suicidal and always depressed. Yet if you watch interviews with Kurt leading to his last days he was Happy and he out look on life had totally changed on so many different things. Kurt pissed off the record company who would lose a lot of money if he stopped touring for them, and that coupled with the whole Courtney shit is why Kurt ended up dead. If he dies no body loses and in fact they relied upon that fact look what happened When Kurt's death was announced Album sales, T-shirt sales all went through the roof. The greedy bastards got what they wanted and that was all that mattered.
@jessejackson4575
@jessejackson4575 7 жыл бұрын
It was also illuminaty. Kurt dispised the industry.
@d.a.thorndike8772
@d.a.thorndike8772 5 жыл бұрын
I am certain that Dylan Carlson is up to his neck in this, too. He purposely kept Tom Grant from searching the Greenhouse when they were looking for Kurt, so you know he was part of the conspiracy. My theory is that he was in that Greenhouse with Kurt when he died. He probably supplied him the heroin, and as probably got a huge payoff from Courtney. I think he would have known Kurt and his handwriting intimately enough to be able to forge it well, so he could have been the one who added the extra lines in the note as well. He also would have been one of the few people to know about the "Boddha" reference and add that to the note. If Dylan was involved he was the one person Kurt still trusted without question, so he could have been the perfect person to get Kurt in the position to set up the "suicide" . It's public knowledge that he did help him buy the shotgun, so that is already a big black flag.
@MegKampen
@MegKampen 5 жыл бұрын
She was in LA! That was her alibi! How can she be at two places at once?
@krisfrederick5001
@krisfrederick5001 4 жыл бұрын
31:07 That is alarming, no pun intended, Kurt never brushed his hair. Also, why did Courtney "randomly" have a security system installed on a room they supposedly never used? Ouch.
@cmonhitme419
@cmonhitme419 5 жыл бұрын
"THERE'S ONLY ONE PROBLEM WITH THAT, COURTNEY." HAHAHA @37.00
@Tinanbobby
@Tinanbobby 5 жыл бұрын
I think kurt was with kristin pfaff she had an apartment on Capitol Hill right close to Kurt's dealer and maybe he bought that other plane ticket for her when she died someone ripped out all the pages of her diary out and it was that week he went missing
@cmonhitme419
@cmonhitme419 5 жыл бұрын
THANK GOD FOR GRANT
@krisfrederick5001
@krisfrederick5001 4 жыл бұрын
10:00 Case closed, that's it.
@pennytyson4358
@pennytyson4358 4 жыл бұрын
Kris Frederick shes guilty as hell.
@nimusworks5475
@nimusworks5475 4 жыл бұрын
what a great work. Congrats and long live the Cobains!
@lunarmystic9896
@lunarmystic9896 4 жыл бұрын
There's absolutely no evidence to extrapulate a verdict of suicide. There is however overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Therefore the logical question is why has the police department not acted accordingly ...
@Pennyroyal_T.
@Pennyroyal_T. 5 жыл бұрын
Your husband is dead. Your friend (Kristen) is dead too and.... YOU DON'T CRY?!? CL phone conversations with Tom show that she didn't feel pain. It seems so weird!! I was emotionally K.O. during these days and... he wasn't MY husband! 😦🤔
@irenesmith7445
@irenesmith7445 4 жыл бұрын
#Justiceforkurt #Reopenthecase #Kurtcobain #Courtneylove #Courtneylovecobain
@mojepunktywidzenia7856
@mojepunktywidzenia7856 7 жыл бұрын
GOOD JOB making TIMELINE of it all cuz ppl get confused by the mess n chaos in this case. Timeline is a great idea to organise things in ppl's minds. Good job n a good idea. I think Frances co-produced Montage of Heck suggesting in a way that she does NOT want the case REopen but i think it's due to her strong subjective emotions of need to not face the probable facts about her own mother. I think it's explainable and every kid would want to be left with rather less tragic tale about one's own parent. So I do feel for her due to the REopening case craze. But yet, I am PRO REopening it even though it'd emotionally cost his daushter reliving the trauma, I'm sorry. I am PRO because of the chain of evidences and thousands of ppl's questions not answered properly. And for JUSTICE itself. And for the poor desperate copy-cat suicidal adolescents. And whether courtney did it or not (i'd rather consider having him killed more probable than killing him herself which is less probable to me personally) her attitude is unbearable and disgusting and gives such a bad example to the youth who r mislead n think it's 'cool to b bitchy'. Sooo wrong. To me, she - among some other 'stars' or 'celebriries' - is a living proof that a human being can live fully couscious but totally without...conscience. I feel for Frances. N for Kurt, whatever happened. N for the questions about the TRUTH that yes, should be answered at any cost. Oh...n personally? I'm not even a huge fan of grunge music but the Hole...omg it SUCKS for me, personally. BIG time (n I'm not biased by courtney's attitude in this case of the taste of music...not 1 per cent)!
