Why Genshin Players Are QUITTING For Wuthering Waves ! Genshin Impacts Biggest Issues

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KydroTV

KydroTV

Ай бұрын

Players have now experienced from Wuthering Waves what it means as a game company, to treat their players better. In This video i talk about genshins BIGGEST FLAWS & Reasons why players stopped playing - and slowly move over to the competitor game wuthering waves.
This is a follow up video to this one : • After Playing Wutherin...
"After Playing Wuthering Waves Genshin Just feels Bad To Play"
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@princessochka3690
@princessochka3690 Ай бұрын
What do you mean "you will never see that NPC again"? You will see that exact NPC in 100 other quests, wearing different clothes and wigs 🤣.
@javelin7922
@javelin7922 Ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@joehanz9217
@joehanz9217 Ай бұрын
😂
@lisviero79
@lisviero79 Ай бұрын
meanwhile in Wuwa:Lezz go Ganxue and Koko
@Khann_2102
@Khann_2102 Ай бұрын
​@@lisviero79Maqi
@KaylaH10
@KaylaH10 Ай бұрын
This is so GOOD ngl 😂❤
@Akira909-
@Akira909- Ай бұрын
In Wuthering Waves, even when my objective is far away, I like to walk to it instead of teleporting because the game's movement is so satisfying. Running without the stamina limit, always jumping and running on walls is super fun!
@meowk123
@meowk123 Ай бұрын
How is it compare from walking in sumeru dessert?
@pangs2aupangs113
@pangs2aupangs113 Ай бұрын
This. I always find myself doing this
@joehanz9217
@joehanz9217 Ай бұрын
Giga Jump trick was Insane 😂
@bbluesquare
@bbluesquare Ай бұрын
the grappling hook at the ability to run on walls is so damn fun. fuck genshin
@lisviero79
@lisviero79 Ай бұрын
same with me, then while walking I then proceed to destroy/farm echoes with the mobs I encounter.
@saramgr2880
@saramgr2880 Ай бұрын
I played daily commission on genshin and my god those skippable dialogues option on wuwa ruined genshin for me.
@CorneredCat0
@CorneredCat0 Ай бұрын
Same here, I get so irritated when I can't skip the dialog, wuwa has ruined genshin for me as well 😅
@KaylaH10
@KaylaH10 Ай бұрын
Yes!
@pauloazuela8488
@pauloazuela8488 Ай бұрын
Imagine doing the same daily quest and you have no way to skip it and that specific daily have tons of dialogue. It ruined my day when doing that. With Wuwa if I already knew I pressed skip
@cjvaans4484
@cjvaans4484 Ай бұрын
Funny thing there's only one daily commision in the game and you can skip it. While on Genshin I keep pressing the spacebar to skip the dialogues.
@mikairu2944
@mikairu2944 Ай бұрын
@@cjvaans4484 the SINGLE DAILY that takes as much as 10 seconds when it's a mob kill mission doesn't even register on me. On genshin doing the dailies for the dogshit rewards always felt insulting
@Lucisev_
@Lucisev_ Ай бұрын
I mean I enjoyed Genshin. Reactions system is pretty great, but the game does have a lot to improve that they never did until recently. I stopped playing in Fontaine because I don't think the game was going in the direction I'd like. They seem to care more about making pointless puzzles that are badly explained than anything else. Then Natlan teaser dropped. Do they think we so badly wanted to play as baby dinosaurs now? I mean, sure, some do. But I can't, after playing as Crownless in Illusive Realms. He might be a tutorial boss, but is a freaking badass.
@MarionFR
@MarionFR Ай бұрын
Reaction system is very bad, it doesn't even make sense. Most of the time it doesn't really matter much what element and reaction you will use. There is a whole element - geo, that is practically useless. Freeze is designed pretty badly, superconduct too... Do reactions really make sense when you are just getting specific characters like Chevy or Navia? What is even the point of overload or crystalize? There is many teams that don't even use reactions too much or it's so random like with Navia. So where is this argument that Genshin has advantage of reactions really?... It only had a huge potential, it could lead to more tactical combat, but unfortunately was messed up a big time.
@Andre-0207
@Andre-0207 Ай бұрын
@@MarionFR you're kidding right? Did you even play the same genshin everyone else did? Reaction are the most important aspect of the game. Without vaporize and melt early game noone would manage anything. Without dendro and electro reactions dps damage celiling would still be as they were in 2021. Chevreuse quite literally made overload more viable, and she is a 4*. She put the viridscent buffs in a team with no anemo character, and you can run multiple dps characters in the same team thanks to her. There's literally two entire artifact set revolving around crystallize. If you think navia's reactions are "random" then you have no idea how she works. Sure, mono-element teams exist but they are first of all very few, and also more often than not rely on a buffer that can swirl with viridescent, so they aren't just devoid of reactions.
@MarionFR
@MarionFR Ай бұрын
@@Andre-0207 Better share how does rice from Hoyo taste. Hope it's really good for all this insane yapping. Chevreuse has nothing to do with what overload reaction is, Navia - with crystalize. It's just random buff. Thank you for proving that Jenshiet reaction system is horrible and makes no sense, that's it.
@Andre-0207
@Andre-0207 Ай бұрын
@@MarionFR If you think Chevreuse didn't make overload good and Navia doesn't take full advantage of crystallize, then clearly you can't read. And also, calling me a glazer means nothing when you're here liking your own comments, hypocrite. Meanwhile, are those 65 subs feeding you? How does it feel to run an irrelevant gaming channel destined to mediocrity? 😁 "Yapping" genz kid moment, you can't even talk without using slang. Go read a book, if you can afford one (which i doubt since those 65 viewers ain't getting you anywhere)
@Andre-0207
@Andre-0207 Ай бұрын
@@MarionFR self like and anime pfp detected opinion rejcted. How does it feel to run an irrelevant gaming channel with barely 70 viewers? Do they feed you with it? 😆
@challengergames5624
@challengergames5624 Ай бұрын
i stopped whaling in genshin now i am whaling in wuwa only
@kydro
@kydro Ай бұрын
based
@GhostyZGod
@GhostyZGod Ай бұрын
Same
@happystabbedman6857
@happystabbedman6857 Ай бұрын
Thank you for your support by whaling to the company 😆😆😆
@hitagisenjougahara2651
@hitagisenjougahara2651 Ай бұрын
get help
@Carlos-qg2me
@Carlos-qg2me Ай бұрын
gigachad
@Valstrael
@Valstrael Ай бұрын
the npc were one of the nails for me, they try so hard for us to like characters that are low poly and lame in comparison to the main characters. watching mountain shaper and moon carver reveal their humans form to be the most bland forgetable characters. jecht and tadhla being just recolors (although they are still cool). then theres wuwa when even the npcs look like someone you would like to play.
@takebacktheholyland9306
@takebacktheholyland9306 Ай бұрын
An interesting thing Kuro did with P:GR is that they use their npcs for future characters meaning most of the characters releases came from NPCs, and I wonder if they'll do the same for WuWa
@triplecatnip7413
@triplecatnip7413 Ай бұрын
Even Star Rail which has the same problem of bland looking npcs did something cool and gave Siobhan a unique model. She looks great. The least Genshin could do is to make one cool and unique npc per patch, be it for an event, story quest or the main story
@user-pc2zd6gx6f
@user-pc2zd6gx6f 21 күн бұрын
Agree in this, i even fell in love with Maqi & Ganxue. Then immediately realized they are just a mere NPC
@LycanMOON
@LycanMOON 16 күн бұрын
@@triplecatnip7413don’t forget Micah,the new endgame lady They didnt have to do that for apocalyptic shadow but they made a cool model,and I respect that
@Zer0Hour17
@Zer0Hour17 Ай бұрын
It’s simple. 3 and a half years of not just ignoring the player base, but actually listening but adding what people want to HSR. The only thing keeping people from dropping Genshin for HSR was some people don’t like turn based. Now that there is another action option, why the fuck would anyone keep playing genshin?
@glovs4188
@glovs4188 Ай бұрын
Exactly me. Everytime i see an enemy in hsr i feel like logging out. Whereas everytime i see enemy in genshin i rush to it, rushing like jogging i mean. Now wuwa is out and im like sprinting through 1 camp to another.
@Syiepherze
@Syiepherze Ай бұрын
I'm only playing it for the story lol 🤷 I've already come to terms with the fact that the changes everyone wants to see will not be added for a long time, if at all
@Zer0Hour17
@Zer0Hour17 Ай бұрын
@@Syiepherze But the story is ass 90% of the time. Like yeah you get spikes of 9/10 like 3.2 and 4.2, but the rest of the time it's like a 3/10 and there's no skip button.
@Khann_2102
@Khann_2102 Ай бұрын
​@@Zer0Hour17Exactly, the lore is great but the delivery of the story is... Somewhat abysmal
@neuneru
@neuneru Ай бұрын
I personally don't like turn-based game, but I still gave HSR a try. And just as I expected, I didn't like it no matter how generous they are, simply because I don't like turn-based game. So yeah, your statement is true for me.
@nightstar475
@nightstar475 Ай бұрын
I been telling people that if Genshin are not changing NOW (back a few months ago) it will be way too late by the time Wuwa came out, I played PGR, I know what Kuro are capable off, and yeah, everything played out exactly as I expected it to
@maxxvii2037
@maxxvii2037 Ай бұрын
Genshin's worst performing banner ever still outsold 99% of other Gachas in the market What "too late" are you talking about exactly?
@hidekuchan8525
@hidekuchan8525 Ай бұрын
@@maxxvii2037 The only reason Genshin is the most popular gacha is that it had no competitors during the COVID era when gacha first became mainstream. Hence, Genshin was the first gacha for most players. Other than the shitty EN voice acting, optimization issues on mobile, and subpar storyline, every aspect of WuWa is objectively better than Genshin.
@absolutelyabsolute4671
@absolutelyabsolute4671 Ай бұрын
​@@maxxvii2037 revenues doesn't speak for a game's quality. AC Valhalla earned a lot compared to other AC titles. Is it a good game? Yes. Is it a good Assassins Creed Game? No
@shawnevolved3610
@shawnevolved3610 Ай бұрын
@@maxxvii2037 that will probably change soon since even hsr another hoyo game is treating players better. and recently other players are switching to other gachas due to how stale genshin is now (pgr, arknights, blue archive, WuWa, etc) once players start to see that there are better games majority will switch or just stop playing genshin. the only players that will stay are people who spent alot of time in the game and already spent so much money that they feel demotivated to switch.
