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Kuss VS. Vingegaard VS. Roglič | Vuelta a España | All In: Team Jumbo Visma
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Күн бұрынJumbo-Visma ploeggenoten Jonas Vingegaard, Sepp Kuss en Primoz Roglic strijden tegen elkaar tijdens de dertiende etappe van de Vuelta. Welke wielrenner heeft deze strijd gewonnen? Abonneer nu op het KZfaq kanaal ⇨ bit.ly/3jR2AGR
In een jaar vol strijd, drama en onverwachte wendingen probeert Team Jumbo-Visma het onmogelijke waar te maken: alle grote wielerrondes in één seizoen winnen. Met een ongekende mix van vastberadenheid, strategisch inzicht en teamwork navigeren zij door de etappes van de Tour de France, Giro d'Italia en Vuelta a España.
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@PrimeVideoNL 2 ай бұрын
Zou jij liever met Kuss, Vingegaard of Roglič een bergetappe in de Spaanse bergen rijden? ⛰
@rjvk1985 2 ай бұрын
Kuss 100%. Die andere twee naaien je een oor aan, al heb je je twee jaar lang de ballen uit de broek gereden voor ze.
@Aegis90 2 ай бұрын
Vingegaard :)
@matjazlikar3401 2 ай бұрын
Roglic
@jakobjas4212 2 ай бұрын
I'm forever a Mikel Landa fan because of this.
@joebennington 2 ай бұрын
“Follow me if you want to win the vuelta” coming from a rival team. Absolute cinema
@boytjeXD 2 ай бұрын
Legend
@Ryan97beyond 2 ай бұрын
Agreed! Now all i need to know is how to parcel a case of beer for Landa!
@odakism 2 ай бұрын
There are a lot of differing opinions on how this was handled, but everytime Sepp had to comment, he spoke with a level of professionalism not many could hold.
@XavierHipolito 2 ай бұрын
Not only that but with humble and kindness to everybody as well
@neyugn9448 2 ай бұрын
surprised how honest they are in presenting the whole situation. the 1-2-3 podium on the same team is truly unprecedented and despite all the conflicts i think they managed it well in the end to let sepp win
@EMC2Scotia 2 ай бұрын
They never let him win, he did it fair and square as part of a team strategy to send him up the road the day Evenepoel was in the race lead
@SvalbardSleeperDistrict 19 күн бұрын
@@EMC2Scotia I mean, it is undeniable that they did let him win in the sense that they let off the pedals in the closing stages after public outcry - had they kept doing what they did on the Angliru, he would not have won.
@brunodpm 2 ай бұрын
I am so sad for all the times I said bad things about Mikel Landa.
@manfrommontreal 2 ай бұрын
Now this is cycling unchained!
@karstenhuenich 2 ай бұрын
Please make it available in germany !🙏🙏🙏
@diverg3 2 ай бұрын
Petty example of when a team’s management are lacking leadership. Well done Sepp and chapeau Mikel!
@chiaracalabretti8108 2 ай бұрын
PLEASEEEE, MAKE IT AVAILABLE IN ITALY I BEG YOU!!!!
@sebastianlara9167 2 ай бұрын
Put it on in English!!
@Lockeness86 2 ай бұрын
KZfaq has auto captions that can translate to English
@telmolicious Ай бұрын
@@Lockeness86They dont though.. just Dutch.
@Whole_foods Ай бұрын
@@telmoliciousthere is English if you click on it in the settings and click auto-translate
@danielarribas5552 2 ай бұрын
Make it available in Spain!!!!
@Zawisza499 Ай бұрын
I like how Roglic was honest, he wanted to have a chance to win. JV he might be happy for Sepp but if he doesn't win vuelta in his career he might regret it. He was the strongest he could say I want to race and probably win. it's not like he will have hundreds of chances to win vuelta, he missed 1 out of 5-6 maybe.
@AlexRochette 2 ай бұрын
Is there an English or French version uploaded somewhere?