@martinkingston1498
@martinkingston1498 6 жыл бұрын
You raised a very important point with your sentence about Frances Bean... " due to her strong subjective emotions of need to not face the probable facts about her own mother". Any who studies this case in depth and is willing to look at all of the available facts with real objectivity CANNOT but conclude that he was murdered for money. Courtney's character is also very well documented, and Frances Bean has likely been fed a one sided manipulative narrative for years to convince her that Kurt was a hopelessly depressed addict with suicidal tendencies and that his death was practically inevitable. It is probably much easier for Frances to live with the idea of a "suicidal" father than one whose life was ruthlessly taken from him by murderous vultures for the oldest reason in the book. R.I.P Kurt and I hope you get justice.
@saimabi8553
@saimabi8553 4 жыл бұрын
Actually Bean was raised by Kurt's mother at one point. But I have no sympathy for the daughter because she is her mother. She will curse out Kurt Cobain but when her lack of talent doesn't get her anywhere then she uses her father's name. They are just money grabbing whores. That daughter of his is only interested in money and fame. Watch her behaviour over the years and she's batshit crazy like her mother. She has that killer vibe. She also had plastic surgery to look like Kurt because there are rumours that the kid isn't even his. Some say that's what the actual catalyst to the divorce was about. They did a private DNA and she isn't Kurt's daughter but actually someone you'll be surprised about and you wouldn't even believe it. She had him killed because she wouldn't have seen a single penny seeing as the daughter wasn't his and she was a leach. He realised she was after his blood in Rome Hence why he wrote her a letter there and that's when shit went down.
@SirenTown0
@SirenTown0 3 жыл бұрын
@@saimabi8553 so frances isnt kurts daughter? source?
@sue54walker
@sue54walker 6 жыл бұрын
These are the questions that fill my brain
@nelliesilvers1210
@nelliesilvers1210 4 жыл бұрын
He'd told police he locked himself in the bathroom to get away from her..the gun was for protection coz she was crazy. After all this shit, they STILL dismissed it as suicide. Like I've said on other videos...the Chief of Police at the time of Kurt's death now wishes he looked deeper into the case. He regrets it and says if he were still CoP today, he'd definitely reopen the case
@mooknick242
@mooknick242 5 жыл бұрын
so some real guy named Bill Bailey sitting in a Motel 6 doing God knows what got a random call from Courtney Love? Kidding aside i blame Kurt a little for even becoming involved with a skank like Courtney when he could have had almost any cute girl out there..imagine being him and realizing that you have basically set yourself up to be stripped clean by a wolf pack...hell maybe he did kill himself.
@ArizonaRed
@ArizonaRed Жыл бұрын
At one point Tom tells someone he believes that Dylan probably found Kurt the night before he was discovered and stopped helping. I guess that sets his time of death to Sunday or Monday.
