Best Budget Espresso Grinder Showdown // OPUS vs ENCORE ESP Review

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Review of the Fellow Opus and Baratza Encore ESP and comparison
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Timecodes:
0:00 - INTRO
1:14 - OPUS REVIEW
8:34 - ENCORE ESP REVIEW
13:04 - Standart
14:45 - Taste Test
17:26 - Turin SD40
18:08 - 4th Place
19:53 - Varia VS3
20:53 - ESP
21:15 - Lagom Mini
21:58 - FINAL THOUGHTS

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@redchen3682 Жыл бұрын

I appreciate your recognition to new coffee enthusiasts by not assuming everyone understands all the technical terms about coffee and Espresso. Keep it up.

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Happy to help!

@coffeenerdaaron Жыл бұрын

Very much agreed, Kyle does a great job keeping it understandable and simple yet giving enough detail. I try to do the same in my videos 😊

@tmurph2309 Жыл бұрын

Congrats on the silver button! After much anticipation for this review, you once again knock it out of the park with your product reviews/comparisons. Really appreciate the content! Side note my September Coffee delivery arrives today and I’m so stoked 🤘🏼

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Thanks Taylor! Enjoy!

@gayosso0709 Жыл бұрын

SILVER BUTTON !!! Congrats Kyle love your super in depth reviews and will take them to heart!

@rejected02 Жыл бұрын

Silver Button! Well deserved, congratulations. Thanks for all that you do. It has made my journey into coffee/espresso way easier. And thanks for this video.

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Honestly, thank you! Impossible without you as an audience

@bernym3663 Жыл бұрын

congrat on the silver button!! love the content and appreciate the reviews

@mercurimike3027 6 ай бұрын

Silver Button!!! Congrats!! Thanks for the videos, just got a Gaggia EVO Pro Classic and now looking into a grinder and the opus has the price and look I like.

@JJShankles Жыл бұрын

Congrats on the Silver button! It is such an amazing award, and an amazing achievement

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@coffeenerdaaron Жыл бұрын

Another fantastic video Kyle!!! Great details and I love the comparisons to the other grinders. I’m planning on doing some follow up videos to my Opus review with some comparisons to other grinders. Keep up the awesome work man!!! 🔥

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thank you!

@stavroskonstantinidis277 Жыл бұрын

I really was looking for a review for the Opus thats authentic and not bought by company... for the Varia VS3, too. thanks man!

@LanceHedrick Жыл бұрын

LETS GO!

@nateperry405 Жыл бұрын

Congrats on the plaque. I’ve throughly enjoyed your videos and look forward to what you’re going to do this year!

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

@VoltsSanchez Жыл бұрын

Congratulations on the silver button! Well deserved for a great channel :)

@JimboJason Жыл бұрын

Congratulations on the Silver, and thanks for making excellent coffee related content!

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@kevinsutjr908 Жыл бұрын

Congrats Kyle, good job!! Cant wait to see what else you gonna bring in the future

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@dahveed284 Жыл бұрын

Nice review! I'm a filter drinker that wanted to replace my ancient Bodum grinder/coffee ground spreader. I ordered the Opus last week and it comes tomorrow. Someday I might get back into espresso, so I wanted a grinder that would allow me to do that while still grinding my daily brew.

@SeanGordon-ym4yf Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this great comparison Kyle!

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching 😊

@kuyalicious Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this! Really informed a decision I'm making!

@Tristan_the_ultimate Жыл бұрын

Appreciate the effort, sir Kyle, for making really detailed and informative reviews, especially for budget grinders. Will you also be making a Turin SK40 review soon?

@marcusannegarn8497 Жыл бұрын

This sort of content is so extremely useful. The effort doesn't go unnoticed! It's also just entertaining in its own right. These sorts of comparison videos are gold dust.

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Thank you! A lot… and I mean, a lot of time goes into it. This was finished at 3am. It’s appreciated!

@paryzfilip Жыл бұрын

Amazing silver button Kyle! Well deserved! I'm so happy for you!

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Thanks friend.

@christianbeauvais5777 Жыл бұрын

Congrats! Keep up the great work!