@Frailchip
@Frailchip Ай бұрын
​@@maxxvii2037 I heard they lost like 50% of their revenue from last month in Mobile sales. I think it was like 120 million down to somewhere around 70-60 million?
@jaderabbit898
@jaderabbit898 Ай бұрын
I think the best thing about mountain climbing in WuWa is that even if it's too high for you to climb up there until you ran out of stamina, there are ways to circumvent it like with specific Echoes that gives you flight, the Grapple that can give you a slight boost, mountains will always have ledges where you can fall safely to regain stamina, jump canceling, etc. There's just so much mobility options and boon it feels really nice to explore the world.
@yoimiyasimping1054
@yoimiyasimping1054 Ай бұрын
when you know the movement mechanics in wuwa you can literally jump 10 times and dash 3 to 5 times in the air and it makes me feel like im good at the game. while genshin just made me feel like i made questionable financial decisions
@MarionFR
@MarionFR Ай бұрын
Very nice summary
@Andre-0207
@Andre-0207 Ай бұрын
Whats the use of dashing 3 to 5 times in the air? Yeah, none. You'd much rather dash on the ground, especially in combat. Which is not different from Genshin other than getting some weak counteratrack which has almost always more endlag, less damage and generally puts you in a worse spot you were in before. Even parrying is unreliable, sure you can stop an attack but if the boss can just restart the attack the chances of getting more than one parry in sequence narrows
@MarionFR
@MarionFR Ай бұрын
@@Andre-0207 🤣🤣 insane Genshin stan sees no point in fun movement for exploration or just because. Has no idea about combat with use jumps or grapple, cause you should need Xianyun for that right? 🤯 and can't comprehend combat with counter attacks and dodges. Watch them poor small heads explode when trying to understand that good games, high quality and respect for players exist 🤯🤯🤯
@Andre-0207
@Andre-0207 Ай бұрын
@@MarionFR ? There is literally no situation where you use grapple in combat, unless you hame some kind of buff that you get when you use it you're better off jumping and plunging (which is also a dps loss unless used as an emergency parry in few character cases, you're better off swapping to someonewho can parry) Also funny how you say "i dont comprehend combat with dodge and parry" where i quite literally stated they are not a hard thing to pull off. 0 reading and comprehension skill, as expected of a gacha game player. Even more funny how you mention "high quality" for Wuthering Waves where quality is anything but the main thing. Where's Wuthering Waves "quality" when it comes to voice acting (you dont need to be a genshin stan to understand that wuwa could've done a better job at it)? Or in the OSTs (the music is mediocre at best, the only good music is the log in theme LOL. Ironic for a game which revolves around "soundwaves")? Or in the lore (game has little to no relevan tlore)? Or in the character design (they all look the same grayscaled mess)? Keep seething Wuthering Waves glazer. You can't even accept fair and justified critique, because kurogames bribed you with its charity 😅. I pity kids like you.
@MarionFR
@MarionFR Ай бұрын
@@Andre-0207 Jenshiet stan keep making circus 🤣 Please continue, you are doing best job to show sane people what this craziness is about 👌🤭
@someguy1315
@someguy1315 Ай бұрын
You another thing I starting to notice. Tea pot never sell you new plants seed for ascension materials any more after liyue. Adventure guild never let you auto mining new ore from new region any more and let you gather more daily junk stuff instead.
@youness4247
@youness4247 Ай бұрын
It's so shamefull from such a big company to forget these minor QoL improvement that would go a looong way If they were consistent ...
@elinamanansi5508
@elinamanansi5508 Ай бұрын
so true!
@lqfr8813
@lqfr8813 Ай бұрын
@@youness4247 i think this is the case when someone suddenly gets a lot of money, their behaviour changes. they start to not care what they initially do and go to sleep with bare minimum content loop
@youness4247
@youness4247 Ай бұрын
@@lqfr8813 It's not that their behaviour changes, but their true identity gets exposed..
@SavageRodent
@SavageRodent Ай бұрын
I don't want to defend Genshit, but you can plant seeds for ascension materials from regions after Liyue. I'm not sure if there's one from Sumeru, but I know there's at least one from Inazuma and one from Fontaine.
@Nvcho_
@Nvcho_ Ай бұрын
exploring on genshin after playing wuwa is just painful. i love genshin but you're right about every single flaw. imma still play this game but if kuro games keep cooking it might be the real "genshin killer "
@OrRaino
@OrRaino Ай бұрын
I read somewhere : " Sure it's not a Genshin killer but Wuthering waves killed Genshin for me " and as the days passes it makes more sense.
@motokaichou2010
@motokaichou2010 Ай бұрын
yeah, imo WuWa really kills Genshin on an individual level
@blueberry7478
@blueberry7478 29 күн бұрын
It will never be the "Genshin killer" you wish for. It will just be a typical gacha rog open world sharing the same univers as PGR en that it. A competitor ok, but why do you Ge shin players with to another game to come and kill your "Favorite" game. Why not put your complaints in the stores or their Twitter page to listen to you, just like we do withWuwua. Developers listen, so give them some time. With Kuro, we take our time because they will respond to us. We know that. So don't hate Genshin. You are still playing it because you love it, don't hide and hate it. (Otherwise, you will look toxic towards your own community)
@roronoazoro9952
@roronoazoro9952 29 күн бұрын
@@blueberry7478 genshin devs dont listen to anything u dont know what ur yapping about stfu
@creepmist927
@creepmist927 28 күн бұрын
​@@blueberry7478 the problem is that it has been 4 years and genshin only changes here and then, not even on the biggest issues. They don't listen much, because if they truly did, the game wouldn't be the same as it is today (of course we don't mention the people complaining for nothing) Sure, the game has it own style and is now an enjoyable game, but wuwa will never kill genshin because only genshin can kill itself (and already does). Wuwa is indeed a typical gacha rog open world, but so is genshin and your comment is true about that, it should become a positive competition for both ! I think most people just want genshin to fail so that they start cooking again, they left the kitchen too long ago and the plate they give us is cold now. A mixture of frustration and lost potential, as well as the denial of players who don't want to abandon a game they gave time and attention to for years now.
@Frailchip
@Frailchip Ай бұрын
11:50 You should check out the ending of Lingyangs storyquest. They legit made a cutscene specific to him waving and saying goodbye.
@m.raihanammarfachrezixpplg7898
@m.raihanammarfachrezixpplg7898 Ай бұрын
Screw that, they literally also made Scar walking backward and the card portal spawn behind him, with the IN GAME cutscene
@EGO.BReAKERR
@EGO.BReAKERR Ай бұрын
Fr man. WuWa is this good in 1.0 Can't wait to see it in its first anni
@Khann_2102
@Khann_2102 Ай бұрын
@@m.raihanammarfachrezixpplg7898 Bro stop you're gonna make me whale for him 😭
@LisaHarmond
@LisaHarmond Ай бұрын
One thing that riled me up in Genshin is the monsters if you somehow come across bandits and monsters theyll all gang up on you monsters are territorial they should be fighting each other too ...abyss mage? teaming up with bandits gimme a break...In Wuthering waves you'll come across monsters beating each other senseless sometimes even in different coloured groups
@toukoenriaze9870
@toukoenriaze9870 Ай бұрын
ye it does make the world feel more alive
@lqfr8813
@lqfr8813 Ай бұрын
@@toukoenriaze9870 i saw the bandit mob that is sleeping but when i come alerting his other friends, he didnt care, scratch his butt and go back sleeping rofl. i never thought a simple mob can make me laugh
@COBRAMANTISDOTXXX
@COBRAMANTISDOTXXX Ай бұрын
Even if you interrupt their squabble, they will still not team up on you, and it just becomes a free for all chaos mess.
@ljunljun6354
@ljunljun6354 Ай бұрын
The monster has some kind of attitude too, when 4 wolves or that pig monsters gang up on me, I killed 3 of them, the last one will try to run away
@LalalalaMhie
@LalalalaMhie Ай бұрын
That is awesome to be honest, and when you teleport to the entrance of monkey boss (Beilan), I always encounter a monkey vs monkey battle. I always watch them before I enter the boss lair. 😂😂
@Sam-jm8vi
@Sam-jm8vi Ай бұрын
WW: - Skip dialogue option for non-plot-related quests is a golden button for us. - Movement mechanic makes you feel like you are an Olympics parkour champion ( not sure if that exist or not ) - The bosses fight makes you feel alive... Doesn't matter how strong your build is, you still need some skills instead of Zhongli E , Nahida E, Ei E and Nevuillete burst and E, and then everything dies. - Farming Echos (AKA artifacts) is super fun, man even when I get Def Echo i don't get angry lol. you can keep doing it nonstop, while still getting busy fighting bosses and you don't need to spend a drop of energy. even the sub-stats rates are actually way better. - the MC is absolutely badass. it is still new released game and the MC is truly so strong (Havoc), he is fun to play with his and his burst is just Boom Kafka-style damage-wise like. Unlike the mute (who doesn't say anything all the time and Paimon is his F mouth) all known all strong yet useless as Genshin Impact Traveller we have there. - Rewards. I feel so enraged that I don't need to write anything about this part. I got 5 stars 5 characters the first week and I paid nothing, it is not even about luck. that's a release gift, Imagine an Anniversary? Impact cough cough couggggggh!!!! - Characters designs are way mature and different from each other and quite interesting unlike copy paste Genshin, Honkai , Star Rail Blender that they keep putting from each other and kids still use their dad credit card to buy them, make huge hype about them and OF COURSE make them the centre of sexual content. - Characters farming materials is quite simple in Wuthering Waves, you don't have to go around the whole map to get some flowers, then beg other random players in co-op to get the rest of the flowers and check shops to get some more flowers just to rank the new character 10 more levels. and Genshin even makes the new characters mats now unavailable so you farm the hell out of the new area. and not before it. The open world is a huge pride and joy of Genshin yet huge issue. After unlocking stuff in new area. the area basically die. When was the last time you visited The Chasm? Enkanomiya? Dragonspine? Wuthering Waves map is still playable even after fully unlocking it simply because either you are searching for that sneaky fella echo hiding somewhere to increase your data bank, echo boss you want to farm, some materials you are trying to get, or few flowers you want to use to upgrade a character ( OMG i just remembered the horror of farming flowers in 100 random players map to increase the cap of Genshin character just 10 lol). - The summoning system is way better in Wuthering Waves, and I am clearly talking about the weapon banner. The weapon is ALWAYS guaranteed. remember how many years you've been crying to get a single MONA, DILUC after playing for over 2 years? it is okay, Wuthering waves gives you a freaking character selector card to enjoy. and guess what? it won't make you the biggest whale and the game won't lose money and get bankrupt, it just makes you HAPPY while playing, which is the essence of playing any video game. That says it all. - The random chest rewards that you open in Wuthering waves is quite rewarding. Remember when you did this loooooooooooooooong side quest in Genshin Impact then they gave you a 5 gems chest? or when you had to be archeologist and discover the hell out of cave slopes, tunnels and all of that just to open that tiny hidden 10 gems chest? yeah, good times. The list is too big that I got bored writing already LOL. I wish you all a satisfying time while playing Wuthering Waves of Genshin Impact or even LIFELESS ZONE, I mean Zenless Zone... For me? I am done whaling in Genshin and spending money anymore there. F them ^^. PS: Pin please if this was helpful to other players. Wish you all the best of luck.
