KYS PRO BAKER VS ANKARSRUM VS KENWOOD VS WILFA PROBAKER
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I denne videoen sammenligner vi KYS Pro Baker mini med Ankarsrum AKM, Kenwood Chef XL og Wilfa Probaker.
I denne testen elter vi 2 deiger.
1. 1KG mel og 60% hydrasjon.
2. 2KG mel og 70% hydrasjon.
Veldig enkelt.
KYS Pro Baker mini
kitchenchef.no/products/kys-pro-baker-mini
Vil du ta hjemme-baksten til nye høyder, eller driver du en liten virksomhet innen pizza og bakst?
Lillebroren i KYS Pro Baker familien veier 30 kg og er lett og håndterlig på kjøkkenbenken.
Nye KYS Pro Baker mini er en eltemaskin som rommer 7 L i bakebollen av rustfritt stål. En lekker og nett maskin med mye kraft og trinnløs regulator for det optimale bake-resultatet. Passer perfekt på kjøkkenbenken og er ekstremt stillegående! Perfekt for deiger med høy hydrasjon og mye fett grunnet maskinens mulighet til å justere hastigheten fra lav fart til høy fart trinnløst.
Leveres med beskyttelsesgitter som automatisk stenger ned maskinen ved løft slik at du alltid er trygg.
Ankarsrum Assistent Original
www.ankarsrum.com/no/product/assistent-original-black-diamond-bd/
Assistent Original produseres og monteres for hånd i Sverige, helt siden 1940. Hver Assistent er testet før den forlater fabrikken. Stikkord for vårt arbeid er kvalitet, funksjonalitet og design.
Kenwood Chef XL
www.kenwoodworld.com/nb-no/alle-produkter/kjokkenmaskiner/chef-major/chef-xl-kvl4110s-0w20011163
Uansett om du bruker K-spaden til å lage smakfulle kjeks, vispen til å lage en deilig, tykk krem eller deigkroken til å elte pizzadeig så vil de medfølgende verktøyene hjelpe deg med å lage lekre matretter med høy selvtillit.
WILFA Probaker
www.wilfa.com/no/produkter/kjokkenutstyr/kjokkenmaskin/probaker-kjokkenmaskin/
Probaker leverer optimale bakeresultater for den kompromissløse bakeren. Det tok oss 5 års utvikling med det norske bakelandslaget for å finne de beste løsningene.
Med sitt dobbeltvirkende eltesystem, hvor både bollen og kroken roterer samtidig, får du det beste elteresultatet og med lett tilgang til bollen for å tilsette ingredienser.
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@novaguy5073 Жыл бұрын
Also the ankarsrum was not being used correctly. It is a beast with the right rollers fitted. Most people are intimidated by the unique way that it works. You have to read the manual.
@HotVoodooWitch 11 ай бұрын
EXACTLY.
@chineeboy18 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree. The Ankarsrum was not used correctly in this dough test at all. There is a learning curve with the Ank mixer. It's not a "throw all the ingredients in the bowl and mix". This type of equipment needs proper usage for best results .
@carolyncavanaugh7249 2 ай бұрын
Typical male, doesn't read the instructions.
@Jaimen403 Ай бұрын
Is the dirt tie I see the Ankarsrum working with the hook aloe
@khrenaud Жыл бұрын
As people say, a very poor test of the Ankarsrum using the wrong attachment and the wrong technique. It would have managed the 3.4kg dough without problems.
@rot0261 Жыл бұрын
Yes ,but you have to work with him all the way
@khrenaud Жыл бұрын
@@rot0261 you have to wait until the dough is mixed and then position the roller. After that the machine works all by itself. A little more hands-on to start with, but then the machine delivers durability. No need to let the machine cool between batches even when using it at full capacity.
@rot0261 Жыл бұрын
@@khrenaud You stil have to work with the machine al the time. I am i the possession of both the ANk and the wilfa . and i newer going back to the ank. I have uesed big Bjørn and hobart machins as a prof. and I do not like to be standing over the machin ,and not be abel to do something els. (and it is LAUDER the the wilfa by a big margin ) The KYS is better i making a dough , but that is all it does , and kleening is a nightmare
@THerd-um5tl 7 ай бұрын
Agree 100%. I would love to see a true side by side from someone who actually knows how to run the Ankarsrum. This was so poorly done, it appears to be a set-up to promote the KYS machine and intentionally denigrate the Ankarsrum. Video should be taken down.
@baldoldman8083 7 ай бұрын
@@THerd-um5tl Obvious set-up. KYS logo is located on the exhaust flue above the wood fired oven door. I have no dog in this fight as I mix my dough by hand because I like the tactile feel and the kneading process in general.
@staffanscherloff4596 10 ай бұрын
It appears that the tester didn’t read the user’s manual for the Ankarsrum mixer, which is unfortunate because the test results are biased.