@EMC2Scotia 19 күн бұрын
This is a bit shortsighted. Think of all the races JV and Roglic won because of Kuss and the rest of their teammates
@juliaf.3366 2 ай бұрын
Please in Germany!
@HarryVerolme 2 ай бұрын
Bizarre beelden van de teamleiding. "Ja, wat doe je eraan?" Eh... afspreken dat ze Sepp niet aanvallen?
@ChrisLafferty03 2 ай бұрын
I know that cycling isnt the biggest in the USA but make it available in the USA because I want to watch it but for me to watch it i have to turn on the vpn then like wait 10 minutes for my computer to realize im in the netherlands then sign into prime again every time i try to watch an episode
@StarryNight007 2 ай бұрын
It's on Netflix now, 2nd season
@ChrisLafferty03 2 ай бұрын
@@StarryNight007 that’s Tour de France unchained which is different from All in jumbo visma
@dawnc5797 2 ай бұрын
Does that really work?
@ChrisLafferty03 2 ай бұрын
@@dawnc5797 it did work but it was annoying getting it to work
@danielhall1473 2 ай бұрын
Jonas saying he wanted to keep things the way they were and then dropping Sepp on 2 stages afterwards is rich. At least Primoz is honest about his ambition, and still backed off on stage 16 when he saw he was pulling other riders up ahead of Sepp.
@henriksylvestolsen4885 2 ай бұрын
Jonas attacked to ensure that he would win in case Sepp was dropped.
@Dalmore420 2 ай бұрын
@@henriksylvestolsen4885 stupid excuses, just to benefit himself
@brunodpm 2 ай бұрын
Agree, Jonas was super hypocrite
@footballshirtlegitcheck 2 ай бұрын
Agree, when you said something but doing another things that the problem. Just said you want to win it and if you want it.
@handleless85 2 ай бұрын
Actually if you would have watched closely, you see that the team instructs them to race for it and only then he goes for it. I also don't think his team would let him get away with lying about initially wanting to keep things as they are.
@haldanb 2 ай бұрын
why isn't this available outside benelux? USA please?
@natn738 Күн бұрын
Sepp always gave his heart to his teammates. JV supposed to at least get the idea of Sepp hard work for him . Primo has zero loyalty and is a backstabber . Good sep won with the help of another team rider what a time of test .JV last word we supposed to wait Sepp was a Dans being rich . Primo was beaten by fairness .
@edgarcarrasco3453 2 ай бұрын
The face Jonas made as he looked backed at Kuss being dropped or follow Roglic was disheartening, Roglic put both Kuss and Jonas in bad positions just to jump ship to Bora. Landa definitely won gold in the race in my opinion!!
@GregaJuvancic Ай бұрын
You think? Acctually it was Jonas who started all of this mess in the previous stages. On Angliru I believe Roglic only went for stage win, there was no way he would have borught in 1:30 on Kuss, Jonas however was again the problem being only 0:29 down in GC. Had he waitied with Sepp insted on holding Roglic wheel, there wouldnt be any panic in the first place. And this Vuelta and how it was handled by Jumbo staff is the reason Roglic "jumped ship", as you put it.
@Jan-ds2hg 2 ай бұрын
Still bad Feeling in my stomage when seeing vingegaard attacking seppi ... Why?
@jmsytbe 2 ай бұрын
Him and Primoz were heroically trying to protect the integrity of the sport, and prevent it from turning into pro wrestling soap opera BS. Sadly, the Twitter outrage mob was loud enough to scare the team management into gifting the win to a mediocre water carrier whose biggest advantage was that he has the "right" nationality.
@jacobmaldonado3951 2 ай бұрын
Can we get this translated an out on all prime streaming
@SabrinskySoIntense Ай бұрын
wish there was a version with english subtitles!!!!!!
@ijorhojfd55 Ай бұрын
use auto-translate on the video player
@SabrinskySoIntense Ай бұрын
@@ijorhojfd55 the auto translate doesnt make sense and isnt in time with whats happening on screen
@herrachso13 2 ай бұрын
Why no english subtitles?