@ssarellas
@ssarellas Ай бұрын
there are 1300 comments, nobody is gonna read your comment lol
@ThepursuitofHappiness-fb8iy
@ThepursuitofHappiness-fb8iy 28 күн бұрын
bruh zzz not even released, give it a try. Also male rover is better than female in cutscenes
@RejectedInch
@RejectedInch 25 күн бұрын
@@ssarellas you sure about that?
@RejectedInch
@RejectedInch 25 күн бұрын
@@ThepursuitofHappiness-fb8iy it may be the ONLY game that is not recycling for the 5th time the same old trite assets from HI3 precursor, but still hard pass. Why do you think they're giving away 100 free pulls? The CBT1 and CBT2 reviews literally blasted that game. ( at least the people that didn't get hypnotized by pixel bouncing boobs blasted it)
@ThepursuitofHappiness-fb8iy
@ThepursuitofHappiness-fb8iy 24 күн бұрын
@@RejectedInch hoyo doesn't need to do anything and their simps like you will volunteer defending them. Volunteer more bro
@hankieski1549
@hankieski1549 Ай бұрын
Loving the meme: “genshin would never…” Also, I really like your content kydro!
@AnbuNinjaMask
@AnbuNinjaMask Ай бұрын
playing wuwa is like driving an automatic car, why go back to manual if automatic gives you comfort, fun, quality of life, less stress, etc.
@Andre-0207
@Andre-0207 Ай бұрын
Driving an "automatic car" is also belittled by many car drivers because it feels like "the feature was dumbed down for even the less smart to use"
@AnbuNinjaMask
@AnbuNinjaMask Ай бұрын
@@Andre-0207 wtf are you still in hooked in the past? that argument is long time ago, you can't give that excuse c'mon its 2024. i personally did drive manual car to automatic, if you are a driver then you know what i mean.
@Jianxinenjoyer
@Jianxinenjoyer Ай бұрын
i think manual car suited more for ww. u can do everything that automatic car (jenshin) can't.
@Andre-0207
@Andre-0207 Ай бұрын
@@AnbuNinjaMask not an excuse. Just a remark that your comment reminded me of.
@akanerose
@akanerose Ай бұрын
As someone who loves cars, i can't agree with you lol. Manual is just better and more fun to drive
@Edde0425
@Edde0425 Ай бұрын
I tried playing Genshin again after playing WuWa since launch and it's just unbearable to play now. Feels slow and clunky. WuWa is much better and will only get better with time.
@Rejjis
@Rejjis Ай бұрын
I mean Kurogames have a track record with addressing issues. They do surveys ( in pgr it's bi monthly ) so you can voice your concerns there. I would trust Kurogames more with my money than Hoyo to be honest. After all, it's just a game to me and I'm enjoying it!
@Khann_2102
@Khann_2102 Ай бұрын
​@@RejjisYep, I can't wait for a Narwhal boss in WuWa (from the leak there will be a Narwhal boss)
@Rejjis
@Rejjis Ай бұрын
@@Khann_2102 call back to the first ever big update :,)
@Khann_2102
@Khann_2102 Ай бұрын
@@Rejjis Hell yeah
@bimzkymauland7704
@bimzkymauland7704 Ай бұрын
True man,i played wuwa for about 6-8 Hours per day,and play genshin only like 22 Minutes for daily 🤣
@PLBiohazard
@PLBiohazard Ай бұрын
After playing and enjoying Genshin starting from 1.1, I eventually quit the game during Inazuma's release. Not only I had a massive burnout from Artifact farming but I grew tired of the core mechanics of the game. 1 year... Even if my most anticipated location was finally here, after 1 year, I was like "I don't care anymore". Meanwhile, after 1 year of Star Rail, I've never loved the game as much as I do now. And I can't wait to get even more!
@neuneru
@neuneru Ай бұрын
I felt that too. Why am I grinding for artifacts? Why am I building for more characters? Because my shitty characters can do the job well enough. For abyss? Man the rewards for abyss is so fricking sad, the ratio between the efforts and the rewards is non linear.
@PLBiohazard
@PLBiohazard Ай бұрын
​@@neuneru Pretty much. Not only was I grinding for god rolls that would never drop, but I already had my A-team. I could take on anything without a sweat so all stakes were non-existent at this point.
@Khann_2102
@Khann_2102 Ай бұрын
I already left Genshin in the Shenhe banner, I can't even remember what version that was
@indartawira
@indartawira 24 күн бұрын
I'll add one, artifact farming in hsr has better drop chances than genshin. I usually beat the weekly boss (both genshin and hsr) and even if hsr has bad drops, but sometimes you can get a decent ones, if you're lucky then you can get all the sub stats you want. Genshin? I don't think I've ever got a single decent artifacts from weekly boss since sumeru release. They said they balanced the main stat drops, but guess what? It's way worse and way more often got useless both main and sub stats.
@TheWaifuConnoisseur
@TheWaifuConnoisseur Ай бұрын
To be honest, I think Hoyo knows that Genshin could be better, but they also know that no matter what they do they’ll still get a lot of money. I think this is why they don’t try beyond the minimum amount of effort to make characters, events, story, etc. They would much rather use that extra manpower that could make Genshin better to make Honkai Impact or Honkai Star Rail better.
@lqfr8813
@lqfr8813 Ай бұрын
i bet they use resources for new game ZZZ whatever it is
@XenoWars
@XenoWars Ай бұрын
they arent using extra manpower for anything. its different dev teams. they just simply do not care
@johnribon2207
@johnribon2207 Ай бұрын
@@XenoWarsBased devs tbh. Does whatever the fuck they want and make billions while haters throw tantrums on the internet.
@inesgmirnir788
@inesgmirnir788 Ай бұрын
Not to mention that their ambassador like Tenha and Atsu always buttlicking them every time Genshit did a mistake Genshit listen to their own ambassador instead of general players
@Khann_2102
@Khann_2102 Ай бұрын
It's because of the director of Genshin His name is Cai or something
@hgmore7106
@hgmore7106 Ай бұрын
I got burnt out of genshin because my only wish was to get my wanderer's weapon and i got scammed by the weapon banner... 😂😔 i fell in the trap i should have never spent a cent on that banner... and well now I'm happily playing wuwa☺️👍
@sandwich4916
@sandwich4916 20 күн бұрын
For 3 years I only wanted to have Mona as a 5 star. Got everyone else except her on the standard banner and c1 minimum.... I stopped playing it when HSR came out but I still want Mona even though I will never go back to Genshin again... It just hits so hard every time I think about the money I spent for Mona (and some weapons)....
@zentwo_
@zentwo_ Ай бұрын
Beidou C4 description is wrong since launch and still not fixed for my knowledge, btw. And there is no Paimon, that game already superior.
@TXnovicegamer
@TXnovicegamer Ай бұрын
whats wrong with it?
@zentwo_
@zentwo_ Ай бұрын
@@TXnovicegamer "Upon being attacked, Beidou's Normal Attacks gain an additional instance of 20% Electro DMG for 10s." Both, her normal and charged attacks, trigger effect. It's 20% of attack as electro damage.
@Khann_2102
@Khann_2102 Ай бұрын
​@@zentwo_Why did no one report it to Hoyo? Oh they don't care
@zentwo_
@zentwo_ Ай бұрын
@@Khann_2102 I reported it myself several times over first two years.
@Khann_2102
@Khann_2102 Ай бұрын
@@zentwo_ 😢😢
@supachaitengtakul5183
@supachaitengtakul5183 Ай бұрын
If WuWa nail the launch of 1.1... all hell gonna break loose.
@effishcent317
@effishcent317 Ай бұрын
I must resist Jinshi at all.cost cuz Changli the 1 in NEED.
@why7654
@why7654 Ай бұрын
The war will become more crazy if that happens
@SkullShooterGaming466
@SkullShooterGaming466 Ай бұрын
@@effishcent317I am saveing all the items to pull both and level them both instantly
@thebrigade7684
@thebrigade7684 Ай бұрын
Well uh seeing some leaks and I ain't gonna spoil but 1.1 is pretty crazy
@why7654
@why7654 Ай бұрын
@@thebrigade7684 those character animations are fucking crazy
@Izanatte
@Izanatte Ай бұрын
i just cant play genshin after trying out wuwa's fighting mechanics no more...
@skyMcWeeds
@skyMcWeeds Ай бұрын
even HSR players are shitting on Genshin. Gen devs will not change they will ignore what the community truly wants. Its StockHolm Syndrome. When Nikke, Blue Archive, WuWa and the plethora of other gacha games treat their fanbase with respect and reward them for their loyalty you know GENSHIN truly COULD NEVER. Genshin devs continue to poop on their fanbases mouths while HSR devs continue to shower their players with abundant rewards. It truly is a night and day difference from those two games.
@alicesck01
@alicesck01 Ай бұрын
You described so well. And people defending Hoyo it's wild
@xtiyan2250
@xtiyan2250 Ай бұрын
Oh boy genshin stans incoming. They will think of reasons to invalidate your comment because they can't accept it.
@darkcastle85
@darkcastle85 Ай бұрын
Sunk cost fallacy thats why genshin stans exist and defend such a company its honestly sad 😂
@Tempest27
@Tempest27 Ай бұрын
Omg RUN THEY SEE FRESH MEAT
@redn9215
@redn9215 Ай бұрын
I remember seeing so many people back then defending the game barely giving any freebies like they're getting paid by the company or something. "oh yeah, 3d models cost so much more to make... So the greed is justifiable", bitch, PGR has more than twice the amount of animations per character, no 50/50 shenanigans, and they've given out free S rank selectors in the past as well as the occasional farmable S rank. BA gives out free 100 pulls every anniversary, then there's AL where ship storage is more of a problem than the gacha itself. Man, the Genshin playerbase is the saddest community out there.