@wowsers64 7 ай бұрын
The tester probably can't read that's why. On a different note, I didn't read the manual when I bought mine over 3 years ago. I simply watched a couple of videos here from reputable testers and knew what to do when I first used it.
@TheHeraldOfChange 6 ай бұрын
What a hatchet job! Not only is the wrong hook being used for the type of dough in the Ankarsrum, It was also not technically implemented correctly. Bad show. of the rest, two are aimed at being "pro" style bread dough machines - one trick ponies. Lastly, the way each machine kneads the dough is different, with 3 tearing and beating the dough, and the Ankarsrum, (with finger roller) kneading in a more "hand-like" manner, and the newer machines are not meant to be used for dough at the higher speeds. I so wanted to like this video, but it was clear from the outset that it is a shill for Kys.
@Mark-xh9ne 4 ай бұрын
Please learn how to use the Ank properly and retest
@guidosinram Жыл бұрын
Sorry leider eine falsche Anwendung bei der Ankarsrum. So kann kein vernünftiger Test ablaufen! Sorry unfortunately a wrong application at the Ankarsrum. No reasonable test can run like this!
@eyalgelberg 10 ай бұрын
Learn how to use the Ankarsrum and you'll talk differently🙂
@Gigisxavier 6 ай бұрын
Right? I just watched a video of an Ankarsrum kneading a wonderful dough before this one. Obviously even the tool he chose is wrong 💁🏻♀️ To say this heavy-duty machine is just to whisk is a joke 🙄
@PastaMakerCordy-qy4uz 4 ай бұрын
Amen
@edstar83 Ай бұрын
Also the Kenwood is a planetary mixer. Homegrade. The two in the middle are Spiral mixers. Planetary mixers are primarily designed for whipping up cream, mixing cookie dough and cake batter ect. Maybe small batch of bread or pizza dough. Spiral mixes are designed for mixing bread and or pizza dough only including high hydration doughs. You won't find a Spiral mixer in a cake factory or cake store. Likewise you won't find a planetary mixer in a Pizzeria or bread bakery. They are two different types of mixers that compliment each other. Not meant to compete against each other. Besides the Maximum amount of dough the Kenwood can handle is 2kg of total dough. Not 3.6kg. The KYS Pro Baker is Chinese knock off of an Italian commercial grade mixer. The *Famga IM-8.* 8 for 8 kg dough capacity. The Kenwood is a good planetary mixer more powerful than the Kitchenaid planetary mixer, but both need to be used properly if you don't want to break them.
@PastaMakerCordy-qy4uz 4 ай бұрын
I never use the dough hook. The dough roller works just fine. The dough hook was added the the assistant was available in the U.S.
@vickosis 5 ай бұрын
No link for the KYS mixer provided, why? Oh wait, I can't find it anywhere; just one website and it's sold out. What's the point?
@Ylem561 11 ай бұрын
So with the Ankarsrum, you need to use the dough roller, and with that much dough, position it close to the center of the mixer and let it go for like 4 mins, after that you can position your dough roller closer to the side and let it go for as long as you want.
@chocolatecoca 3 ай бұрын
Too much work
@dbdarrough Жыл бұрын
I would be interested in watching your videos if you considered doing English closed captions (not trying to push for it but it might open up your audience). As for the Ankarsrum, you appear to be using the wrong attachment and every other video I have seen online seems to have no problems with the types of dough you are making. It sounds like user error, not an issue with the Ankarsrum
@njuffe Жыл бұрын
I have a Ankarsrum, made pizza dough yesterday, 70% hydration. No problems, never had. It's a very good machine.
@patrikandersson3975 Жыл бұрын
70% hydro is fine, for lower hydration doughs 65% and less the roller is a better choice as David tried to explain.
@cachef1 10 ай бұрын
Yes you did not use the Ankarsrum properly at all. You didn’t know how to use it thus it was hardly a valid comparison. The KYS machine looks much to large to fit under normal kitchen space. With the guard it is definitely built for a commercial kitchen. The comparisons weren’t exactly valid for those reasons.
@OZ6YD Жыл бұрын
The KYS and the Wilfa is the only two that are similar to real bakery machines. The spiral hooks are the key for any bakery doughs. Nothing else will do the job properly! But the machine is just not the only thing that are important - what also are very important is how to mix the dough, the temperature of the ingredients and the temperature of the dough and how long is takes to mix the dough and time of mixing is different regarding the types of dough. So it is not only the machine that are important - the rest of it is just as much important. If you want to get closer to bakery bread then you have to buy the right machine to begin with and then learn the rest of it. Best wishes from a baker from Denmark.