@StarryNight007 2 ай бұрын
Notice how it says Amzon Prime, Netherlands. Maybe that's why.
@ijorhojfd55 Ай бұрын
use auto-translate on the video player
@iranmoriff 2 ай бұрын
For me, its a team sport when your best rider is fighting with the best riders from other teams. But once the podium places are secured, surely it doesn’t hurt to let the riders from the same team fight it out as long as it doesn’t jeopardise the team winning the title.
@Breesey 2 ай бұрын
Why can't we watch this in the UK?!?!
@uwimanalowami406 2 ай бұрын
The visma directors are the guys at fault here.
@FlorenVL Ай бұрын
indeed, they were way too late to seal the GC, but luckily kuss kept 8 seconds advantage
@marinolman 2 ай бұрын
How do u get English Subtitles for this? I gotta hear this shit show
@jabrielramos19 2 ай бұрын
its better to roglic to be in bora, cuz he is strong too. they cant be in same team with jonas, wout, sepp. they are all superstars hungry of titles.
@natn738 Күн бұрын
He will end up winning nothing with Bora .
@amethysts2 2 ай бұрын
What's with all the Sepp bashing, all the riders seem to think he deserved the win
@ronm9357 2 ай бұрын
They don't understand how professorial cycling works. For example, if PR was in the leader's jersey and was having a bad day and falling behind and SK was in front, none of them would say SK should attack. That's _exactly_ what PR did and what they're cheering.
@markpeterson3608 2 ай бұрын
2024 year of karma
@Nick-rz6vq 2 ай бұрын
ehh bedankt hoor, groetjes uit switzerland🫶🙌🏻
@zyzz2011playlist 2 ай бұрын
Sooooo badly handled by the DS... unbelievable..... Damnx. Shouting that they have no choice is stupid. Infact - they are the DS. This is more embarassing then I imagined
@DK-vw1of 2 ай бұрын
Slechte ploegleiding hoor, geen controle durven te nemen.
@adamdvorak3483 2 ай бұрын
the one who is at fault most is jumbo management. this was handled terribly, if I am Sepp I would leave Jumbo after this.
@JR-yr6gr 2 ай бұрын
🎁🎁🎁🎁🎁🎁🎁🎁
@marinolman 2 ай бұрын
Jumbo looked like a heartless, spoiled and selfish team... The Vuelta was a lock, so then why attack your rider? You should be all into protect your leader at all costs. But instead you're attacking him...even the team could tell it didn't feel right, so then why do it? This looked like a team devoid of true leadership that was scared of their top riders. Especially everything Sepp did for them? This was how you plan to repay him? This is also a team that was desperately looking for new sponsorship, and this is the type of team culture you show them? What a 🤡 show.
@tomasvandenhoogen9230 27 күн бұрын
Primoz isnt a Nice Guy
@muscr2082 2 ай бұрын
They didnt "gift" kuss the win, after stage 17 neither jonas or roglic could have beaten him. You can see later kuss dropped him but held back after jonas went on the radio
@Elidan19 2 ай бұрын
You can always say about the best should win, but how can someone like Visma after this show?
@johnvanlaar6547 2 ай бұрын
Kuss is not a real top rider. Vinegaard and Roglic are top players. They should never have let Kuss win the Vuelta.
@jmsytbe 2 ай бұрын
Truth.
@tristanowens3705 2 ай бұрын
It's not "they." It's only Jonas, and it was his choice before management showed up. Roglic could not have never beaten Jonas, and that's it. It was Jonas's gift to give, and he gave it. I wonder why that upsets some of his fans. Separately, if Roglic fans are honest with themselves, they'll realize he wouldn't have beaten Kuss either at that point. No stage 6, of course Roglic beats Kuss, but after Angliru, Roglic wasn't going to find another 1:15
@zyzz2011playlist 2 ай бұрын
You must have missed the point - that Kuss rode his lungs out on 2 previous grand tours the same season to get the wins for Vingego and Roglic! That information you miss - this guy rode the most difficult cycling calendar to make others win.