@killian001
@killian001 5 жыл бұрын
I have been pro active since 1999 in an attempt to get this case reopened. I believe she had a direct and indirect involvement in his murder. What saddens me is even if we went back in time and tried to warn Kurt and actively left the relationship, I cannot see him kicking his heroin habit which was getting fairly full on in the last 12 months right up to his last weeks booting with Dylan. I don't see him leaving her (the absolute conniving, manipulative and chameleon like liar) and his life getting immediately getting better - not when you are a heavily addicted to any drug - particularly heroin. I have always thought Cali, Dylan and CL were all in on it with her using their addictions to get what she ultimately wanted. When it comes to smack - people do many things to feed the sickness . Or more apt stave off the sickness. I admired Kurt and the band since I first heard about a girl on bleach - and the significant difference when Dave joined - finally - the band became mega tight. And they practiced and practiced for 6 months leading into nervermind. This whole affair reads worse than a Greek tragedy. All I hear from CL in me me me .... bullsh*t bullsh*t bullsh*t, but who gives a f*ck about their new record when your husband just dies. Uncool. And yet she roams free - blew all the cash (outside of Francis) which was a total travesty given none of it was hers - it was from years of him trying to make music he liked. Let alone the rubbish that happened with the Seattle police and her relationship with high ranking officers that investigated and ignored - they all believed her concocted rubbish about Kurt being suicidal. What rot - he wasn't suicidal - he was just sick of CL's over the top control. He wanted to write new music , he didn't want to do lollapollooza (apologies for spelling), she did and the $7mill he forewent. Well she sucked the life out of him, took the life from him, and lived off him in blatant extravagance upon his passing. Furthermore, why do you think CL's dad, Tom Grant and many others inc. her solicitor didn't doubt her ability to do whatever it took to get what she wanted. That's why this nirvana story ended - she did whatever it took - to get what she wanted. No suicide here...... murder in the first.
@krisfrederick5001
@krisfrederick5001 4 жыл бұрын
Kurt bought the gun with Dylan before he went to Exodus. Courtney was already in L.A. How would she know he bought the shotgun? She was in contact with someone that was well aware of where he was and what he was doing.
@jasonhudsona.k.a.johnberry1944
@jasonhudsona.k.a.johnberry1944 4 жыл бұрын
I timelined that between March 30 and April 3, Dylan let that information slip to Courtney. Either Dylan or someone he told. I believe Dylan and Cali hold many pieces to this puzzle.
@gbollc
@gbollc 4 жыл бұрын
@@jasonhudsona.k.a.johnberry1944 Exactly!
@kevinspiteri1789
@kevinspiteri1789 4 жыл бұрын
head of police stated that she recieves daily requests to open the case again ...
@garygeist1356
@garygeist1356 4 жыл бұрын
I believe the day Courtney reported Kurt missing using his mother's name, is the same day he was killed
@spacewitch9898
@spacewitch9898 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same
@bluejackgirlyx
@bluejackgirlyx 7 жыл бұрын
go grant !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A+
@austinpblack
@austinpblack 4 жыл бұрын
29:33 this & the following recording explaining how passive she was says something huge in my opinion.
@444ltr
@444ltr 4 жыл бұрын
The little reverse negative picture of Kurt Cobain is cute.....what about Courtney Love repeatedly contacting Seattle police through her lawyer after they basically covered up a murder and asking for originals pictures of the murder scene. They had an internal memo to have the pictures locked up and not to release them to Courtney Love. But they did release the gun from the murder scene to her, which is basically unheard of in these cases, and she promptly had it melted....
@eranz79
@eranz79 7 жыл бұрын
Y cobain family didn't do anything?!!!
@noneya3867
@noneya3867 6 жыл бұрын
Eranz79 because they get money from cL and they weren’t close to him
@pennytyson4358
@pennytyson4358 4 жыл бұрын
Eranz79 why!!!
@summertime2993
@summertime2993 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of Kurt and NIRVANA/ I've been watching documentary's and media and movies and read a lot about all this, his tragic death. I cry all the time. I wonder if she EVER LOVED HIM(?) honestly I don't think so Kurt has been through a lot in his life. But he never had the most important thing we all do... LOVE .. to be loved by his family... And show him that even his mother cared about him. He was broke at a very young age. ... He just needed love, to be loved, and he would give that back. But sadly he picked the wrong woman. #shameonyouCL
@THEcucufate
@THEcucufate 4 жыл бұрын
Summertime He found a Love, alright. To your point, it's ironic that her last name happened to be that which he needed most. Certain as the sun, the Love he found is his murderer. Sad. Fking trashy whore should just be taken by street people back into the dark world that she used to accomplish this, and serve justice the way she served a cold fate for Kurt. Period. #shameonyourself
@THEcucufate
@THEcucufate 4 жыл бұрын
Summertime wait. ?. I take that back as it relates to sympathizing with you. You write that comment, BUT YOUR CHANNEL HAS HOLE SONG COVERS MADE BY YOU???? LIKE SEVERAL?! Wow, you're tragic and shoukd be ashamed you even give that band any props. Wow!