@iloverice6784
@iloverice6784 Ай бұрын
Kinda regret using money for genshin. If I could just slap myself to stop back then and wait for wuwa
@MiekuahProductions
@MiekuahProductions Ай бұрын
F2P and whaler niggas: i told u bruh this kind of game is actually enjoyable if you going F2P or going whale/dolphin, no-inbetween. F2Ps will make coop has shorter matchmaking and whalers will fund the game because of their hobby of collecting C6R5 limited stuffs. low spenders only get the bare minimum of convenience from welkin and it's sometimes not enough if you ain't saving enough.
@dews2979
@dews2979 Ай бұрын
same
@Khann_2102
@Khann_2102 Ай бұрын
I'm glad I didn't Now my wallet is for WuWa
@MiekuahProductions
@MiekuahProductions Ай бұрын
@@Khann_2102 i rather spend money to buy indie games on steam or buying weapon skin in CS2 instead of paying for characters in genshin lol. frankly, i'd buy hoyoverse game if they managed to develop paid anime game
@UltimateGenosyko
@UltimateGenosyko Ай бұрын
Same, I spent a lot 2020-21 on that game, I feel stupid af
@Akiro367
@Akiro367 Ай бұрын
It's like what I am seeing from old players you have a game that came out during covid and got to comfortable with no competitors. Like you said in the video they don't listen they refuse to fix bugs that have been in the game since day one but they were quick to fix the infinite water walking glitch that made exploration fun. I can go on and on but I am not going make this long
@wetnoodlex
@wetnoodlex 27 күн бұрын
What bugs, exactly? I've yet to run into one. Meanwhile, WuWa still unplayable for a lot of players. The theory that Genshin was successful due to Covid and no comp is debunked. HSR released in an established turn-based market with tons of competitors and it still competes with Genshin in terms of numbers, even overtaking it some patches.
@fiamma_23
@fiamma_23 Ай бұрын
Switch to Wuthering Waves now, force Genshin to improve, comeback later to taste the benefit. It's easier than trying to maintain status quo by doomposting
@slahser
@slahser Ай бұрын
The results you want benefit greatly from doom posting.
@ardee9337
@ardee9337 Ай бұрын
Ironically that's a 50/50 there is a chance they might improve but there is also a chance they just wont. The reason is simple Hoyo has HSR and soon ZZZ and even if Genshin starts to fail, they'd still have 2 other massive games under their belt to milk money from. That's why if players really want Genshin to be better, then pray to the archons ZZZ flops so hard(based on Hoyo standards) that they just re-invest back into Genshin.
@meowk123
@meowk123 Ай бұрын
How can you expect that genshin will still improve that game is already in its 4th year and players begging for improvement from day 1 and the game is still stagnant
@fiamma_23
@fiamma_23 Ай бұрын
@@ardee9337 If they improve, you win. If they don't, you prevent more investment losses. What's the benefit of staying and praying for Hoyo's other project to fail? You just leaving things to fate.
@glovs4188
@glovs4188 Ай бұрын
​@@ardee9337if don't improve then it's a loss for them and a win for us. A win win either way.
@errol2903
@errol2903 Ай бұрын
I left genshin ever since theyve butchered dehya, so much hate and anger from the community that got COMPLETELY ignored. Made me realize that hoyo does not give a single **** about us
@adiamca
@adiamca Ай бұрын
the last thing they edit was zhongli stat and rosaria balloon. the rest is just skin for certain character for showing too much skin lmao...what a joke
@OneRandomGuy3
@OneRandomGuy3 Ай бұрын
It's not the Hoyo's problem. It's the director of genshin. He was butchering Honkai impact too but then left for directing only genshin. Honkai impact then got the director of Honkai Star Rail and the rewards became way more generous
@oh-noe
@oh-noe 28 күн бұрын
genshin community has been mostly hate and anger LOOONG before dehya lmao. Genshin community is more toxic than rust
@AlMeZero
@AlMeZero 27 күн бұрын
@@oh-noe With how much feedback, requests and completely avoidable controversies there were prior to Dehya, I'm not surprised. 1.0 player here that's still active on the game though am enjoying the hell out of WuWa especially gameplay and satisfaction.
@marco_c14142
@marco_c14142 16 күн бұрын
Dude I realized that they don't give a shit about the players when Shenhe and Eula didn't have a rerun for so fucking long (like a whole year for Shenhe?). Then on some patch the leakers said the next banner would be Eula so I just skipped wathever the hell the banner was then, only for the next patch Mihoyo just put another fucking character instead of Eula just because they didn't like the leakers... that was it for me
@HGhaleon
@HGhaleon Ай бұрын
Really glad that I quit Genshin a long time ago. I got fed up after Version 2.4 and had enough of the Mihoyo BS. Nothing was going to change and the game got boring. It's frustrating seeing Genshin being the number 1 gacha game for years and Mihoyo just resting on their laurels as the mindless sheeple continue to give their money to them without question. On top of that, these people white knight for them defending the game and their practices and wanting all other gachas to fail that tries to oppose it. Seriously, stop. Genshin isn't god nor is the best thing in the world. What a hill people choose to die on and support. Baffling.
@jave7318
@jave7318 Ай бұрын
Not even Natlan is gonna pull me back to Genshin.
@Democracyphobia
@Democracyphobia Ай бұрын
it looks like smth from nintendo 64 era lol . playing as a cartoonish baby dinosaur lol .
@iScreamKun
@iScreamKun Ай бұрын
And most likely they can do that pokemon thingy on that region only 😂
@darkcastle85
@darkcastle85 Ай бұрын
Anyone just feel that Natlan made genshin look like a kids game 😂
@princessochka3690
@princessochka3690 Ай бұрын
I mean, Nathlan is just another huge area filled with 5 primogem chests. I honestly never understood new region hype, because GI exploration design is bad. There is no proper motivation to loot chests, Genshin is pretty much a trashcollector simulator.
@deeptobhattacharyya3249
@deeptobhattacharyya3249 Ай бұрын
I was truly expecting some seriousness from Natlan and it went back to mario shit
@Zerviscos
@Zerviscos 23 күн бұрын
Genshin Players: That quest marker is so far away with too many obstacles...I'll just teleport to it. Wuwa Players: That quest is on the whole other side of the map? Time to ride my flaming motorcycle, use my flower girl's vine sliding, endlessly sprint and try to climb this 90 degree vertical mountain to get there.
@nimphali
@nimphali 5 күн бұрын
And killed some TDs along the way to get echos for future build
@kirankumar-gs2nf
@kirankumar-gs2nf Ай бұрын
Day 1 genshin player here after more than 3 years the only thing i played genshin this long is fear of missing out only to realize there is nothing to missout at this point they wont add anything new its just the same exploration same abyss every 15 days its just not worth playing for me
@NomineName
@NomineName Ай бұрын
the main reason that i read a title like this and am drawn to click it and listen to it, is because it confirms that i was right. as a former genshin player, i had major gripes with the game. just a few months into the launch of genshin i was distraught with the actual lack of playable content; why am i grinding, why are people spending thousands of dollars to pull and build characters that they can't even use, why are people not quitting in droves? now that there finally is a market competitor worth its salt (lets be real, TOF and others never came even close to that kind of quality), hoyo is actively losing money - because i'd say its fairly safe to assume that genshin players that try wuwa dont spend more( utility maximizing theory), and banner income that would've have gone to genshin is now going towards wuwa.
@amari7782
@amari7782 Ай бұрын
It’s funny how any time you see someone come to this realization I can assure you that if you typed this anywhere else people will give you shit. All because they think that a game being casual can’t add any meaningful content to play your characters. Such a simple concept that’s so foreign to a delusional community that their perfectly fine throwing out millions every year just because they’re casual and don’t have time for it or for some reason don’t want to play it
@10tailedbijuu
@10tailedbijuu Ай бұрын
@@amari7782 so what is wrong with being casual?
@mrkenjamin1705
@mrkenjamin1705 Ай бұрын
I played ToF for more than a year while playing genshin and I admit, ToF was a breath of fresh air but because of it's issues in launch it dropped it's reputation. Not only that playing as a solo gamer like how you are with Gacha games will not cut out for you. I played and stayed with a guild and as a F2P I managed to do well be part of the top members of the guild but it wasn't long I got trampled down the ranks because how much of a paywall ToF was as well. An update or two my damage which was meant to be high became average and as a F2P catching up is absolutely difficult Tl;dr: Game had potential for burnt out genshin players but later became a paywall in order to survive the game
@amari7782
@amari7782 Ай бұрын
@@10tailedbijuu when it gets to a point that anyone wanting to ask for more just gets told “ welp this is the wrong game go tell you something else” just because you point out there’s nothing to do
@Axterix13
@Axterix13 Ай бұрын
@@10tailedbijuu There's nothing wrong with being casual, just like there's nothing wrong with being hardcore. What is wrong is toxic players. When hardcore players tell a casual to get good, to just build X because X is meta, and, on the flip side, when casual players say everything should be easy, there should be no end game, because casual. While games do generally have a certain demographic (a Souls-like game is not going to be the most casual friendly), there are still often a lot of things that can be done to have broader appeal. For example, a common hardcore/casual friendly approach to content is to have a reward track where hardcore players can progress further in the content to earn more points in a single run, while casuals (or newer accounts or whatever) can't make it to the end, but can instead play the easier parts more times. Everyone gets access to the rewards. But players will often turn on each other, rather than supporting each other.
@blackabalah
@blackabalah Ай бұрын
I've been playing both, and sincerely.... I remembered that I already beaten Genshin (day 1 player), I finished it, I begun to skip spending resin because I already have everything on Genshin Playing Wuwa it's making me remember what's the feeling of building something, doing something, the cool things I always wanted And how.... The echoes are easier to get better stats, and yet I can't say I will beat Wuwa soon, finish it So yeah, uninstalling Genshin it's a very high possibility for me, I need that space
@XenoWars
@XenoWars Ай бұрын
It feels nice being done with story and still needing to rank up and progress while buikding your characters
@abhiss6705
@abhiss6705 Ай бұрын
Soon, the same pattern will repeat with Wuthering Waves. After that, Azur Promilia will be released, followed by Arknights Enfield. The cycle is endless: new games bring fresh excitement, but as soon as the appeal fades, everyone moves on to the next big thing.