@fagerholmjimmy Жыл бұрын

Silver button!! 🎉 Happy to see this happen, all best to you Kyle!

@DrewCommins Жыл бұрын

Congrats on the silver button! I just got the Opus and yeah, dialing in espresso is tricky. Out of the box, at the finest setting, I was getting a 15 sec. shot but going a couple of ticks finer in the inner dial made it much better. As far as noise, it's much louder than an Ode so I can just imagine the cacophony a Baratza would make. It would probably wake the house.

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Haha the Baratza is very loud. It’s a very common reality with their products but their results are great.

@NocturneS711 Жыл бұрын

New subscriber here. Congrats on your silver button! I'm so glad I found this video because I'm craving for a new grinder to replace my cheap coffee/spice blender. Everything about the grinders is clear and the comparison is pretty neat. The conclusion is very helpful, which leads me to the Opus. Thank you and you totally deserve the silver button! :)

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! And welcome!

@AlexZapata- Жыл бұрын

Great video as always!

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Thanks again!

@MaxFromGermany Жыл бұрын

Silver Button 🎉🎉🎉 Congratulation!!! Keep up the awesome work 👍👍👍

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Will do!

@Itsmikevardy Жыл бұрын

Congratulations on the silver button! And while I wait for the Cuisinart upstairs, that my wife uses to die a slow butt, hopefully soon death, I’ll stick with my original Encore for now. But now that I’m starting to explore espresso a bit more, it’ll be interesting to see what I go with next. I might just stick with Baratza on this one

@lastfour Жыл бұрын

Congrats on the silver button! I was expecting this video from you, and you clarified that the Baratza is a better option for my needs. The adjustment system on the ESP is just clever! I'm not very good at math so the Opus is a no-no for me (I also don't like the plasticky feel). But both look like good options.

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Glad to help! To be clear, both are plastic. And really the math is only needed for precision on espresso

@benjaminfranklin4760 7 ай бұрын

Barazza*

@michaelboyack5775 Жыл бұрын

Congratulations Kyle!!

@sleepygummy7816 Жыл бұрын

Thanks to your videos, I've gained a lot of useful info about coffee. I also bought Wacaco Picopresso, which I love it. Currently, I use Timemore C2 grinder, but it takes ages for getting espresso powder. So, I'm having an eye for Varia VS3 (to replace my current grinder) due to its design and a wide grinding range. Would you recommend Varia VS3 for home use (up to 5 cups a day)? Or going for Lagom mini? in case, I don't wanna change grinder often.

@SaltySaltySalty. Жыл бұрын

Silver button! Congrats, Kyle! Thrilled to see a video from you today. I'm looking for an electric replacement for Kinu M47 (4+ shots daily)

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Hope you found what you we're looking for!

@spektrograf Жыл бұрын

Silver button! Congratulations, Kyle! 🎉🎊

@VentoRacing1 Жыл бұрын

Hay it's been a while since I watched one of your videos. You have really improved.

@viranjith Жыл бұрын

Congratulations on 100k!

@meatgeorge Жыл бұрын

A mate of mine was actually asking my advise as he is wanting to get into brewing better coffee at home and I led him to this video letting him know he's living the best possible time as far as options go. He's more into filter coffee but wants to go into espresso later on and it seems like the ESP and Opus are tailor made for people that are at that point in their coffee journey. Seems so far people who are further along that have more expensive grinders see this is not for us, but excellent grinders for us to recommend to those starting out their journey towards becoming home baristas. Starting out myself with the original Encore it's easy to recommend, and Fellow having many products including the Ode it's easy to vouch for their quality.

@RobertFHarrison Жыл бұрын

Silver Button! You've done a great job and definitely deserve it...keep it up!

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

@Kaleidoscope2412 Жыл бұрын

Congrats on the silver play button. Had to watch this for your opinion after seeing what Lance had to say about both of these.

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@LouiePrimeau Жыл бұрын

Silver button!!! I’ve just recently got a breville, and am looking into getting a buffet espresso grinder. I have been using my X pro for all my shots and am getting tired of cranking lol. I would be really interested in your thoughts on the Varia vs3s upgraded burr options. Really appreciate the content!