@k9m42 9 ай бұрын
Not true…I guess you never worked with a 140 quart Hobart. Same planetary setup as the Kenwood or kitchenaid
@TheFingolito Жыл бұрын
The thing with the ankarsrum is the technique of mixing the dough is different. If you would have gradually added the flour instead of putting it all in at once the results would be different. I saw a demonstrational video by them where they showed how to add in the dry ingredients little by little and not all at once.
@CombatWalnut005 Жыл бұрын
It would have also helped had he used the dough roller I think instead of the hook too. Bummed he quit cause I really wanted to see the results.
@TheFingolito Жыл бұрын
@@CombatWalnut005 true
@sirsillybilly 10 ай бұрын
Hook dough is for higher hydration.
@chineeboy18 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely accurate.
@chocolatecoca 3 ай бұрын
It's a deterrence for me.. if I have to add flour slowly little by little.. why would I go for that..
@PastaMakerCordy-qy4uz 4 ай бұрын
I absolutely love my Ankarsrum. There is a learning curve to it. You were using it incorrectly.
@rudimaas3691 Жыл бұрын
Ich habe die Wilfa seit einigen Wochen und bin begeistert. Ich nutze sie für Brot- und Pizzateige und mit dem Kenwoodadapter für Nudeln, Gemüse raspeln, etc. Die Kombination ist genial! Die möglichen Teigmengen bis 5kg mit der wirklich guten Knetfunktion auch bei kleinen Mengen plus Küchenmaschinenfunktion ist top. Die Optik ist klasse und das Laufgeräusch ist angenehm. Ein absolut zweckmäßiges Schmuckstück, das mit den teuren Teigknetmaschinen mithalten kann, dabei aber kleiner und sogar günstiger ist. Würde ich sofort wieder kaufen!
@lvr47 Жыл бұрын
wieviel Kg Teig bei einem Brot hast du in etwa in der Maschine? Danke
@gangsterper Жыл бұрын
Skulle brukt deigrullen til Ankararsrumen - tror den hadde gjort en bedre jobb da. Wilfa sin ser utrolig bra ut
@ernsthansen5760 10 ай бұрын
Han er klov, skulle først ha brugt dejrullen😅
@cnuttall4193 Жыл бұрын
You are not using the ankarsum correctly. This is not a good comparison.
@user-gr8wi8lv9c Жыл бұрын
Will this smaller KYS be back in stock anytime soon? It seemed the best suited for kneading. Thank you.
@toaletttbord Жыл бұрын
Ville nok gitt Ankarsrum en sjanse til, den er tross alt lagd for å elte deig, men prøv rulla, den er nok bedre. Også er det en litt mer hands on maskin enn de andre men gir et veldig godt resultat hvis brukt korrekt.
@toaletttbord Жыл бұрын
Men må si at Kys Frister med tanke på lydnivået
@georgekonduris8477 4 ай бұрын
It seems the rehydration rate on the Ankarsrum is less, also I tried reaching KYS office in the states and I get a fast busy signal. I was interested but without support, I cannot not buy the KSY.
@xecint1258 Жыл бұрын
Comment to the video itself: Well done. Camera work and sound level as well as the kind of ambient music were perfect.
@heleneaarsther4662 Жыл бұрын
Du har jo brukt feil instrument til ankarsrum
@AndreasFromberg 6 ай бұрын
This test is incredibly misleading and fraudulent. Pardon my language: 1. You do not declare that you are the primary reseller of Kys Mini Pro Baker 2. In a comment you specify that you have read Ankarsrum user manual. Despite this you do not add the flour in increments 3. You base your judgment of Ankarsrum on a 60% hydration. Fair enough that given your test’s premises you do not think it does a good job with this level. But you then exclude it from the 70% hydration test. Ankarsrum is known for being lesser with low hydration doughs so simply excluding it from the 70% test based on the 60% test is consumer fraud. I would expect for you to redo this test as it is being referenced on the internet and people are not aware of the above mentioned points.
@BenAyres100 4 ай бұрын
The Kenwood was the smaller model. If he had used the 7 quart model, it would have had no problem with the 2 kilos of flour.
@DerHeizer 6 ай бұрын
Danke für Deinen super Test. Obwohl die KYS die Beste ist, entscheide ich mich jetzt für die WILFA. Du hast mich vor der Ankersrum und Kenwood bewart. Vielen Dank für die genaue Durchführung des Test. Sehr gut gemacht!