@blackabalah
@blackabalah Ай бұрын
@@abhiss6705 and that's pretty good, knowing more worlds, overcoming our attachment for things we already finished, knowing other models for games, changing our perspective and practice our comprehension Playing more games it's in fact a good thing
@abhiss6705
@abhiss6705 Ай бұрын
@@blackabalah yes , but sadly with these open world gacha games / live service models ..the payoff is just not worth it. The payoff also takes an insanely long time to come into fruition. The inbetween is just mind numbingly average FOMO driven bait to hook players and keep them playing.
@blackabalah
@blackabalah Ай бұрын
@@abhiss6705 payoff... What's that? Could you define/elaborate?
@VictoriousWatchman
@VictoriousWatchman 17 күн бұрын
Kuro Games for life, bro!!! I got one of the most powerful players in Genshin impact, but I couldn’t upgrade her because the materials required to upgrade her were in the last part of the game. I want an S rank character that I can upgrade from the beginning of the game if I get her! Not only that but the dark aesthetics of Kuro games totally overwhelmed the happy go lucky feel of Hoyoverse.
@UniqueWeirdo
@UniqueWeirdo Ай бұрын
I open genshin impact again after playing WUWA oh god i automatically close it after 3 minutes the gameplay is so slow and no skip button. Plus after many years of supporting and investing really hard to say i dont love the game anymore 😢
@The9thMonth
@The9thMonth 5 күн бұрын
Sell your account while you still can. I'm sure someone will be interested in it, and you might get some of your money back if you did pay for stuff.
@cabangonlorenz7419
@cabangonlorenz7419 Ай бұрын
I only played genshin for a total of 1 week. And I can already see issues with the movements, though I was a new player and there was a plethora of content waiting for me, but what made me quit was the horrendous combat... I'm the type of gamer that lights up and ignite whenever there's combat in games, giving me this thrill, this missing piece inside of me. When I played genshin it's basically me spamming basic attack, click E, press any number keys 1-4 to switch. Then rinse and repeat. it quickly became REPETITIVE for me. Meanwhile in WuWa, the game gives me satisfying parries and perfect dodges with the ability to juggle combo certain mobs. It's honestly so refreshing and fills my soul, giving me this sense of enlightenment whenever I kill a boss without taking a single hit. Man, I even had to lock in most of the time in Tower of Adversity, in comparison to watching my friend play Abyss tower something in genshin for him to only spam the most basic shit with big numbers popping up on the screen. Overall WuWa is the perfect game for me. Good job kuro games 🙏
@bluuangel004
@bluuangel004 Ай бұрын
Former Genshin dolphin and current WuWa player here. While I also quit Genshin years ago, I disagree that Genshin's combat is trash. The elemental reaction thing is actually pretty good, the bad thing is that there really isn't any hard endgame content aside from the Spiral Abyss to use/abuse it on.
@cabangonlorenz7419
@cabangonlorenz7419 Ай бұрын
@@bluuangel004 Oh crap, I forgot to mention those, cause my friend first played WuWa he said that he got too used to the elements thingy. Though, the mechanic is unique, it doesn't really affect the core combat, which is only basic attack the E thing and Ultimate. It does give dynamic teams where characters become in sync with each other through elemental reactions. This is also one of the main reasons I got through and played for a week . In the end I got bored of the constant rotation.
@luckyshikikan6985
@luckyshikikan6985 Ай бұрын
The most exciting and terrifying for me when challenging dangerous TDs and red ones... trying to survive lol.
@Khann_2102
@Khann_2102 Ай бұрын
@@luckyshikikan6985 Those three monkeys and three spiky rocks got me bro 😭😭😭
@wetnoodlex
@wetnoodlex 27 күн бұрын
Tell me you don't know how to play Genshin without telling me. I'll agree with Bluuangel here. The only downside is no end game content to abuse your knowledge of reactions. There's tons of nuance to it and it's actually still super unique in video games, and not just gacha games. That being said, Genshin was never meant to be a hardcore action combat game. It's literally sold as casual. Calling the combat horrible when it was only ever meant to be serviceable is kind of disingenuous. The game is a narrative driven game, and it does that spectacularly well. The scenery is second to none in gacha games. The exploration leaves a lot to be desired, especially compared to other gachas like WuWa, but if I'm being real with you. WuWa is mid when it comes to both combat and movement. There are tons of non-gacha games I'd rather play for that type of gameplay. Genshin may not have the best movement or combat, but I play it for the story and WuWa story doesn't even come close. It's so bad players want a skip button.
@aren_gee
@aren_gee Ай бұрын
I made a video about this several years ago. Few weeks later after I posted the video, I quit the game because there were so many issues the game had and the devs are so set in their ways, they think they know better than the players do. Few years later, I've been seeing videos of people quitting Genshin for Wuwa, and since it got me interested, I tried it out. Now, I'm not gonna say that WuWa is the perfect competitor for it, but it does have potential. Like enourmous potential to outshine Genshin in the long run if the game improves several patches later. Afterall, the game is not fully optimized to the major market the devs would like to sell this game for, which is mobile. Then I went back and watched the "I quit Genshin for WuWa" videos and to the surprise of absolutely no one, specially me, the issues Genshin had, which I stated in the video I posted, still exist to this day. If Kuro can avoid the same mistakes Hoyo did, then WuWa has bright future.
@inthenameofcontractlendmem983
@inthenameofcontractlendmem983 Ай бұрын
The thing about Genshin is not the whole developer team, it's the producer. He's infamously arrogant and expects everyone to allign with his vision meanwhile his vision is pure business none artistic. His "Stop playing instead of complaining" behavior was infamous among fans since Gun Girl Zs days of Mihoyo. Before him moving to Genshin, Honkai 3rd situation was also as bad as this, terrible rewards and not so prominent QoL updates. Not to mention why Genshin MCs were very weak in gameplay. Even Kiana who is now universally loved among Hoyoverse game players, was so terrible during his era of handling HI3rd.
@UltimateGenosyko
@UltimateGenosyko Ай бұрын
Let’s hope they never move him to HSR. HSR is the main bread winner of Hoyo now, so he might move to that game now that people are getting over Genshin 😬
@inthenameofcontractlendmem983
@inthenameofcontractlendmem983 Ай бұрын
@@UltimateGenosyko Nah ZZZ is more in danger in my prediction because it has attracted way wider audiance than GI and HSR did.
@UltimateGenosyko
@UltimateGenosyko Ай бұрын
@@inthenameofcontractlendmem983 you think so? From what I’ve seen most people don’t seem to care about ZZZ. I could be wrong though.
@inthenameofcontractlendmem983
@inthenameofcontractlendmem983 Ай бұрын
@@UltimateGenosyko As far as I've seen, people who're into Genshin and Honkai are probably not, that's including me. But I have seen people who've never interested in those twos are talking about it.
@KingKKazma
@KingKKazma Ай бұрын
KuroGames is like, less than a half of what Hoyo is. Hoyo has LOTS of games and everymonth they get LOTS OF MONEY, but they don't enhance what they have. PGR (first Kuro game) is totally different from when it released, and WuWa will not be different, bc Kuro LOVES what they're doing, they love to create new games and make people have fun (And cry a lot) with it games and stories.
@kydro
@kydro Ай бұрын
WUWA SAVES THE DAY.
@theburning_yandere710
@theburning_yandere710 Ай бұрын
are genshin players really quitting genshin tho? like I can't help but feel like it's not the case cuz I keep seeing people on instagram, reddit, tiktok, twitter and fb and they just keep shitting on Wuwa like they're high on cope... then again... I deleted genshin the moment Wuwa got live... and didn't regret a single thing😂✌️❤️❤️❤️
@GreemLynn
@GreemLynn Ай бұрын
Maybe not necessarily deleting but maybe only just login to do dailies, spend resin and go back to Wuwa which is basically me lol
@Carlos-qg2me
@Carlos-qg2me Ай бұрын
@@theburning_yandere710 not quitting but prolly spending less time there and probably spending more cash in wuwa
@iScreamKun
@iScreamKun Ай бұрын
​@@theburning_yandere710 hoyolab is also filled with wuwa post and guides... And people are expressing their concerns why they prefer wuwa now.
@effishcent317
@effishcent317 Ай бұрын
It gave me happiness back from Elden Ring burnout. I won't be playing the dlc, I'll just watch someone play it now.
@enutrofdude
@enutrofdude Ай бұрын
Genshin in 2 months: "Come back, Traveler! We'll give you 7 free Primogems -- one per day for a whole week, delivered straight to your in-game mailbox!"
@mikahakkinen8345
@mikahakkinen8345 Ай бұрын
I play genshin almost 3 years and i tried WuWa since released.. and when i come back to genshin.. i realised genshin lacks in some things.. especially the combat! The combat mechanics in WuWa are complex yet so addicting..
@jin_raven192
@jin_raven192 Ай бұрын
I pity those gamers who only play thier first gacha and stay for only one gacha. People wouldn't be suprised how other gacha will treat you if they try it out.
@Oclur
@Oclur Ай бұрын
I pity those gamers that play only gachas: they don't know how good videogames can actually be
@legacymse7095
@legacymse7095 Ай бұрын
Most gachas aren't similar to Genshin though. I couldn't care less if some idle game gave me 200 pulls. I don't care about some jpg waifus. I prefer quality over quantity. Wuwa gave us both but... if I could choose between them bribing us with free stuff or getting a proper translation in the game (unplayable in a lot of language), I would choose the later
@Keykey70
@Keykey70 28 күн бұрын
you talk about gacha like it's someone you're in a committed relationship with
@raiden3522
@raiden3522 Ай бұрын
People who say that will be the last 5star selector clearly didn't know Kuro Games.
@user-lv3kx7zj3i
@user-lv3kx7zj3i Ай бұрын
After playing wuwa Genshin feels like I'm playing game in slow-motion. Its feels totally different games. And i still hate mihoyo for they did to dehya.
@toukoenriaze9870
@toukoenriaze9870 Ай бұрын
Genshin doesnt put its money back into the game ... they are too busy burning it on making new games to try to drain more money out of people
@dan9563
@dan9563 Ай бұрын
And then they succes
@sojirou.k
@sojirou.k Ай бұрын
Actually true, they want to dominate every game genre out there, making new games in every genre instead of improving their current games, but that is bound to be disastrous eventually. They'll bleed money because not everyone would want to play these new games, they are pandering too much to a niche group of people for their new games just because they want to be visible as a company to every genre.