@timmilligan7110 Жыл бұрын

I enjoy most Fellow products. My Ode with SSP burrs has been a great pour over grinder so far. The Opus doesn't strike me as aesthetically pleasing as Fellow's other products (looks big and bulky.) The Baratza looks like a standard kitchen appliance while the Varia looks higher end. Thanks for the review! I have a lot of friends that ask which lower end grinder I'd recommend and that is always a hard one due to compromises that may affect some people more than others.

@wakeawaken430 Жыл бұрын

0:38 I am excited too my friend , i was waiting a comparison between vs3 and Opus, now i am going to press play again 👍👍👍

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

I hope you enjoyed it!

@ropro9817 Жыл бұрын

Congrats on 100k! 🎉🎉🎉

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@sideast 3 ай бұрын

Silver Button ! was looking for a realistic review on the Opus

@georgelien Жыл бұрын

What an exciting year !

@TheBradleyd1146 Жыл бұрын

Hey Kyle, great video as always. If one was making milk based Espresso drinks, would the Turin SD40 still be a good option ?

@dylan-nguyen Жыл бұрын

Congrats Kyle, I got the Normcore hand grinder based on your review a while back I never knew how much better my aeropress could taste Love the hand grinder reviews!

@jkim177 Жыл бұрын

SILVERRR! Favorite review for opus and encore! Not in the market for them but still very interesting to listen. Loving your September Coffee (congrats!), absolutely amazing and my favorite coffee of the year so far.

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Ah that makes me smile! Thanks!

@indeskys9714 Жыл бұрын

Where did you get it?

@sirlimpsalot7767 Жыл бұрын

100k and never slowing down, always a great page to learn and grow for all levels

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it!

@mikeLssd Жыл бұрын

Great review! Congrats on the silver button. Would you recommend the ESP as a an upgrade to those with the built in grinder on the breville barista pro ? Thanks

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Not a massive upgrade. I’d save for a sette 270 for better adjustment or the lagom mini, for example.

@julianb.1944 8 ай бұрын

Heyy man love the content! What’s the best grinder under 300 today? Should I get the encore or the varia or maybe the opus?

@toto408 Жыл бұрын

Great review! Good to compare with what other KZfaqrs have published 😊

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Sure! Thanks for watching

@brettsiegle9163 Жыл бұрын

SILVER BUTTON! Congrats 😊

@martinmanzi1830 Жыл бұрын

Grande Kyle!! Nice comparison and good to see the old reviewed guys competing once again hahaha

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

The old reviewed guys?

@martinmanzi1830 Жыл бұрын

@@KyleRowsell haha with love, the SD and the lagom asking to compete and show what they got too

@imstigma Жыл бұрын

huge congrats on the Silver Button!

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Thanks! And thanks for watching

@jeremyromand 6 ай бұрын

Well that settled it for me. The big piece for me is Baratza has really great service and parts. I have the encore but looking to play with espresso. So the ESP really makes sense to me. Thanks for the Video!!

@lukemorison2355 Жыл бұрын

silver button! love your work Kyle!

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Thanks Luke!

@ToddParker Жыл бұрын

I have the lagom mini, getting Argos lever when Ross ships. Moonshine burr? Very excited to experience this setup! I believe Baratza has changed the game with their threaded burr adjustment mechanic in this new Baratza Encore grinder. I have Baratza Preciso in the office after my lagom mini upgrade for home and the micro/macro adjustment dual ring is now obsolete with magnified frustration.

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Todd! Yes this was the moonshine indeed!

@juanmanuelnunezsoto1911 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video! 👏👏

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@AlexCamerony Жыл бұрын

I tried to guess the espresso cup comparison and it was close, just had the Opus and encore switched. Thought the Opus would have ended up second, maybe it really comes down to those adjustments or it's just the burr diff. Congrats on the silver button, great comparison 👍🏻

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

It was also just one blind test. A different coffee could have had different results.

@notme123123 Жыл бұрын

Congrats on the silver button! This was a great comparison video, thanks. On a related note, I’m still using a Rancilio Rocky, which I’ve had for about a decade. Where does that fit in the current grinder landscape?