@wellrose17
@wellrose17 6 жыл бұрын
I still am a huge Nirvana fan & musician. Matter of fact just learned Sappy on guitar. With that said, back in 94 when this happened he killed himself. Because [ i was a heroin junkie .musician who wanted to die. This is a great & super convincing . He was so famous & i was young that he almost didn't seem real. This made me after all these years see the human & the talent the daughter the "junkie Kurddt killed himself legacy". one question. could this and Courtney's lies be about insurance or money b/c he was dead? Either way. This is well put together and probably better than any other movie dealing with this topic. One last thing, Im 38. In 94 when he died i TRULY thought I'd NEVER be alive this long. If he was murdered Im pissed. Live through this had great songs on it but Kurdt wrote them.
@BillyJack85
@BillyJack85 6 жыл бұрын
I think Grant could have got Courtney to confess or implicate herself in a conspiracy if he would have had the presence of mind to present himself as some sort of shady, sycophantic, star-struck P.I. who would do anything for a buck. If he would have presented himself to her as a P.I. who had "other talents" or services to offer for the right price, I think there's a good chance she might have tried to utilize him in some part of the conspiracy/coverup. If not that, I think she would have at least tried to pick his brain or bounce things off of him as an investigator/former police officer who knows the ins and outs of a suicide/homicide investigation. She obviously likes to talk a lot and get other people's feedback on her schemes... I don't think it's far fetched at all to imagine she could have been manipulated into being lulled into a false sense of security and disclosing way too much. Unfortunately we'll never know what she would have said or done under those circumstances, if anything. I bet he could have easily gotten her to implicate herself as having some prior knowledge at least, tho.
@patriciapedercini7935
@patriciapedercini7935 6 жыл бұрын
BillyJack85 It looks to me like she implicated herself (inadvertently,) but the cops did nothing about all this evidence, for some reason.
@hellywise2542
@hellywise2542 5 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%. I was kinda thinking that he should've played with her a bit. I think she would've taken the bait. He let her know pretty much right away that he was suspicious of her which immediately put her against him. However, he is a smart guy, I'm sure he had his reasons. He probably thought since it was so obvious to him that she was involved that it was gonna be easy to get the case reopened and bust her bitch ass. Stole his life and legacy. I feel so so sad for him. For so many years I didn't want to believe she was involved because I was a huge fan of hers. Honestly, more of a fan of hers than his. But if he actually commited suicide...well that would just be too much of a goddamn coincidence that it happened to be at the absolute perfect time for her, wouldn't it?? I dont want to believe it but all the lies, inconsistancies, benefits on her behalf....its too much and WHY...WHY WON'T SHE COME OUT COMPASSIONATELY AND TELL THE PEOPLE THAT LOOKED UP TO NOT ONLY HIM BUT HER THAT SHE'S INNOCENT???
@krisfrederick5001
@krisfrederick5001 5 жыл бұрын
Catfish her basically
@bluejackgirlyx
@bluejackgirlyx 7 жыл бұрын
@32.00 - look at the west memphis free- alford plea... they will never admit human incompetence
@schandmaske
@schandmaske 4 жыл бұрын
Simon Richie and Bill Bailey = Sid Vicious and Axl Rose.
@katnip6289
@katnip6289 6 жыл бұрын
I thought a Workman found the body.
@nelliesilvers1210
@nelliesilvers1210 4 жыл бұрын
Yup. The electrician found him
@historicalhollywood
@historicalhollywood Жыл бұрын
Unbelievable!
@markgarduno4597
@markgarduno4597 4 жыл бұрын
I'm with most people here, there has to be justice for Kurt. I'll be the first admit that I wasn't a big fan of grunge rock and really detested it for a while, but I've learned to appreciate and like it as the years have passed. I've also come to say that Kurt was more than a Rock star, on that he was starting to hit his stride and become more than legendary. But the horror of greed had to stick its head in and cut him at his stride and the man was no more. No one, and I mean no can inject himself enough drugs to kill ten people, put away his kit , take of his strap ,then grab a shot gun ,pull the trigger, then clean the gun a stage his body. That's all I'm saying. God bless you all and may there be true JUSTICE FOR KURT COBAIN.