@denmark2680 2 ай бұрын
@@zyzz2011playlistWho is Vingego???
@SvalbardSleeperDistrict 19 күн бұрын
It's exactly the opposite. Everyone - fans, teams, riders - have the full right to decide that someone should be helped and allowed to win based on who they are as a personality, how many wins they have enabled for their leaders as a domestique over the years, and what effort they are making in comparison to their ability, just as much as others have the right to only use the "real top rider" metric based on power meters or whatever.
@vespacapetown5137 2 ай бұрын
Bit of a cringe fest lol
@adammajczak5256 2 ай бұрын
I don't understand why Sepp is still in jumbo. Cycling is a teamsport but your our fellas are deciding to attack red jersey? I still don't get it how selfish roglic and vingegaard were.
@mellevenema1245 2 ай бұрын
Vingegaard wanted Sepp to win it, but Roglič wanted to win himself. This is also why Jonas didn't attack Roglič on that last stage, as he would have won it then. I think this is a big reason why Roglič isn't in the team anymore.
@jmsytbe 2 ай бұрын
Sepp is a nice guy and a decent rider, but on no other team in the world would he ever even come close to winning a GT. He does not have that amount of talent, or even anything close to it. He's still with the team because to leave it would mean consigning himself to utter mediocrity for the rest of his career. When you're getting the benefit of being the first rider in history to literally be gifted a GT, you're in no position to make demands.
@cartermoth6447 2 ай бұрын
@@mellevenema1245 That's propaganda. Vingegaard attacked Kuss on the Tourmalet and Bejes. He almost took the jersey. The rest is just spin from Jumbo to present Vingegaard & Kuss as the good guys.
@jmsytbe 2 ай бұрын
@@cartermoth6447 Nobody involved in this farce is anything close to a "good guy". Jonas and Primoz should have destroyed Sepp and turned him into roadkill, like great athletes are supposed to do to mediocre ones. The rest is just pro wrestling nonsense, and nobody over the age of 13 has any excuse to care or be invested in any way at all.
@cartermoth6447 2 ай бұрын
@@jmsytbe The team car was beyond stupid. They took the winner of the Giro & the winner of the Tour in the same team... & then grossly overestimated Evenepoel. That's how Kuss 'won' the Vuelta, aka time gained via getting in a breakaway to put pressure on Quick Step. So the team tactics screwed Rog & Vingegaard as early as week 1.
@lucar7758 2 ай бұрын
Kuss didnt deserve to win. Team decided to let him win. Primoz Did Well to Race honestly. Here he is described as the bad guy Who brokes a friendship but he was there to race, not to play.
@jmsytbe 2 ай бұрын
Middling athletes like Kuss are there to be destoyed by great ahtletes like Jonas and Primoz. When that doesn't happen, because of external considerations about PR, it stops being a real sport and becomes WWE-style "sports entertainment" instead.
@HarryVerolme 2 ай бұрын
Evidently the team decided not to interfere. If it wasn't for the help of Mikel Landa and Sepp's grit, he wouldn't have won the race.
@LooseANDplay 2 ай бұрын
@@HarryVerolmeHelp of Landa? According to Kuss, Landa didn't pull him. Kuss was staying behind to not to lead Landa to Vinge and Roglič😂
@HarryVerolme 2 ай бұрын
@@LooseANDplay Did you watch the video? "if you want to win the Vuelta, follow me" @ 20:00
@jmsytbe 2 ай бұрын
@@LooseANDplay That's because Kuss, despite his unearned reputation, is not actually a humble or modest guy. His 2024 season so far has been utter trash, yet he's still out there talking like he's a legit GC favorite. Just a few weeks ago he was talking about how he hoped JV made it to the Tour, because this would further increase Sepp's own chance of victory. Meanwhile, in the real world, every ocean on the planet will dry up before Sepp ever wins the Tour.