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

The Rocky is an interesting one. I think it's a bit outdated for it's price and offerings. I would no longer recommend it given the landscape of options we have today.

@SoImPlayer2 Жыл бұрын

Great review! Will you be revering the timemore sculptor any time soon? Would love to see that head to head with the lagom mini, ode etc

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

yes, very soon

@adrianlu1371 Жыл бұрын

congrats on reaching 100k subs!

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@Pembalap Ай бұрын

Thanks for the review. I bought 3 Baratza Encore many years ago for my office. It is a kind of difficult to clean thoroughly, the curve of the way for coffe to go to the collection box is a kind of S-shape, which is difficult to open and clean. The Opus seems a lot easier. And it is more pleasant to use easy to clean & maintain grinder.

@conormclaughlin5811 Жыл бұрын

Congrats on the Silver Button!

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@What_If_We_Tried 8 ай бұрын

Kyle, thanks so much for this clear, concise, and easy to understand budget grinder review, because I am looking for a new grinder. I brew moka pot for myself, and V60 for my wife, but our Oster / Mr Coffee grinder has horrible static issues, needs to be cleaned often, and stalls from time to time. Was thinking of the Ode Gen 2 - nice form factor - but the new / much higher price is entering Eureka Mignon territory. Love the look, and metal construction of Varia VS3, but it's new, and would have to be direct shipped from China as it's not available where I live. So, because of your review, I plan to buy the Baratza Encore ESP, for now, until we decide whether or not we want an espresso machine. And if we do purchase one, I think the Encore ESP will be our permanent filter, French press, or Chemex grinder. * subscribed *

@jwanger142 Жыл бұрын

“I’d rather not talk about that” 😆 you rock Kyle. Congrats on the silver button.

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Haha. I mean.. I have a lot to say… but thanks for watching 😅

@jwanger142 Жыл бұрын

@@KyleRowsell keep doing you man. I’ve been watching since your robot review, thanks for all the quality coffee content man.

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

@@jwanger142 thank you!

@kanotrt Жыл бұрын

SILVER BUTTON! AWESOME - CONGRATS!

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@adriangonzalezdpt Жыл бұрын

Silver button! Congrats Kyle!

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Thanks! and thanks for watching!

@nachoote260 Жыл бұрын

If I were just starting, I would 100% be getting one of these, probably the Encore.

@peter__p_a_n2563 7 ай бұрын

@Kyle Roswell, very informative video but for me the question would be if any of the two are a noticeable improvement over the grinder on the Barista express?

@LaurenF123 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great comparison! I am currently exclusively using a hand grinder for 2-3 espresso drinks every day. I'm glad there are multiple options in this price point, but I think I'll stick with my J-Max.

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! And nice!

@hisdesciples 8 ай бұрын

If you were to grind Ethiopian light roast what would your settings be for jmax?

@TheDusty0ne Жыл бұрын

Good buying guide! Hope that it will help people in making their decision.

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@nicolasfortin4216 Жыл бұрын

silver button congrats 🎉 and on September also 👍👍👍

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it!

@joefranceschino3131 Жыл бұрын

Great video very informative thank you. I am just looking into getting into grinding my own beans. I generally drink 2 to 3 cups a day and use an Aeropress. This may be sacrilegious but could you make a recommendation on an electric grinder. Can’t use hand grinders because of arthritis. Thanks for you help.

@ramrammer5138 Жыл бұрын

Congrats on silvery button Kyle!!

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@lancemoore3867 Жыл бұрын

Silver button! My man, congratulations 🎉

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Thanks Lance! Appreciate you as always

@BensBeanBrew Жыл бұрын

Congratulations on the silver button, I bet it feels great

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Ha, it’s a milestone but honestly not much changes otherwise.

@davitdayou Жыл бұрын

Hi Kyle. I am enjoying my Miicoffee C38 (same as SPTK-38 G) bought from Amazon 260$, and generally same as Lagom mini, and I think it’s the best choice in this category. I watched your video on it and got inspired… only questions is can this fit moonshine burrs for Lagom mini???