@toukoenriaze9870
@toukoenriaze9870 Ай бұрын
@@sojirou.k which is weird ngl cuz hsr is run by the same overarching company ... and it feels like they actually spend their money there ... but every time genshin gets alot of money all you hear about is a new side project
@dan9563
@dan9563 Ай бұрын
@@toukoenriaze9870 don't forget there is zzz coming around. And then their new game animal crossing type of game
@toukoenriaze9870
@toukoenriaze9870 Ай бұрын
@@dan9563 ye oof
@Lucy-og1ex
@Lucy-og1ex Ай бұрын
New abyss killed my feelings to genshin entirely. Now I want to go play wuwa fun events
@letsrank9349
@letsrank9349 Ай бұрын
Something that is not mentioned but is important is the fanbase. If you want to voice your dissatisfaction for the game, be prepared to get attacked my Hoyo's army of manchildren.
@nisemono1625
@nisemono1625 Ай бұрын
Omg, those white knights. I've never seen anyone defend any company like those Genshin simps do.
@Khann_2102
@Khann_2102 Ай бұрын
@@nisemono1625 Fr, it's insane how people like them exist
@NN_productions01
@NN_productions01 Ай бұрын
facts , were is also sick of the way hoyo'ys treating us , giving us a pitiful 3 wishes and making it hard for us to get any chratcer we want , not listening to our complaints , making us feel like we wasted our time on this game , just sick and tired of it all
@TheRoleplayer40k
@TheRoleplayer40k Ай бұрын
People are allowed to enjoy the game
@Kastienburg
@Kastienburg Ай бұрын
​@@TheRoleplayer40k How is this reply relates to this comment at all
@Beingbased100
@Beingbased100 Ай бұрын
Not even snezhnaya can take me away from wuwa. After seeing changli and jinhsi im cooked and soaked. All hail KURO WAIFUS. BLESS ME CHANGLI BLESS ME JINHSI
@laodemasisi
@laodemasisi Ай бұрын
bro😂😂😂
@joehanz9217
@joehanz9217 Ай бұрын
Mintpicker ❎ MOTIVATED ✅
@Khann_2102
@Khann_2102 Ай бұрын
JUE!!! GIVE ME S5 CHANGLI AND MY WALLET IS YOURS
@pauloazuela8488
@pauloazuela8488 Ай бұрын
That Aether pfp made this hilarious and the meme of him juggling every chick he could find in every region
@darkcastle85
@darkcastle85 Ай бұрын
They really cooked with those designs and animations I am so ready to blessed
@Swellowing
@Swellowing Ай бұрын
the pandemic really inflated genshin devs ego lmfao
@mranderson4001
@mranderson4001 24 күн бұрын
I quit; not enough content for the money you pay tbh. They just throw a few quick events & a little area; then expect you to whale for what you want. Elden Ring & DLC is only a flat rate of $100 usd for a much much bigger world, bigger bosses, and you dont need to whale for weapons or power; you just explore and get stronger. No extra money needed on echo xp or tuners. But it's okay if you suck at basic games and need to pay/whale for "modern day cheat codes" to make the game better for you.
@alicesck01
@alicesck01 Ай бұрын
After Wuwa, exploring in Genshin it's a real torture. I was trying so hard wait for get my C6 Ayato but i can't even log in anymore...
@Beingbased100
@Beingbased100 Ай бұрын
I sold my C6 ayaka with her signature R5 mist and sold it. Genshin feels so slow that I couldn't even do dailies. So I sold my account and with that money I'll max my Changli 😋
@Beingbased100
@Beingbased100 Ай бұрын
Doing dailies in genshin feels like a forced job I don't want to do. Such a heavy garbage I threw away. Hating wuwa is my biggest regret ngl
@Prome699
@Prome699 Ай бұрын
@@Beingbased100you were hating on WuWa in the past?
@Tempest27
@Tempest27 Ай бұрын
​@@Beingbased100 stopping playing GACHA will make you good bro 👍
@Beingbased100
@Beingbased100 Ай бұрын
@@Prome699 used to. Not anymore. Idaf about genshin now
@jclspice
@jclspice Ай бұрын
Kuro got my complete respect after seeing how they have handled the feedback with the community. Not once did we get to see mihoyo do such a thing for its players, so I'm hitting them where it hurts, by taking my wallet off the table, and putting it on kuro's side from now on. I'm having a blast with WuWa's core gameplay, I want to stick around to see what they can cook in the long term.
@nataliedanken7826
@nataliedanken7826 Ай бұрын
In my opinion it just depends on your point of view. When I go into Genshin and climbe a mountain, I do it for the experience. Because it Is slow indeed. When I need to calm down from a stressful day. The music was, and will be always very beautiful and the scenery is too. The story’s are very nice and I love to see how the main one ends. Wuva is much stronger, faster and is is very fun. But sometimes, I’m just fed up with running up a mountain like a superhero. And being realistic: this running up a house or a mountain isn’t something someone can do …except of Antman or maybe some other Marvel Heroes. But I think both Games have their own beauty and they are different games. I play both and enjoy, depending on my mood. Fast and dynamic, or relaxing and enjoying the beautiful areas and music. This „trend“ that everyone’s puts Genshin down and hates it and fires so much effort in it…it sometimes seems to me like you have to convince yourself, that Wuva is better, and you aren’t allowed to like Genshin anymore. Because the Devs don’t listen… and this and that…🙄 Woa! I, for myself, like Hoyoverse, just want to play and enjoy. No one hast to follow me. You can hate me for this, but be fair and think for yourself. Don’t just follow the crowd. And what if the day comes…and it will… when Kuro Games makes some mistakes and there will be dramas? You all skip playing all games forever ?
@ytisforbackup
@ytisforbackup Ай бұрын
The combat is so satisfying! You summarised it perfectly. Even i couldn't know why i was having so much fun grinding echoes for hours!
@XiasGaming
@XiasGaming Ай бұрын
I just quit Genshin after 4 years , i did it yesterday. My current challenge is Wuwa.
@pant104
@pant104 Ай бұрын
I think when you look back at Genshin's downfall it will have started with the 3 pulls for 3 years. I was out in less than 3 weeks after that embarrassment. Genshin had killed itself long before Wuwa came out.
@leho_123
@leho_123 Ай бұрын
Only braindead gambling addicts think pull count is what makes a game good 🤡 wuwa is straight garbage in every aspect aside from gameplay. Dogshit story, voiceacting, music, world design, quality, and worst of all… tencent slave. How pathetic to glaze a tencent slave of all things in kuro
@luckysgi-5karrow378
@luckysgi-5karrow378 Ай бұрын
Pre-Inazuma the overworld was pretty good! Who remembers the quest for collecting 8 items and slotting them into one mysterious ruins of Liyue? And the 3 sections of a circular plate for the forgotten and locked away tunnel around one of the villages? The treasure hoarder quest where the hint to the meeting spot was a dead tree with white wood on the crest of a thin mountain? The inn you shortly reach when getting to Liyue and a decorative pot gave a prompt to search for a similar rock formation in Liyue somewhere for a hidden treasure? You actually had to LOOK in the open world to finish stuff! Nowadays it's just follow a waypoint on a quest, and when all those are done you don't touch e-grass because huddling inside a domain to spend resin for artifacts or ascension items.
@lqfr8813
@lqfr8813 Ай бұрын
in sumeru desert, there is this cliff around statue that is so high and tilted forward to prevent climbing even characters like wanderer and kazuha cannot pass it because stamina limit and tilted terrains, only xianyun can pass it. . this is what frustrating in genshin, they make terrains that is impossible to climb but put some daily quest on top of those terrain like idi0ts. they should try play the game by themself first before release patch. they even just added national team in character test just recently, before they just put random character without any chemistry
@dr.johnleewatson86
@dr.johnleewatson86 Ай бұрын
bro, there is an invisible stairs/bridge to cross it from the other cliff near it
@yume9206
@yume9206 Ай бұрын
i hate not being able to skip the story in genshin, esp when im going through a dialogue from a side quest.
@reed3863
@reed3863 27 күн бұрын
aranara solidified my huge want for a skip button in genshin. before that, not as much.
@miyamotomushashi409
@miyamotomushashi409 Ай бұрын
genshin impact 🚫 greedy impact ✅
@kieragard
@kieragard Ай бұрын
yeah i can't go back anymore, complaining don't even help with genshin because they got people deleting comments.
@AnAverageGenshinPlayer
@AnAverageGenshinPlayer Ай бұрын
Agree 💯 man I started playing Genshin on the last day of 2020, man fell in love with the game within few hours the open world, music, scenery, characters, story, exploration... I still remember the first survey on the genshin, i was like 'oh a survey i/we the community can give feedbacks and give suggestions to make the the game even better and wow such a wonderful developers to ask for feedback from the players, they would definitely implement the suggestions/feedbacks from the players unless why should they even ask for it, right?' Man i did the feedback survey until somewhere in the 2.x and i stopped I understood that they didn't give a 💩 about our feedbacks or complaints There are a lot of quality of life or other updates community had been asking for so long and they dont care Eg- the skip button, resin cap, re-playable event/quests, getting missed event weapons,proper endgame etc Hopefully the wuwa release will do something in our favour And one thing i want to mention seperately is the gadgets in genshin The genshin developers has a phd in 'how to make a gadget worthless' The wuwa has done a very good job here The gadget will automatically switch for the necessary scenario ( the elevator) meanwhile i have to manually switch to the seed box thingy everytime and it doesn't work when in combat Also the fast gliding gadget has ridiculously high downtime Genshin's story, music, scenary, are still top-notch
@Andre-0207
@Andre-0207 Ай бұрын
Many of the things you said are simply outdated opinions. Understandable since you haven't touched the game since 2.0 Example: we have a select wheel for quickly accessing gadgets. It's limited to 4 but i personally don't use more than that. And they also increased resin cap. And new endgame was just added. Maybe before jumping to conclusions, try the game?
@glovs4188
@glovs4188 Ай бұрын
It's not that players were asleep. More like there's just nothing else. I have been so bored on genshin since i finished abyss. That's like almost 4 yrs now.
@zerooskil7161
@zerooskil7161 Ай бұрын
“Wuthering waves just opens up your eyes on travel mechanics” Meanwhile tears of the kingdom: HOLD MY BEER FACTORY. From orbit
@pauloazuela8488
@pauloazuela8488 Ай бұрын
It's obvious to not compare a gacha or a live service game to an offline paid game. It's the best form of gaming , you pay what you want and get exactly what you want without waiting for days, while just waiting for the sequel instead
@wetnoodlex
@wetnoodlex 27 күн бұрын
@@pauloazuela8488 It's not obvious. Gacha games make tons more money than traditional games these days. It's an excuse. Genshin may not have the most fun combat or movement, but that's not the genre it sells as. It's top tier in story, character and world design and competes with traditional AAA games and beats most of them imo. WuWa may have more fun combat according to many, but it definitely fails in comparison to other games in the action combat genre. I enjoy Genshin much more than BotW, but I'd rather play TotK over WuWa.