@MIGGim 5 ай бұрын
Ja, ich würde heute auch die Wilfa nehmen, obwohl ich vor knapp über einem Jahr aus Überzeugung die Ankersrum gekauft habe, nachdem ich ein Video von Marcel Paa gesehen habe, wo er eine Heussler, eine Kenwood und die Ankersrum vorstellte. Die Heussler, die natürlich über jeden Zweifel erhaben ist, kam allein aus Kosten-u. Platzgründen für mich nicht in Frage. Die Kenwood knarzte mir zu arg und bewegte sich, meiner Beobachtung und Meinung nach wohlgemerkt, bei großer Menge schwerem Teig doch zu sehr im oberen Teil und da machte die Ankersrum den stabileren Eindruck und dann punktete sie noch durch ihren geringen Platzbedarf. Sie ist Preis/Leistungsmässig wirklich eine Topmaschine, die ich mit über 4 Kilo Teig schon öfters belastete. Was mich allerdings sehr und auch oft nervt, ist die Tatsache, dass man sehr aktiv "mitarbeiten" muss, um eine solche Menge Teig zu verarbeiten - bis ca 1,5 Kilo Mehl und die entsprechende Menge (ca. 1 - 1,3 Liter) Wasser dazu, ist noch ok, alles andere wird oftmals zur "Wutprobe" (Wut, stimmt schon 😅), da rede ich dann schon mit ihr🙈 und drohe ihr, sie auszurangieren/zu verkaufen 😂 Kurz vor Weihnachten 2023 hat dann Marcel Paa die Wilfa vorgestellt und ich dachte mir, "shit, die hätte ich eher genommen, genau so, wie ich immer eine suchte" 🤷♀️ Absolut klasse finde ich da, dass der Teig nicht dem Knethaken hoch wandert, was man durchwegs, bis auf die Heussler und auch hier nun die KYS, bei fast allen Knetmaschinen beobachten kann und mich auch tierisch nerven würde. Kann aber "passieren", dass ich mir irgendwann doch eine Wilfa zulege, wenn ich einen Abnehmer für die Ankersrum finde. Dir wünsche ich viel Spaß und Freude mit der Wilfa 👍 Mit herzlichen Grüßen Micha
@cocoypaye9641 11 ай бұрын
❤ i go for KYS .. so calm and quite... and reliable ❤
@sashineb.2114 Жыл бұрын
This is very interesting. Thank you for providing this. Would it be possible to use the CC (Closed Captioning) option for future videos? It might expand your audience. May I ask what brand of mixer is sitting on the back countertop? It sort of looks like a KitchenAid, but I know the controls are different. Thanks again. 🌻
@kitchenchef2285 Жыл бұрын
CC now in place!
@sashineb.2114 Жыл бұрын
@@kitchenchef2285 Thank you very much!
@ChocolateBoxCottage Жыл бұрын
Very good comparison! Do you consider the Kenwood and Wilfa more professional level vs home kitchen? Have you tried using the roller + scraper combo with the Ankarsrum? I think the reason the Ankarsrum is so appealing to many home cooks/bakers is that it is multi-purpose - good with many tasks besides bread. It makes great mashed potatoes, cookies, meringue, cakes, and other basic tasks. ~Michele
@latui7350 Жыл бұрын
He definitely should have used the roller for this type of dough. The hook is really best for whole wheat and very high hydration doughs. User error.
@antonioneri1123 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried a Sunmix??
@njuffe Жыл бұрын
Tror du måste lära dig att använda Ankarsrum maskinen ... Skulle ha använt rullen istället....
@HotVoodooWitch Жыл бұрын
+1
@richardgledhill6801 9 ай бұрын
I have an Ankarsrum machine and it does work very well but until the dough is formed it does require a bit of interaction, which is OK as the the machine is very safe and you could safely put your hands in it whilst it is running!, it needs to be learned to get the best from it, I do like the very professional KYS machine but it would too big and heavy for most domestic applications. I also have a kitchen Aid planetary mixer, but it has limited capacity, and if overloaded you have to chase it around the kitchen!
@avanti-e8r 14 күн бұрын
no encuentro el lugar donde comprar la amasadora KYS 1200,SI PUEDES INFORMAME POR FAVOR,GRACIAS,HABLO ESPAÑOL.
@GlebelandsMiniatureRailway1 7 ай бұрын
You have condemned the Ankarsrum when you used the wrong attachment and you havent had any practice with it either so you also condemn it when you don't know it!
@novaguy5073 Жыл бұрын
I have used a Kenwood Major for over 30 years for heavy duty home use. However, if I were making dough in volume on a daily basis. A specialty commercial unit be a better choice.
@cretumarius9616 3 ай бұрын
I have a Kenwood chef xl I am very disappointed with it
@edstar83 Ай бұрын
The Kenwood is a planetary mixer. Homegrade. The two in the middle are Spiral mixers. Planetary mixers are primarily designed for whipping up cream, mixing cookie dough and cake batter ect. Maybe small batch of bread or pizza dough. Spiral mixes are designed for mixing bread and or pizza dough only including high hydration doughs. You won't find a Spiral mixer in a cake factory or cake store. Likewise you won't find a planetary mixer in a Pizzeria or bread bakery. They are two different types of mixers that compliment each other. Not meant to compete against each other. Besides the Maximum amount of dough the Kenwood can handle is 2kg of total dough. Not 3.6kg. The KYS Pro Baker is Chinese knock off of an Italian commercial grade mixer. The *Famga IM-8.* 8 for 8 kg dough capacity. The Kenwood is a good planetary mixer more powerful than the Kitchenaid planetary mixer, but both need to be used properly if you don't want to break them.