@andrewbourn1513 Жыл бұрын

Hi Kyle! First time watcher and really enjoyed your video. Question: Would the ESP or Opus be a better espresso grinder than the built in grinder on the Breville Barista Express? I am interested in buying a grinder that can do both filter and espresso but wasn't sure if I'd be gaining anything from what I already have. Congrats on the silver button and keep it up!

@CalebJoaquin Жыл бұрын

YAY! Congrats on that silver button my man!

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Thanks!!

@codycantrell2780 Жыл бұрын

Love the content! Would have loved to see something like the J Max against these budget electric grinders. Maybe in the future

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

The JMax is a hand grinder. I think if you are willing to hand grind your mind should already be made up. that is superior value.

@codycantrell2780 Жыл бұрын

@@KyleRowsell I had just purchased a J Max for espresso use when these released, so I was curious how these new budget electric grinders compared to hand grinders at the same price point. If they truly don’t compete, I’ll stick to hand grinding! Thanks!

@glassjaw890 Жыл бұрын

Silver button! Congrats 👏🏻

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@PaulWalker87 Жыл бұрын

Congrats on the silver button!

@angelbeck4713 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for what you do bud.

@logicaljuan Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your work here. I would be very interested in your thought on best dedicated espresso grinder under $1000 please

@sobrangitm Жыл бұрын

one question: Fellow dropped the price of the Ode Gen 1 to $255 and right now you can get it refurbished for just $195. Curious how you would compare the Opus to the Ode Gen 1 (w/ just the Gen 1 burrs, not the Gen2 burrs)? Does the anti-static tech and wider range of grind adjustment (especially for filter coffee) put the Opus over the Ode Gen 1 despite its cheaper build? My use case is primarily V60 pour over and French press though; I don’t plan on getting into espresso, which is all the more reason why I’m not sure if the Opus is the better buy since you can now get the Ode Gen 1 on ReBrew for the same price. I’d really appreciate your help with this!! 🙏🏾☕️

@arogalski Жыл бұрын

I know you did a video on the old Baratza Encore vs the Breville Smart Grinder Pro. How would you compare this new version Baratza Encore ESP to the Breville?

@rlsimmons900 Жыл бұрын

Congrats on silver button! Cool September hat too!

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@rlsimmons900 Жыл бұрын

My September coffee is out for delivery today too!

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

@@rlsimmons900 oh cmon! 👏👏👏

@charlesdepelteau6298 Жыл бұрын

Silver button! Congrats!

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@yannickbougard8706 Жыл бұрын

Silver button! Congratulations. Question for espresso encore ESP vs Jmax? Considering manual grinding a non factor. Pure taste. Which is best?

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Similar. JMax will be easier to dial

@rellify3 Жыл бұрын

I have an 1ZPresso JX-Pro that I use for mostly espresso with the occasional pour over. I like it a lot, but I get tired of hand grinding in the morning lol. Thinking about picking up an electric grinder, but I don't want to buy one that will be a significant downgrade to the cup I currently get. Do you think the quality of the ESP is comparable to the JX-Pro?

@Johnnybananass-_ Жыл бұрын

Breville now owns Baratza. so keen to see how their acquired tech gets shared back to Breville grinders being mass produced at entry prices.,

@kombicoffee Жыл бұрын

Silver button! Great job!

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

@Caffeine.And.Carvings Жыл бұрын

Hey Kyle, if you have a baratze contact, it would be awesome if they would offer an upgrade kit for the baratza encore to upgrade it to the esp. I know you can upgrade the burr, so can't be that hard to upgrade the mechanism to dial in espresso

@balboy14 Жыл бұрын

Silver Button! Congratulations!

@KyleRowsell Жыл бұрын

Yes! Thank you!

@powerserge4579 Жыл бұрын

Hello!! Would you say the Opus would be an upgrade from that of the Breville Smart Grinder Pro Coffee Grinder or would it be better for me to look at another option for an official “upgrade”? Thank you in advance!

@lopezpm Жыл бұрын

@KyleRowsell I have an SK40 on order and been waiting almost a month on it. Thinking about canceling that order and just getting an ESP. What are your thoughts on that?