@Dexterritory212
@Dexterritory212 Ай бұрын
the fact the no skip counts towards the daily npc quests as well just made fontaine dailies hell if it involved speaking to any npc especially the melosuine ones where it can last a good 3-5 minutes of the same dialogue if u dont spam click out of it
@aventurinelix
@aventurinelix 29 күн бұрын
Genshins new characters doesn’t excite me anymore tbh, like when i saw clorinde/sigewinnes gameplay, it doesn’t have the hype in it, but in wuwa, like the upcoming characters, they actually made me feel super excited, the characters all look so fun with their unique and different play styles !! I haven’t felt that excitement for such a long time
@XzMondayNightzX
@XzMondayNightzX Ай бұрын
In genshit, "characters are content." Because there's nothing else and they don't give a shit. They don't even have resin overflow after 4 years. Star Rail does, and WuWa is getting it next patch. Genshit is always shitting itself. Dehya sucks to play, albedos and any geo constructs are just bad. Give WuWa a year of limited and see how those play in comparison. Changli looks insanely smooth and can do aerial combat. Now when emlie comes out, compare her with WuWas 1.1 characters. Also in WuWa because it's combat focused... you can.. use your characters! Genshitters can eat all the shit they want. Star Rail is doing fine and WuWa is going to do just as well. I doubt natlan is going to change anything because I've seen the "pyro archon" of the "War nation" and it looks like a hugbox with pokemon.... and bubble diapers.
@eeeeepy
@eeeeepy Ай бұрын
When I saw a video of cai haoyu, the producer of genshin himself, saying that characters in genshin are content, it really made me think. I understood everything and it sucked. If you don't spend money to get every character well f u, you're not welcomed in our game. Or you can play f2p, but be starved for content all the time.
@XzMondayNightzX
@XzMondayNightzX Ай бұрын
@@eeeeepy Yeah, I've always found that strange myself. The game isn't super hard but the elitism stories of coop I read are exactly the people hoyo farms. (Braindead) What's even crazier is that entire kit overhauls that can change HOW you play your CONTENT are usually locked behind c6, or 2000 dollars roughly if you have bad luck. You want the best experience with flexibility? Cool infusions and options for combos? Fork out for it. If anyone remembers the 1.1 event with the meteors, THAT WAS CONTENT. The golden apple archipelago? Again THAT WAS CONTENT. There was exploration, story and combat. But instead now it's like "Here's a domain with some buffs, same enemies. Here's a "Superpowered" (It does more dmg and has 100x the hp) boss that's been in the game since 1.0 and doesn't move or that same big lizard you've farmed for years..... and of course match the colors minigames and stuff like petting cats. It's pretty egregious, a surface level zelda with temporary events that are very miss that people only do for primos go get more "Content" if they're not going to pay.
@luckysgi-5karrow378
@luckysgi-5karrow378 Ай бұрын
15:15 We can't skip AND we can't rewatch any scenes!!!! Before Genshin I played tons of other console and PC games where it was STANDARD to rewatch scenes and read dialogue. How TF Genshin doesn't have that even after all this time!!! Back at release I tried to find where we could rewatch the scene where Venti returns the lyre to Barbara in-game.... AND NO OPTION AVAILABLE?!?!?
@cjvaans4484
@cjvaans4484 Ай бұрын
I agree. If they refuse to evolve, Genshin will eventually die. There will be more open world action gacha rpg coming, like Arknights Endfield, and Azur Promilia.
@MikasaBasudara681
@MikasaBasudara681 28 күн бұрын
oh wait, I really AGREE from your point you said that genshin have different character, but they have the same mechanic and gameplay.... charge attack spammer, shielder and element enabler, they just feel the same. Unlike wuwa, every character have different mechanic and ways to play them
@KatyaXx0
@KatyaXx0 Ай бұрын
I stopped giving money to Genshin ages ago.. because supporting that game feels like supporting a toxic relationship…..
@solidsudlon69
@solidsudlon69 Ай бұрын
Indeed bruh you got it right😅
@seija8588
@seija8588 Ай бұрын
If you still play that's still 1 more active user for their statistics
@WastedTalent83
@WastedTalent83 Ай бұрын
almost the same feeling XD
@tka3
@tka3 Ай бұрын
I've only bought welkin myself once personally right before wuwa released. I've always been a net negative f2p user on genshin and now I plan to make it stay that way.
@ashkorew5405
@ashkorew5405 12 күн бұрын
@@tka3I played the game religiously from beginning up until Childe. I had saved up enough for at least 2 pities. I got Jean twice and I raged quit. Since then I logged in occasionally. I managed to get both him and Raiden but at that point I couldn’t bother with the game anymore.
@bloodrhain9756
@bloodrhain9756 Ай бұрын
I'm just still playing for Genshin for the archon quests. I'm no longer spending my resin regularly and stopped spending few months ago after their sh*t show of anniversary 😅. I love WuWa so far. Indeed, Genshin could never 😅😅😅
@Andre-0207
@Andre-0207 Ай бұрын
Genshin could never release an unpolished game and bribe players with free stuff hoping they will keep quiet about the problems
@sanjivekumarkhadka832
@sanjivekumarkhadka832 12 күн бұрын
@@Andre-0207 DUDE SHUT UP ALREADY YOU ARE EVERYWHERE. Genshin has a good story, lore, character designs, and worldbuilding. Basically genshin has a better WORLD. It also has slightly better visuals. WuWa is more fun to play with better exploration but bad story. WuWa has better MECHANICS. Genshin is good, depends on what you like about it. WuWa is good, depends on what you like about it.
@sanjivekumarkhadka832
@sanjivekumarkhadka832 12 күн бұрын
@@Andre-0207 Also, if you don't agree with this, why did you even click on this video? Being a white knight is not fun for us or for you. If you want to stick to Genshin, just ignore the WuWa videos. Please, being so angry at EVERYONE and calling it a bribe when someone enjoys one piece of media over another takes a big toll on your mental health.
@Faqur
@Faqur Ай бұрын
Haha yeah the TCG was fun to play for a bit, but it's been long overdue for an event like that. Love the discussions!!
@sillysmy
@sillysmy Ай бұрын
I think all the points made in this video, and the previous one, are just deeply relatable for so many players. I think a vast number of us have been waiting for Wuthering Waves. Not necessarily WuWa specifically, but for a game like it, to come along and show Hoyo just how much room for improvement there always have been with Genshin. I actually had almost no interest at all in WuWa until it launched and I decided to try its frequently praised combat system. It was just such a breath of fresh air and almost a feeling of comfort. Because it felt like someone read my mind, understood all of my frustrations with Genshin and how Hoyo have treated their game and its players, and decided to do something about it. It almost feels like one of those justice served moments you see every once in a while on social media. It was vindication of our collective frustration. Even if Hoyo improves Genshin and does amazing things with their other games, I'm personally never going back to a Hoyo game ever again. Because I know that when given the opportunity, and if their hand wasn't forced, Hoyo will choose to not do a thing to change how poorly they treat their players. Hoyo doesn't respect the players. Hoyo doesn't respect their time. Hoyo doesn't respect their voice. Even if Hoyo improves on everything tremendously, it will only be because it affects their profits. Of course game companies need to make money and everything is business, but you can put out products for profit while not making the people you're trying to make the money from feel like shit. Hoyo doesn't even have the absolutely minimal amount of business tact to disguise the fact that they think nothing of their players. I'm never going back.
@jase4066
@jase4066 Ай бұрын
Ye I jump back into genshin after Wuwa it just now feels terrible to be honest so I kinda just dropped it and just go with Wuwa hopefully they do improve though but for the mean time Wuwa is my main game
@LamNguyen-df7oh
@LamNguyen-df7oh Ай бұрын
Everything you said is true man. So true. I am going to stop spending in Genshin and will start supporting Kuro
@gary1760
@gary1760 Ай бұрын
Now the spiral abyss cycle 1 month becauce they added the theater thing,if u add both reward it bout 200 primos more.is it relly hurt give us 600 more?
@YakivGluck
@YakivGluck 23 күн бұрын
man, this is sooo good! I'm not a fan of ranting videos, I'm not an English speaker mostly, but I've watched this one straight through.
@rangergooseman
@rangergooseman Ай бұрын
What sold me on WuWa was the ability to overcome Gimmick areas via quests.
@why7654
@why7654 Ай бұрын
I hated the sea of fire, but then i realised the gimmick could be removed. So thank god they did that
@LalalalaMhie
@LalalalaMhie Ай бұрын
​​@@why7654YES! And also the Poison spore in Giant Banyan tree? Where your resonator will immediately killed if you stay there long enough.
@XenoWars
@XenoWars Ай бұрын
​​​@@why7654lol i havent done any exploration quests yet. just finished getting everything in the sea of flames today, including the red mist lv 80 Fractsidus goons up top... They were a pain to take down at lv 60. Funny part is i was farming echo xp, but got distracted by shinies there and just decided to clear it out. That said, Jianxin makes exploring it a non-issue lol
@luckyshikikan6985
@luckyshikikan6985 Ай бұрын
​@@XenoWars have you encountered any shinies in the sea of flames?
@XenoWars
@XenoWars Ай бұрын
@@luckyshikikan6985 By shinies i mean treasures/sonances
@Lindy-nw9rd
@Lindy-nw9rd Ай бұрын
very niche but one thing that ive been hating in genshin is how we just have to pick up enemy/chest drops as they roll away from us 🥴 same with attacking the animals for meat
@victorplaton2698
@victorplaton2698 29 күн бұрын
Something that I don't see a lot of people talk about in genshin, regarding the rewards, is how BAD the weapon banner is, like I never pulled on that because it is such a scame, they simply do not give enough resources for a f2p player, the majority of their players, to even hope they can get one without giving up on 2-3 characters, I got both limited weapons in wuwa in the first patch, and in hsr at least I know is a 75/25 and I try, but genshin simply doesn't care
@aoikazuma3781
@aoikazuma3781 Ай бұрын
Imagine being a Traveler without having buff to travel arround, it's like ice coffee without ice
@touchedme1637
@touchedme1637 Ай бұрын
Climbing up a mountain feels like 50/50.