@jmsytbe 2 ай бұрын
Sepp is a good rider, and a likable guy, but letting the Twitter outrage mob literally decide a GT and gift what should be one of the great honors of sports to a rider of his caliber has tarnished the sport of cycling permanently. It's more similar to pro wrestling than real sports now. Even the age of doping did not demean and degrade the sport as much as this, because at least all that doping was done in the pursuit of victory by all means. Devaluing the very concept of victory in sports, for the sake of soap opera storylines and American PR points, is much, MUCH worse than that.
@rubenvo3627 2 ай бұрын
You speak like someone who has never participated in any team sports.
@jmsytbe 2 ай бұрын
@@rubenvo3627 I speak like someone who still has a shred of integrity. Most people cannot relate.
@HarryVerolme 2 ай бұрын
This is a hilarious comment considering doping exists.
@dawnc5797 2 ай бұрын
This was about JV winning three GTs in one season by three different riders AND the same three riders on the podium at the end of this race. Not a record to be broken any time soon, if ever. Plugge and the major sponsors had to be thinking about the PR and he and told the DS to make sure Kuss won. That was my thought at the time. After watching this I'm not sure since I couldn't understand what was being said by Zeeman and anyone else not speaking english. It looked like Grischa didn't agree with what was happening but had to follow orders. I hope this will be put out with english subtitles so I can watch it again and understand everything being said.
@SvalbardSleeperDistrict 19 күн бұрын
Rewarding sportsmanship, respect and effort by supporting your domestique to win does the opposite of "devaluing" things - it shows how some sports enable demonstrations that there are things that are more important than power meters, pedal stroke stats and even sports itself. Just like GC leaders are not attacked by teammates when they are struggling, the fans made their feelings know that Kuss, as the GC leader, should be extended the same treatment he had offered for years to enable GT wins for Roglic and Vingegaard. This ridiculous clownery of insane hyperbolissation of what happened at the Vuelta only speaks about its author, their complete inability to involve balance and nuance in their claims, and their deranged views on values in life.
@zrna1072 2 ай бұрын
Team management has no POWER. They should do the Order to everyone protect Sepp, before the AUDIENCE realize they (Team management, Jonas and Roglic) are a peace of SHI... inglorious. Thanks to Mikel Landa, Congrats Sepp. But hey Sepp, I knoow is your ob, but hell, dont work for Joans this year as hard you always did. Let him lost for Tadej
@tjakooo7682 Ай бұрын
Jonas pulled at a stage and told Sepp S-holdet ayosy when he attacked, Jonas did go for stage Win not gc
@justiceyesco4789 2 ай бұрын
Arrogantie verblind het menselijke ...
@user-vm1gq5vg4q 2 ай бұрын
actually the battle is between jonas and sepp. because no way roglic can beat jonas time. looks like roglic doesn't want sepp to win
@cyclismclub6778 2 ай бұрын
The footage is here, your Boy is a hyporcrite
@adamdvorak3483 2 ай бұрын
this shows the true personality of jonas and roglic compared to pogi who is much more of a champion than both of them combined. jonas especially is a two faced crook
@jmsytbe 2 ай бұрын
Pogacar's whole image and personality is constructed, it's all a carefully managed PR facade. He's as phony as they come, like the cycling version of Drake. People with life experience see right through it. It's real helpsome too, having a rep of being just a nice boy who just likes to ride his bike gosh darnit, when you're riding for THAT team, run by THOSE people. Keeps people from asking questions that a less likable rider in his position would be bombarded with. Roglic was honest and showed the most integrity of all, he wanted to race for it just like they should have done, but the Jumbo cowards were too scared of Twitter.
@SvalbardSleeperDistrict 19 күн бұрын
What the absolute heck are you talking about - Jonas, who said he wanted to keep things in favour of Kuss but had both Roglic and the team overrule him and decide they would race - is less of a champion than Pogacar, who went for it when Jonas slid at the Tour a few years ago, minutes before Jonas did the ultimate in sportsmanship when it was Pogacar's turn to go to the ground? Some people's blind fandom and invented sectarian narratives that go against every fact and evidence is just pure, unadulterated cringe to read.
@MrTbayles2 2 ай бұрын
Poor Roglic
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