@tksplace4743 6 ай бұрын
Can I* buy KYS Pro baker with US plug?
@gerry9 Жыл бұрын
mycket intressant jämförelse👍
@Pedler0523 7 ай бұрын
Using the ankarsum incorrectly would fail the test so it isn’t a true comparison
@matthiasg.8029 Жыл бұрын
Hi, is it possible to buy the KYS Pro Baker in Germany?
@kitchenchef2285 Жыл бұрын
Of course! Send a mail to post@kitchenchef.no
@srenrasmussen7311 5 ай бұрын
The spiralhook on the KitchenAid in the back, which one is that? And where did you get it?
@patricialaprell3899 2 ай бұрын
Maybe this one?
@joeandersen9038 Жыл бұрын
Han har ingen anelse om hvordan man betjener en Ankarsrum, prøv rullen næste gang.
@kitchenchef2285 Жыл бұрын
Hei. Takk for tips. Det er mulig vi har brukt maskinen feil, men vi fulgte bruksanvisningen.
@patrikandersson3975 Жыл бұрын
Detta står i bruksanvisningen: ”Bruk Bruk eltekroken til hvetebrødsdeiger og løse brøddeiger med 1-1,5 liter flytende ingredi- enser. Start maskinen på lav hastighet.” Lösa degar står det att kroken är till för, ni kan inte läst så noga?
@MIGGim 5 ай бұрын
Übrigens war die Ankersrum nur mit Rolle bedacht. Der Knetkaken kam nachträglich, auf Wunsch der amerikanischen Kundschaft, die diesen bevorzugen. Ich nutze den auch lieber bei größeren Mengen, hauptsächlich bei feuchten und schweren Roggenteigen.
@kfl611 11 ай бұрын
Do any of these sell using 110-120 volts, which is used in America?
@sashineb.2114 10 ай бұрын
The KYS shows that option on their website. But the page didn't translate properly, so I don't know the cost, shipping details, etc.
@magnusa24 Жыл бұрын
Good test, a Kitchenaid would be a nice addition here as well. The Heavy Duty model for example has about the same price tag as the Wilfa and Ankarsrum at least, so that would be interesting
@latui7350 Жыл бұрын
I have both and honestly the Kitchenaid is not even close in league with these mixers, especially the Ank.
@IngvildPfeffer Жыл бұрын
Here is a test between Ankarsrum and Kitchenaid Pro that I just found: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d7Nyi81kxNnIc3k.html
@latui7350 Жыл бұрын
@@IngvildPfeffer I love you.
@HotVoodooWitch Жыл бұрын
@@latui7350 I was just thinking the same thing.
@victoralexander6214 Жыл бұрын
Stay from the Kitchen Aid Pro-- I spent north of $600 and it the motor start to smoke after the first batch of high gluten dough. Complete waste of money. I am eyeing the Ankarsum --it's warrantied for 7 years.
@avanti-e8r 14 күн бұрын
una de las formas de utilizar la ANKANSRUM es que debes mover manualmente el brazo o amasar con el rodillo y el resultado es excelente,entiendo que el señor que ha hecho el video quiera vender esta marca!!!!
@MIGGim 5 ай бұрын
Als erstes wurde die Ankersrum falsch bedient. Zweitens hätte ich gerne gesehen, wie der Teig aus der Schüssel kommt bzw, wie die Schüsseln zu händeln sind. Ich vermute nämlich, dass die Schüssel der KYS nicht abnehmbar ist, was ein absolutes NoGo wäre und ein fettes Minus - obendrein noch die Größe dieser KYS, das ist enorm viel Platz für einen "Ottonormal-Haushalt". Eigentlich wäre die Wilfa die Nummer Eins, gefolgt von der Ankersrum.
@mojo6524 7 ай бұрын
the KYS has a great curb appeal.... by that, it looks like a beast!
@DynamicJon Жыл бұрын
Any chance you could turn on the close captioning so we could translate it to English sub titles? thank you - Könnten Sie Untertitel aktivieren, damit wir über KZfaq ins Englische übersetzen können?
@bimi03 6 ай бұрын
die kenwood cooking chef xl hat ebenfalls einen spiral knethaken. dann wäre der test vergleichbarer gewesen.