@jessejackson4575
@jessejackson4575 7 жыл бұрын
Did they re-open the case?
@samkoopmann8833
@samkoopmann8833 3 жыл бұрын
There’s literally an audio of Courtney saying she wanted to shoot a bullet in the sky and have it hit Kurt on his birthday
@jusme8525
@jusme8525 5 жыл бұрын
Thats what i think.RIP BEAUTIFUL SOUL.IM SO SORRY GREED N JEALOUSY TOOK U FROM YOUR DESTINY AND FRANCIS BEAN.I DESPISE GREEDY JEALOUS PEOPLE.IF THE DUDE DONT WANT U LEAVE HIM ALONE.VICEVERSA FOR GIRLS MAN DAASASM.ITS NOT THAT HARD
@JamboGameplay
@JamboGameplay 4 жыл бұрын
dude was the image of kurt flashing his eyes really necessary i had just smoked a fat jay and that shit freaked me out
@theg4909
@theg4909 4 жыл бұрын
Jari Yeah same man, I had to wrap myself in a blanket to calm myself down
@danieladams8085
@danieladams8085 4 жыл бұрын
Having no freinds has nothing to do with killing himself. Maybe Courtney had him killed and figured hey if he had no freinds who would miss him or care to have it really investigated really good
@skelleytor
@skelleytor 5 жыл бұрын
Poor guy man....Super nice funny guy not depressed, like all the propaganda says. Such a bummer
@rmraiders24
@rmraiders24 5 жыл бұрын
Wish I had a time machine
@NoperDurden
@NoperDurden 7 жыл бұрын
who does that song at the end??
@jasonhudsona.k.a.johnberry1944
@jasonhudsona.k.a.johnberry1944 7 жыл бұрын
I put it together.
@niaboccaterpillar4159
@niaboccaterpillar4159 7 жыл бұрын
ooh courtney you are so mean
@sandrarock3708
@sandrarock3708 5 жыл бұрын
Wow
@studioguy2003
@studioguy2003 7 жыл бұрын
This was nothing new but I still liked hearing the facts again. C Love is Guiltily as Hell! I just wish the next thing you do you give the reader a little more time to read what you wrote. seems a little rushed and hard to keep up with what you were writing.
@ericharmon7163
@ericharmon7163 3 жыл бұрын
My question is why did nobody report hearing a gun shot. I am sure it would have rang out like a bomb going off in that neighborhood. Yet the cops didnt ask neighbors! And nobody reported it.
@amandamcewan54
@amandamcewan54 4 жыл бұрын
Shady as fuck
@ganzyjam2602
@ganzyjam2602 4 жыл бұрын
WOW so much drama, I wish Courney would blow her nose or take a decongestant.
@nunyabiznis817
@nunyabiznis817 5 жыл бұрын
Courtney love looks like Madonna and Joan Rivers had a baby.
@lisagraham2944
@lisagraham2944 4 жыл бұрын
Why would Courtney read that suicide note at is memorial. ? The so called suicide note. No respect for him whatsoever.
@terrytheman3317
@terrytheman3317 3 жыл бұрын
I think most people were surprised that she knew how to read
@444ltr
@444ltr 4 жыл бұрын
At one of her interviews Courtney Love actually snorted and smoked Kurt's ashes during the interview..... the hatred she has for Kurt is limitless.
@birdisthezv
@birdisthezv 5 жыл бұрын
They both had the same attorney facepalm
@Silentafterthought
@Silentafterthought 4 жыл бұрын
lies lies Courtney your day will come you can't run from the law forever
@sushikittyuwu
@sushikittyuwu 4 жыл бұрын
Who was the other ticket for was it kristen do you think they had an affair
@chiron8381
@chiron8381 3 жыл бұрын
That intervention is the biggest key to all of this. Band mate krist is another big key to all of this. Love knows what happen no doubt but she ended up getting played to where if anything she will always look shady and guilty. I really dont think kurt even left to got to rehab at all. Everyone was paid to say some bullshit to fill in a timeline. Anyone with any real family ties to kurt to really hear from him since intervention was his grandparents which was that same day. After that im sorry folks i feel we all got spun hard.
@terrytheman3317
@terrytheman3317 3 жыл бұрын
I think Courtney Love is one plastic surgery away from looking like El Duce