@br0ken586
@br0ken586 Ай бұрын
I decided to stop playing genshin on it's first days and I literally don't regret it not even think about it
@luclon-vu7og
@luclon-vu7og Ай бұрын
Launch on and off genshin player here (ive quit like from right before inazuma to mid inazuma and right before sumeru to mid fontaine like 4.4 ish). Great vid but wanna comment a few things. Ive played both games and think that both have their own upsides and downsides. For one, the world in genshin is way way bigger than wuwa, and there are a lot more smaller things you can do. This is a result of their 3 year advantage but I still thought it was important to point out. I enjoy combat in both games equally, wuwa def requires more skill but it is extremely annoying when the morning aix just makes u able to do nothing for like 10 seconds (I know its meant to be hard but its definitely still annoying). Theres also many control issues on mobile, and while I know it probably isnt meant to be a mobile game it is still annoying. Movement is faster for wuwa but feels extremely clunky, and there are a bunch of small issues I have (turtle long start up animation, ive gotten softlocked out of finishing a puzzle because i messed something up and couldnt reset the puzzle state by teleporting away, non limiting of adding echo exp material, the echo farming just feels like a chore, theres a lot more but these are my biggest gripes) and while i know genshin HAD many of these issues many were fixed or changed (albeit extremely slowly). I definitely agree that wuwa has the better dev team by far and a more generous gacha system (i love the standard weapon banner its so great and allows me to get the limited 5 stars AND have great weapons for them). Not trying to defend genshin here at all, wuwa has just a better gacha system in every single way. My point here is not to defend genshin but to say that wuwa has many of its own problems too because it is at its launch state. It is also missing many qol things even though it definitely also added a lot (the running up cliff and skip dialogue especially). Im probably a rare case, but I actually played wuwa for 3 ish weeks then quit and went back to genshin because I got burned out (and wanted to grind for furina, wish me luck pls). I honestly think that while genshins content is limited time wise, there is so much that if you are a casual and slowly complete content it could still be worthwhile. Im sure the wuwa devs will add a lot more in the future but right now I actually enjoy genshin more. But I understand that many long time genshin players are frustrated with the devs not doing the most basic things for the game and want a more generous dev team in another great game. Thanks for reading this and have a great day. Never expected to write this essay but I wanted to point these things out from the other perspective. Wuwa definitely has a bright future but right now I prefer genshin with its 3 extra years of experience.
@seija8588
@seija8588 Ай бұрын
"there is so much that if you are a casual and slowly complete content it could still be worthwhile" nah lol I blasted through story from mondstadt to sumeru right before dehya release (because I did find the main story quite interesting at least up until that point). after that I realized while there's quite a bit to do for account maintenance and 100% regions, the process is just so fucking painful because of some of the things said in the video and some others. miserable traversal, day gated domains (quite literally one of the most idiotic things ever thought of), very little resin, events barely if not even giving enough resources as rewards (not even primos/pulls), combat becoming so monotonous with slow AI that just sits there to be hit with reactions, the reaction system itself forcing you to build multiple characters to just make it not as painful (even if you can solo, the gameplay itself becomes even less than barebones - basic af attack animations that aren't even satisfying or cool to look at; unlike WuWa where you CAN still make solo character builds feel good to play, and the vastly different mechanics of each character makes almost everybody very interesting to play and figure out), most major quests barely having anything to do with the main conflict itself and you need dainsleif that comes around once in a blue moon, standard banner that is still very limited, old-basically abandoned characters still being inaccessible even from said standard banner, and so on and so forth
@Hoitem
@Hoitem Ай бұрын
I play both games for different reasons. I love the exploration and story in Genshin, and i enjoy the impactful combat of Wuwa. I personally want both games to be successful and keep improving as i love their genre of games(also looking forward to Endfield, Project Mugen, Azur Promilia and other similar games). The more competition within a game genre the better for us players.
@AvengeButterscotch
@AvengeButterscotch Ай бұрын
Sorry i play genshin only but i respect Wuwa. Maybe i will switch later. For now i hope everyone enjoys whatever game you like!
@ROMVS
@ROMVS Ай бұрын
I play both, but very little to do in genshin after resin
@AvengeButterscotch
@AvengeButterscotch Ай бұрын
@@ROMVS nice! I feel intimidated to start another game like genshin maybe i should idk. Just don’t like everyone saying one is way better than the other
@ostargz
@ostargz Ай бұрын
@@AvengeButterscotch Try WuWa, then you will understand how we feel 😎
@MagisterialVoyager
@MagisterialVoyager Ай бұрын
@@AvengeButterscotch It’s pretty different and unique but familiar enough. Try it on your own time and pace.
@user-wi3xp2wz7l
@user-wi3xp2wz7l Ай бұрын
For WuWa to crash Genshin completely, Mihoyo just need to do another "3 wishes for 3 years" move.
@peterpines4992
@peterpines4992 Ай бұрын
Yeah “crash” lol they couldn’t even beat wanderer and baizhu banner lol good luck after natlan comes out. Nobody will even remember wuwa ever existed
@roxnexgen5264
@roxnexgen5264 Ай бұрын
​@@peterpines4992a gi die hard glazer 🤡
@Hasieur
@Hasieur Ай бұрын
​@peterpines4992 before natlan came out lets see how many players still stick with the game 😂😂😂
@tka3
@tka3 Ай бұрын
​@@peterpines4992it's almost like a game that came out for only 8 days before the end of the month will almost certainly make less than another game's revenue for an entire month.
@zangetsu_neo
@zangetsu_neo Ай бұрын
The only thing I hate about WuWa is they change the 90% of the story just because the CN Genshin players didn’t like that dark environment and Chixia pointing the gun at the MC. The CBT1 story was more interesting.
@MrRysmos
@MrRysmos Ай бұрын
Theres some points that would like to add (idk if anyone mentioned on ur previous videos): -> Condensed resin should not be capped at 5 or at least make like HSR that u have reserved resine (makes me feel tired to be forced to spend my resin when i tried to lvlup my characters talents and the domain isn't open yet) -> Why 7 layers of rng on the artifacts, at this point they should allow us to customize our own artifact or having a locking system to increase the % to get that specific artifact (I already spent 1 year to get 1 specific circlet from a domain) -> The possibility to share artifacts between characters (i know that they would loose money but at this point, there's so many characters to build that a normal player would feel tired to build them all ) -> Y some features in co-op requires to go single player like activating a statue? That is a thing that they should fixed -> Co-op Abyss. They complained how abyss can make players anxious. So they could use implement co-op abyss or at least borrow friends characters to help them. I already tried so many times to adress these issues to them in the past but i dont see them improving that and i just gave up. I hope with wuva, genshin can open their eyes to the player feedback and improve the game.
@shnaide1
@shnaide1 Ай бұрын
Glad that more people are playing WuWa now. There should be more people so that Hoyoverse would finally make a move. lol
@Yewrenegade
@Yewrenegade Ай бұрын
3:50 this. this always felt odd to me ever since I heard that in genshin to my knowledge only buffed or fixed at least 2 characters. Zhongli and Deyha (because on release people say she sucks and her kit is mid at best). That made me think "Its a gacha game, surely they can buff old characters because I know we be getting more units in the coming years and I know some people don't use them anymore and move on" and I kinda got used to Epic Seven buff update every like 8 weeks I think because I know a lot of units need touchups, seeing genshins old 2020 first batch 1.0 units is kinda sad they dont get much love. Overall great video and I know I dont play genshin due to my potato phone and laptop, I still respected genshin at the start because it made a blueprint for other gacha games to be engaging. I feel your pain peeps and hope genshin kinda fix or listen to your requests. I'm now a casual WuWa player and hey, I welcome competition for you guys, just don't be idiots please
@1wk407
@1wk407 Ай бұрын
wait, did they ever actually fix dehya? last i heard everyone was still begging them to fix her but i stopped paying attention so i might have missed something lol
@Yewrenegade
@Yewrenegade Ай бұрын
@@1wk407 I think during her launch people wanted her to be buffed, I think they did but kinda small, correct me if Im wrong
@XenoWars
@XenoWars Ай бұрын
What they did was nerf her to the ground before she released and just threw her in standard instead of fixing her. Tighnari is in standard cause first 5 star dendro. Dehya is in standard cause she's bad
@Yewrenegade
@Yewrenegade Ай бұрын
@@XenoWars I think it was more of showing her kit and it was underwhelming, when she got released using her was awful, at least that's what I remember.
@jeffcarrier9808
@jeffcarrier9808 Ай бұрын
Been playing WuWa the past few weeks and enjoying it. I got bored of Genshin after only a couple months and barely touched it since launch window. Last time I played I started the 3rd major area (cluster of little islands). I never imagined going back, but watching your gameplay makes me actually WANT to jump back into Genshin... at least on my Playstation. I'll focus on dailies in WuWa on my phone.
@DancerVeiled
@DancerVeiled 12 күн бұрын
Given their ability to shake up the combat system would kind of... require going back and reassessing the entire game's combat mechanics from back to front, I'm not sure it's going to happen. That said, I was looking forward to parry being a mechanic unique to Traveller (Physical), so that the character would shoot up from "the worst in the game" to "potentially usable on actual teams", but that never happened.
@HoangTran-zn4ko
@HoangTran-zn4ko Ай бұрын
i've played genshin ever since it's been released it's just how the game is, i enjoyed it when it started n i still enjoy it. of course i'm not gonna just compliment it obviously has it's problems and wuwa definitely has a lot of things better than genshin and that is also obvious, of course there will be a day a game better quality than genshin appears it's been like 4 years or something. i played wuwa and it's sick, encore is cool, but that doesn't mean i'm quitting genshin it's not because i fill pity or that i hv spent way too much time on it to just delete it, i want to stay because it's special to me, for the others if they want to quit then it's understandable
@yaemiko9969
@yaemiko9969 Ай бұрын
Same thing will happen to wuwa, after few years players will also quit.
@rboygamer6668
@rboygamer6668 Ай бұрын
Let's see about that.
@justinekyle28
@justinekyle28 Ай бұрын
i hope both game improve along the way for the benefit of each player based
@yuukashima3902
@yuukashima3902 15 күн бұрын
compared to HSR, H3rd, the amount of time required to grind just to upgrade characters is way too much. Talent materials have their own days, that needs to be changed. Autoplay should be enabled just like star rail, where we just get the materials at the cost of energy. Also, upgrading costs are so high that wuthering waves seemed like a better version. Rewards are better and at a affordible prices to the point i was surprised. Buying convene items from shop is way better. I actually managed to do almost 7 to 8 pulls in a day, not to mention the chances of getting a five star is way better then genshin. Ultimately, the players major concern is that genshin requires too much grinding and that consumes time like there is no tomorrow. They need to improve on this.
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