@Gigisxavier 6 ай бұрын
I signed up your channel and, in the middle of the video, I just unfollowed and quit. You should be ashamed for comparing machines without reading the manual. OBVIOUSLY ANKARSRUM IS BEING USED WRONG 😡
@matthiasjanssen-meinig4725 10 ай бұрын
Bei der Ankarsrum musst der Knetharken auch raus, die Rolle dafür rein 👍🏻
@vanderbb01 2 ай бұрын
You just demonstrated how not to use the Ank mixer-instructions not followed. Use the roller for kneading.
@MrAstygmatyk 9 ай бұрын
Fattar inte ideen med den här videon. Det är väl klart från början att spiral degblandare är best på blanda deg, både med hög och låg hydration, men så kan de användast uteslutande för detta ändamål, annars än Ankarsrum samt Kenwood.
@evanangeletos964 5 ай бұрын
Learn to use the ankarsrum correctly before you demonstrate the machine.For small batches you use the roller.Your tests are biased to sell you machines.
@wong6957 Жыл бұрын
Your demonstration and evaluation are very unfair to the Ankarsrum . Your wrong usage should not be mske under value to the machine that can passed down to three generations. l had one myself for eight years, l had no problem to mixed any kind of hydration dough in less then 10 mins by just the dough rolls. Din demonstration och utvärdering är mycket orättvis mot Ankarsrum. Din felaktiga användning bör inte vara undervärderad för maskinen som kan överföras till tre generationer. Jag hade en själv i åtta år, jag hade inga problem att blanda någon form av hydratiseringsdeg på mindre än 10 minuter med bara den degrullarna.
@leonard984 Жыл бұрын
I agree 100% with you, I have an ank and have ZERO problems
@wong6957 Жыл бұрын
@@leonard984 ❤️
@HotVoodooWitch Жыл бұрын
I have to agree. I never have any problem with any hydration using the roller/scraper. One needs, however, to start with liquids, salt, fats, sweetener; then add half the flour, then the yeast, then add flour until the "doughnut" forms. Add a bit more flour and you're good to go.
@gellawella 11 ай бұрын
@@HotVoodooWitch Yes, this! Add the flour last, into everything else. Then it works like a charm even with the set up they used.
@nadaalhaffar1885 Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@fernandaaleixo5042 11 ай бұрын
Para mim a melhor é a KYS.
@rafaelludeke4600 4 ай бұрын
Sehe ich auch wie die meisten: Bei Wilfa überknetet (zu lang) und bei Ankarsrum falsches Werkzeug: da hätte die Rolle rein müssen. Kannst Du das nochmal entsprechend verfilmen? der Haken bei Ankarsrum ist ja ursprünglich für den amerikanischen Markt gewünscht / gemacht worden und funktioniert für weiche und sehr weiche Teige. Nicht für 60% / TA160 also nicht für so harte Teige wie hier. Dafür ist eben die Rolle. Wenn neues Video: bitte nur kneten bis fertig also nicht so schnell / lange. Verrühren und Kneten heißt: die Kleberstruktur aufbauen. Beim überkneten reißt man das fertige Klebergerüst wieder auseinander und der Teig wird wieder klebrig und unstabil. Die KYS ist bestimmt super wenn man den Platz hat. Das Ergebnis sieht toll aus. Danke! freu mich auf realistischeres Video, falls das kommt. Gruß, Raphael
@happydutch56 Жыл бұрын
Nice comparison. But the Kenwood isn’t fit here. I have a Kenwood, great machine for everything but heavy dough. Eggwhite, Cream, cookie dough bether then Kitchenaid. Here in the Netherlands consumer organisations test regulary all kind of kitchen machines. Kitchenaid never, but really never got out as the best machines. But for more heavy dough I would go for the Kys or something like that. For me I go for the Famag Grilletta with a tilted head. It can do the job with just 300 gramms dough, up to five kilo (but that’s to heavy) and with more moist dough the tilted held makes it just easy to remove and clean. Why not the Wilfa because no one could tell me for sure what’s the minimum weight of dough.
@68schalla Жыл бұрын
If you want to make 5 Kg of pizza dough, forget the wilfa. Mine already has problems with 2.8 Kg. It simply stops after a while.
@MIGGim 5 ай бұрын
Die Kitchen Aid ist ein gepuschtes "Modepüppchen". Bei 5 KG Teig wird es allerdings für die meisten Maschinen, die einigermaßen erschwinglich und handlich sind, schon recht problematisch.
@olivero.7521 17 күн бұрын
Where to buy the kys machine?
@chineeboy18 8 ай бұрын
For starters, thats not how an Ankarsrum mixer is used for kneading dough. So the first test had a major flaw. Secondly, no professional baker makes bread or any dough like that. Kneading almost any dough, takes alot of variables into the kneading process. Thre amount of flour you use depends on temperature, climate and dough type. DUMPING A SACK OF FLOUR in any mixer is not how bread or almost any dough is kneaded. 😂😂
@attitre84 10 ай бұрын
Brukte helt feil tilbehør på Ankersum...
@fortunemoon7356 7 ай бұрын
What ! this guy is authorized dealer or seller of Kys Pro Baker, no wonder he tried to screw up Ankarsrum in this test.
@mymuggler Жыл бұрын
Dette er ikke en helt fair sammenligning. A fungerer ikke så godt ved så lav hydrering (60%). I Danmark bager mange med 80% hydrering, og der fungerer A langt bedre
@Freecellspieler Жыл бұрын
Hier sieht man wieder Ankarsrum ist nicht für schwere Teige geeignet , immer wieder wird in den Vorgang eingegriffen . Egal welcher Einsatz ob Haken oder Rolle . Der Teig wird nicht geknetet .
@TitoLukason 27 күн бұрын
Always RTFM! 😉 at best before you publish 🤭
@oncebefore3671 7 ай бұрын
Kys and ankarsrum are so much quieter and they don't seem to suffer the same strain as the other two - i go along with the other comments that suggest you use the proper attachment before reviewing the ankarsrum - this review was a total fail for the ankarsrum - read the manual
@giorgioottoboni9841 2 ай бұрын
25 anni di lavoro come artigiano fornaio ho imparato a usare impastatrici a forcella a spirale con braccia tuffanti planetarie x pasticceria,ankarsrum mi mancava conoscendo le dinamiche della formazione di un impasto non la reputo all'altezza del lavoro che dovrebbe fare!
@robinford4037 5 ай бұрын
Kitchen chef? Not likely. More like Kitchen dish washer, even then he would be Frisbeeing the dinner plates across the kitchen to dry them faster. Wait! Maybe stick wheels on them and turn them into a rally car!
@xecint1258 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for this video - it helps a lot to choose the right machine. Kenwood is attractive, but has the most annoying noise. On the other side, it usually comes with lots of accessories and is therefore more versatile then the others. So if dough mixing is not the primary use case ... KYS has definitely the best, most intensive, mixing result. However, the Wilfa is not far behind, Ankarsrum appearently does not knead - it just stirrs; more or less. On the con side of the KYS is the much less attractive design and the power connection that is located at the worst, space wasting, position. From what I see in this video KYS is just a labeled semi-pro machine from Italy - available without the KYS label in gastro shops for 500-600 €, which appears to be a fair price. The biggest advantage of the WILFA is design - if used in a household kitchen, as well as the capability to rise the mixing head for a most simplified cleaning process. If I have an extra room and have to make plenty of dough, a pro machine like those KYS siblings would be my preferred choise. If placed in a kitchen, the Wilfa climbes up on the scale. With the Kenwood I have serious doubts that I run into quality issues, since the machine apprears to be heavily overloaded - beside of the poor mixing result.
@UtubeEric12345 Жыл бұрын
He is probably using the wrong attachment for the Ankarsrum. I think you are supposed to use the roller for this kind of use, and the roller does knead the dough. As I understand it the roller is the original attachment intended for doughs, the hook that he uses was only added to make the machine more recognizable to the American market. At least from what I learned researching the machine for the last week.
@bethp8436 Жыл бұрын
He’s using the wrong attachment for mixing and kneading the bread. The dough hook is for higher hydration doughs than he is mixing up. The Ankarsrum does a great job kneading when using the right tool for the dough hydration
@jonathantyler6318 Жыл бұрын
Is the KYS available in the USA? And is there an identical clone to the KYS without label?
@kitchenchef2285 Жыл бұрын
We ship to USA. Just contact our customer care :)
@user-ow6rx9ov7y Жыл бұрын
Сравнивать не сравненное, так можно сравнивать знания студентов первого и последнего курса. Кенвуд это бытовой прибор, на одну семью, другие профессионально целевые для небольших предприятий общепита.
@MIGGim 5 ай бұрын
Das ist die Ankersrum und Wilfa auch, liegen auch preislich in etwa auf einer Höhe.
@simonovvi77 10 ай бұрын
The test is not at all correct, they compare professional cars with home ones. The power is completely different. And the focus is on professional cars - they stand in the center and on a special stand, thus playing with the viewer's attention and misleading him. I am disappointed.
@fotbollstok Жыл бұрын
Som ett enda stort norgeskämt. Ni kallar er "kitchenpro" och sen så vet ni inte ens hur ni använder en ankarsrum som har funnits i över 80 år. Är påväg att köpa en nu och utav 10 youtube videor är ni dem enda som inte vet hur man hanterar en sådan maskin. Säger mer om hur professionella ni är än om maskinen. 😂
@shibaryk.9529 6 ай бұрын
Bei der Ankarsrum muss das dritte Werkzeug mit eingespannt werden, damit sie wenigstens etwas den Teig kneten kann, sie aber mit einem Spriralkneter zu vergleichen macht keinen Sinn
@DrMarcArnoldBach Ай бұрын
The Anka needs the role… you do not use it correctly
@spidersniper1150 8 ай бұрын
These dudes are dumb with the Ankarsurum, i ordered one and it'll be here in two weeks and i already know they messed up using it. Great job learning the machine ya dingus.
@wowsers64 7 ай бұрын
You won't regret buying the Ank. Great choice.
@natarajanrajan2607 10 ай бұрын
l want mechine
@matthiasjanssen-meinig4725 3 ай бұрын
Mit Halbwissen über Ankarsrum so zu urteilen… vielleicht liegt es die Werbezahlung oder einfach nur an null Kenntnis,,, oder beides 🤷🏼♂️🤔🤣
@Toth62Eva 7 күн бұрын
Please, try to learn to read a manual. The Ankarsrum works differently - the way you tried to use it was all wrong and your test is awkward !!!
@shaiaxelrud1568 Жыл бұрын
Well, Ankarsrum what a deception! You were more expensive than my dreams... so I got myself a Kitchenaid Artisan and I thank you for being so expensive, you saved me from a nightmare of buying you! This is what I call a true independent comparison, congratulations for the excellent job. SUBSCRIBED, OF COURSE! Warm greetings from Tel Aviv!
@menace46 Жыл бұрын
Not really. He obviously did not know how to use the Ankarsrum. It works really well once you know which attachment to use.
@HotVoodooWitch 11 ай бұрын
You should have researched better. The sad fact of the matter is that you swallowed this bad demonstration whole, undoubtedly prompted by the possibility of saving a few shekels. I can’t tell you how many frum wives own Ankarsrums here in the U.S. because they have large families and also make their own challah weekly. You DESERVE your KitchenAid. 🤣
@latui7350 Жыл бұрын
The Kenwood sounds like it's dying.
@wowsers64 7 ай бұрын
One of the worst comparison video on the internet. How can people be so incompetent is beyond me.
@GlebelandsMiniatureRailway1 7 ай бұрын
Your channel is called kitchen chef but looking at this video it should be kitchen novice! 😑
@gudrunkelleni9519 8 ай бұрын
Man muss schon wissen, wie man eine Ankarsrum richtig benutzt! Das war ja ein Armutszeugnis 🤦♀️
@quaddelyt 5 ай бұрын
Kann denn die Ankarsrum nun vernünftig schweren Teig (TA 150) kneten? Auch hier sagen einige, dass sie es auch nicht kann, wenn man den Teigroller benutzt. Was sagt der Praktiker?
@yvessautter8592 2 ай бұрын
The Ankarsrum is a piece of junk.
@Danielen91 5 ай бұрын
Hahah komedie. Inkompetanse på høyt nivå.
@indyvin 7 ай бұрын
This is a fair test because the Ankarsrum cannot knead any dough below 70 percent hydration. With the hook, the dough just sits there and without prodding it, nothing happens. The roller is worse. When making 60 percent dough, it just rides around with the bowl, and goes thump, thump as it passes the roller. This is not kneading. The Ank was a huge letdown. Mine is going back. The only mixer worth getting is a spiral, like the KYS in this test. Only problem is that most of these machines weigh about 200 pounds. A bit much for the kitchen.
@lisarct1012 6 ай бұрын
There is a definite void in the marketplace just waiting for a 4-5 quart spiral dough mixer for home use.
@k9m42 9 ай бұрын
Ankarsrum is not good for heavy dough. Overrated
@MIGGim 5 ай бұрын
Definiere schwere Teige. Die Ankersrum ist sehr stabil, robust und stark, mit ihr habe ich auch schon über 4 Kilogramm schwere Roggenteige verarbeitet.
@cretumarius9616 3 ай бұрын
Kenwood it’s rubbish
@martineins349 Жыл бұрын
My goodness what a bad performance of the Anka machine. Put it into trash.
@latui7350 Жыл бұрын
He's not using the mixer correctly. The dough hook is used for whole wheat flours and very high hydration doughs. He should have used the dough roller instead.
@HotVoodooWitch Жыл бұрын
@@latui7350 I almost always use whole-grain flours and even my "white" breads have some whole wheat. Have never used the hook and probably never will. This guy doesn't know what he's doing.
@gellawella 11 ай бұрын
You need to add the flour last into the liquid, yeast, what have you and then the Ankarsrum would work just as well with the set up they used in the clip.
@heleneaarsther4662 Жыл бұрын
Ankarsrum er jo såå dårlig.
@gellawella 11 ай бұрын
Nah, they probably hadn’t read any of the recipes, then they’d know you should add the flour last, into everything else.